Heisman Trophy Presentation

[sport historian]

The Heisman Trophy will be presented tonight (Saturday December 8) on ESPN at 8pm ET. Right after, ESPN has a "30 for 30" on Bo Jackson. The theme is that Bo is in danger of being forgotten after being an icon of the 1980's.

 

[whiteathlete33]

The Heisman Trophy will be presented tonight (Saturday December 8) on ESPN at 8pm ET. Right after, ESPN has a "30 for 30" on Bo Jackson. The theme is that Bo is in danger of being forgotten after being an icon of the 1980's.

Will you be rooting for the black candidates as usual? Why would anyone here care about Bo Jackson? As usual, your agenda is a clear as it gets. I'm shocked that no one here calls you out on your bs. Just like when you started your usual nonsense in the boxing forums. After this, as always, I will ignore you.

 

[Zeus]

Will you be rooting for the black candidates as usual? Why would anyone here care about Bo Jackson? As usual, your agenda is a clear as it gets. I'm shocked that no one here calls you out on your bs. Just like when you started your usual nonsense in the boxing forums. After this, as always, I will ignore you.

Nobody is calling him out in here, because this site, just like every western society of today is rotten as well. Of course this doesn't go against the good and loyal white brothers of this site, but this site is full of undercover anti-white scums, which is one of the reasons I almost never come in here anymore.

I belong to the glorious Golden Dawn and I know what it is to belong to a TRUE WHITE PRO group of people and this site is nothing like that. Here you have members who attack other white nations like it's a joke to them, they attack the history of white lands, the morphology of other white men etc and none bothers. Yet someone like me has been suspended and is being attacked on regular basis, just for showing too much passion and "non political correct" attitude..........The owner of this site doesn't mind either, he only care to tell me what is right and what is wrong and that he's the boss in this site and i should respect him, like I ever cared for owning this site or something.

This site is nothing more than a small society of the US and the western world in general, if one is a noble thinker and just pay attention to this site and the hidden agenda of specific members, he will realize that the "Zionist" is EVERYWHERE, even in this site (you heard me) and he does his job really well.

Respect to EVERY single white brother around the globe giving his ultimate fight for the common purpose, but USA has no future for our kind, it's a plain fact.

The war we receive as Golden Dawn from the west is out of space, but we all agree that the US and their Zionist media and UK and their Zionist media are the ones who try to destroy us with the most passion.

USA&UK are lost cases and this site has nothing to offer. The owner of this site "commands" what they command.............Political correctness, "proper" speech, "kindness and logic" when the enemy is attacking to eat your heart and such non sense.

As soon as white brothers will realize that we keep shrinking and dying and losing our lands because they have taught us to be peaceful and kind during a war that the enemy attacks us with all he has, then we might have a chance...........if not, then just bend over and die or ask for mercy and "equal rights" like our brothers do in South Africa and let's see if any of the enemies is willing to co-live and co-exist with you

My two cents.

 

[dwid]

The idea is to attract people on the fence. The average White male has been so brainwashed his entire life that it is very unlikely that he will just jump into being super pro White. That kind of stuff turns people away. Also the whole "better than you" attitude turns people away as well, it comes off as arrogant. "GLORIUS GOLDEN DAWN"

You offer no constructive criticism, just insults.

You are "so dedicated to White cause" and say we attack other White nations, yet you are willing to write the entire United States off, isn't that similar? At least the owner of this site is trying to do something, its a hell of a lot harder in this country. What exactly are you doing in the "glorius golden dawn" that benefits the White race so much?



but I agree, I don't know why we constantly have to hear about all these specials on black players. All of these shows have an agenda, even the one with Riggins, one of the first things they said is that his teammates thought he had some black in him. They really even didn't do a "new" show about him, it was pretty much just a bunch of clips put together from previous shows with a little added commentary. The Chris Spielman wasn't really about him, it was about breast cancer for about 1/2 of the show.

