French soccer's problems: racism,...

[Highlander]

Looks like the German women's team is allowed to be 100% authentic German (White), unlike the German men's team.

 

[blackstar]

Although I don't really follow women's soccer, I'll congratualate Germany's women soccer team on their victory. Nigeria did beat a highly regarded, mostly white U.S. team, even though it was through penalty kicks. I'm pretty certain that women's soccer in Germany is better funded than women's soccer in Nigeria.

 

[Europe]

Although I don't really follow women's soccer, I'll congratualate Germany's women soccer team on their victory. Nigeria did beat a highly regarded, mostly white U.S. team, even though it was through penalty kicks. I'm pretty certain that women's soccer in Germany is better funded than women's soccer in Nigeria.

Why do you need good funding? All you need is a ball. Did Pele have world clas facilities? What about George Best in NI? He played on the street.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Blackstar, if you would read the forum rules you would know that trolls aren't allowed on this site. I'm pretty sure you've been here before under other names though.

Every post you have made thus far has been an excuse for black athletes.

Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[space hillbilly]

Blackstar, if you would read the forum rules you would know that trolls aren't allowed on this site.  I'm pretty sure you've been here before under other names though.  

Every post you have made thus far has been an excuse for black athletes.

I think he's funny!

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Every post you have made thus far has been an excuse for black athletes.

hey wa33, every post he's made thus far has also been refuted. buthe still loves his "Senegal North" national team. er, i mean "France," of course.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

I'm pretty certain that women's soccer in Germany is better funded than women's soccer in Nigeria.

ah. the "it's not their fault" defense rises again!

in the world of the negrophile, there is no limit tohow farthey will go to find an excuse when the "gifted ones" fail to hit the mark.

 

[whiteathlete33]

With a name like blackstar it's pretty obvious what his agenda is. So it's the lack of funding that makes black teams fail?

 

[blackstar]

"Why do you need good funding? All you need is a ball. Did Pele have world clas facilities? What about George Best in NI? He played on the street."Â￾

You need funding to hire or train competent coaches, scouts, physiotherapists, nutritionists, even psychologists and other assistants. You also need proper training and practice facilities to analyze and remedy players' techniques, and to enhance fitness. Soccer training nowadays, compared to forty or fifty years ago, is more complex than just finding players with talent. There's more of a scientific approach utilized now. Finding natural talent is one thing.You then have to nurture and refine that talent -- especially if your opponents are doing so.

I'm glad that you have acknowledged that black Pele was one of the best, if not the best soccer player ever.

"Blackstar, if you would read the forum rules you would know that trolls aren't allowed on this site. I'm pretty sure you've been here before under other names though.Every post you have made thus far has been an excuse for black athletes."Â￾

I haven't been insulting or made any ad hominem attacks. What excuses for blacks have I made? I've just stated facts.I guess you can't handle the truth! Do you feel so inadequate in your ability to refute my statements logically that you have to resort to calling me a troll?

 

[whiteathlete33]

LOL!! Jimmy already refuted all your so called "facts" on soccer. It's obvious you are in love with blacks and your only agenda is to be a troll on this website.

I don't know where your from but here in America it's the blacks that get all the scholarships in football and basketball. Whites have to be walk-ons because they are too privileged to get scholarships while undeserving negroes get full scholarships and mickey mouse courses to challenge there minds. It's been like that for years with no end in sight. All white football teams routinely beat all black teams on the high school level.

 

[Observer]

You need funding to hire or train competent coaches, scouts, physiotherapists, nutritionists, even psychologists and other assistants. You also need proper training and practice facilities to analyze and remedy players' techniques, and to enhance fitness. Soccer training nowadays, compared to forty or fifty years ago,

I don't know where your from but here in America it's the blacks that get all the scholarships in football and basketball. Whites have to be walk-ons because they are too privileged to get scholarships

Except for his provocative opening post, blackstar has been pretty fair thus far, in my opinion.

