French soccer's problems: racism,...

[Vinnie]

I liked the way France has played last wednesday against Brazil... OK, have to say that the expulsion of the brazilian midfielder has been a big help for us to get out with the win.
But France has again shown more in 90 minutes than in a few years under Domenech.
5 wins in a row, I like that...

Big game from Mexès (player of the game), and good games also from Benzema, Rami and Menez.

PS@Lisa : Im from Champagne (closed to "les Vosges" actually), but I was living many years in Nancy.. had a good time there !!
Where are you from in Lorraine exactly? if its not asking too much... O)

 

[Lisa D]

I liked the way France has played last wednesday against Brazil... OK, have to say that the expulsion of the brazilian midfielder has been a big help for us to get out with the win.
But France has again shown more in 90 minutes than in a few years under Domenech.
5 wins in a row, I like that...

I was at the stadium, so I saw this game on live. It's so pleasant to find again a good state of mind thanks to Laurent Blanc...

Big game from Mexès (player of the game), and good games also from Benzema, Rami and Menez.

Mexes was so incredible during this game... What a resurrection since Domenech who never let him a true chance.

PS@Lisa : Im from Champagne (closed to "les Vosges" actually), but I was living many years in Nancy.. had a good time there !!
Where are you from in Lorraine exactly? if its not asking too much... O)

Yeah..

I'm from Nancy too (more exactly from Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy).

 

[Lisa D]

Here is a very recent video from one of the most -if not the most- famous radio broadcast in France about soccer, L'Afterfoot.

It's a personal account of a listener, who explains how, at the age of 12,he was excluded out of his soccer team, rejected, victim of discrimination. He was the only white player andthe others refused to play with him. Because of being the target of insults and physical violence, he was forced to stop doing this sport.

Nothingextraordinary, it's quite common....

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If you need a full translation, I can do it. It is very instructive. It is a concrete illustration of a socialreality depicted on the video on the first page of the topic.

 

[Borussia]

Sadly, I'm not at all surprised.
A big part of the foundation of the entrenched Caste system is from racist and prejudicial blacks and other nonwhite groups. They possess a very strong in-group Solidarity that would make Himmler envious.
Frankly, blacks tend to be the most racist of groups.

So hating and discriminating towards young White athletes is par for the course for them.

France seems to be a true lost cause, England a close 2nd.
The English national team has become way too pro-black the last 5-10 years ago or so.
I remember as late as '96, '98 the only nonwhite was Paul Ince. Now I believe England is approx. 40-50% mulatto or black national squad.
Makes me want to puke.

Luckily, Holland has had somewhat of a White renaissance lately with many talented true Dutch earning places; still too many non-Dutch, but at least it's not Senegal-North like France.

Truly, even casual imbecile fans see "France's" lineup and it's a sickening insult.
I hope Blanc does not cave to the media and social anti-White pressure.

 

[Rebajlo]

It's a personal account of a listener, who explains how, at the age of 12,he was excluded out of his soccer team, rejected, victim of discrimination. He was the only white player andthe others refused to play with him. Because of being the target of insults and physical violence, he was forced to stop doing this sport.

Nothingextraordinary, it's quite common....

This story illustrates the vast gulf between Whites and blacks in their attitudes towards racial competition.

Blacks possess a racial solidarity and confidence which Whites virtually lack as a result of over half a century of leftist brainwashing. Various black groups may hate each other and have no compunction about slaughtering fellow Negroes to near extinction during internecine conflicts, be they in the jungle or the ghetto, yet they all share a transcendent and savage hatred of Whites which always provides them with a unifying common purpose.

Blacks aggressively defend what they perceive as their "territory", be it African land, ghetto "turf", hegemonyover rap "music" or their privileged, practically iconic roles in sport. Once they are ensconced as a crushing majority in any area, they employ every tactic imaginable to retain that majority at all costs. The "system", of course, happily aids them in such textbook egalitarian endeavours.

After over three decades of artificial promotion, during which White players meekly gave way to a trickle of blacks that eventually became an ocean, and White fans meekly accepted that ocean washing over their stadia and television screens, football in France is overwhelmingly black. The initial racial balances have been completely reversed, with Whites now in the flagrant minority - and here is the rub, for there is absolutely no way the blacks shall ever relinquish their dominant position in the pitiful manner that Whites did.

The inherent racial awareness (i.e. racism) of blacks dictates that they never willingly accept Whites into a team, especially as they are more than conscious that the apparatus of the "system" is behind them. Once the pendulum has swung so far, the blacks do their utmost to prevent any backswing. Whites are only beginning to comprehend this glaringly obvious fact now that the damage has been done to a critical degree.

