I have always been a fan of Reggie Miller and the way he runs the baseline and curls to the three point line to drain three's in clutch situations. I think JJ Redick does it as well if not better. He is so far behind the line sometimes when he shoots, it's incredible. 7-11 on three pointers this afternoon in leading Duke to beat a very good Boston College team.
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That was a very well played game by both teams. If Redick was "tired" or in a slump he isn't any more.
That's what I was thinking too, but I didn't want to brag.
McRoberts and Paulus have arrived.
Shelden Williams was quiet but effective.
JJ was awesome as usual.
The announcing crew was pretty good I thought for a change. Mike Patrick called Redick "the best shooter I've ever seen!" Ditto.
McRoberts' two free throws towards the end were clutch.
BC is a very good team....and arrogant. I think I remember one of the announcers talking about how BC thought they were better than Duke. Gee I wonder why they thought that?
Shelden Williams was quiet but effective.
JJ was awesome as usual.
The announcing crew was pretty good I thought for a change. Mike Patrick called Redick "the best shooter I've ever seen!" Ditto.
McRoberts' two free throws towards the end were clutch.
BC is a very good team....and arrogant. I think I remember one of the announcers talking about how BC thought they were better than Duke. Gee I wonder why they thought that?
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BC is chock full of caste rich players...was nice to see a team like Duke take them out. G-Mac is my fav caste slayer though. UCONN and Georgetown who never seem to have white players on their teams get slayed by G-Mac.
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Here's an article on J.J.'s continued time in the limelight.
Former Duke star still can't avoid the spotlightBy Andy Katz
ESPN.com
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ORLANDO -- J.J. Redick thought he could be a bit more incognito down here in Mickey Mouse territory.
Leave it to ESPN, though, to thrust the Duke senior guard back into the spotlight with a billboard-sized poster above the marquee of the ESPN Club along the Disney Boardwalk.
The players here for the predraft camp, as well as the likely first-round picks in town just for physicals, were quick to give Redick a hard time about it. He's still the face of this college basketball season, regardless of where he falls in the NBA draft on June 28.
Since Redick and Duke lost to LSU in the Sweet 16, he has been subjected to queries all spring about whether or not he can make the transition to the NBA. This despite winning at least a piece of all five National Player of the Year awards and being one of only two college players (along with Gonzaga's Adam Morrison) to be invited to the USA Basketball National Team trials next month in Las Vegas. (High schooler Greg Oden also was invited.)
"Eventually, you get asked the same questions over and over and it gets old," said a very serene and confident Redick during Saturday afternoon's media session with a dozen of the expected top 15 picks in the draft.
"Eventually, you've got to go, 'Look, I can play. Say what you want. I can play,'" Redick said.
Redick has been interviewed more than any other player in the draft and "probably seen more than any other player," he added.
"I said it early on in my career that there always will be a stigma about me, and I understand that," said Redick of being billed as just a jump shooter. "But I've gotten so much better the last two years and I figured out so many different ways to score and figured out how to defend. I think that people that know basketball see that."
Redick understands that some fans don't appreciate the improvement -- and he couldn't resist tweaking some of Duke's rivals' supporters.
"The average fan blogging from North Carolina or Maryland won't give me credit, and I understand that, too," Redick said.
Throughout the week here, a number of teams have said that Redick could land in the top 10. Don't be surprised if Houston selects him at No. 8. He's not a reach for Boston, either, at No. 7. He's already worked out for Houston, Golden State (No. 9), Seattle (No. 10) and Utah (No. 14), and said he has four more workouts scheduled, including one with the Celtics.
The consensus is that Redick will be a "fit pick" -- a player who goes to a team that needs a shooter. Redick said one of the teams he has talked to said they would have taken him with their pick last year. He wouldn't give up the team's name, but said the pick was between 16 and 20. (Could it be Boston? The Celtics picked high schooler Gerald Green at No. 18 in 2005.)
"Had I known that, I still probably would have stayed at Duke," Redick said. "It would have been tempting but I wanted to stay at Duke for four years. My senior year set me up for this draft and prepared me for the NBA."
