Fastest White Man (Charlie's Space)

[StarWars]

Patriot09,

Have you visited Charlie180's site, Charlie's Space? His articles are almost always incorrect in their statistics, and quixotic in their conclusions. Here is a from his article Fastest White Man:

"This makes me wonder all the more about Woronin, he only ever ran that fast once, he never ran under 10.20s again, rarely under 10.30s, yet in nearly 25 years, only one man has really even come close."

False. Every single one of Marian Woronin's top ten races are under 10.2 seconds. Although he was never the Championship performer or all-around sprinter that Allan Wells was, Woronin is one of the fastest white men in history for a reason. He could fly. Not to mention his 50m of 5.65 is the 26th fastest 50 meter dash ever run. So next time Charlie tries to say that Woronin's 9.992, or 10.00(2.0), was dubious, ignore him. Here is the link confirming his top ten races ever, averaging 10.14. VERY fast.

http://run-down.com/statistics/mens_100m_top10.php

I could go on and on. He even praises Japenese runners, saying they are very fast, yet they have not come close to any times by a white man in the 50 or 60 meter, and do not possess any individual medals except one for the 200m with a bronze. Not to mention Charlie's lack of foresight that we here at CF possess. He stated that he would be happy if any white went under 10.10 this year, because that was more than he could ask for. Simone Collio (10.06), Christophe Lemaitre (10.04), and Ramil Guliyev (10.08) must have answered his call.

Worst of all he is a Brit that does not appreciate how good Allen Wells was. A gold medal in the 1980 Moscow Olympics in a time of 10.25 seconds on one of the coldest Olympic nights in history (it was Moscow). Before he had slowed up to a 10.11 (he said it could have been 10.08 had he not slowed down). At the time that was one of the fastest non-altitude runs in history. He also got silver in 200 meter in 20.21 seconds, another British record. The last clean one, and the last great clean sprinter. Sadly, even Mennea had taken HGH. It was the beginning of a new age. Wells had chased down Ben Johnson later in 1982, but thus marked the beginning of a new era. We all know how much steroids helped the JAMAICAN Ben Johnson. Much like Linford Christie, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin....Well, the video speaks for itself. As you can see, Wells runs down a 9.98 speed Silvio Leonard, and beats a 10.13 Peter Petrov. Here is a quote from his biography:

"He then demonstrated his calibre by finishing first in the "IAAF Golden sprints" in Berlin (the most prestigious sprint event on the athletics calendar); although defeated by the Frenchman Hermann Panzo in the 100, he dominated the top four American sprinters in the 100/200, 10.15/20.15 (200 wind assist) Wells winning in an aggregate 30.30."

http://www.answers.com/topic/allan-wells

 

[charlie180]

Do you think Pickering would benefit by cutting down on his indoor schedule? He seems like a good, hard-working kid, but I think he may have plateau'd as well.

I don't think he did himself any favours with his indoor season, he didn't run as well has he thought he should and things seems to have gone downhill from there. As he's said himself he tends to beat himself up over poor performances and perhaps tries too hard.

I think it is tough for Craig mentally, the people that he was beating as juniors, like Williamson and Aryeetey, are now running faster than him and regularly beating him. Can't be easy for him going from our No.1 hot prospect, to No.7 (and everyone above him bar Chambers and Devonish are of his age group.)

 

[StarWars]

Craig reduced his bodyfat % from 14% to 8% (what mine is and I think it's unhealthy) from the time he ran 10.22 as a junior to his 10.22 this season. His top speed has increased but he now lacks power in his drive phase. I think a season focusing on his drive phase, much like 2008 but without injuries, would help him. Also, he should get his bf % to around 10%.Edited by: StarWars

 

[charlie180]

Great post Patriot09.

Patriot09,

Have you visited Charlie180's site, Charlie's Space? His articles are almost always incorrect in their statistics, and quixotic in their conclusions. Here is a from his article Fastest White Man:

"This makes me wonder all the more about Woronin, he only ever ran that fast once, he never ran under 10.20s again, rarely under 10.30s, yet in nearly 25 years, only one man has really even come close."

