Mass Shooting in Vegas

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Video actually showing the firing of the automatic weapon on a much lower floor than what the MSM is reporting (knowingly lying), along with the FBI. Note the muzzle fire is in sync with the sound of the rifle.

 

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Another, closer angle of the shots coming from the 4th floor. At the end of the vid, the dispatcher advises no more teams into Mandalay bay as there's "possibly another suspect on the fourth floor".

 

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Seems awfully strange that we are 32 hours in and we have no footage (not even a still) if the guy entering Mandalay?

Things I also want to know

Where and how and when did he obtain the firearm and automatic weapons permit. And how much weapons training did he have?

Where does he usually stay in Vegas ( sounds like he goes there a lot)

Apparently he randomly went off to the Middle East for months last year. What’s up with that?

Greater connection to Lockheed and MIC than us being let on?

It’s be great if they could ID. The girl that was shouting you’re all going to die


It would not at all surprise me if the first casualty of the “Mandalay Massacre” was Stephen Paddock. Just seems fishy with how little is known about the guy
 

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"Seems awfully strange that we are 32 hours in and we have no footage (not even a still) if the guy entering Mandalay?"

Like on 911 and Sandy Hook the security cameras always seem to be "out of service" when these things happen...

In fairness, law enforcement might need some time to study them before anything is released to the public.

I have a good friend in Vegas, one who always disbelieves the "official" stories about these type of events, and she verifies that the crowd was indeed being sprayed with bullets, though everything else in regard to the shooter or shooters is yet to be known. As always, we have the near-instant official narrative that never deviates once established, and then over the next few days and weeks we will get the alternative narrative(s).
 

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This is really terrible - 50 + lives lost. I have been sick to my stomach since hearing about it. I am not a conspiracy theory type but with the evidence shown - the video posted of nozzle flashes from a lower floor it seems like their had to be at least more than one shooter. In this day and age with all of the available recording and photo technology on smart phones - anyone can record anything so FBI should have no issue with identifying everyone involved as well as proving that their was more than one shooter. This is no JFK assassination with only grainy TV footage to go by.

Also - they have yet to release the type of weapons involved - all I have seen is that the shooter had several "long rifles" - no mention as the type. My assumption is the media does not want to release the type of guns since they were probably illegal and it goes against the leftist gun control push that is following this event.

As for the suspect - from everything known this guy did not have any familiarity with firearms so how he was able to operate them is beyond me. The even targeted was chosen for a reason - country concert typically equates to white music fans. There had to be some sort of logistical planning involved - obviously scouting the location and the date of the event. If their are ties to ISIS they should all have an electronic path from the suspect to his contacts - either on his phone or home computer - that is computer forensics 101.
 

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NY Post photo:

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That photo of a rifle carefully placed on the floor right by the open door for the press photographer looks totally staged.
 

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I don't think that's an open door but actually an open or blown out wall, since it looks like the door is in the closed position in relation to the door jam. Am I seeing it wrong?
But the pic fits the Leftists' narrative to have that rifle right there in the center.
 

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I am by no means a gun expert but I would have to imagine that a gun expert could probably tell the type of weapon by the sound it is giving off. Could anyone here who is familiar with firearms confirm or deny that?
 

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I am by no means a gun expert but I would have to imagine that a gun expert could probably tell the type of weapon by the sound it is giving off. Could anyone here who is familiar with firearms confirm or deny that?

One sounded like a belt fed M60 (7.62mm).

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Second shooter caught on tape!

https://video-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v...=1e9702bdb38e0d3cfe48bccfc5f3361b&oe=59D3F714[/QUOTE]



Also that was no man running between windows with a rifle, like the prop placed before the door (or blown out wall besides the door) in the NY Post photo, or grabbing new rifles when each one ran out of ammo, it was fully automatic military machine guns, more than one. I know about hand guns but not about military machine guns so I defer to DD on what exactly they might have been.
 

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Quoted from Youtube comments -


"This was a belt fed M240B from the US Military. I'm a master gunner and a weapons instructor. I served in the Army... count the the shot burst... more than one shooter... ask any soldier..."


 
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Another, closer angle of the shots coming from the 4th floor. At the end of the vid, the dispatcher advises no more teams into Mandalay bay as there's "possibly another suspect on the fourth floor".


And if they were only on the 4th floor, they could rapidly exit the building after they were done firing. And then blame it all on the patsy "lone gunman".
 

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And if they were only on the 4th floor, they could rapidly exit the building after they were done firing. And then blame it all on the patsy "lone gunman".


I saw that one, Riggins, and I don't know. Do you think it could possibly be reflections from the gunfire above? I do know though that what happened sounded like two military machine guns shooting, and all those mass casualties weren't done by one man reloading a little scoped rifle (like the one in the staged NY Post picture) from far away on the 32nd floor! Also most of the eyewitnesses seem to be reporting more than one shooter, plus the female who before the shooting was telling people at the concert that were all going to die.
 

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NY Post photo:

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That photo of a rifle carefully placed on the floor right by the open door for the press photographer looks totally staged.
Suites at the Mandalay Bay have double doors.
 

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Heretic - I don't know what we are looking at in your photo. It may have been taken at a different time because it is entirely different that we have been shown up to now.
 
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