Holocaust specialists - UK

[Bart]

The mind shaping will only increase over time.


[url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article51 06164.ece[/url]


Every secondary school is to get a Holocaust specialist to ensure that the subject is taught comprehensively and sensitively.


One teacher from every school will be offered a place on a Holocaust education training course to combat racism and intolerance.


One in ten of those who take the course will also be able to take a master's degree module in Holocaust education, as part of a £1.5 million scheme run by the Institute of Education.


Teachers will discuss parts of the subject that they find difficult to teach and work on lesson plans with experts on how to broach the issue


Stuart Foster, director of the project, said: "There are increasing concerns in society about intolerance and racism. The BNP is coming to the forefront, and there's increased anti-Semitism."


The initiative is designed to maintain awareness of the Nazi's systematic massacre of the Jews during the Second World War as survivor numbers dwindle, Times Educational Supplement reports.


The project will launch on Sunday, the 70th anniversary of Kristallnacht â€â€￾ the night in 1938 when 91 Jews were killed, 30,000 were arrested and 191 synagogues were destroyed marking the beginning of the Nazi's genocide of the Jewish people.


Ruth-Anne Lenga, education consultant at the Jewish Museum, said that the Holocaust was often covered very briefly by schools despite being on the school curriculum. "It could be the emotiveness of the subject worries teachers, or it raises difficult moral challenges and questions. We want to ensure there's support."


The project will coincide with a survey testing teachers' knowledge of the subject and their teaching methods. It will ask teachers for their definition of "Holocaust" and whether they think teaching children about it is important.


The scheme is part of a wider Holocaust education project funded by the Government and the Pears Foundation charity. It is supported by the Holocaust Education Trust, which this year received £1.5 million from the Government to send two sixth-formers from every school to Auschwitz.

 

[Thrashen]

Ahh, but do they care what happened and IS STILL HAPPENING in places like South Africa? Haiti? Any African country than has whites?

The complete genocide, the torture, the rape, the deliberate spread of AIDS? Na, these arent real issues because they're happening to the ancestors of 'bigots' that 'deserved it anyway.' These arent real problems because they have nothing to do with our yiddish overlords (for once). Therefore, they have no vested interest in reporting, stopping, or even mentioning the horrors that are taking place.

No, no, allowing american and euro whites to see what blacks are really like in a majority setting....that might deflate the old 'multi-cultural' agenda (knowing american whites, not likely).

The places I named are events that are taking place RIGHT NOW! The Holocaust (assuming 'their' history books were telling the truth) happened 70 YEARS AGO! Hmm, I wonder why 'they' cant and wont let it go?

Just more scare tactics and lame, half-assed brainwashing to scare meak white sissy-boys away from using their superior minds to figure out the real problem and the real people trying to cause them harm. I didnt buy it when I was twelve years old, I'm certainly not buying it at 23.Edited by: Thrashen

 

[Freedom]

You know...many early public school advocates and founders were connected to the Haitian slave traders in the northeast. It's a fact that escapes most school textbooks.

 

[Observer]

You know...many early public school advocates and founders were connected to the Haitian slave traders in the northeast. It's a fact that escapes most school textbooks.

Please explain?

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

i am sorely lacking on accurate information regarding the so-called Holocaust.

however, there are so many obvious lies associated with the events in question that i have little choice but to doubt everything the mainstream puts forth as gospel, as i would any argument that has so many readily apparent holes in it.

where are some legitimate, verifiable sources i can go to educate myself?

 

[Freedom]

Observer, most early public school advocates had connections to the shipping trades of the northeast. The northeastern shipping merchants were often engaged in the Haitian slave trade.

 

[P-NutLane]

Very well said Thrashen.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

is the catholic church finally changing their position regarding the "Holocaust" hoax?

"Vodoh"-Revolution?

"Vatican's Open Debate on the Holocaust"

The Vatican deliberately avoided anything that could be interpreted as condemning Auxiliary Bishop Richard Williamson for publicly branding the holocaust story a lie and a huge exploitation of the German people.

When the Vatican departed from the Christian Gospel in 1965 as a result of the treacherous Concilium Vaticanum II, the Church of the Christian Redeemer was shock struck. As from then the Jewish agenda (John 8:43) was adopted as inspiration to the "Holy See". This led to the breakaway of a group of influential clergy men under the leadership of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre from the Roman Catholic Church. The SSPX (Society of Saint Pius X) was born.