Redick, Morrison and Washington's Brandon Roy are clear examples of the benefit of staying in school. All three are expected to go higher in this draft because they were first-team All-Americans in their "extra" year of college after passing on the chance to leave after the previous season.
Redick's (and Morrison's) marketability has improved dramatically, too. He is recognizable wherever he goes. Picking Redick as the poster boy here at Disney probably wasn't an accident.
"[Adam and I] were talking about that at breakfast, how we're linked forever, with me playing at Duke and him at Gonzaga and the cult following both programs have," Redick said. "We're always going to have this and hopefully it will help our marketability."
Redick isn't searching for that attention just yet, though. He's been enjoying this lull -- one that ended when he arrived here.
"It's been nice where I've had a couple of months of minimal media requirements," said Redick, who has been using Los Angeles as his base since his agents, Arn Tellem and Bob Myers, are located in Southern California.
That comes after a season where Redick was the No. 1 option on a team that gets every foe's best shot.
"Playing at Duke is extremely demanding," he said. "You have to be great every day. Every game against us is on national TV and everybody guarding me thought they could make a name for themselves. You have to raise your level and bring your 'A' game every night."
That experience has helped prepare Redick for the next step. He is going in expecting to be a starter who does a little bit of everything from the guard spot.
"I don't think of me as a first guy off the bench, because I'm capable of being a starter," Redick said. "I may not be the first option [on offense], but I just want to win and a chance to compete."
Once he's drafted, he'll head to a summer league and then to Las Vegas for USA Basketball. If he makes the national team, he'll be in Asia for much of August before a quick respite and then training camp.
"Don't take this the wrong way, but being 'The Man' prepared me for playing [for USA Basketball], because I'll understand what is going through the minds of Kobe [Bryant] and LeBron [James]," Redick said. "I did it on a much smaller scale then they do it, but I'll understand where they want [the ball]."
If a team like Houston picks him, he's fine letting established stars like Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming get all the attention. Redick's had his time -- for now. He's not, though, going to shy away from questions that deal with the perception of what he can't do on the court. He continues to explain what he feels he can do -- play the game of basketball at an elite level.
He wouldn't be on a larger-than-life poster, even here in fairy tale land, if it weren't true, right?
Andy Katz is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
Former Duke star still can't avoid the spotlightBy Andy Katz
ESPN.com
Archive
ORLANDO -- J.J. Redick thought he could be a bit more incognito down here in Mickey Mouse territory.
Leave it to ESPN, though, to thrust the Duke senior guard back into the spotlight with a billboard-sized poster above the marquee of the ESPN Club along the Disney Boardwalk.
The players here for the predraft camp, as well as the likely first-round picks in town just for physicals, were quick to give Redick a hard time about it. He's still the face of this college basketball season, regardless of where he falls in the NBA draft on June 28.
Since Redick and Duke lost to LSU in the Sweet 16, he has been subjected to queries all spring about whether or not he can make the transition to the NBA. This despite winning at least a piece of all five National Player of the Year awards and being one of only two college players (along with Gonzaga's Adam Morrison) to be invited to the USA Basketball National Team trials next month in Las Vegas. (High schooler Greg Oden also was invited.)
"Eventually, you get asked the same questions over and over and it gets old," said a very serene and confident Redick during Saturday afternoon's media session with a dozen of the expected top 15 picks in the draft.
"Eventually, you've got to go, 'Look, I can play. Say what you want. I can play,'" Redick said.
Redick has been interviewed more than any other player in the draft and "probably seen more than any other player," he added.
"I said it early on in my career that there always will be a stigma about me, and I understand that," said Redick of being billed as just a jump shooter. "But I've gotten so much better the last two years and I figured out so many different ways to score and figured out how to defend. I think that people that know basketball see that."
Redick understands that some fans don't appreciate the improvement -- and he couldn't resist tweaking some of Duke's rivals' supporters.
"The average fan blogging from North Carolina or Maryland won't give me credit, and I understand that, too," Redick said.
Throughout the week here, a number of teams have said that Redick could land in the top 10. Don't be surprised if Houston selects him at No. 8. He's not a reach for Boston, either, at No. 7. He's already worked out for Houston, Golden State (No. 9), Seattle (No. 10) and Utah (No. 14), and said he has four more workouts scheduled, including one with the Celtics.
