Mass Shooting in Vegas

[Don Wassall]

One thing you never see with these mass casualty events is much in the way of blood, gore and guts. I can't stand viewing such sights, but they would go a long way toward validating the official conspiracy theory that the media quickly comes up with and parrots each time one of these events happens. I know there was a pretty big market at one time for the "Faces of Death" videos, maybe still is, so why is it we've never seen the "faces of death" of the most suspicious events, which to me are Sandy Hook, the Aurora theater shooting, Orlando, the Boston Marathon, and a couple of the events in France. (Yes, I know there are pictures from the Boston bombing, but of just a few people, nowhere near the hundreds that supposedly had limbs blown off.) With 90% of people seemingly having one hand at all times on their smartphones, the lack of explicit official and unofficial videos of the dead and injured always strikes me as curious.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Where we're the Mohamedan terrorists supposed to have been? Something about that sounds like a fallback excuse/cop out.

 

[Heretic]

That one guy on the vid above says that Paddock was undercover FBI and LV was a sting operation on Mohamedan terrorists gone bad. The FBI has been a corrupt outfit for many years. Remember that Paddock was a pilot and the registration on his plane has been linked to intelligence operations in the Obama regime. You don't even need any acoustical expert. You can plainly hear that one machine gun is very very close and drowning out the screams. I've been around guns a lot I know what guns sound like.

They claim 3,000 shots were fired in LV. Show me the 3,000 spent shells in that hotel room. In the photo I saw it looked like only about 40 or 50 on the floor in the part of the floor visible by the dead body.

Well, you and I and other awakened kind don't, but the normies do; and the FBI (easily) validating all of this is the only way they would accept it. But, as you say, the FBI is completely corrupt and obviously an appendage of the deep state just like that of the controlled establishment media. Their unwillingness to do something that is so patently obvious to anyone with functioning ears and a brain only proves their complicity...just like in the Oklahoma City b0mbing and all the way back to the Kennedy assassination.

 

[werewolf]

Well, you and I and other awakened kind don't, but the normies do; and the FBI (easily) validating all of this is the only way they would accept it. But, as you say, the FBI is completely corrupt and obviously an appendage of the deep state just like that of the controlled establishment media. Their unwillingness to do something that is so patently obvious to anyone with functioning ears and a brain only proves their complicity...just like in the Oklahoma City b0mbing and all the way back to the Kennedy assassination.

And don't forget that it was the FBI that went racing out of the Pentagon on 911 to confiscate all the video cams that festooned the place and nearby businesses, cams that showed what really did happen there that day, and they were never seen again.

 

[werewolf]

Where we're the Mohamedan terrorists supposed to have been? Something about that sounds like a fallback excuse/cop out.

Well, if you watched the vid - that was the one on Facebook on the site that calls itself Teamsters For Trump - the guy is saying they killed FBI undercover Paddock and they were the ones shooting people from the hotel room. I don't know. All I know is that they are lying, like always.

Almost all the eye witnesses reported multiple shooters.

 

[werewolf]

One thing you never see with these mass casualty events is much in the way of blood, gore and guts. I can't stand viewing such sights, but they would go a long way toward validating the official conspiracy theory that the media quickly comes up with and parrots each time one of these events happens. I know there was a pretty big market at one time for the "Faces of Death" videos, maybe still is, so why is it we've never seen the "faces of death" of the most suspicious events, which to me are Sandy Hook, the Aurora theater shooting, Orlando, the Boston Marathon, and a couple of the events in France. (Yes, I know there are pictures from the Boston bombing, but of just a few people, nowhere near the hundreds that supposedly had limbs blown off.) With 90% of people seemingly having one hand at all times on their smartphones, the lack of explicit official and unofficial videos of the dead and injured always strikes me as curious.

Yes the news reports about Boston said just that, hundreds of limbs blown off. I watched the available videos and I saw zero evidence of that. Zero. All I saw were people carefully sitting down on the ground to pretend they were killed or wounded - and one guy who supposedly just had his leg blown off, but facially looking fine and normal, getting wheeled along in of all things a wheelchair pushed by a guy in a cowboy hat. Were there any valid coroner reports at Boston, proof of actual deaths? There were zero at Sandy Hook. And that guy in the wheelchair, who made another "miraculous" recovery, appearing at some Obama event a month later, was found to be someone who had lost his leg years before. Like 911 and Sandy Hook, Boston was at the exact time the site of a police or military practice event. Was that also the case in Vegas? I heard something to that effect someplace.

