SchaafC, come on, that's easy. I know you got more than that. House of Israel is referring the Jewish Law, ceremonial ,civil, and moral laws and the way the Jewish leadership was abusing their power, remember, Jesus cleared the Jewish leaders Temple twice for cheating people while exchanging currency. Really, you're going to take one verse out of context and use it against Jesus.
Matthew 21:12
We've had this debate before remember, you said Jesus only came for the Jews which is incorrect, I asked you about the thief on the cross, to which you had no answer, remember. I believe the thief was a Roman(Gentile) to which Jesus said that he would be in paradise with him.
It's confusing, I would think people here (CF) would atleast respect Jesus for calling the Jews out for their abuse of power!
If we're going to have this discussion again, maybe we should take it to PM's.
White guilt? What does that have to do with my faith. If you think I'm one of those that feel guilty about my race, you're quite wrong. Is that a personal attack?
Please explain?
Again, SchaafC, glad to see you back!
That is not what the "House Of Israel" means.
Israel is the name that according to Genesis 35:9-15 "god" gave to Jacob. Jacob's twelve sons becoming the twelve tribes of Israel, or The House of Israel.
The point you bring up about Jesus allegedly clearing out the money lenders in the temple is a moot one. Regardless if he did so or not(I think not), it does not change the fact that according to the bible; he still said that he only came for the House of Israel. That is undeniable and indisputable. I am not taking anything out of context in fact the verse that I posted was almost entirely intact. I will repost it in it's entirety.
Matthew 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the story. This was allegedly said by Jesus to a Canaanite(goy,gentile) woman who had asked him for help.
..I asked you about the thief on the cross, to which you had no answer, remember. I believe the thief was a Roman(Gentile) to which Jesus said that he would be in paradise with him.
Actually what I said is that I had not read the bible in a while and was not completely sure if the bible specified the race of this person. I also went on to say that I would assume that he was Jewish, seeing how it was Jerusalem. In the province of Judea. Your claim that he is Roman is unfounded, and you only say it because it fits your purpose.
Read
Luke 23:32-43
There is nothing there at all to support your claim. Actually to the contrary had they not been Jewish, the would have then been polytheistic as opposed to the monotheistic view represented in the statement in
Luke 23:40 "But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?"
Had he in fact been Roman, he would have said gods. Not "God" in the monotheistic Jewish way.
As for hating Jesus, I hate him as much as we all hate the liars you see who put down white athletes everyday. It's the lies that bother me and the lack of logic involved when otherwise smart people get into it. Not a personal attack on anyone at all.
When I said white guilt I was not referring to anyone on this board, rather the DWFs as we call them. The masses if you will.
As I said before, if I am incorrect and there is a God. They I truly believe that he will understand why I can not believe in him, and why I viscerally reject what bears his name. The things that have been done in the name of "god" are far more abhorrent then anything that I have or will ever do.
If there is in fact an all knowing and all understanding God I think that he would understand that he made me into the pragmatic, evidence needing person I am and therefore would understand or even expect; the rejection of this manifestation of him self.
Now let me ask you something what if you are wrong and the way you have lived your life, and what you have put so much effort into is all a lie. Then what? You will have lived for a false purpose. How can you even appreciate this life correctly if you expect a next one? I just don't get it.
Have you gone through the CofC?
It is a phenomenal read. I see Christianity as another one of "instruments" of the Jewish agenda. What the end goal is, I do not know, I do not profess to even have a theory. But they evidence is just too vivid for me to disregard.
Good to be back, sorry for the rant.
-Chris
