Gennady Golovkin

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I just watched it. Wow. That was a beat down. Triple G can really hurt a guy. I'd like to see him put some of that on some of the USA's finest.
 

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I just watched it. Wow. That was a beat down. Triple G can really hurt a guy. I'd like to see him put some of that on some of the USA's finest.
The only Amerikan fighter ranked in the top 10 of middleweights is Kid Cocoa Quillin. GGG would put the same finish on the affelet that Ishida suffered. Interestingly, in the other glamour division, Heavyweight. There is only one black ranked in the top ten as well. Tony Thompson at No. 10.

Times have indeed changed since the 80s and early 90s. White fighters utterly dominate in these weight classifications. Great!

Without a doubt, GGG is the future of boxing in the 160 lbs division and possibly 154 lbs division IMHO. Exciting fighter.
 

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Why do you say South Africa? The (excellent) referee was South African, but the fight was broadcast from the Principality of Monaco.
The promoter was Rodney Berman and the team that broadcasted the fight was a salt and pepper team from South Africa. I felt like I was watching a speaking version of the Gods Must be Crazy without the tribal calls. Also they only used the basic camera angles. Maybe you saw a different broadcast?
 

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The promoter was Rodney Berman and the team that broadcasted the fight was a salt and pepper team from South Africa. I felt like I was watching a speaking version of the Gods Must be Crazy without the tribal calls. Also they only used the basic camera angles. Maybe you saw a different broadcast?


Ha ha! Do you remember that movie then? It was a very excellent movie about a Bushman in the Kalahari. The Bushmen (Khoisan/Capoid) are not Negroes. Those poor guys were the original inhabitants of southern Africa. They got it in the neck from both the Europeans coming in from the Cape, and the Negroes coming down from the north. The liberals don't care about the Bushmen much because 1. It's pretty hard to say that they are exactly the same as everyone else except for the tincture of their skin, esp. the Bushwomen; and 2. They are not very violent, not nearly as "sexy" as big bull Negro. The "anti-racists" don't care about the pygmy negroes in the Congo for the same reason. Big negroes eat them like potato chips, but not a peep from the NY Times and President Barry et al.

That film and its sequel became international hits despite the zoggish boycott of S.A. (when it was really S.A.) They even removed the credits at the end showing where it was made so as not to offend the you know whats.

I saw the same broadcast as you did I'm sure. I do recall the overhead camera shot at the beginning and thought, uh oh, are they going to be doing this all fight long? I hate those artsy boxing camera angles, esp. the overhead one. They were messing with that in the US a number of years ago too.
 

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What's Golovkin doing back on the ham and egg circuit? He's had a couple fights on HBO or Showtime (I forget which). What scatterbrain is managing him? He should only be fighting names now.

Maybe he likes to travel?
 
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What's Golovkin doing back on the ham and egg circuit? He's had a couple fights on HBO or Showtime (I forget which). What scatterbrain is managing him? He should only be fighting names now.

Maybe he likes to travel?

These kind of fights irritate me. Ishida is coming off 2 losses prior to this fight so why does he even deserve a tital shot? He's not a top class fighter and had little to no chance of winning this fight. This is an indicator to me that Golovkin is being avoided big time right now. There is a mile long list of guys for GGG to fight ahead of Ishida. I'd like to see him fight Quillin next, then Martinez.
 

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Triple G fights on HBO almost exclusively. Unless he wants to pick up pocket change by beating fighters such as Ishida. There is no way fighters such Quillin or any top 10 fighter will step into the ring with him right now.

There are rumors that tough 2nd tier fighter Brian Vera is interested in being KO'd for good money.

The way GGG gets to a unified title fight is to keep KOing fighters and sooner or later public demand will be there. I suspect that once Martinez beats Chavez in their rematch, he will give GGG a shot, being the fighter and sportsman he is. If Quillin ever steps up, I will give him top marks for courage.
 
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I'd like to see Golovkin fight Quillin next, then Martinez.

Agreed! I'd also like to see Golovkin fight the American Negro Quillin. Quillin has been given an easy ride to the title, beating French African N'Jikam (a guy who *literally* voluntarily gave up his title to avoid fighting Golovkin). Quite honestly, I think Golovkin would win easily by KO in mid rounds. Quillin is a decent fighter, but Golovkin would really outclass him similar to the Rosado fight.