False. Every single one of Marian Woronin's top ten races are under 10.2 seconds.

The reason that I wrote the original article, White Men Can't Run, was because there was very little information about Woronin around, and worse few people outside of sprint fans, even knew who he was. I had lost count of the amount of times that I heard people say that the fastest ever white man was Allan Wells.

The times that I got for Woronin when I wrote that were his best times in top international events, in which he usually ran poorly, but they were the only ones I could find. Such as him running 10.46s in an Olympic final, his best time being 10.27s in the heats.

Unlike Wells, Woronin rarely produced on the big occasion, which is probably why few have heard of him.

http://run-down.com/statistics/mens_100m_top10.php

Nice link. It also shows that Swampfox was wrong about Hines, he also ran 10.03, 10.08, 10.11, 10.14. And that Calvin Smith ran 9.93, 9.97, 9.97, 9.99, 10.04, 10.04, 10.05, 10.05, 10.06, 10.07. It also shows a nice average - Smith's was 10.02s, Woronin's was 10.14s. Even Hines went under 10.1s three times, Woronin (16 years later) just the once (if genuine).

I could go on and on. He even praises Japenese runners, saying they are very fast, yet they have not come close to any times by a white man in the 50 or 60 meter,

But I was, and still am talking about 100m. Kojj Ito ran 10.00s, and Nobuharu Asahara has run 10.02s, which discounting dodgy Woronin, are both faster than any white man has ever run. Asahara's is important as it gets pretty cold in Oslo (further north than Moscow). Shingo Suetsugu has also run 10.03s, Masashi Eriguchi 10.07s, and Naoki Tsukahara 10.09s this year. I think I am right in saying that Japan has had more non Black athletes run under 10.1s in the past decade than any other nation.

...and do not possess any individual medals except one for the 200m with a bronze.

Medals mean sh*t, on their own, especially when talking about the 10s barrier. Lemaitre's PB wouldn't have even gotten him last place in last years Olympics, in Moscow he'd have won gold. Times have changed but you're still talking about athletes from 25 years ago.

Wells won Olympic gold but it will always be tarnished by the fact that the USA wasn't there. Kenteris, a favourite here, was lucky. He won gold in 2000 with a time of 20.19s. Only slightly faster than Wells' 20 years earlier and it'd only get him sixth on the British all time list. His run was the slowest 200m final since......1980.

Kenteris only won because Johnson didn't race, his time would have got him a Bronze in 92 and 84 and no other medals between 1980 and 2008

The Japanese are progressing, white athletes are only getting near long past glories, that was my point.

Not to mention Charlie's lack of foresight that we here at CF possess. He stated that he would be happy if any white went under 10.10 this year, because that was more than he could ask for. Simone Collio (10.06), Christophe Lemaitre (10.04), and Ramil Guliyev (10.08) must have answered his call.

They did, and while that is great news I am not going to kid myself that the 10s barrier is next.

Worst of all he is a Brit that does not appreciate how good Allen Wells was. A gold medal in the 1980 Moscow Olympics in a time of 10.25 seconds on one of the coldest Olympic nights in history (it was Moscow).

I do appreciate Wells, but you have to remember that Wells was followed by Linford Christie, who won Olympic Gold (with the Americans there), World Gold, regularly beat the best in the world and came within 0.01s of the WR. He eclipsed Wells. Sure he was a drug cheat, but that only became apparent years later.

The last clean one,

You assume that. No white Britain has got near Wells' 100m or 200m times. Much like few Italians have gotten near Mennea's times.

Sadly Wells is pretty much forgotten in Britain, largely because to be remembered you have to win and win big. He never got near the World Record. Cheat or not, when people in Britain think about a sprinter, it is invariably Linford Christie.

 

[StarWars]

...and do not possess any individual medals except one for the 200m with a bronze.

Medals mean sh*t, on their own, especially when talking about the 10s barrier. Lemaitre's PB wouldn't have even gotten him last place in last years Olympics, in Moscow he'd have won gold. Times have changed but you're still talking about athletes from 25 years ago.