The consensus is that Redick will be a "fit pick" -- a player who goes to a team that needs a shooter. Redick said one of the teams he has talked to said they would have taken him with their pick last year. He wouldn't give up the team's name, but said the pick was between 16 and 20. (Could it be Boston? The Celtics picked high schooler Gerald Green at No. 18 in 2005.)
"Had I known that, I still probably would have stayed at Duke," Redick said. "It would have been tempting but I wanted to stay at Duke for four years. My senior year set me up for this draft and prepared me for the NBA."
Redick, Morrison and Washington's Brandon Roy are clear examples of the benefit of staying in school. All three are expected to go higher in this draft because they were first-team All-Americans in their "extra" year of college after passing on the chance to leave after the previous season.
Redick's (and Morrison's) marketability has improved dramatically, too. He is recognizable wherever he goes. Picking Redick as the poster boy here at Disney probably wasn't an accident.
"[Adam and I] were talking about that at breakfast, how we're linked forever, with me playing at Duke and him at Gonzaga and the cult following both programs have," Redick said. "We're always going to have this and hopefully it will help our marketability."
Redick isn't searching for that attention just yet, though. He's been enjoying this lull -- one that ended when he arrived here.
"It's been nice where I've had a couple of months of minimal media requirements," said Redick, who has been using Los Angeles as his base since his agents, Arn Tellem and Bob Myers, are located in Southern California.
That comes after a season where Redick was the No. 1 option on a team that gets every foe's best shot.
"Playing at Duke is extremely demanding," he said. "You have to be great every day. Every game against us is on national TV and everybody guarding me thought they could make a name for themselves. You have to raise your level and bring your 'A' game every night."
That experience has helped prepare Redick for the next step. He is going in expecting to be a starter who does a little bit of everything from the guard spot.
"I don't think of me as a first guy off the bench, because I'm capable of being a starter," Redick said. "I may not be the first option [on offense], but I just want to win and a chance to compete."
Once he's drafted, he'll head to a summer league and then to Las Vegas for USA Basketball. If he makes the national team, he'll be in Asia for much of August before a quick respite and then training camp.
"Don't take this the wrong way, but being 'The Man' prepared me for playing [for USA Basketball], because I'll understand what is going through the minds of Kobe [Bryant] and LeBron [James]," Redick said. "I did it on a much smaller scale then they do it, but I'll understand where they want [the ball]."
If a team like Houston picks him, he's fine letting established stars like Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming get all the attention. Redick's had his time -- for now. He's not, though, going to shy away from questions that deal with the perception of what he can't do on the court. He continues to explain what he feels he can do -- play the game of basketball at an elite level.
He wouldn't be on a larger-than-life poster, even here in fairy tale land, if it weren't true, right?
Andy Katz is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
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Hopefully he will be another Jeff Hornacek but maybe even better.I would love to see him in a Celtic Uniform.Utah would be a great fit as would alot of other teams.I will root for JJ regardless of where he goes.I just would prefer it is a white friendly team that gives him a legitimate chance.Look what happened to Darko in Detroit.They wasted a couple years of his life and in his develpment.Good luck to JJ!
Reddick has been arrested for a DWI....
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=248206 1
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=248206 1
Redick was given a DWI after making an "illegal u-turn to avoid a police checkpoint." The "checkpoint" was in place late Monday early Tuesday. So Redick did not get a DWI because he was spotted driving his vehicle in an impaired manner, he got it because of bad luck, because he happened into the local Gestapo doing their unconstitutional, guilty-until-proven innocent roadblock thing.
Apparently "checkpoints" areon the way to beingput in place every night of the week, not just on weekends.The spirit of the Soviet Union lives on. Slavery is Freedom! War is Peace! Tell me again about how the Muslims are "jealous of our freedom."
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=248206 1[/url]
Apparently "checkpoints" areon the way to beingput in place every night of the week, not just on weekends.The spirit of the Soviet Union lives on. Slavery is Freedom! War is Peace! Tell me again about how the Muslims are "jealous of our freedom."