According to BoxRec; http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=76117&cat=boxer

As well as various other sources, Irish-UK boxer Matthew Macklin, 29-4 (20) will be Golovkin's next opponent, and the fight will be scheduled on HBO.

I am a fan of Macklin, and he's showed a lot of heart in his fights with Martinez and Sturm. He is coming off a 1st round KO of Joachim Alcine which is a good showing. However, I don't expect him to last the distance with Gennady and I think Gennady wins by KO in the fight. Macklin is a decent fighter, and I'm not writing him off. But Golovkin really hits too hard and I don't think the fight will go past 6 or 7 rounds... Maybe Macklin can prove me wrong though! He does have a lot of heart.

In a way its a shame that HBO is consistently matching Golovkin against white (or white looking boxers). That is no doubt done purposefully. They keep sheltering the Negro Quillin but sooner or later he's gonna have to man up and when he does he will be badly outclassed by either Golovkin or Martinez. I'd even say Macklin beats Quillin to be frank.

HBO doesn't want to broadcast Golovkin/Quillin because that would go against their cultural agenda. They typically only use white or Hispanic fighters as "feeders". It is extremely rare for HBO to willfully broadcast a fight between a white and black where the black is expected to lose. They would much rather talented white fighters beat other white fighters (hence the exclusive white matchmaking of Golovkin and Martinez).
 

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Macklin will give a good account of himself if he fights GGG. But I suspect the outcome will be similar to when he fought Sergio Martinez, but only quicker and more brutal. Triple G is no joke and he is the goods. But if they pay Macklin enough a well placed punch with proper leverage can bail out any good fighter, which Macklin is.
 
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Macklin will give a good account of himself if he fights GGG. But I suspect the outcome will be similar to when he fought Sergio Martinez, but only quicker and more brutal. Triple G is no joke and he is the goods. But if they pay Macklin enough a well placed punch with proper leverage can bail out any good fighter, which Macklin is.

Yes, Macklin is a very good fighter, with a lot of heart and good power. His last fight where he KO`d Negro Joachim Alcine in 1 was a great fight from him. I`m certainly not writing him off. He does have a chance at upsetting Golovkin and anything can happen. But its gonna be very hard and unlikely.

In my opinion, Macklin and his management team are not exercising the best course of action and would have been better off to target a title-fight against Peter Quillin, because in that fight, it would have been much more competitive and in fact I`d say I might even like Macklin`s chances to win. That is certainly a much more winnable fight for Macklin.

Unfortunately, the media networks have a lot of leverage in deciding in what boxing matches are made and clearly they preferred Macklin to fight Golovkin. Its similar to the Golovkin-Rosado fight, where HBO turned down Negro Fernando Guerrero as Golovkin`s opponent and insisted he face a white fighter (or white looking) instead.

HBO has Golovkin fighting mainly white fighters and that is done on purpose. They wouldn`t want to show Golovkin-Quillin because Golovkin would be excpeted to KO Quillin and that would go against their policy of showing blacks as athletically superior.
 
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Golovokin is good. Obviously good. But how good is he really?

His defense is only acceptable. In the Ouma fight his face showed the results of his defense. Others will punch him up too. And some will hit him hard.

Can he win with only his boxing skills? Kovalev can. And Kovalev can hit hard while on the move. Can Golovokin hit hard while on the move? I haven't seen much of it. His hard punches seem to come against stationary targets.

He seems to be the type that could be beaten by speed, beaten by reach/skill, and who knows, perhaps he could be beaten by power?

When he shows real domination of the best possible opponents, like Mattyhse has, I would accept him as the best in his weight class. Until then, he seems to be one of the top five.
 

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Macklin will give a good account of himself if he fights GGG. But I suspect the outcome will be similar to when he fought Sergio Martinez, but only quicker and more brutal. Triple G is no joke and he is the goods. But if they pay Macklin enough a well placed punch with proper leverage can bail out any good fighter, which Macklin is.
I believe this is the 2nd time I have called a fight almost to a tee at CF. The the 1st time was when Kesseler KO'd Alan Green.