Again, you are sounding foolish. Personally, as an athlete myself, I can say that a medal and a spot on the podium, and even the aspects of competition and bragging rights, are more important than any time on a clock. This is why any serious sprinter will slow down in the semis, even if the semi time would be faster, to save some for the finals.

Wells won Olympic gold but it will always be tarnished by the fact that the USA wasn't there. Kenteris, a favourite here, was lucky. He won gold in 2000 with a time of 20.19s. Only slightly faster than Wells' 20 years earlier and it'd only get him sixth on the British all time list. His run was the slowest 200m final since......1980.

This paragraph is so riddled with fallacies that I am beginning to question your sanity. First off, Kenteris is NOT a favorite here. I hate drug cheats. He is the ultimate symbol of shoving other people's medicine right down their throats. And by medicine, I mean PEDs. For that I will use his name. Secondly, Kenteris won the final in 20.09, while slowing down with his arms raised in the last 10 meters, and not 20.19. He beat your very own Darren Campbell and also Ato Bolton, Maurice Greene's training partner. As you should know, Kenteris is a 19.85 sprinter again while slowing down in the European Campionships.

Also, you are aware that Allen Wells beat every American in the Golden Sprints in a time of 10.15 sec, right? He beat ALL 4 of them. His 10.25 in Moscow and 10.11 are both possible sub 10s in warmer weather. The non altitude WR at the time was barely faster than Wells. 10.03 Jim Hines to Allan Wells 10.11 is only .08 off.

Edited by: StarWars

 

[swampfox]

Where did Patriot 09's post go? I wanted to respond.According to the IAAF all-time stats page he gave an Incomplete list of one-time sub 10's.He left off Jim Hines,Silvio Leonard,Vincent Henderson.I also couldn't find Mark Lewis-Francis' 2nd sub-10,nor Wallace Spearmons'.As far as proving me wrong, I was in error about Calvin Smith never dipping below 10 again, I had completely forgot about Zurich in '83, my mistake, but the '88 marks I was sure had been stipped from he and Lewis and maybe one other because of the masking agant incident @ Seoul.They would be allowed to keep their medals;Johnson would be stripped of his Medals and times for failed drug tests.For this I apologize.Further more you took me to task pretty hard over my off-hand comment that half the sub-10 100m dash club were one-timers.You then gave me a list of 17 names and said that the figure would be more like 1/4.Since we are being so precise,You were wrong too,no offence. According to the IAAF all-time stats page the number is more like 22, so about a third--if I'm allowed to use the word "about".
A big issue for me was that you gave a list of elite white sprinter's pb's and then their 2nd best times to demonstrate how much of an anomaly their pb's were.Amongst these list's of pb's and 2nd best were differences 0.07 and 0.09 seconds then in your incomplete list of 17 names you proceeded to give the 6 had differences as great or greater than 0.07 seconds another 3 more if memory serves correctly(I wish I had your post in front of me!) had a difference of .06 seconds. Add in the 5 you left off your one-timer list(3 of which I believe have atleast a differnce of 6 or 7/100 of a second thats about half(can I say "about"?) the one-timers being an anomaly by your definition.
Charlie180 by your own list Hines 2nd best was 10.03 that's a difference of .08 my friend. Less of a difference than Borzov's 2nd best from his pb of .07, which according to your comrade is a statistical anamoly or outlier that means according to those standards Jim Hines record is a freak,so was Leonards pb; and half of the pb's of all the one timers to break 10 seconds. No my friend your wrong with that statement. I'm man enough to admit my errors,how about you with your errors.
I despise this minutiae. My whole point was about historical perspective and proof of equality.Maybe I delved too much in a philosophical mode. My point was 25 years ago there were white men well within the range of the world records in the 100m and that a chasm has been created in a just a generation. My point was, what happened? I still don't really know what your points are. That caucasians are inferior? That they'll never be world class sprinters? They'll never hold world records? Well, history has already proven you wrong on the previous two points.Caucasians have already done that in a completely integrated forum. History proves it. Is your point that white's will never break 10 seconds. Well the current world record's 9.69 in the 100m. We've already shown we can be well within 3/10 of a second within the world record. History proves it. It hasn't happened yet and I don't know why,I have theories and a lot of them revolve around the societal attitudes and personal inferiority complexes.Is that your point? That whites are inferior? I don't know, how someone wakes up in the morning takes a look at the first person of a different look than him and feel inferior to him at something. Someone ask me not to take offence. How could I be offended if someone looks at himself as beneath someone else without knowing anything about him? I'm don't feel offended just pity.
After all that I am just human and apt to be wrong, just like you. If you want the super-humans find a board where the participants have more melanin.