 

[dwid]

As for the Heisman presentation, they keep talking about how great of a guy Te'o is and how great his character is. Why isn't more mentioned about Klein? He is similar to Tebow in his faith. He vowed he wouldn't kiss a girl until he got married, his first kiss was at the altar to his wife. Yeah its great that Tebow is saving himself but I think people can't relate to him since he is still a virgin, Klein is married and also doing things the right way. There are a ton of other great qualities about Klein that just aren't mentioned except those written by local sportswriters. I had to hear about how great a guy Te'o was the entire game I watched the other week, and they kept focusing the camera on him on the sidelines.

Yeah he did poor against Baylor, but I believe he was injured. The coach has a strict policy on not letting people know about injuries. There was a game where he came out and nobody even knew why, the last play he ran for a td, but he has played hurt before. I know his finger was sprained or something earlier in the season. The idea is that when teams know about it they will attack those injuries, which is true to a certain extent.

as far as Manziel, he is just on a whole different level. Someone one EPSN actually put it best, "his ability to improvise while staying within the confines of the offense", they picked Doug Flutie as who he reminded him of. He resembles him but his running ability is just so much better and seems to have the arm of Favre.

 

[white defensive back]

Zeus is the like the Trojan army. Hes big, patriotic and they both came inside a giant horse.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Nobody is calling him out in here, because this site, just like every western society of today is rotten as well. Of course this doesn't go against the good and loyal white brothers of this site, but this site is full of undercover anti-white scums, which is one of the reasons I almost never come in here anymore.

I belong to the glorious Golden Dawn and I know what it is to belong to a TRUE WHITE PRO group of people and this site is nothing like that. Here you have members who attack other white nations like it's a joke to them, they attack the history of white lands, the morphology of other white men etc and none bothers. Yet someone like me has been suspended and is being attacked on regular basis, just for showing too much passion and "non political correct" attitude..........The owner of this site doesn't mind either, he only care to tell me what is right and what is wrong and that he's the boss in this site and i should respect him, like I ever cared for owning this site or something.

This site is nothing more than a small society of the US and the western world in general, if one is a noble thinker and just pay attention to this site and the hidden agenda of specific members, he will realize that the "Zionist" is EVERYWHERE, even in this site (you heard me) and he does his job really well.

Respect to EVERY single white brother around the globe giving his ultimate fight for the common purpose, but USA has no future for our kind, it's a plain fact.

The war we receive as Golden Dawn from the west is out of space, but we all agree that the US and their Zionist media and UK and their Zionist media are the ones who try to destroy us with the most passion.

USA&UK are lost cases and this site has nothing to offer. The owner of this site "commands" what they command.............Political correctness, "proper" speech, "kindness and logic" when the enemy is attacking to eat your heart and such non sense.

As soon as white brothers will realize that we keep shrinking and dying and losing our lands because they have taught us to be peaceful and kind during a war that the enemy attacks us with all he has, then we might have a chance...........if not, then just bend over and die or ask for mercy and "equal rights" like our brothers do in South Africa and let's see if any of the enemies is willing to co-live and co-exist with you

My two cents.

Zeus, where have you been? Let't go Johnny Football!

 

[TBProdigy]

Nobody is calling him out in here, because this site, just like every western society of today is rotten as well. Of course this doesn't go against the good and loyal white brothers of this site, but this site is full of undercover anti-white scums, which is one of the reasons I almost never come in here anymore.

I belong to the glorious Golden Dawn and I know what it is to belong to a TRUE WHITE PRO group of people and this site is nothing like that. Here you have members who attack other white nations like it's a joke to them, they attack the history of white lands, the morphology of other white men etc and none bothers. Yet someone like me has been suspended and is being attacked on regular basis, just for showing too much passion and "non political correct" attitude..........The owner of this site doesn't mind either, he only care to tell me what is right and what is wrong and that he's the boss in this site and i should respect him, like I ever cared for owning this site or something.

