Miami Dolphins General Thread

[Tannehill17]

I'm liking this OL more with Eichenberg and Davis starting with sumo Solomon Kindley being relegated to the bench. The only reason he started last year was because of his skin color and mythical "upside" Dolphin DWF's aren't too happy to see Jesse Davis as a penciled starter but I've always maintained that he was extremely underrated. Also, good to see Michael Dieter possibly winning the starting C role after being raked over the coals by the caste media due to a subpar rookie season. I'm also excited to see Andrew Van Ginkel (no longer serving a racial apprenticeship) in a starting role with Calvin Munson, Zach Sieler, and Vince Biegel as rotational pieces. Miami's TE group looks solid but unfortunately Hunter Long suffered a non-contact knee injury during camp. Shame, I was really looking forward to seeing him.

And as far as more bad news goes, Patrick Laird may be on the bubble. Let's hope he has a good preseason. I also don't like how they brought in a black quarterback to back up Tua. If Tua gets hurt, it may be a long season for the Dolphins. It especially pisses me of that Mitch Trubisky was available and the Dolphins passed on him for Brisket.

 

[Freethinker]

The Bolsheviks over at NBC Sports Edge (formerly rotoworld / rabbiworld) are adding medical propaganda to their anti-White sports reporting.

MIKE GESICKITE, MIAMI DOLPHINS

Dolphins removed TE Mike Gesicki from the reserve/COVID-19 list.
Gesicki's 10-day stint on the COVID list likely means he's not vaccinated against the virus. Fellow Miami tight end Adam Shaheen said last week he won't be "strong armed" into getting the life-saving vaccine, making Miami's tight end room prone to missed time in 2021. The ultra-athletic Gesicki is set for another season as the team's primary pass-catching tight end. Tua Tagovailoa targeted tight ends on 31.1 percent of his pass attempts in 2020, with 17.2 percent of those targets going to Gesicki.

Life saving for who? 85 year old diabetics? And why do they need to editorialize there (we know why)? These snakes simply want to use their platform to attack, and draw attention to, players (mostly White) who refuse the experimental gene therapy.

 

[Tannehill17]

Good for Adam Shaheen. I always liked him and he actually had a decent season last year when he was actually utilized correctly unlike when he was in Chicago. Florio's propaganda site is the worst. Clay Travis had it correct when he referred to him as a "Corono Bro"

 

[Leonardfan]

Shaheen did indeed play well last year. It's amazing how poorly utilized he was with Rodent Nagy. I fear Cole Kmet will have a similar career trajectory as long as Jimmy Graham keeps stealing snaps and targets from him.

I read that Hunter Long sustained a lower leg injury getting pushed out of bounds. Not sure of the severity.

 

[Tannehill17]

No word as of yet. We just know it was his knee. Fearing the dreaded ACL tear.

 

[Tannehill17]

I've been arguing with DWF's over on Finheaven about the line. They've pretty much been ganging up on me and belittling my takes even though I know what I'm talking about when it comes to offensive linemen. I'm probably the only one there that recognizes that while Jesse Davis isn't a world beater, he's a solid lineman that provides leadership to this young group. Meanwhile I point out that Solomon Kindley is worthless and was one of the lowest rated Guards in the NFL last year and I'm told I'm crazy. Our line has stunk for about 10 years now but these DWF's don't want to hear the reasoning as to why. It's incredibly frustrating.

 

[Bucky]

I've been arguing with DWF's over on Finheaven about the line. They've pretty much been ganging up on me and belittling my takes even though I know what I'm talking about when it comes to offensive linemen. I'm probably the only one there that recognizes that while Jesse Davis isn't a world beater, he's a solid lineman that provides leadership to this young group. Meanwhile I point out that Solomon Kindley is worthless and was one of the lowest rated Guards in the NFL last year and I'm told I'm crazy. Our line has stunk for about 10 years now but these DWF's don't want to hear the reasoning as to why. It's incredibly frustrating.

Hang in there, I think the OL is looking the best it has in years down there! Davis has been a real feel good story. Selling tractor parts, to making the team, and now wrestling ahold of a starting job! Dieter and Eichenberg should work well side by side!

 

[Tannehill17]

Hang in there, I think the OL is looking the best it has in years down there! Davis has been a real feel good story. Selling tractor parts, to making the team, and now wrestling ahold of a starting job! Dieter and Eichenberg should work well side by side!