It appears the sky is the limit for Triple G. Hopefully Cocoa Quillin will grow a pair and fight GGG
 

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Not a lot of buzz around here about Golovokin? I said before he's good, and he'll be the 160 lb unified champion if he wants to. But we'll waiting a couple of years yet for a good 160 lb challenger for him. Martinez (I think) is too worn out now but he would of out-boxed him 4-5 years ago. I doubt any of the 154 pounders -even Canelo- will bother with him.

The 168 lb division is another matter entirely. And this is wear the b.s. starts. Golovokin is only 5'9". The best 168's are 6'+. And they all can reach him, and they will equal his power (except Ward who just boxes).

The only decent fighter I have seen actually try to fight Golovokin is Ouma. And Ouma is a 154 lb man. And Ouma pasted Golovokin's face quite a bit. Macklin didn't come to fight on Saturday. He came to lose. Does anyone think Froch, Ward, Kessler, et al will come to lose? I don't. Do you think if some of the 175 pounders boil down to 168 they will come to lose? I doubt it.

Golovokin's game is mostly power. Unlike Kovalev and Matthyse who can win with boxing and have incredible power. I'm not saying Golovokin is a brawler, but I can't see him out-boxing bigger men with equal or better boxing skills. And that's really why he'll be a 160 champion but not further up. If he's smart though, he'll make good money while he can.
 
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http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9440888/gennady-golovkin-proves-worthy-acclaim

by Dan Rafael


Golovkin is everything most fight fans want -- a smiling, affable people person outside of the ring who is a pure destroyer, with skills, inside it. That reputation will continue to grow after this absolutely sensational performance against Macklin, whom he cut down with one of the great one-punch body-shot knockouts in recent boxing history to retain his world title for the eighth time.

Even in light of those defenses, Macklin was supposed to be Golovkin's stiffest test. Let's be honest: For all of the acclaim Golovkin has received in the past couple of years and for all of the exciting knockouts he had registered, his résumé was pretty thin. Macklin was the first legitimate middleweight contender whom Golovkin would face. Macklin, after all, is a longtime contender who deserved to win a world title in 2011 but was ripped off in Germany on a split decision against house fighter Felix Sturm. In 2012, Macklin dropped Sergio Martinez and was about even with him for most of the fight until Martinez stopped him in the 11th round. Macklin didn't win those bouts, but he gained huge respect and credibility. But Golovkin, who admitted afterwaard that it was one of his easiest fights, just crushed him. Sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug. On this night, with Golovkin overpowering him from the outset, Macklin was the bug.

Golovkin rattled Macklin, who actually looked a bit scared -- a la Frank Bruno against Mike Tyson -- in the first round with right hands. Golovkin opened a bad cut over Macklin's left eye in the second round and then finished him suddenly in the third. Golovkin threw a right uppercut and followed with a pinpoint left hook to the liver that connected flush. Macklin immediately dropped to the canvas in agony and was writhing on the mat as referee Eddie Cotton counted him out at 1 minute, 22 seconds. Macklin was down for a few minutes, giving Golovkin a body-shot knockout that will take its place in the pantheon of similar finishes -- such as Bernard Hopkins' KO of Oscar De La Hoya and Roy Jones' rib-cruncher against Virgil Hill. Even Lou DiBella, Macklin's promoter, who had knocked Golovkin for his competition before the fight, was utterly impressed and said it was possibly the hardest body blow he has seen in some 25 years in boxing.

Golovkin, 31, who is from Kazakhstan and lives in Germany (but trains in the United States and is in the process of securing a green card), raised his knockout percentage to 88.9 percent, the best among active titleholders. The Macklin KO was his 14th in a row; Golovkin has now stopped every one of his opponents since winning an eight-round decision in Denmark in 2008.

Macklin said Golovkin is the best opponent he has ever faced, and after this performance Golovkin, arguably the world's best 160-pounder, is going to have an even harder time finding quality opponents -- even with the strong backing of HBO, which means A-level money for opponents. Golovkin is now 3-0 this year and plans to fight twice more in 2013, perhaps as soon as August. The biggest issue, however, is who will fight him. Whomever takes on the difficult assignment, Golovkin has showed himself to be must-see TV.
 

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Golovkin will not be beaten at 160. He is amazing and will likely be P4P #1 by the end of 2014. I hope and pray Mayweather tries to fight him (if he gets by Canelo).
 