This site is nothing more than a small society of the US and the western world in general, if one is a noble thinker and just pay attention to this site and the hidden agenda of specific members, he will realize that the "Zionist" is EVERYWHERE, even in this site (you heard me) and he does his job really well.

Respect to EVERY single white brother around the globe giving his ultimate fight for the common purpose, but USA has no future for our kind, it's a plain fact.

The war we receive as Golden Dawn from the west is out of space, but we all agree that the US and their Zionist media and UK and their Zionist media are the ones who try to destroy us with the most passion.

USA&UK are lost cases and this site has nothing to offer. The owner of this site "commands" what they command.............Political correctness, "proper" speech, "kindness and logic" when the enemy is attacking to eat your heart and such non sense.

As soon as white brothers will realize that we keep shrinking and dying and losing our lands because they have taught us to be peaceful and kind during a war that the enemy attacks us with all he has, then we might have a chance...........if not, then just bend over and die or ask for mercy and "equal rights" like our brothers do in South Africa and let's see if any of the enemies is willing to co-live and co-exist with you

My two cents.

Where have you been man?

 

[The Hock]

With so many Heisman's being either black or white, I can't see this chance to pick an "other" being passed up by the voters. Especially with all the other candidates having off games on their records. So the multi-culti conditioning kicks in, the Islander wins, and the Chris Matthew types get a shiver running up (or was it down, I can't remember) their leg.

And the beat goes on...

 

[foobar75]

With so many Heisman's being either black or white, I can't see this chance to pick an "other" being passed up by the voters. Especially with all the other candidates having off games on their records. So the multi-culti conditioning kicks in, the Islander wins, and the Chris Matthew types get a shiver running up (or was it down, I can't remember) their leg.

And the beat goes on...

They have been buttering up Te'o for a while now, so yes, he's most likely going to win it. The Heisman is really another extension of the caste system now. Unless you have someone like Tebow who's so much above all the others that they can't deny him, or the non-white finalists are so weak that they have to give it to a White player, they'll always prefer an afflete. Mark Ingram and Gremlin are the latest two examples, where more deserving White players (Gerhart & Luck, respectively) were passed over. It's about to happen again this evening.

 

[Don Wassall]

Has Te'o had a great season, or is his candidacy based mostly on excessive sentimental sappiness due to a non-White suffering a personal tragedy and impressing everyone with how well he's dealt with it? How often does a linebacker make the final Heisman cut? A good example is Luke Kuechly; I don't remember any Heisman hype surrounding his monster season last year.

 

[Leonardfan]

Scouts are doing their best to tear down Klein and Manziel's pro prospects:

Texas A&M quarterback Johnny "Football" Manziel: One NFL talent evaluator compared Manziel to former Duke standout Bobby Hurley, saying he's the best point guard in America, able to dish it off or take the ball to the hoop himself with his rare athletic instincts. Alabama coach Nick Saban once compared Manziel to Doug Flutie, though NFL scouts do not believe the Texas A&M quarterback has the same type of arm strength. One scout said Manziel, who's listed as 6-1, is more like Fran Tarkenton, able to scramble or throw the ball pretty accurately. NFL scouts are uneasy about his Manziel's size. They also are uncertain how high he'll wind up going when he turns pro or what type of quarterback he'll be, given that he's only a redshirt freshman. But even NFL evaluators are enamored with watching Manziel work his magic.

• Kansas State quarterback Collin Klein: What's most impressive to NFL scouts is how Klein excelled with so little talent surrounding him. Yet the NFL is torn over what to make of Klein, who has a funky motion and great intangibles but is hardly a classic pocket passer. One evaluator said Klein was a cross between former Jaguars first-round pick Matt Jones and former Broncos first-round pick Tim Tebow, each of whom has struggled to find a home at the NFL level. Klein has Jones' long-stride speed and Tebow's unimpeachable character, but his skill set has not wowed NFL scouts even if his determination has. Klein is viewed as a late-round pick.