Now to the topic of racism in French soccer, I have little knowledge. But the points above about funding and how this has changed the face of American sports is very interesting. When sports became high-stakes big business "compared to forty or fifty years ago", this became an opportunity for poor kids to have a hope of striking it rich even against poor odds. This is fine, although in a certain sense it does tends to discriminate in favor of poor kids, because those kids who are not poor often have other career options available that are less risky. But that is a fair discrimination, and is race-neutral. In the USA, scholarships and projects in geographical areas of poverty were ways that addressed this. Good intentions to give the poor a helping hand join with the business hope of finding and developing a prospect to stardom become powerful allies.

But it becomes a racial problem when certain groups are identified on the basis of skin color to be the official class that needs the helping hand. And then over time the stereotypes of "caste sports" develops and perpetuates because the "drunk white fans" only see people of a certain color playing certain sports or in certain positions or in particular events. And the most damaging effect of this is the young boys who identify with athletes as role models, and then grow up to be less than real men. And because these boys -- white boys in the case of America -- are from the predominant cultural group, the whole culture degrades and suffers. If the culture of the minority group that is adopted by the majority is incompatible with the old majority culture, then it becomes disastrous.

In my mind, professional sports are a plague on America, because it tends to subvert the predominant culture. In some ways, it does create a cultural "melting pot", but in such a way that the ingredients are not really blended to enhance the flavor, and the minority spice that is added drowns out the flavor of everything else. In some situations, the combination of ingredients is toxic. I'm not sure that this is the particular poison that will kill America, but it probably isn't helping, either.

EDITED TO ADD: And the attempt by propaganda news sources to put us on a first-name basis with the diseased harlots in Hollywood and such goes back in time a little longer. And there is minnority cultural group promoting that cultural subversion as well.Edited by: Observer

 

[Europe]

"And the most damaging effect of this is the young boys who identify with athletes as role models, and then grow up to be less than real men. And because these boys -- white boys in the case of America -- are from the predominant cultural group,"

It seems like instead of blacks itegrating with whites, the whites are becoming like blacks. I am not even big on integration or multiculturalism,but it seems like white culture is being destroyed by the black culture. I don't want a "melting pot". Look at the term "back in the day". Is that what blacks say? I never heard that terms before and now whites use it all the time.

Playing pro sports will help almost nobody because so few make it. There are only about 1500 NFL players,which is nothing. There are plenty of middle class and rich kids who play in the pros. Look at the Mannings and all the other sons of athletes that are in the pros. Jimmy Claussen is from a wealthy family.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

excellent post, Observer.

i notice that blackstar, like all afflete-loving clownboys, pointedly ignores anything that might upset his precariously balanced apple cart of delusions.

in this case, it is the lame excuse ofNigeria's teams not getting proper funding. you'll note heoffers no proof of thisclaimed "reason" for their failure.he just throws it out there hoping someone will believe his scattershot hypothesis. furthermore, ifitis indeed the case that Nigeria's team doesn't get "proper funding," whose fault is it? the nation has some of the richest natural resources in the entire world, so why can't they make any money?

somehow in blackstar's world view it must be "Whitey's" fault. but how can that be? i mean,Nigeria is an all-black country run by black leaders. how is it possible that they can't take care of their own?

 

[jwhite96]

"I am sure Kakuta has a lot in common with Charles de Gaulle or Georges Pompidou."

You are right. They were all born in France with French citizenship.

The French coaches, like all coaches, want the best players. The best soccer players in France happen to be black.

Look at Italy during the last World Cup. They sent an all-white squad, yet they still couldn't make it past the group stage. Mario Balotelli is one of the best Italian strikers, but he was left out. If he had been included in the World Cup team, you people would have blamed him for the team's failure. You would have probably said that having him on the team disrupted the team chemistry or something.

Also, in the 2006 World Cup final,France actually outplayed Italy. Even when France were reduced to 10 men! If Italy were so superior, why couldn't they eke out a win during the rest of regulation, and in the subsequent two overtime periods with their extra man advantage? Were they playing for the game to go into penalty kicks?