The SSPX remained true to the Christian tenet and gained popularity around the world since. The spiritual leaders of the SSPX also knew that a church can't survive by conspiring with liars whilst the Vatican departed from the virtue of veracity. The Vatican since supported holocaust lies with verve.

The SSPX, in contrast, opposed the holocaust lie from the beginning. The true Christian Church did not want to be associated with the devil's agenda. Bishop Williamson, who was appointed by the founder of the SSPX, Archbishop Lefebvre, to pursue with his lifework, openly condemned the holocaust. Recently even in an interview with Swedish TV that caused uproar in the Jewish world. The interview was televised at a time when Benedict XVI was about to lift the ban of excommunication of the four SSPX-Bishops. World Jewry hoped the holocaust interview of Bishop Williamson would hinder the Pope to rehabilitate the revisionist clergy man.

However, this time the Pope did not bow to Jewish pressure and welcomed all four SSPX-Bishops back to the fold. Jewry screamed, yelled and threatened the Pope: "Shimon Samuels, of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Paris, said he understood the German-born pope's desire for Christian unity but said Benedict could have excluded Williamson, whose return to the church will 'cost' the Vatican politically." (Guardian, 25.01.09)

It is true the Pope could have easily excluded Bishop Williamson from being rehabilitated. But he flatly refused to comply. Whether Benedict acted under pressure from groups of influential Cardinals, or whether he cunningly wants to retaliate because Jewry libels the memory of Pope Pius XII as having aided and abetted the holocaust, remains unknown. Time will tell about the real motives and the divine forces behind the pope when rehabilitating Bishop Williamson.

The media hacks, sent out by the Jewish lobby, spitefully asked at the Vatican's press conference, why Bishop Williamson was welcomed back to the fold, despite of his "holocaust denial". What the world heard then, was never heard since the globe's soul had been crippled by false holocaust narrative. The Vatican's spokesman refrained self-confident from the demand to condemn Bishop Williamson. Instead, a stunned gang of hacks was told that the Bishop's holocaust lecture was "open to criticism". "Senior Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi fought back yesterday, telling the Observer: 'Williamson's statements are not agreed with and are open to criticism, and they have nothing to do with the lifting of the excommunication. One is not connected to the other. The Society of Saint Pius X has itself distanced itself from these statements'." (The Observer, Sunday 25 January 2009)

"Open to criticism" means "open to debate" the so-called holocaust. Are we witnessing the beginning of a "Vodoh"-Revolution? We now realise that the holocaust story is not going to "survive".

 

[Solomon Kane]

Yes, this is most interesting...when the vatican openly tells the faithful that its perfectly OK to be unconvinced by thetraditional account ofthe Holocaustthen that will bethe real icebreaker.


On a sad note, Williamson's immediate superior, De Fellay, the leader of the St. Pius X society, has repudiated williamson's remarks, and demanded that he apologize. Bad move, he could have just said: "well that's the bishop's opinion", but "the society has no official position on these historical controversies."

 

[Freedom]

Around 11 million people died in the holocaust. The Nazis killed millions of people. Disagreements about the numbers don't change the evils of Nazism.

A morally relevant question is, "Why does one genocide that happened over 60 years ago matter more than all others?" Or, "Why do holocaust survivors and their descendants deserve reparations but not killed German conscripts like the "Swing Kids?""

Why is it politically incorrect to use the expression "jew him down," but it's perfectly acceptable to use the phrase, "I've been gypped!"

Though the Gypsies do secretly run the world through their international ring toss conspiracy. They make it look like you can win the big prizes with mirrors, but no, the rings never fit.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

I'm not pro-Nazi, as they were right wing socialists. I also don't condone genocide. I'm anti-Zionist, so I can understand some mistrust, etc.

I believe there were concentration camps were the Jews were exterminated, however...I think the numbers were/are greatly embellished to induce sympathy for the Zionist agenda (while inducing "White guilt"). I seriously question some of the "Holocaust" figures/estimates...but I believe there was mass persecution of Der Juden by the Nazis.

 

[Freedom]

I'm not accusing you of being pro-Nazi! I know you're not pro-Nazi.