If Klein was black all the "experts" would be saying he has so much upside, athleticism and potential at the next level yet since he is white he is denigrated and torn down. I think Klein can be taken as a QB or WR depending on the team. It will be interesting to see what he runs and how he tests out. Personally I would take him as a QB - I don't see much difference in ability or athleticism between him and Scam who has the backing of the media and DWFandom. Such obvious double standards.

Manziel is being lambasted for his height yet all the castewhores love Pete Carroll's black midget QB who is 2 inches shorter and not the same caliber athlete Manziel is.

Teo should in no way win the Heisman - he was not the best defender in the country, he was not the best linebacker in the country, he gets Notre Dame bias and hype to his advantage. He is a non-white and I think all the voters would love to have a non white win it especially as a defender over two white players who were better and more instrumental to their respective teams success. So if he wins it - like someone else said earlier in the thread - Manziel and Klein will be screwed over just like Gerhart and Luck have been in recent years.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Scouts are doing their best to tear down Klein and Manziel's pro prospects:

Texas A&M quarterback Johnny "Football" Manziel: One NFL talent evaluator compared Manziel to former Duke standout Bobby Hurley, saying he's the best point guard in America, able to dish it off or take the ball to the hoop himself with his rare athletic instincts. Alabama coach Nick Saban once compared Manziel to Doug Flutie, though NFL scouts do not believe the Texas A&M quarterback has the same type of arm strength. One scout said Manziel, who's listed as 6-1, is more like Fran Tarkenton, able to scramble or throw the ball pretty accurately. NFL scouts are uneasy about his Manziel's size. They also are uncertain how high he'll wind up going when he turns pro or what type of quarterback he'll be, given that he's only a redshirt freshman. But even NFL evaluators are enamored with watching Manziel work his magic.

• Kansas State quarterback Collin Klein: What's most impressive to NFL scouts is how Klein excelled with so little talent surrounding him. Yet the NFL is torn over what to make of Klein, who has a funky motion and great intangibles but is hardly a classic pocket passer. One evaluator said Klein was a cross between former Jaguars first-round pick Matt Jones and former Broncos first-round pick Tim Tebow, each of whom has struggled to find a home at the NFL level. Klein has Jones' long-stride speed and Tebow's unimpeachable character, but his skill set has not wowed NFL scouts even if his determination has. Klein is viewed as a late-round pick.

If Klein was black all the "experts" would be saying he has so much upside, athleticism and potential at the next level yet since he is white he is denigrated and torn down. I think Klein can be taken as a QB or WR depending on the team. It will be interesting to see what he runs and how he tests out. Personally I would take him as a QB - I don't see much difference in ability or athleticism between him and Scam who has the backing of the media and DWFandom. Such obvious double standards.

Manziel is being lambasted for his height yet all the castewhores love Pete Carroll's black midget QB who is 2 inches shorter and not the same caliber athlete Manziel is.

Teo should in no way win the Heisman - he was not the best defender in the country, he was not the best linebacker in the country, he gets Notre Dame bias and hype to his advantage. He is a non-white and I think all the voters would love to have a non white win it especially as a defender over two white players who were better and more instrumental to their respective teams success. So if he wins it - like someone else said earlier in the thread - Manziel and Klein will be screwed over just like Gerhart and Luck have been in recent years.

Kuechly had like what twice as many tackles as Teo and he received no Heisman hype. I say give it to Johnny Football, the most exciting college player since Tebow.

 

[Riddlewire]

I'm expecting Te'o to win.
The black voters will block vote for him.
Meanwhile, the white voters will split their votes fairly evenly among all three.

This pattern applies to pretty much any vote of any kind in modern human civilization.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

If this award is meant to go to the "best" player in college football then it must go to Johnny football. If Klien gets it then thats at least somewhat fair. If they give it to Teo then the award is just a joke, and the voters are racist idiots. I bet the powers that be are angry that no black was good enough to compete for it this year.