Speaking of coroners, the big giggling (like almost everybody at Sandy Hook was) Sandy hook coroner made a very strange comment >

 

[white is right]

That one guy on the vid above says that Paddock was undercover FBI and LV was a sting operation on Mohamedan terrorists gone bad. The FBI has been a corrupt outfit for many years. Remember that Paddock was a pilot and the registration on his plane has been linked to intelligence operations in the Obama regime. You don't even need any acoustical expert. You can plainly hear that one machine gun is very very close and drowning out the screams. I've been around guns a lot I know what guns sound like.

They claim 3,000 shots were fired in LV. Show me the 3,000 spent shells in that hotel room. In the photo I saw it looked like only about 40 or 50 on the floor in the part of the floor visible by the dead body.

Why wasn't he a Mossad agent? You might as well blame Israel? Out of all the theories in this thread it's as credible as anything I have read so far...

 

[Fighting Pride]

Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police reveal

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html

 

[Heretic]

David Icke's take, but he eventually mostly addresses it at a 10 - 50K foot level of why. One of his friends sent him a pic of older concert-goers going to a Neil Diamond concert in England on October 5th...just a few days ago...through newly-installed security scanners.

 

[werewolf]

First off, if you ever run into an "Age-Restricted..." YouTube video, you can use the following site to view it. Simply copy the restricted YouTube link and paste it into where it says "Search for a video..."

Anyway, here are some more very good vids. A lot of good stuff is coming out now:

Here's one that indicates another shooter at ground level, dressed up as one of the security guards. He gets into a shooting position and then you immediately start hearing the rapid gunfire and can see the muzzle flash. The sounds were localized, just several feet from the actual video footage...NOT several hundred feet coming from the "32nd floor of Mandalay Bay"!!! Other witnesses in other videos being interviewed said there was more than one of these types at the ground level and this confirms what the male and female Hispanics were telling the attendees 45 minutes before the shooting started. "They are all around you. You are all going to die." and were then escorted out by the security staff.

This man who runs the End Times News Report YouTube channel has some very good vids on this incident as well as other topics...some good investigative reporting. In this one, he shows how he is being sabotaged and targeted for either injury or death now. Apparently, he's been critical of "Zionists" and what they have been doing. He also mentions in this vid that a foreign country is offering him vast sums of cash if will just stop referring to them in his reporting...hmmm, I wonder which "foreign" country that could be. He shows part of the request near the end of the vid. (((Mainstream media))) is going after him now as well.

Here's another one of his vids were he shows someone else's footage of what happened at the Bellagio (yes, Bellagio, NOT Mandalay Bay) that night as well. He talks for about six minutes and then shows the video the woman took to document what was happening there because the mainstream media wasn't reporting it and the Sheriff said that "nothing happened" there. Apparently, it was happening at other casinos on the strip as well, but the MSM was quickly and only repeating "lone gunman" and "32nd floor, Mandalay Bay", over and over. This would support the theory that this event will be used to bring in security scanners to all hotels in Vegas, Nevada, and probably the rest of the country as well as in other venues.

This post needs to be bumped.

The first video presents tapes of police reports of multiple shooters in various places, and starting at 1:50 has an actual view of a man at ground level shooting into the crowd! Note the sound of very close up machine gun fire and also another machine gun firing from far away, like from the hotel room.

Video 2 shows how they are now trying to sabotage the cars belonging to an investigator. This is one of their methods. Re Dr Haider in Austria, Michael Hastings, an an unsuccessful attempt on Jeff Rense.

Video 3 is an eyewitness and her video showing that there was also shooting going on at the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

 

[werewolf]

This one too. A group of Crisis Actors who just weren't with the program, standing around ignoring the whole thing, starts at 2:25.

 

[Don Wassall]

Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake
October 9, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: | Print This Article

Paul Craig Roberts

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...n-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Regardless of the specific scenario, something is definitely “rotten in Demark” on this whole deal.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake
October 9, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: | Print This Article

Paul Craig Roberts

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...n-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/

No offense Don, but I have to weigh in on this.

He's a surgeon (supposedly) not a photographic expert. This one of the ways PCR discredits himself. People just can't seem to believe this actually happened at the hands of some self-absorbed psychopath. I'm sick of the tin-foil hat people from all politically stripes, Left and Right.