According to the propagandising sophistry of the "system" however, all is now as it should be as the accepted idea is that blacks are superior athletes and are therefore present in such overwhelming numbers as a consequence of their natural ability. That is the evil of the system - once a heavy black majority has been achieved, the initial lofty arguments of "equality" and "balance" are conveniently tossed aside and replaced with a smug axiom of physical supremacy which proclaims that positions are awarded purely on merit. Such an argument, of course, was sheer anathema in the days when the majority of players were White.

The upshot of all of this is that once a black majority is in place, it is exceedingly difficult to dismantle. The numerically-superior, racially-united blacks begin their intimidation of prospective White players from the earliest ages, discouraging them from participating and relentlessly isolating them when they do. I am reminded of a brief episode of a South African league match I saw in a highlights package about fifteen years ago. A White player scored with a spectacular flying header from a cross by a black. The cross was rather mediocre, being way too far ahead of the White, but he did remarkably well to even make contact with the ball, let alone successfully get it on target. The black ran off towards the sidelines and performed the usual crude Negro celebratory animal-impersonation dance and was enthusiastically mobbed by his black teammates as if he had scored the goal. The White goal scorer, however, was pointedly ignored and simply lay alone on the ground where he had landed following his header, looking over at the blacks with an expression at once forlorn and resigned.

The French situation cannot be remedied without the active participation of the fans, who ultimately hold the vital key to reform in their collective wallets. In order for this to occur, the fans must become openly pro-White and stand up for their own people and culture...

 

[frederic38]

I'm wondering, is Blanc, the new coach, putting in more white players on the team? Maybe he could be inspired by the fact that the whitest NFL team, the Green Bay Packers, just won the Super Bowl.

what will follow is very important information

definitively, yes

the french federation understood that they were doing something wrong:
<a href="http://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/une_foot_detail_-Affaire-des-quotas-le-verbatim-de-la-reunion_44096-1783828_actu.Htm" target="_blank">
</a>http://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/une_foot_detail_-Affaire-des-quotas-le-verbatim-de-la-reunion_44096-1783828_actu.Htm

in the first part of the discussion, they talk about the players that have multiple nationality, and they say that france trains young players that later play for other countries (for example, the majority of the algerian national team has been trained in france)

but at one point, it becomes interesting: this is very important, it is first-hand information on what is hapenning in soccer

"Laurent Blanc: On veut pas éliminer les
étrangers, pas du tout, mais faire en sorte que les pôles Espoirs ou les
pôles de la DTN testent sur des critères mieux définis pour pouvoir
attirer d'autres personnes, parce que si on a toujours les mêmes
critères, y aura toujours les mêmes personnes. Et plus ça va, plus ça va
être encore davantage. Parce que je suis sur les terrains tous les
samedis, je vois quelques centres de formation: on a l'impression qu'on
forme vraiment le même prototype de joueurs: grands, costauds,
puissants. Qu'est-ce qu'il y a actuellement comme grands, costauds,
puissants ? Les blacks. Et c'est comme ça. C'est un fait actuel. Dieu
sait que dans les centres de formation, dans les écoles de football, ben
y en a beaucoup. Je crois qu'il faut recentrer, surtout pour des
garçons de 13-14 ans, 12-13 ans, avoir d'autres critères, modifiés avec
notre propre culture. Je vais vous citer les Espagnols: ils n'ont pas
ces problèmes-là. Ils ont des critères de jeu qui sont très précis, à
12-13 ans.Erick Mombaerts: C'est ça le projet.Laurent Blanc:
Avec notre culture, notre histoire, etc. Les Espagnols, ils m'ont dit:
"Nous, on n'a pas de problème. Nous, des blacks, on n'en a pas."Erick Mombaerts: Mais
Laurent, le phénomène que tu évoques, c'est tellement ancré chez nous
que les petits gabarits blancs qui sont dans les pôles Espoirs, les
clubs pro me les laissent sur les bras. Ils ne les prennent pas,
n'importe comment, même si c'est des bons joueurs!Laurent Blanc:
Les clubs ils auront toujours leurs critères de sélection. Ãca tu
pourras pas... Même si en formant des éducateurs, tu vas pouvoir
peut-être à la longue changer un petit peu les choses, ou influencer un
peu. Mais c'est surtout dans les pôles qu'il faut avoir ces critères-là.
Un participant sort de ses gonds et rappelle qu'un bon joueur est
efficace quelle que soit sa couleur de peau, rouge ou blanche, sa
taille, grande ou petite.Laurent Blanc: Oui,
mais en ce moment tu n'as pas le choix puisque tu as toujours le même
stéréotype de joueurs, tu exagères. Je vois les centres de formation, je
les vois de Bordeaux, des cités, et tu as toujours le même stéréotype
de joueurs, je suis désolé ! Tu vas aller au centre de formation de
Bordeaux, tu vas prendre les joueurs, mais des petits bons joueurs, tu
n'en auras pas. Donc il faut inciter."