And the French "affletes" did outwit the Spaniards at the Under 19 Championship final. Perhaps the Spaniards took their opponents too lightly. They should have know better, and should have adjusted their tactics to contain a counter-attack by a French team that was the top scoring team in the tournament,that beat the Netherlands 4-1, and routed Austria 5-0.

You are so full of BS. The almost all black french team was as bad as Italy in the 2010 WC. Why didn't any black team advance past the quarter finals? Ghana only reached the quarterfinals because the incredibly corrupt , incompetent referees allow the Black Thugs to practically get away with murder. If the Ghana games were called fairly especially against the USA , Ghana would have ended the game with 8 players. France was better in 2006? Why didn't they win? You sound like a little child . France's U19 team blacks were all born in France. More BS. They are from Africa for the most part. Anyone who knows anything about soccer knows Africa regularly uses overage players especially Ghana where you're not born until you are 12 yo. France had an U19 black team which contained most players who were over age 22.

 

[accesscrimea]

Dont think theres much point getting pissed off at blackstar. Ultimately that is probably one of his goals for being on this site.

Black star - everyone at this site believes that whites are overlooked in some sports and that blacks are given a much bigger than fair share of opportunites. This belief is grounded on a large number of facts/experiences etc.

It is very hard to believe that France, a majority white country,(keeping in mind that blacks players are not inherently better than whites at soccer) can, since the turn of the century, suddenly only produce coal black players (with the odd white here and there), without something fishy going on. If you think that this state of affairs is completly natural then this is your right, but nothing you will say will convince anyone here that whites arent getting a raw deal.

I dont have any personal experience in France, but i do in England.. ive seen it in England... ive heard it in England.. and I know that it is true in England...for a complex array of reasons blacks are regularly being preffered to whites even when their soccer skill levels are inferior.

and thats what this site is about!

If you want to banter about how this black team achieved this, or that black player achived that, then go ahead, perhaps it can stay light hearted and easy going, and be a worthwhile debate. It could, however, just descend to the typical arguments and exchange of insults, you being banned, and everyone wasting here their time.

 

[Liverlips]

So Blackstar proves himself to be a racist:

"The French coaches, like all coaches, want the best players. The best soccer players in France happen to be black."

This has been disproved again and again yet Blackstar insists on believing in racist fantasies.

White Frenchmen are obviously discriminated against in favor of less talented blacks. Funny thing is, if France picked a team based on talent they would win and still have 1-2 blacks starting. Of course, blacks in France would never support such a team so France is left with a substandard team on the level of Ghana or Nigeria.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Dont think theres much point getting pissed off at blackstar. Ultimately that is probably one of his goals for being on this site.



Black star - everyone at this site believes that whites are overlooked in some sports and that blacks are given a much bigger than fair share of opportunites. This belief is grounded on a large number of facts/experiences etc.



It is very hard to believe that France, a majority white country,(keeping in mind that blacks players are not inherently better than whites at soccer) can, since the turn of the century, suddenly only produce coal black players (with the odd white here and there), without something fishy going on. If you think that this state of affairs is completly natural then this is your right, but nothing you will say will convince anyone here that whites arent getting a raw deal.



I dont have any personal experience in France, but i do in England.. ive seen it in England... ive heard it in England.. and I know that it is true in England...for a complex array of reasons blacks are regularly being preffered to whites even when their soccer skill levels are inferior.



and thats what this site is about!



If you want to banter about how this black team achieved this, or that black player achived that, then go ahead, perhaps it can stay light hearted and easy going, and be a worthwhile debate. It could, however, just descend to the typical arguments and exchange of insults, you being banned, and everyone wasting here their time.

Apparently not everyone on this site believes whites are overlooked in sports.

We should just stop feeding these trolls because this is exactly what they want. We have made an impression on many people since we have several new trolls coming on this site every week.

He tries to explain that a country like England with a black population of only several percent should be starting a mostly black squad.

 

[Europe]

"You are right. They were all born in France with French citizenship. "

That's the only thing they have in common.Kakuta is French like I am Chinese. And why do Africans move to France? There are all these ingrates in Europe who are immigrants who are supported by the native people,but the leaders have to tell the natives not to be "racists" and accept the take over of your country.I would like to know the percent of immigrants in France on the welfare.