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=248206 1[/url]
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Mike Wilbon, the hate merchant at WashPost and ESPN, slams JJ Reddick once again: </font></font></font>
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He's Great Now, But Someone Else Could Be Better Later
By Michael Wilbon [Washington comPost>
Sunday, June 25, 2006; Page E01
One of my favorite things to do just before the NBA draft is look back at previous drafts to see just how wrong we all were and let it serve as a reminder of just how misguided we're all about to be. Don't get me wrong, if Duke's J.J. Redick was available and my team needed a shooter, even if it was a few spots too high, I'd take him. Shooting is always at a premium and the pure shooters will be even more valuable in this new wide-open style of play the league openly embraces. Redick, plain and simple, is the best shooter coming out of college.
But that doesn't mean he'll be the best shooter in the NBA. Shooting is something that can be learned. Magic Johnson, who had no shot to speak of when he got to the NBA, developed a set shot that, if not deadly, was particularly effective. The reason Michael Jordan wasn't drafted No. 1 in 1984 is that some scouts worried he couldn't shoot, that he wasn't effective facing the basket and had no real range. How'd that assessment work out?
It was true at the time, but times change. Reggie Miller was a slasher and medium-range shooter coming out of UCLA in 1987 and Dale Ellis was a post-up player coming out of Tennessee, but they became prolific long-range NBA shooters. Redick is the best shooter now. But Brandon Roy, a 6-foot-5 guard from the University of Washington, went from a 10 percent three-point shooter as a freshman to 22 percent as a sophomore to 35 percent as a junior to 40 percent as a senior. This kid might (or might not) turn into one of the great shooters in the league if his learning curve continues.
How do we know that 6-9 Serbian Milko Bjelica won't be the next Peja Stojakovic? Maybe somebody's system is better suited to throwing the ball up top to Kevin Pittsnogle, the 6-11 kid out of West Virginia, who hit 48 percent of his three-pointers as a freshman, then 43 percent as a junior and 40 percent last season on an astounding 227 attempts. Suppose U-Conn.'s Rashad Anderson, 6-6 and 215 pounds, gets to the NBA and becomes a gym rat the way Gilbert Arenas did?
The NBA draft isn't as unpredictable as the NFL draft, but there's nothing exact about it. With the 15th pick in the draft three years ago the Orlando Magic took Reece Gaines. The Boston Celtics, selecting 16th, took Troy Bell. Both clubs thought they were getting really good perimeter players who were worthy of middle first-round picks. But with the 21st pick, the Atlanta Hawks took Boris Diaw, a budding star who is now in Phoenix and may make Shawn Marion tradable. And with the last pick in that round, 29th, the Dallas Mavericks took Josh Howard, a critical ingredient on an NBA Finals team.
Oh, we can get even more dramatic. Cleveland, in 2000, took Jamal Crawford eighth. He was supposed to be, coming out of Michigan, a player who could swing anywhere in the backcourt or on the wing, and at 6-5, create his own shot. Playing in the same conference, however, at rival Ohio State, was a player we now know to be an extraordinary shooter, who was taken by Milwaukee (cheers to Ernie Grunfeld) in the second round with the overall 43rd pick: Michael Redd. Crawford averaged 14.3 points per game last season; Redd averaged 25.4.
You can play this game in every draft.
If you're Redick, the short-term satisfaction of being picked high and immediately making more money ought to be secondary to going into a situation where you can help a team win and set yourself up to make much more money.
Assuming his recently reported back injury doesn't dramatically alter his draft status, let's suppose Redick is available when Orlando picks at No. 11. Redick would find his life much easier on the perimeter teaming with a young beast like Dwight Howard down in the hole. Then again, perhaps life would be easier for Yao Ming if Houston was to take Redick with the eighth overall pick. Since the Suns have two picks (21 and 27 in the first round), maybe they'd like to trade up and select Redick, who might do pretty well on the floor with, say, Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion and Raja Bell.
The notion that Redick can't get his shot off in the NBA is absurd, but forecasting stardom for him is a reach. The wide-ranging opinions about him -- even scouts disagree dramatically -- is part of what will be so fun about seeing where one of college basketball's most intriguing player will start his pro career Wednesday night.