i will try to translate:Laurent Blanc: We
don't want to eliminate foreign players, not at all, we want to ensure that the poles or
poles Hopes of DTN test on clearly defined criteria in order to attract
others types of players, </span></span>because if we keep the same criteria, there </span>will always be the same type of player. </span></span>And the more it goes, the more it will be like this. </span></span>Because
I am on the stadiums every Saturday, I see some training centers: it looks like we produce the same type of players: </span></span> big, strong, powerful. </span></span></span>Who are big, strong, powerful? </span>The blacks. </span></span></span></span>It's like that.</span></span> </span></span></span>It is a fact today. </span></span></span>God knows that in the training centers, schools football, well there are many.</span></span></span> </span>I believe we must refocus, especially for boys aged 13-14 years, 12-13 years, have other criteria</span></span>, modified with our own culture. </span>I will quote the Spanish: they have no problems there. </span>They play criteria are very specific to 12-13 years.

</span></span>Erick Mombaerts: This is what we have to do.

Laurent</span> Blanc:</span> With</span> our culture,</span> history, etc.</span>.</span> The Spanish</span> said</span>: "We</span> don't have this problem.</span> We don't have blacks.</span></span>"</span></span>

</span></span>Erick Mombaerts: But Laurent, this subject you talk about, it is so true in France that the skinny white boys that are in the "pole espoir" (the place where players are trained),are not chosen by the professional teams. They don't take them, in every case, even if they are good players!Laurent</span> Blanc:</span> The</span> clubs</span> will always have</span> their selection criteria</span>.</span> You can't change that ...</span> Although</span> by training</span> teachers,</span> you will be able</span> to</span> change</span> things</span> a bit</span>, or</span> have a little</span> influence</span>.</span> But it is in</span> the poles</span> that we need</span> to have</span> those criteria</span>.</span> (One participant</span> tells that a</span> good player</span> is effective</span> regardless of</span> skin color,</span> red or white</span>, size,</span> large or small.)

</span></span>Laurent Blanc</span>: Yes,</span> but right now</span> you have</span> no choice</span> since you have</span> always the same</span> stereotype of</span> players,</span> you're exaggerating</span>.</span> I see</span> training centers</span>, for example</span> Bordeaux</span>, or suburbs ,</span> and</span> you always have</span> the same</span> stereotype of</span> players, I'm sorry</span>!</span> If you go</span> to the training center</span> of Bordeaux</span>, you'll</span> draft players, but</span> little</span> good players</span> (=the skinny white type, ndlr), you</span> do</span> not</span> get</span>.</span> Therefore we</span> should push</span>.</span></span>


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so in conclusion: the french coach, but also the whole french football federation, realised that with such a high number of black players, they were losing all the time.

in the future, they will put more "skinny white players" , and they started already, with marvin martin for example

but they will still have "strong black" middlefielders, like alou diarra or abou diaby

(somebody should tell laurent blanc that white boys can be strong too)




Edited by: frederic38

 

[frederic38]

if you follow french soccer, it is important to note the FIRST thing that laurent blanc decided to change:
he changed the two central defenders
before, france had two black central defenders
now, we have no black (an arab and a white defender, mexes an rami)

the reason for that change is simple
listen carefully, because this is some shoking information:

we will have a look at the UEFA champions league, the most important competition

of ALL the teams that won this competition, only five had a black central defender
and none had two central defenders

(a black brazilian in the 60's, basile boli in the champions league won by marseille, wich was fixed, sammy kuffour, rio ferdinand, and yaya touré in 2009, that played because a lot of players were injuried)



Edited by: frederic38

 

[Liverlips]

Perhaps things will change but we shall see. The French side seems to have gotten worse (blacker) since the World Cup.

 

[Europe]

It shows how stupid the coaches are. I guess they wouldn't choose Xavi, Iniesta and Messi because they are small white guys. Blanc admitted they have a caste system in France.