 

[blackstar]

"That's the only thing they have in common.Kakuta is French like I am Chinese. And why do Africans move to France?"

According to French law, if you are born on French territory you are granted French citizenship once you meet certain criteria. If you have a problem with that take it up with the French government.

The human race originated in Africa. White Europeans are essentially mutant Africans. The recent immigrants are just the latest wave of African migrants to Europe.

 

[Borussia]

"That's the only thing they have in common.Kakuta is French like I am Chinese. And why do Africans move to France?"

According to French law, if you are born on French territory you are granted French citizenship once you meet certain criteria. If you have a problem with that take it up with the French government.

The human race originated in Africa. White Europeans are essentially mutant Africans. The recent immigrants are just the latest wave of African migrants to Europe.

LOL!
Yes, we are all equal. Race doesn't exist. We are all Africans. There should be no borders, etc.

Yawn....

We could write books destroying your humanistic, egalitarian, we are all one human family (read Anti-White) agenda...
If we are all equal and there is no race, why are black immigrants better soccer players in France?

If you're gonna troll, at least have something original or entertaining.
Your stuff is weak here blackstar. Weak.
Weak like african athletes.

 

[Observer]

According to French law, if you are born on French territory you are granted French citizenship once you meet certain criteria. If you have a problem with that take it up with the French government.

This is true, one cannot really expect these issues to be resolved at the level of coach or club. There are national policies in place that make it difficult to avoid the ethnic conflict.

 

[Deadlift]

blackstar,


I don't think you want to be calling Whites "mutants" on a pro-White forum.

 

[accesscrimea]

"That's the only thing they have in common.Kakuta is French like I am Chinese. And why do Africans move to France?"

According to French law, if you are born on French territory you are granted French citizenship once you meet certain criteria. If you have a problem with that take it up with the French government.

The human race originated in Africa. White Europeans are essentially mutant Africans. The recent immigrants are just the latest wave of African migrants to Europe.

Obviously the black guys been French or not is just a matter of semantics. Yes, according to their citizenship they are French of course, but obviously they are not French in terms of French history - the people who created France, and who have lived in and developed France over a period of hundrends of years; namely the Gauls, the Germanic franks and the Normans (from the word Northmen).

As long as there is economic disparity between nations, people from poorer countries will always try to move to richer countries, so west Europe is sure to see an influx of immigration for some time soon. The immigrants should do everything they can to integrate into the culture, but for a variety of reasons this often does not happen (the immigrant's belief system, government policy encouraging 'muticulturism' etc). As part of this they should understand how some sections of the populace might get pissed off when the composition of their national teams suddenly transforms into something that does not represent their ethinic history and culture.

The 'mutant Africans' term is provocative, and a similarly provocative reply would be 'mutated and evolved' (not that i subscribe to it - I don't take part in the which race is superior debate).

 

[Liverlips]

"The human race originated in Africa. White Europeans are essentially mutant Africans. The recent immigrants are just the latest wave of African migrants to Europe."

Actually, the earliest human remains have been found in China. But there was certainly a break between blacks and non-blacks around 25,000 - 40,000 years ago and between Asians and Caucasians somewhat later.

Regardless, non-blacks are not "mutant Africans." We developed into distinct races with differences in physical traits (skin color, head shape, hair texture ...etc) as well as mental traits (intelligence, morality, temperament, foresight ...etc).

I've always thought that black African nations should accept some soccer players from their former colonial masters. Then perhaps they wouldn't be such pathetic losers.

 

[C Darwin]

The human race originated in Africa. White Europeans are essentially mutant Africans. The recent immigrants are just the latest wave of African migrants to Europe.

yes, whites are mutants. every organism is. but it certainly worked out for us whites, wouldn't you say? i'm not worried about the usa going up in a pile of jungle smoke. whites will recover and build anew. it's what we do.

anyone who is either for ,or neutral about racial integration is as dumb as a post. the data is in. it's a horrible situation for all involved. Edited by: C Darwin