green fire317 said:
if the pacers have a bad year then everyone will blame it on the white guys...but no one seems to care when the cheifs and rams go 2-14 and both of those teams have a lot of black players.
Just like the Snow Patrol was blamed for being the reason the Saints Defense sucked in 2007 so they brought in Jonathan Vilma to play mlb, hes not that big, isnt a hard hitter and he doesnt seem that athletic.
He does however play smart and takes good angles, but we got him because we needed to get more "affletic" at the linebacker position. People actually believe Vilma is more atheltic than Fujita when Fujita's athleticism is amazing for someone his size, 6'5, 250, ran a 4.5 40 yard dash had one of the highest vertical jumps with 42 inches. The defense did not improve that much with Vilma's arrival.
The only thing that changed in 2007 the dline wasnt getting pressure anymore or doing much of anything. The two DE's that are paid like top ten DE's got fat and sucked. Brian Young had pneumonia and missed most of the season. Since the Dline sucked the Linebackers had to pick up their slack in the run game, and the secondary was the main group that was getting burned partially because they suck and partially because the quarterback having all day to throw because of the pathetic de's.
In 2006 we had the Snow Patrol and that has been the best defense in the Sean Payton era, the difference is Brian Young was healthy and Grant and Smith were actually doing their jobs and were in shape getting pressure. We made it to the nfc championship, the secondary still was a weak point, FS Bullocks looked lost most of the time and CB Fred Thomas was too old and the FS was never where he was supposed to be to pick up the slack. But the Snow Patrol looked great.
2008 Vilma comes in the defense slightly improved, but not because of him, we put Kevin Kaesvaharn at FS and ran more cover 2 who covered up alot of the cornerbacks mistakes but the secondary was still getting burned because the defensive ends were still getting no pressure and Brian Young was injured again and missed some of the season, who do we get rid of in 2009, KK and Brian Young(who was the main reason we shut Adrian Peterson down and held him to 28 yards) There were talks of giving Young a coaching position and letting him play in 2010 if hes healthy which is good, hes better than Ellis (whose supposed to be the next warren sapp) when healthy but hes up there in age. Somehow KK is the one to blame. And the fans were screaming for Shanle to go even though he actually looked like he improved. Well they have been screaming for Shanle to go ever since he got here, yet every player they suggest to replace him never beats him out, but somehow hes less athletic than the guys backing him up.
yeah the black guy was actually talking better about Whites than the White guy on ESPN. The White guy said "it doesnt make sense if you want to win" The discussion I originally saw was around the horn, so it was on two shows today.
Edited by: dwid