 

[sport historian]

Will you be rooting for the black candidates as usual? Why would anyone here care about Bo Jackson? As usual, your agenda is a clear as it gets. I'm shocked that no one here calls you out on your bs. Just like when you started your usual nonsense in the boxing forums. After this, as always, I will ignore you.

Yawn. I was mocking ESPN for their concern about Jackson being "forgotten." By your own account, you are too stupid to understand or appreciate irony.

I started the thread hoping Johnny Manziel would be awarded the Heisman Trophy tonight.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Yawn. I was mocking ESPN for their concern about Jackson being "forgotten." By your own account, you are too stupid to understand or appreciate irony.

I started the thread hoping Johnny Manziel would be awarded the Heisman Trophy tonight.

I'm sure you were old timer. Just like your genius posts in the boxing thread about Holmes and all the "great" black fighters from your era. Seems that you were exposed there fairly quickly!

 

[Don Wassall]

Let's see, a thread about the Heisman Trophy quickly deteriorates as our Greek friend posts his usual cartoonish rant that has nothing to do with the topic, followed by a flame war and name calling. Thanks so much for your support of the site.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

I think it was sports historians meaningless Bo Jackson plug that caused the thread to "deteriorate" right from the beginning. As far as the Heisman talk I just heard three out of three talking heads admit it was Johnny football that deserves it. Of course the make up covered mulatto in the middle said he thinks Teo will get it, but hey at least he admitted Johnny deserves it.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think it was sports historians meaningless Bo Jackson plug that caused the thread to "deteriorate" right from the beginning. As far as the Heisman talk I just heard three out of three talking heads admit it was Johnny football that deserves it. Of course the make up covered mulatto in the middle said he thinks Teo will get it, but hey at least he admitted Johnny deserves it.

What did the third post have to do with the topic of the thread? And the second for that matter? Both were instant attack posts.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I think it was sports historians meaningless Bo Jackson plug that caused the thread to "deteriorate" right from the beginning. As far as the Heisman talk I just heard three out of three talking heads admit it was Johnny football that deserves it. Of course the make up covered mulatto in the middle said he thinks Teo will get it, but hey at least he admitted Johnny deserves it.

The last three winners were Newton,Griffin, and Ingram of course. I want Manziel to win but I'll be fine with Klein. Both are deserving. The Samoan guy is a good linebacker but if he wins it's complete bs on the part of the voters.

Funny how no one is talking about the Samoan players athleticism. He runs about a 4.75. That's not slow for a linebacker but it isn't all that great either. Kuechly always had question marks leading up to the draft about his athleticism. He had to run a blazing fast 4.58 to quiet the critics and DWF's.

Plus I should add that if he wins he will be the only player other than Charles Woodson to win playing defense.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

What did the third post have to do with the topic of the thread? And the second for that matter? Both were instant attack posts.

I suppose they could be taken as attack posts, but without the useless, meaningless mention of Bo Jackson they would never have been posted. I mean seriously whiteathlete33 was just asking in a very rude, and frustrated way "who cares about Bo Jackson on here?" While as usual Zeus is all fire, and brimstone. He does make some decent points, but he is VERY offensive.

 

[Don Wassall]

Ok, let's stick to the Heisman Trophy presentation and winner from this point on.

 

[Don Wassall]

It's probably not a complimentary comparison, but Manziel reminds me of the lead singer from a now forgotten rock band called The Tubes.

[video=youtube;mQ_k_VG6Syc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ_k_VG6Syc[/video]​

 

[white lightning]

If I had a vote it would be for Johnny Football. Since I don't, I kind of want to see Collin Klein win since this is his last chance. He is a married man of high character who is as amazing on the field as he is off the field. He is the type of guy that every american kid used to have posters of on his wall. He is just like Tebow a role model. He has put Kstate on the national map for 4 years now and he is every bit as deserving at Manziel.

I will be happy either way though.