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Macklin was looking mean & crazy during the stare down just before the fight...while Golovkin seemed relaxed. Macklin came to fight...but it took him just about 30 seconds into the 1st Round to realize he was being stalked by a superior fighter. Golovkin is the modern-day Hand's of Stone! The sky is the limit! Wish he and Mayweather where in the same class...he would never have experienced power like that oF GGG!
 
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Macklin was looking mean & crazy during the stare down just before the fight...while Golovkin seemed relaxed. Macklin came to fight...but it took him just about 30 seconds into the 1st Round to realize he was being stalked by a superior fighter. Golovkin is the modern-day Hand's of Stone! The sky is the limit! Wish he and Mayweather where in the same class...he would never have experienced power like that oF GGG!
Golovkin would absolutely clean house on mayweather or broner or really anyone below 160. But none of those guys would even dare to step in the ring with him, and with good reason since he is a much bigger guy. He has a god given gift in punching power. Just my opinion, he's here to stay for a long long time. At some point I'd like to see him destroy the over hyped dirrell.
 

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Golovkin would absolutely clean house on mayweather or broner or really anyone below 160. But none of those guys would even dare to step in the ring with him, and with good reason since he is a much bigger guy. He has a god given gift in punching power. Just my opinion, he's here to stay for a long long time. At some point I'd like to see him destroy the over hyped dirrell.
This, Gayfeather prudently chooses his opponents. He either wants guys who aren't in their primes and raw like Canelo or shot and on the downside like Mosley. Gayfeather knows he would get dusted within 6 rounds.
 

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This, Gayfeather prudently chooses his opponents. He either wants guys who aren't in their primes and raw like Canelo or shot and on the downside like Mosley. Gayfeather knows he would get dusted within 6 rounds.


Correct! Just like old man Popkins, the biggest fraud in boxing. I'd bet my life he wouldn't last 6 rounds with Kovalev. Now he's facing Karo Murat. Let's see what's next.
 
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His name "Golovkin" is a Russian surname and he's a Christian.

He used to attend the same church in Las Vegas as his friend Sam Peter. I noticed he worked Sam's corner for Peter-Wlad II.

He appears to be 3/4 white and about 1/4 Kazakh.

He was born in Karaganda. In the 1930s up to 70% of the city's inhabitants were ethnic Germans, but they were killed or sent to Siberian labor camps by the Bolsheviks.


If you have done any research you would know he is half Korean + half Russian?
 

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If you have done any research you would know he is half Korean + half Russian?
Why quote such an old post of mine, JAB5239? His ancestry wasn't well-known at that time.

Last year there was an article stating that he is half-Korean and half-Russian.

In a recent interview Gennady said his mother is half-Korean & half-Russian, and his father is Russian. So he's 1/4 Asian and 3/4 white.

If you followed boxing more closely instead of spending all your time promoting hatred against European boxers, you would have heard the interview.

What's more important is that he's an exciting and talented boxer who is not afraid to fight in any country (he's had title fights in Panama, Germany, US etc and he says he'll go to the UK to fight Murray), not a runner who never fights away from home like Floyd Mayweather or a boring, feather-fisted headbutting fraud like Andre Ward.
 
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Why quote such an old post of mine, JAB5239? His ancestry wasn't well-known at that time.

Last year there was an article stating that he is half-Korean and half-Russian.

In a recent interview Gennady said his mother is half-Korean & half-Russian, and his father is Russian. So he's 1/4 Asian and 3/4 white.

If you followed boxing more closely instead of spending all your time promoting hatred against European boxers, you would have heard the interview.

What's more important is that he's an exciting and talented boxer who is not afraid to fight in any country (he's had title fights in Panama, Germany, US etc and he says he'll go to the UK to fight Murray), not a runner who never fights away from home like Floyd Mayweather or a boring, feather-fisted headbutting fraud like Andre Ward.


Her mother looked like a full blooded Asian more Asian than even a Kazakh so I don't trust this bull****. Show me this crap that he said he's only 1/4 Asian because I don't buy it.

In front of the president of Kazakhstan: "My father is Russian, my mother is Korean, but I am Kazakh". Anything else?
 
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