As far as Zionism is concerned, it fit right in with the Nazi agenda. Hitler said he wanted to rid Germany of the Jews. Deportation was discussed and Madagascar and Israel were options. After Hitler's holocaust, I'm pretty sure the Jewish population was between 10,000 and 15,000 and most Ashkenazi went to Israel. In a demented way, Hitler was successful. I guess it shows why Nazism is truly soulless since it's success just brought sadness and destruction.

 

[Tom Iron]

Good morning Gentlemen,

Interesting discussion. However, it's not really important or not anymore whether the Holocaust ever happened or not anymore (I don't believe it did). What is important is that Israel is more r less finished. We've all been looking in the wrong direction of the issue of Israel. The issue is and always has been religious in nature. Never once did the Orthodox Rabbis recognize the state of Israel. They stuck to their guns and fought the Zionist idea from the start to the present day. In the end, Israel will just evaporate. It'll be the last guy out turn out the lights type of thing. All the killings on both sides would have been for naught. It was always just a matter of time.

Very interesting.

Fred Reed has a good article on this out now. fredoneverything.org

Tom Iron...

 

[jaxvid]

Why is there a holocaust museum in the US paid for by the taxpayers? What do we have to do with it? The US paid with blood and money as much as anyone to defeat the Germans in World War II so why is the museum here. This isn't a jewish country, this isn't the place where it happened, our govt had no say in the policies. I just don't get it. Of course I do get it, this is a jewish controlled state and as a symbol of their power they use our own money to build memorials for themselves and then teach us to worship at them.

 

[dbwave]

Good morning Gentlemen,

Interesting discussion. However, it's not really important or not anymore whether the Holocaust ever happened or not anymore (I don't believe it did). What is important is that Israel is more r less finished. We've all been looking in the wrong direction of the issue of Israel. The issue is and always has been religious in nature. Never once did the Orthodox Rabbis recognize the state of Israel. They stuck to their guns and fought the Zionist idea from the start to the present day. In the end, Israel will just evaporate. It'll be the last guy out turn out the lights type of thing. All the killings on both sides would have been for naught. It was always just a matter of time.

Very interesting.

Fred Reed has a good article on this out now. fredoneverything.org

Tom Iron...

Tom are you kidding. Holocaust did not happen?? Please explain to me how over half of my family persished in concentration camps. How it wiped generations of my families blood line. Have you ever spoken to a surviovor? Maybe you should. It might bring your anti jewish atttude down a notch.


I understand your sentiments against Jews and Israel but please don't let that warp your reality. The holocaust happened. The numbers are real. My families blood is proof.

 

[Don Wassall]

Why is there a holocaust museum in the US paid for by the taxpayers? What do we have to do with it? The US paid with blood and money as much as anyone to defeat the Germans in World War II so why is the museum here. This isn't a jewish country, this isn't the place where it happened, our govt had no say in the policies. I just don't get it. Of course I do get it, this is a jewish controlled state and as a symbol of their power they use our own money to build memorials for themselves and then teach us to worship at them.

According to this site, there are 24 "Holocaust museums" just in the U.S.


http://www.science.co.il/holocaust-museums.asp

 

[Electric Slide]

Why is there a holocaust museum in the US paid for by the taxpayers? What do we have to do with it? The US paid with blood and money as much as anyone to defeat the Germans in World War II so why is the museum here. This isn't a jewish country, this isn't the place where it happened, our govt had no say in the policies. I just don't get it. Of course I do get it, this is a jewish controlled state and as a symbol of their power they use our own money to build memorials for themselves and then teach us to worship at them.

I absolutely agree. That museum is just a big propoganda museum designed to make people feel really bad for Jewish people. Whenever 8th grade classes take field trips to DC, a stop at the Holocaust museum is not a right of passage. I have heard so many people say "I know we talked about it in history class, but now I really know what the Jews have gone through after going to that museum."

As others have mentioned, the Holocaust was a bad thing, and yes the nazis were fascist/socialists that wanted total government control of everything. It's just that I think the Holocaust is just another in a long line of bad things that have happened in human history. Even in the 20th century, I believe more died in USSR gulags than in the nazi concentration camps. That I believe gets about one paragraph in the 10th grade world history textbook.

 

[Tom Iron]

dbwave,

Sir, I guess we disagree once again. Have you ever heard of William Shakespeares "Me thinks, Thou dost protest too much?" It seems to me there's been far too much going on about the "Holocaust."