 

[Observer]

Lots of good info, swampfox. Thanks.

 

[white lightning]

Patriot09 has had his account suspended. Not going to go into the reasons but we don't need people to come here and talk down to everyone here. It's clear that he is against white sprinters and doesn't think it is physically possible for them to compete. There will always be Wariner types to disprove the myth. Yes it is a myth that whites cannot compete.

People said for 40 years that there would never be another white heavyweight champion. All four are white. We dominate boxing from the middleweights and up.

We have been told that we cannot jump. Yet we dominate the high jump in college and at the olympic level. We also have 15-25 year old white kids all over the US/World that do the same dunks that Kobe, Lebron, and Vince Carter do. They also do dunks I've never seen anyone do. The movie & saying should be "White Men Can Jump".

We also can run despite what the people say. Our day is coming to shut some of these stupid, ignorant, anti white racists up. They will bitch, cry and complain but they still cannot stop it from happening. Their egos are so fragile that they don't want people to ever belive that they are not supermen! What a joke. Just like in Baseball, we know the cheaters are winning. They will be caught eventually. Clean up the sport and you will see things change drastically.

We will break down this damn Caste Sytem in all of sports one brick at a time. No white running backs! What a joke. They must think we are all a bunch of fools.

I can't wait for Berlin. We need to remember to cheer on all of our guys. Lemaitre may be front and center, but Guliyev, Wariner and many others all need our support. I'm hoping for big things in the long jump as well. It will be exciting.

 

[charlie180]

Again, you are sounding foolish. Personally, as an athlete myself, I can say that a medal and a spot on the podium, and even the aspects of competition and bragging rights, are more important than any time on a clock. This is why any serious sprinter will slow down in the semis, even if the semi time would be faster, to save some for the finals.

I don't mean for the athlete, I mean in being remembered for their achievements by the fans. As I said, Allan Wells won gold, but few remember, compared to Christie's gold.

This paragraph is so riddled with fallacies that I am beginning to question your sanity.

Memory surely? I don't have all these numbers written down, I am writing from memory. Quite right though, it was 20.09s, but still the slowest 200m since 1980 regardless of whether he was slowing down, so was Bolt (and everyone remembers that).

Kenteris is mentioned almost as much as Lemaitre on this forum, normally in every thread and invariably used as an example of what a white runner can achieve.

It doesn't matter what his PB was, both his golds were instantly forgettable (even I forgot his time!) as there was no real competition. Boldon was recovering from injury, Campbell's best was 20.13s, there was no Greene and there was no Michael Johnson. Kind of like a boxer winning a vacant title against a nobody.

Also, you are aware that Allen Wells beat every American in the Golden Sprints in a time of 10.15 sec, right? He beat ALL 4 of them. His 10.25 in Moscow and 10.11 are both possible sub 10s in warmer weather. The non altitude WR at the time was barely faster than Wells. 10.03 Jim Hines to Allan Wells 10.11 is only .08 off.

Yes, I am fairly sure that Wells would have beaten them had they been there, but it doesn't matter, this is from the BBC on Wells:

"Detractors point out that the 1980 Olympic Games were tarnished due to the non-participation of strong countries like the USA and West Germany."

And this was from Wells himself.

"As I was signing the slip of paper, a chap walked past about 20 yards away and shouted over. 'What did he say?' asked the young lady. 'He was informing me I only won because the Americans weren't there. And do you know what? He doesn't know he's done me the biggest favour possible; he's just reminded me I've still got something to do. That Moscow isn't the end, it's the beginning'."