Here's to hoping that when some of the victims get healed up and feeling robust they go and beat the ever-living sh#t out of people that say it was all fake, staged, and the despicable "nobody died there" (like the absolute morons ala Alex Jones and John B. Wells that say no kids died at Sandyhook) idiocy. I hope the conspiracy theorists get the taste of blood from their own noses and mouths from being punched right in the face for minimizing this mass murder and injurious event. They should go talk to the victims and their families who would gladly give them what they deserve. If any family members need my assistance I'd be glad to dole out any needed help in this regard.

 

[werewolf]

No offense Don, but I have to weigh in on this.

He's a surgeon (supposedly) not a photographic expert. This one of the ways PCR discredits himself. People just can't seem to believe this actually happened at the hands of some self-absorbed psychopath. I'm sick of the tin-foil hat people from all politically stripes, Left and Right.

Here's to hoping that when some of the victims get healed up and feeling robust they go and beat the ever-living sh#t out of people that say it was all fake, staged, and the despicable "nobody died there" (like the absolute morons ala Alex Jones and John B. Wells that say no kids died at Sandyhook) idiocy. I hope the conspiracy theorists get the taste of blood from their own noses and mouths from being punched right in the face for minimizing this mass murder and injurious event. They should go talk to the victims and their families who would gladly give them what they deserve. If any family members need my assistance I'd be glad to dole out any needed help in this regard.

Who better to judge wounds than a retired military general surgeon...a photographic expert!?

NOT a good post, partner. You need to ask questions and not simply accept what they tell you on tv. Address the questions raised here and elsewhere about the factuality of the events that transpired at these events as reported in the controlled media if you can thank you.

 

[werewolf]

Military Surgeon Says Videos of Las Vegas Gunshot Victims Are Fake
October 9, 2017 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: | Print This Article

Paul Craig Roberts

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...n-says-videos-las-vegas-gunshot-victims-fake/

I don’t care for PC Roberts, but very good, and it’s the same thought that’s been occurring to me - yet another traveling dramatized Crisis Actor gun control road show. I haven’t seen any of the alleged LV victims, but I did see them at Sandy Hook, where hardly any of their family members plus the chief coroner could hardly keep from busting out laughing - and I read very similar comments by medical experts about the Boston Marathon alleged victim in the wheelchair, and I saw videos of the others who looked a thousand times more like actors than bomb victims.

Caveat: I don’t what was the real death count in LV besides the man, whoever he was, in the hotel room. I did see one post-shooting vid where someone was walking amongst the carnage and trying to get medical assistance for people and have the lights turned on, and someone else was yelling out, "Everyone on the ground is deceased!" WTF!? What kind of medic wuld just assume that anyone prone is deceased? He showed one poor young girl who did really did look dead, but I don’t know. Any evidence of blood or gore, actual coroner reports, real hospital records? Reportedly the lights were only turned out after the shooting ceased.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Well, by that reasoning, maybe Paddock isn't dead. Maybe the death count is zero.
Hooray!

 

[werewolf]

Well, by that reasoning, maybe Paddock isn't dead. Maybe the death count is zero.
Hooray!

Maybe not. The recent photo we see of Paddock he had a 13 tattooed on his neck. The dead man didn't.

And I'd say hooray too. The image of the dead young girl lying on her back and the stories of the heroic guys who jumped in front of or on top of their wives or girlfriends to protect them and then took a bullet breaks my heart.

 

[werewolf]

FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas is son in law of John Podesta

Well America if you do a Google search of John Podesta's daughter...She is the wife of lead FBI investigator in the Mandalay Bay shooting Aaron Rouse. So now basically the Vegas Mandalay Bay shooting smells a little worse, and now has an all out Hillary Clinton connection. So what we have here is a country concert that was mainly Trump supporters where 59 died having a Clinton campaign connection, due to FBI agent in charge Aaron Rouse being the son in law of John Podesta who is the husband of John Podesta's daughter Megan.
No way you can deny on why there is a major cover up of the Las Vegas massacre at Mandalay Bay and why it being a country music concert was targeted, because the shooting actually now involves the finger prints of the Hillary Clinton campaign. Should we now find it obvious why the Las Vegas shooting investigation is so messed up and going nowhere...Especially since Mandalay Bay has thousands of security cameras? The Las Vegas shooting may be darker than we have thought! Did the Hillary Campaign basically go off in a rage and kill Americans that were attended mainly by Trump supporters?


FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas is son in law of John Podesta - Puppet String news

 

[Heretic]

FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas is son in law of John Podesta

Well America if you do a Google search of John Podesta's daughter...She is the wife of lead FBI investigator in the Mandalay Bay shooting Aaron Rouse. So now basically the Vegas Mandalay Bay shooting smells a little worse, and now has an all out Hillary Clinton connection. So what we have here is a country concert that was mainly Trump supporters where 59 died having a Clinton campaign connection, due to FBI agent in charge Aaron Rouse being the son in law of John Podesta who is the husband of John Podesta's daughter Megan.
No way you can deny on why there is a major cover up of the Las Vegas massacre at Mandalay Bay and why it being a country music concert was targeted, because the shooting actually now involves the finger prints of the Hillary Clinton campaign. Should we now find it obvious why the Las Vegas shooting investigation is so messed up and going nowhere...Especially since Mandalay Bay has thousands of security cameras? The Las Vegas shooting may be darker than we have thought! Did the Hillary Campaign basically go off in a rage and kill Americans that were attended mainly by Trump supporters?


FBI agent Aaron Rouse in Vegas is son in law of John Podesta - Puppet String news

You can see him draped all over the back of the Sheriffs and Deputies in those press conferences and almost everywhere else. What's his exact purpose there?

Good vid from today by Infowars that captures all of the Sheriff Department lies and contradictions in the various press conferences during the days after the event.

Hillary and 0bama still have control of the FBI and Deep State and Hillary tweets immediately after the event wondering how much worse it would've been if the gunman had a silencer. Then the bill is shelved by Paul Ryan who's nothing more than another Deep State Swamp minion. "Nothing to see here, please move along."

 

[werewolf]

You can see him draped all over the back of the Sheriffs and Deputies in those press conferences and almost everywhere else. What's his exact purpose there?

Good vid from today by Infowars that captures all of the Sheriff Department lies and contradictions in the various press conferences during the days after the event.

Hillary and 0bama still have control of the FBI and Deep State and Hillary tweets immediately after the event wondering how much worse it would've been if the gunman had a silencer. Then the bill is shelved by Paul Ryan who's nothing more than another Deep State Swamp minion. "Nothing to see here, please move along."

Officer: "They checked each floor by floor" until they could determine where the shooter was"

Say what!? Like they didn't get 1,000 911 calls from guests and employees in the hotel telling them that someone right down the hall was shooting a machine gun - like they couldn't see the broken out windows and gun flashes like everyone else?

10:05 First shots fired. 10:15 last shots are fired. 11:20 officers blew open door and entered the room. Then one officer says since they are no longer hearing active shots so "we are considering a barricade at that time since we are no longer hearing active shots". It took them an hour and 15 minutes after the shooting started, and an hour and five minutes after it stopped, to go into the room. Why wasn't the door blown open and entry done by the SWAT team with protective equipment ASAP? Then after the shots stopped they "formed a barricade" and still didn't go in. How did they know the shooter or shooters weren't busy reloading or planting bombs? What's with the barricade BS? Contradictory info all over the place. And then we get John Podesta's son in law the head of the FBI investigation team!

 

[BeyondFedUp]

The timeline and the amount of time it took authorities to get to the actual room is the most questionable and troubling to me. My questioning of conspiracy theories never precluded me from seeing the delays and lack of effectiveness in the whole scenario.

Time will tell, hopefully. Unless there are cover-ups to save face, (not necessarily cover-ups to conceal a mass conspiracy of collusion). I'll have to be convinced either way. That's been my position all along, coupled with me being adamant that everyone should respect the dead, the wounded and their grieving families and friends. I think we can all agree on that.

Cheers.

 

[werewolf]

11 hours ago
Las Vegas shooter's home broken into despite intense FBI, police interest

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/1...into-despite-intense-fbi-police-interest.html




I wonder who might possible have done such a thing. Let me just take a wild guess: the burglar's first initial begins with an F! Do you think John Podesta's son in law - the head of the FBI investigations team - might know anything about it?

 

[werewolf]

...being adamant that everyone should respect the dead, the wounded and their grieving families and friends. I think we can all agree on that.

Cheers.

But after every one of these things that's what they tell us - Don't ask no questions because you'll be disrespecting the dead!

 

[werewolf]

How the enemy-owned media, owned by the likes of Harvey Weinstein and his friends and relations, is spinning their censorship of Las Vegas truth videos on Google-owned Youtube:

"YouTube has made changes to its algorithms..."

Algorithms my ass.

YouTube alters search algorithm over fake Las Vegas conspiracy videos | US news | The Guardian