The DWF assault on Jesse Davis is absurd. The reality is, he is a good pass protector and being that Tua is a left handed QB, it makes sense to have him as a veteran protect his blind side, at least until Eichenberg is ready to slide over to the RT spot which will probably be in 2022. Solomon Kindley is a bust but these DWF's just can't bring themselves to admit it. Why they want to give this guy chance after chance is beyond me. If and when Eichenberg slides over to the RT spot, the Dolphins are going to be looking at getting themselves a new LG either via free agency or the draft.

 

[Extra Point]

I've been arguing with DWF's over on Finheaven about the line. They've pretty much been ganging up on me and belittling my takes even though I know what I'm talking about when it comes to offensive linemen. I'm probably the only one there that recognizes that while Jesse Davis isn't a world beater, he's a solid lineman that provides leadership to this young group. Meanwhile I point out that Solomon Kindley is worthless and was one of the lowest rated Guards in the NFL last year and I'm told I'm crazy. Our line has stunk for about 10 years now but these DWF's don't want to hear the reasoning as to why. It's incredibly frustrating.

You can bolster your argument with his PFF grade, 51.3, which isn't good. I'm not a big believer in PFF but I'll use it if it bolsters a discussion with DWFs.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/solomon-kindley/41471

 

[Tannehill17]

The argument I always make with the DWF's is that we haven't had a good OL since Tony Sparano was our head coach. That offensive line featured guys like Jake Long, Richie Incognito, Jake Grove, Justin Smiley, etc.. It's no coincidence once we went away from guys like that and started bringing in sumo's that our line began to stink. I've sat through enough crappy sumos such as Jonathan Martin, Billy Turner, Dallas Thomas, Jamil Douglas etc to see that THEY have been the main problem with this team. I'm cautiously optimistic that Miami MAY start a 3/5 white OL this season but there are too many sumos waiting in the wings for me to truly feel good about it.

 

[Tannehill17]

Good news as far as Hunter Long's injury. It's not believed to be serious so we'll probably see him at some point this year.

 

[Leonardfan]

Sounds like Laird is the odd man out:

Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said the Dolphins will continue to use a three-player backfield rotation.
Malcom Brown got the start Saturday against Chicago, seeing 16 snaps with Miami's first team offense to Myles Gaskin's seven first-team snaps. Gaskin has four carries for 19 yards; Brown gained eight yards on nine rushes. Salvon Ahmed, who had four starts in 2020 while Gaskin was sidelined, had six rushing attempts for 40 yards, along with 31 yards and a touchdown through the air. "You saw all three backs played, all three of them got carries," Flores aid. "Pick one out and put them in, basically. We like all three guys. They all do good things. And I think we saw that today. And [we'll] just keep working all three guys." Gaskin was never going to dominate backfield snaps for the Dolphins. Now he could be trapped in an unpredictable committee -- a tough spot for a fourth-round pick in 12-team fantasy leagues. Running backs going after Gaskin -- including Mike Davis, Kareem Hunt, Raheem Mostert, and Travis Etienne -- have more secure roles in their respective offenses.

 

[white lightning]

Sounds like Laird is the odd man out:

Dolphins head coach Brian Flores said the Dolphins will continue to use a three-player backfield rotation.
Malcom Brown got the start Saturday against Chicago, seeing 16 snaps with Miami's first team offense to Myles Gaskin's seven first-team snaps. Gaskin has four carries for 19 yards; Brown gained eight yards on nine rushes. Salvon Ahmed, who had four starts in 2020 while Gaskin was sidelined, had six rushing attempts for 40 yards, along with 31 yards and a touchdown through the air. "You saw all three backs played, all three of them got carries," Flores aid. "Pick one out and put them in, basically. We like all three guys. They all do good things. And I think we saw that today. And [we'll] just keep working all three guys." Gaskin was never going to dominate backfield snaps for the Dolphins. Now he could be trapped in an unpredictable committee -- a tough spot for a fourth-round pick in 12-team fantasy leagues. Running backs going after Gaskin -- including Mike Davis, Kareem Hunt, Raheem Mostert, and Travis Etienne -- have more secure roles in their respective offenses.