That was right after Moscow and in Britain. I remember a similar thing with Linford Christie not being considered as a true champion as Carl Lewis wasn't in Barcelona (because he didn't make the team) and having to beat Lewis several times before getting true recognition.

It was summer in Moscow, and no different in terms of temperature than summer in Britain, and probably warmer than in Scotland. Edited by: charlie180

 

[charlie180]

Charlie180 by your own list Hines 2nd best was 10.03 that's a difference of .08 my friend. Less of a difference than Borzov's 2nd best from his pb of .07, which according to your comrade is a statistical anamoly or outlier that means according to those standards Jim Hines record is a freak,

Yes but you have to remember that Hines' 9.95s was at altitude. Borzov's wasn't.

Mark Lewis-Francis ran 9.97s twice, but both were windy, his actual PB is 10.04s which he ran the same year. Edited by: charlie180

 

[mastermulti]

here's another youtube I stumbled on. It shows the 25 yo Wells (just into his late-starting career) as the force he would be for several years. He certainly was a powerhouse

1978 200mEdited by: mastermulti

 

[Deadlift]

Charlie180,


Is there anything (that's physical) that White men are good at?

What are you good at?

 

[charlie180]

here's another youtube I stumbled on. It shows the 25 yo Wells (just into his late-starting career) as the force he would be for several years. He certainly was a powerhouse

1978 200m

Powerhouse is right, he got bigger. There were lots of rumours at the time about him taking stuff too.

Which he denies, and continues to today. That said everytime there is a drug scandal Well's comes out criticising things left, right and centre, saying that he'd stop working with the BOA if they allowed Chambers to run, and reminding everyone that he was clean. Very much like Carl Lewis, another lady that doth protest too much.

Then again I guess there are always rumours about sprinters and they are always under suspicion, especially those that win.

 

[charlie180]

Charlie180,


Is there anything (that's physical) that White men are good at?

What are you good at?

I'd say that whites are good at more things than they are bad at. Indeed there are some events at which whites dominate. Snooker, darts, chess, tennis, golf (excepting Tiger Woods), motor sport, swimming. I could be wrong but I don't think that I have ever seen a black tri-athlete. Nor a black World Strongest Man. Not to mention field events, shot put, javelin, hammer. Football (Pele was good, but he said the best player in the world when he was playing was George Best, and I agree) and most of the best players have been white. Kenteris demonstrated that with the right drugs it is possible for a half decent white sprinter to be competitive in the 200m. Also the 400m, 800m, 1500m, the mile, etc.

Indeed there is really only one event in which whites not only do not dominate, but also can't compete on an equal footing, the 100m, and sadly, that's the most prestigious. Edited by: charlie180

 

[StarWars]

We're probably best at field events too, like high jump and shot put. The 100 may be our weak point, but we still have guys who can run under 10.

 

[jaxvid]

Powerhouse is right, he got bigger. There were lots of rumours at the time about him taking stuff too.

Which he denies, and continues to today. That said everytime there is a drug scandal Well's comes out criticising things left, right and centre, saying that he'd stop working with the BOA if they allowed Chambers to run, and reminding everyone that he was clean. Very much like Carl Lewis, another lady that doth protest too much.

Then again I guess there are always rumours about sprinters and they are always under suspicion, especially those that win.

You shouldn't lump Wells in with Lewis, but it's clear what you are trying to do, disparage the achievements of a white man by associating him with a black cheat.

from WIKIPEDIA:
In 2003, Dr. Wade Exum, the United States Olympic Committee's director of drug control administration from 1991 to 2000, gave copies of documents to Sports Illustrated which revealed that some 100 American athletes who failed drug tests and should have been prevented from competing in the Olympics were nevertheless cleared to compete. Among those athletes was Carl Lewis.

 

[jaxvid]

Charlie180,

Is there anything (that's physical) that White men are good at?

What are you good at?