As far as the quote by the British bishop goes, once again, it looks like there too much oposition to him from the Zionists. Doesn't seem li8ke they're sure of their ground.

I suggest you read Dr. Norman Finkelstein's book entitled "The Holocaust Industry," or you may like to read "Adolph Eichmann; The Banality of Evil" by Hanna Arendt. Very interesting reads.

This is not to say there weren't Jews murdered during WWII. All I'm saying is that I don't believe that anywhere near 6 million Jews were murdered. Let's face it, the only reason the Zinists were able to get a share of Palestine was the 6 million figure. If the world didn't think that many Jews had perished, nobody would have given them anything. So, they had to manufacture something to get what they wanted. Don't you ever ask yourself why the Palesinians had to pay for what the Germans supposedly did?

Let me leave you with another quote by Willy S. "Oh what a tangled web we weeve, when first we practice to deceive." Pretty fair, don't you think?

Tom Iron...

 

[DixieDestroyer]

No U.S. taxpayer dollars should be funding any "Holocaust" Muesuem (meant to further induce White guilt). We all know there's billions of taxpayer dollars squandered on a myriad of pork, so this is just another example of such waste. I personally feel NO guilt for slavery, the "Holocaust", Jim Crow laws, etc...as I had nothing to do with any of it.

 

[Freedom]

Another of my crazy ideas that I'll probably put on another thread is that the most persecuted minority group in the world over the past 40-50 years, has been the lebensborn and their children in Communist Sweeden and Norway. They were denied all of the welfare that was supposedly their "right" in a Marxist country. They were threatened and persecuted brutally. Their only crime, being born.

 

[tiger tracks]

Tom are you kidding. Holocaust did not happen?? Please explain to me how over half of my family persished in concentration camps. How it wiped generations of my  families blood line. Have you ever spoken to a surviovor? Maybe you should. It might bring your anti jewish atttude down a notch.


I understand your sentiments against Jews and Israel but please don't let that warp your reality. The holocaust happened. The numbers are real. My families blood is proof.

How many in your family died in the gas chambers?

I'll answer that question for you; none.

How does your family prove "the numbers are real"? They don't.

 

[aussieaussie31]

With all the time, money, and effort that they spend trying to push the holocaust agenda you really have to wonder.
I believe alot of Jews died, that is obvious. However when you look at the facts I am of the opinion that there was no plan to exterminate all the Jews of Europe. Hogwash all the way.
Hell, how many Russians died?
How many Italians died?
How many Polish died?
How many Frenchmen?
Hungarians?
Uzbek's?
Everyone suffers in war. It is a shame that many innocent Jews were treated the way they were. However taking ONE group and putting them above even God is bulls*it.
I think it was David Duke that said In Europe today you can deny the existence of God and be congratulated as a enlightened progressive while denying the holocaust will actually get you put in prison.
That tells me all I need to know in regards to who controls what.
The ONE (and only one) alleged historical incident that is beyond debate, and beyond critique is the alleged holocaust. Furthermore, if questioning it can get you put in jail (and it can as 80 year old scholar Ernst Zundel currently sits in a German prison) then that should tell all WHO makes the laws, and WHO sets public policy. I think we all know.

 

[Kaptain]

The holocaust is such an obvious hoax to justify yet another war that we didn't need to stick our nose into that it is almost comic book style laughable. Shrunken heads, Jew-skin lamps, Jew-soap, gas chambers, steam-chambers, etc. A rather obvious hoax - amazing that we as a country were so incredibly gullible.

 

[dbwave]

The holocaust is such an obvious hoax to justify yet another war that we didn't need to stick our nose into that it is almost comic book style laughable. Shrunken heads, Jew-skin lamps, Jew-soap, gas chambers, steam-chambers, etc. A rather obvious hoax - amazing that we as a country were so incredibly gullible.

You guys are bunch of idiots. This will be my last post. Half of my family persihed in the holocuast. Shame on all you. You are a disgrace to the white race. Go to hell where you belong.

 

[tiger tracks]

Oy Vey, half my family perished in the Holocaust. My great uncle Sol survived 6 gassings, but he finally succumbed to the 7th, bless his heart and don't ask how the Nazis tricked him so many times. My aunt Ruth was experimented on by that naughty Dr. Mengele, her twin sister died of breast cancer 48 years later because of his evil experiments.

Edited by: tiger tracks