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He's Great Now, But Someone Else Could Be Better Later
By Michael Wilbon [Washington comPost>
Sunday, June 25, 2006; Page E01
One of my favorite things to do just before the NBA draft is look back at previous drafts to see just how wrong we all were and let it serve as a reminder of just how misguided we're all about to be. Don't get me wrong, if Duke's J.J. Redick was available and my team needed a shooter, even if it was a few spots too high, I'd take him. Shooting is always at a premium and the pure shooters will be even more valuable in this new wide-open style of play the league openly embraces. Redick, plain and simple, is the best shooter coming out of college.
But that doesn't mean he'll be the best shooter in the NBA. Shooting is something that can be learned. Magic Johnson, who had no shot to speak of when he got to the NBA, developed a set shot that, if not deadly, was particularly effective. The reason Michael Jordan wasn't drafted No. 1 in 1984 is that some scouts worried he couldn't shoot, that he wasn't effective facing the basket and had no real range. How'd that assessment work out?
It was true at the time, but times change. Reggie Miller was a slasher and medium-range shooter coming out of UCLA in 1987 and Dale Ellis was a post-up player coming out of Tennessee, but they became prolific long-range NBA shooters. Redick is the best shooter now. But Brandon Roy, a 6-foot-5 guard from the University of Washington, went from a 10 percent three-point shooter as a freshman to 22 percent as a sophomore to 35 percent as a junior to 40 percent as a senior. This kid might (or might not) turn into one of the great shooters in the league if his learning curve continues.
How do we know that 6-9 Serbian Milko Bjelica won't be the next Peja Stojakovic? Maybe somebody's system is better suited to throwing the ball up top to Kevin Pittsnogle, the 6-11 kid out of West Virginia, who hit 48 percent of his three-pointers as a freshman, then 43 percent as a junior and 40 percent last season on an astounding 227 attempts. Suppose U-Conn.'s Rashad Anderson, 6-6 and 215 pounds, gets to the NBA and becomes a gym rat the way Gilbert Arenas did?
The NBA draft isn't as unpredictable as the NFL draft, but there's nothing exact about it. With the 15th pick in the draft three years ago the Orlando Magic took Reece Gaines. The Boston Celtics, selecting 16th, took Troy Bell. Both clubs thought they were getting really good perimeter players who were worthy of middle first-round picks. But with the 21st pick, the Atlanta Hawks took Boris Diaw, a budding star who is now in Phoenix and may make Shawn Marion tradable. And with the last pick in that round, 29th, the Dallas Mavericks took Josh Howard, a critical ingredient on an NBA Finals team.
Oh, we can get even more dramatic. Cleveland, in 2000, took Jamal Crawford eighth. He was supposed to be, coming out of Michigan, a player who could swing anywhere in the backcourt or on the wing, and at 6-5, create his own shot. Playing in the same conference, however, at rival Ohio State, was a player we now know to be an extraordinary shooter, who was taken by Milwaukee (cheers to Ernie Grunfeld) in the second round with the overall 43rd pick: Michael Redd. Crawford averaged 14.3 points per game last season; Redd averaged 25.4.
You can play this game in every draft.
If you're Redick, the short-term satisfaction of being picked high and immediately making more money ought to be secondary to going into a situation where you can help a team win and set yourself up to make much more money.
Assuming his recently reported back injury doesn't dramatically alter his draft status, let's suppose Redick is available when Orlando picks at No. 11. Redick would find his life much easier on the perimeter teaming with a young beast like Dwight Howard down in the hole. Then again, perhaps life would be easier for Yao Ming if Houston was to take Redick with the eighth overall pick. Since the Suns have two picks (21 and 27 in the first round), maybe they'd like to trade up and select Redick, who might do pretty well on the floor with, say, Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion and Raja Bell.
The notion that Redick can't get his shot off in the NBA is absurd, but forecasting stardom for him is a reach. The wide-ranging opinions about him -- even scouts disagree dramatically -- is part of what will be so fun about seeing where one of college basketball's most intriguing player will start his pro career Wednesday night.
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His whole situation just makes me sick. How can people hate for no good reason at all?