I'd say that whites are good at more things than they are bad at. Indeed there are some events at which whites dominate. Snooker, darts, chess, tennis, golf (excepting Tiger Woods), motor sport, swimming. I could be wrong but I don't think that I have ever seen a black tri-athlete. Nor a black World Strongest Man. Not to mention field events, shot put, javelin, hammer. Football (Pele was good, but he said the best player in the world when he was playing was George Best, and I agree) and most of the best players have been white. Kenteris demonstrated that with the right drugs it is possible for a half decent white sprinter to be competitive in the 200m. Also the 400m, 800m, 1500m, the mile, etc.

Indeed there is really only one event in which whites not only do not dominate, but also can't compete on an equal footing, the 100m, and sadly, that's the most prestigious.

Your condescending attitude is typical. It's clear what you are trying to do with this post and others. "Darts" and "snooker" sure we get the subtle jab, whites are "good" at non-athletic events like chess and golf.

Kentaris, a "half decent" white sprinter, sure, won a gold medal but he's just half decent, by that logic a white sprinter who is "fully" decent who takes PEDs then should be able to break records, like the black sprinters who take PEDs.

Also you lumped in all race distances as if whites were not competitive in any of them (400m? Wariner?).

Then you focus on the 100m sprint as if it is the only race anyone cares about, no that's the only race you care about. It's the ideal race for west african blacks, short enough to avoid their lack of lung capacity, long enough to use the advantage of their leg structure.

You should switch your posture to supporting and cheering white athletes. Hundreds of generations of your ancestors fought and lived and died to create a world in which you could live, they handed down their heritage to you with the expectation that you would guard their genetic and social heritage as they had guarded theirs, they gave you their society, their history, and their lives. This is how you repay them? the celebration of "others" whose clear goal is to wipe the legacy of you and yours from this planet. Sad.

 

[charlie180]

We're probably best at field events too, like high jump and shot put. The 100 may be our weak point, but we still have guys who can run under 10.

Most of the events at the Olympics are white dominated. Also forget to mention rowing, cycling, probably lots more.

You shouldn't lump Wells in with Lewis, but it's clear what you are trying to do, disparage the achievements of a white man by associating him with a black cheat.

Not really. No matter that Lewis cheated, he is still widely regarded as one of the best athletes of all time. In my opinion if you get caught cheating, even years later, all records, times and medals should be taken back. But officially, Lewis is not a cheat:

"But Lewis, who himself failed three drugs tests in 1988 only to be cleared of any intentional wrongdoing, believes it necessary to remain cautious about Bolt's incredible performances. "

That from a BBC article, in the eyes of most of the world, Lewis is still squeaky clean. My point about Wells is that it is wrong to assume that he was clean merely because he wasn't caught (neither was Lewis, technically), we wouldn't know about Mennea if he hadn't admitted it. Wells also often remarks that there should be a test for HGH.

The more he complains and goes on about how clean he was, the less inclined I am to believe him. David Jenkins, a Scottish team mate of Allan Wells and who won Gold with him in the 4x100m relay in 1978 was also never caught. But has since admitted taking steroids. Jenkins has also served time in the US for selling steroids.

These days I just assume everyone is on something, that way I am always mostly right.

 

[charlie180]

Your condescending attitude is typical. It's clear what you are trying to do with this post and others. "Darts" and "snooker" sure we get the subtle jab, whites are "good" at non-athletic events like chess and golf.

Not what I meant at all. Darts, snooker and archery and golf require similar skills, notably hand eye co-ordination. I could also include squash and tennis in that, both athletic sports.

It always annoys me when people say that darts isn't a sport, they should try holding their body in a specific posture and then throw a 22g piece of metal 8ft into a half inch high, 1.5 inch wide gap.

Kentaris, a "half decent" white sprinter, sure, won a gold medal but he's just half decent, by that logic a white sprinter who is "fully" decent who takes PEDs then should be able to break records, like the black sprinters who take PEDs.

In the 200m certainly. By half decent I meant that there are, and have been better European sprinters. Ramil Guliyev for example I'd say was a better, more rounded sprinter than Kenteris, who was only good at the 200m, compared to Bolt (and Guliyev) at the 100m and 200m and Johnson at the 200m and 400m. Put Guliyev on PEDs and I am sure he'd easily break 19.85s.