 

[frederic38]

It shows how stupid the coaches are. I guess they wouldn't choose Xavi, Iniesta and Messi because they are small white guys. Blanc admitted they have a caste system in France.

yes, this is why i said it was very important information, because you see how soccer really works
it is the same with all the other countries, they have different aims, but they all select their players with stereotypes
(these stereotypes are sometimes differents, for example in south america the white player is considered to be the most powerfull, and in europe he is stereotyped as the skinny skillfull player)

Edited by: frederic38

 

[waterbed]

I dont understand that they say they train players for other countries....that is true but still enough choose for france to make them mayoirty in the team.

also are france whites so small? whites in holland are bigger then blacks on average( 184 cm on average we are roughly from frisian( biggest people on earth mostly ancestry in north and average 187 cm or so, germanic ,vinking 60% and 40% iberian Roman blood like all the whites are mix of this here) , whites only got slightly higher body fat so that you look less musculair( 8% or 6% bodyfat makes a lot differnce in appereance)

 

[waterbed]

all national teams are around 181 cm or so even Japan but they probably also mean build.When france played holland in 2008 the french were called strong athletic players but they were like same height and lighter body( 4 kilos or so and 1 or 2 cm) also it was only 10 minutes or so when Dirk Kuyt scoared mostly on power the 1.0 by overpowering Malouda( controled his body when they were both holding eachother when controlling him he even maked at the same time a header in the goal)

 

[frederic38]

I dont understand that they say they train players for other countries....that is true but still enough choose for france to make them mayoirty in the team.

yes, it's ridiculous, and the media keeps talking about that, while in the rest of the interview they discuss very important things

also are france whites so small?

originally france had a tall and strong population, like germanic countries, because there was a lot of germanic blood in france
you can still see that in some players, like mathieu bodmer, jeremy mathieu, sebastien puygrenier
these are tall players, but also very strong players

but french white population is now mainly of southern italian descent, spanish or portuguese descent

so when they talk about small white players, they think about the french equivalent for xavi, or iniesta



every time i play soccer i am the most powerfull, blacks usually are leaner, but they have less muscle, and are skinny
jap stam for example has no black equivalent

when i meet people from american countries, they tell me it is unusual to see a tall, muscular, nordic looking guy in france, like me


also, the tallest soccer player is not dutch, but he is from flanders, it's the same
Kristof van Hout



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[waterbed]

The dutch team is not taller then french team or only like 1 cm, the white players maybe 2 to 3 cm taller of holland.The japanese national team is only 2 cm shorter, it looks like all foootball teams are around the same height.the average white player of holland was 81 kg and black player of france 76kg, A white player of 76 kg would never be called big.Also not if he was 77.5 kg(to have same muscle as 76 kg black on average)

 

[frederic38]

The dutch team is not taller then french team or only like 1 cm, the white players maybe 2 to 3 cm taller of holland.The japanese national team is only 2 cm shorter, it looks like all foootball teams are around the same height.the average white player of holland was 81 kg and black player of france 76kg, A white player of 76 kg would never be called big.Also not if he was 77.5 kg(to have same muscle as 76 kg black on average)

in france, the commentators say that abou diaby looks like a rugby player, they talk about his enormous muscular mass ect
a white player with his physique would be called skinny

 

[waterbed]

Interesting abou the french.How many European immigrants have there been in to france 20 century and or 19 century( white immigrants).Do you have any idea.Do majority have non french great grand parent of the white french?
Holland doesn't have a lot of neighbouring countries so iigration should be less.
If I remeber correct 70% of the genes of white dutch are very old( for example from Iberians 40 thousand years ago) and 30% from mostly 17 century immigrants but most being from germany and maked us only sligtlty slavic from the part of germans from prussia east germany but most where from close to holland border.There has been some french Immigrants who maked us popuation grow with like 5% of that 30%.
They were kicked out of france becuase they were Hugenots religion.

we are both very related to norwegians wo are 80% nordic but also a bit to to Iberian spanish who are like 80% iberian the oldest western europeans.europeans are related with the tripes only the % of the certein tribes is differnt, the oppiste white fo a white dutch is a think a greek, or albanian etc.
I would think average french is 25-30% nordic???? or % descendent from tribes that you can call nordic ( germanic/viking ) we like 60% with it over half coming from Frisians who are a bit gigantic( biggest germanics) and talk still other language in the north of holland( frisia) were they are over 50% frisian.

A bit off topic lol.