Of course. This league hates white football players. The nfl hates white cornerbacks and running backs the most. Anti white racism as usual in this criminal league. I hope Laird
can find another team that will see his value.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

The argument I always make with the DWF's is that we haven't had a good OL since Tony Sparano was our head coach. That offensive line featured guys like Jake Long, Richie Incognito, Jake Grove, Justin Smiley, etc.. It's no coincidence once we went away from guys like that and started bringing in sumo's that our line began to stink. I've sat through enough crappy sumos such as Jonathan Martin, Billy Turner, Dallas Thomas, Jamil Douglas etc to see that THEY have been the main problem with this team. I'm cautiously optimistic that Miami MAY start a 3/5 white OL this season but there are too many sumos waiting in the wings for me to truly feel good about it.

I hadn't thought of that but you are correct. I was living in Florida back when Sparano was HC and at least they were contending for the playoffs as a Wildcard team most years despite the Pats being so dominate in their Division. And yes, the OL was a key part. I think agenda is taking the upper hand over which players are best qualified. Sad case seemingly everywhere in the League at every position except maybe Place Kicker.

 

[Tannehill17]

Solomon Kindley was awful yet again at LG vs the Bears. PFF graded him out at 45.7. That could bode well for Liam Eichenberg to start at LG. He was out during the Bears game because of an injured shoulder.

 

[Bucky]

Solomon Kindley was awful yet again at LG vs the Bears. PFF graded him out at 45.7. That could bode well for Liam Eichenberg to start at LG. He was out during the Bears game because of an injured shoulder.

Fins go and trade for a sumo bust in Greg Little! Last year they traded for Isaiah Wilson. Dude is not worth giving up even a 7th rounder for!

https://www.outkick.com/dolphins-make-move-to-try-and-bolster-offensive-line/

 

[Tannehill17]

Fins go and trade for a sumo bust in Greg Little! Last year they traded for Isaiah Wilson. Dude is not worth giving up even a 7th rounder for!

https://www.outkick.com/dolphins-make-move-to-try-and-bolster-offensive-line/

They're clearly throwing sh*t up against the wall to see what sticks at this point. Sumo Austin Jackson is looking like a bust. Bringing in Little is a desperation move. The Dolphins haven't had a good left tackle since Jake Long.

 

[Bucky]

They're clearly throwing sh*t up against the wall to see what sticks at this point. Sumo Austin Jackson is looking like a bust. Bringing in Little is a desperation move. The Dolphins haven't had a good left tackle since Jake Long.

Haha yes definitely a desperation move!

 

[jacque]

Phillip Lindsay signed and kicks Patrick Laird off the depth chart. Funny story I once made a tweet regarding Phillip Lindsey’s value (I said he should not be signed for a large amount), a very tame comment that shouldn’t offend anyone, and his ogre mom/sister/mystery relative freaked out and started harassing me on Twitter haha

 

[Bucky]

Surprised Dolphins canned Flores! Looks like GM Grier had a better relationship with Ross and that leaves Flores as odd man out.

 

[Leonardfan]

Surprised Dolphins canned Flores! Looks like GM Grier had a better relationship with Ross and that leaves Flores as odd man out.

Flores getting fired is somewhat surprising.

 

[Bucky]

Flores getting fired is somewhat surprising.

Hope he ends up in Chicago.

 

[Jerry Reb]

Flores getting fired is somewhat surprising.

Pleasantly surprising.

 

[Freethinker]

It is surprising. Having a .500 record for a black head coach is like having a 1,000 yard season for a RB or WR. Other than an outlier like Mike Tomlin, they simply don’t have much of a track record of success. So the surprise comes from the “all-in on BLM” NFL not treating this mediocrity like it’s some sort of achievement. A .500 record usually buys a black head coach a long leash. For comparison, Hue Jackson nearly had as much time with the Browns and it took 3 wins and 36 losses to get him canned.

I’d say the wildcard in all of this is having a black GM doing the firing. If the GM was White, I almost guarantee Flores would have received an extended stay due to the optics and political climate.

 

[NEP01]

While it's tough for any coach to survive three straight non playoff seasons, I'm still surprised by this, given the Dolphins tanked in Flores' first year in 2019. Though he was probably inevitability doomed by the pick of Tagovailoa over Herbert in 2020.

I don't have any bad feeling towards Flories, he seemed like a reasonably fair coach by caste standards and I don't recall him aggressively embracing any BLM nonsense, and seems to be mature and disciplined. He also did a great job as the DC on the Patriots last Super Bowl team in 2018.