As for the 400m, I was saying that whites are competitive in those events, for example Wariner has the 3rd fastest time of all time, Seb Coe has the 2nd fastest 800m and 1000m times, Steve Cram is in the top 15 of 1500 times, and has the 4th fastest mile time of all time.

Then you focus on the 100m sprint as if it is the only race anyone cares about, no that's the only race you care about. It's the ideal race for west african blacks, short enough to avoid their lack of lung capacity, long enough to use the advantage of their leg structure.

It is the big money race and the one that most people care about (it's the most watched event at the Olympics and every other major championship). I agree that it is the white bogey race, just slightly too long and too short.

Hundreds of generations of your ancestors fought and lived and died to create a world in which you could live, they handed down their heritage to you with the expectation that you would guard their genetic and social heritage as they had guarded theirs, they gave you their society, their history, and their lives. This is how you repay them? the celebration of "others" whose clear goal is to wipe the legacy of you and yours from this planet. Sad.

I think you misunderstand. I know who my ancestors fought, and where they died. And none of them, from those that fought against the Japanese and against Hitler, to those that fought Napolean ever thought that there was anything wrong in knowing your limitations and respecting what your enemy was good at. Some would say that was the smart thing to do. But black people are not my enemies, it is just sport, and one of the few areas where they do well.

Anyone, white or black, whose goal is to wipe out my culture, my heritage, my traditions and that of my ancestors, is indeed my enemy. But we're talking about the 100m, not some nefarious plot to subvert my culture.

 

[StarWars]

The 100m is the strongpoint of blacks, and the weakpoint of whites. Even so, we can and will win medals.

 

[Alpha Male]

Yes, but sport is an extension of a culture, of a people. If you discourage the sporting effort of a people, you discourage physical exercise, and by doing so, reduce their overall health and confidence. Like I said before, no black man is posting of the limitations of his kind in weightlifting or powerlifting just because blacks have not had the same success as whites have in those sports.

 

[StarWars]

Yes, but sport is an extension of a culture, of a people.  If you discourage the sporting effort of a people, you discourage physical exercise, and by doing so, reduce their overall health and confidence.  Like I said before, no black man is posting of the limitations of his kind in weightlifting or powerlifting  just because blacks have not had the same success as whites have in those sports.  

So true. You never see them talking about how small their penises are, in fact, it is the opposite. They are just wienery idiots.

 

[Deadlift]

Yes, but sport is an extension of a culture, of a people.  If you discourage the sporting effort of a people, you discourage physical exercise, and by doing so, reduce their overall health and confidence.  Like I said before, no black man is posting of the limitations of his kind in weightlifting or powerlifting  just because blacks have not had the same success as whites have in those sports.  

So true. You never see them talking about how small their penises are, in fact, it is the opposite. They are just wienery idiots.

Jewish Supremacists' push the myth that White men have small penises.

We are probably in the Golden Age of White man/non-black Latina female relations right now. And I'm not talking about short and fat and ugly Latina women! I'm talking about Latina women that are 5 feet 7 or more and usually have a degree of Spanish or Italian or Irish or German or Portuguese blood.

Why is this the case when the media always pushes black male/mestiza female relations in music videos and movies?

In real life, I see considerably more Latinas with White men (usually the best-looking ones) than I see with blacks. There are a ton more Asian women with White men than with blacks. There are more Amero Indian women with White men than with blacks.


Some might object to this post of mine on a pro-White board, but this is EXACTLY how blacks view "success"... they think every woman of every race is FOR THEM. Apparently, lots and lots of women are giving Tyrone the proverbial finger.

White men are just so inferior....

 

[Don Wassall]

As I've mentioned before, check out reputable dating sites and it shows that very few white women, hispanic women, and almost zero asian women, are interested in black men. Even more and more black women are openly advertising for white men. White men are still desirable in spite of a solid generation-plus of the power structure demonizing them and trying to emasculate them. Just think how strong we would be if we as a group can recognize, rejectand cast(e) off the psychological warfare that is being waged so intently against us. No wonder our enemies never relent for a second.

 

[albinosprint]

hey charlie, I notice you haven't commented on your website that 9.98 was ran today by a white man. what do you have to say now Charlie?