Do you claim Genghis Khan as part White ? he was apparently red haired and green eyes

[EurasianFan]

That's all I ever said.

You claimed Genghis Khan had white blood, which implies European rather than Caucasian. You even said red hair and light eyes originated in Europe which is B.S

Mongolians have 0% European blood, only a small quantity of west Asian blood.

 

[EurasianFan]

Spoken like a true anit-white. You sure "give a crap about black" when you think your using them to make a point here.

I'm anti-nonsense, not all members from this forums are lunatics but some clearly are especially the ones who even dared claim Eurasians as white. Like I said before I wouldn't be surprised if one day some boxer of south asian descent with pale skin and blue eyes be claimed by members from this forum.

 

[davidholly]

You claimed Genghis Khan had white blood, which implies European rather than Caucasian. You even said red hair and light eyes originated in Europe which is B.S

Mongolians have 0% European blood, only a small quantity of west Asian blood.

I don't know about green eyes but blue eyes most certainly did originate in Europe.

The team, whose research is published in the journal Human Genetics, identified a single mutation in a gene called OCA2, which arose by chance somewhere around the northwest coasts of the Black Sea in one single individual, about 8,000 years ago.

I recall a study that showed red hair originated in what is now the Netherlands but I can't seem to find it. Red hair is most common among people with R1b Y-Chromosome which most certainly did come from Western Europe.

 

[EurasianFan]

I don't know about green eyes but blue eyes most certainly did originate in Europe.



I recall a study that showed red hair originated in what is now the Netherlands but I can't seem to find it. Red hair is most common among people with R1b Y-Chromosome which most certainly did come from Western Europe.

The black sea isn't that Europe, it's in the very southern part of Europe. One would expect it originated in Northern Europe since 90% of them have mostly blue eyes and light eyes.

As for red hair originated in western europe, it doesn't even reach over 6% of western europe so it can't possibly be R1b. In spain and portugal red hair is like 0.5%

 

[davidholly]

The black sea isn't that Europe, it's in the very southern part of Europe. One would expect it originated in Northern Europe since 90% of them have mostly blue eyes and light eyes.

Northwestern Black Sea is pretty far north, it spread from there.

As for red hair originated in western europe, it doesn't even reach over 6% of western europe so it can't possibly be R1b

I never said it was R1b I said red hair is most common among people with R1b, red hair is extremely rare 6% of western Europe accounts for nearly all cases of red hair on earth.

 

[EurasianFan]

Northwestern Black Sea is pretty far north, it spread from there.

I never said it was R1b I said red hair is most common among people with R1b, red hair is extremely rare 6% of western Europe accounts for nearly all cases of red hair on earth.

Norwestern Black sea is more closer to Romania which is 5x closer to turkey than England.

Which is precisely why R1b has nothing to do with red hair. since Spain and Portugese hae 0-2% red hair only but yet north spain has 80% R1b while other countries who are only N1c and I have more red hair.

mtDNA plays a role aswell it's not just Y-DNA

Some claim Europeans with blue eyes originated from middle eastern agriculturist

 

[Awake in America]

Having read the entire thread, and looked at all the pictures and graphs (seriously, all of it, why the hell don't I have a date tonight?), I am ready to make a definitive statement!


Eurasians Exist!


I will disagree in some fashion or to some extent with anyone who says otherwise.

 

[davidholly]

Norwestern Black sea is more closer to Romania which is 5x closer to turkey than England.

Which is precisely why R1b has nothing to do with red hair. since Spain and Portugese hae 0-2% red hair only but yet north spain has 80% R1b while other countries who are only N1c and I have more red hair.

mtDNA plays a role aswell it's not just Y-DNA

Some claim Europeans with blue eyes originated from middle eastern agriculturist

I said blue eyes originated north west of the black sea, not red hair. Learn how to read. I said red hair most likely originated around Netherlands. You can't deny red hair is most prevalent among R1b either, look at the Celtic nations!

 

[EurasianFan]

Red hair is rather common in Udmurts; Udmurtia is reputed to have the greatest frequency of natural redheads in the world which is ironic because they also have the highest mongoloid admixture among whites.

But they live in western Siberia and have high frequencies of N and almost 0% R1b

 

[EurasianFan]

I said blue eyes originated north west of the black sea, not red hair. Learn how to read. I said red hair most likely originated around Netherlands. You can't deny red hair is most prevalent among R1b either, look at the Celtic nations!

I didn't imply red hair originate from north west black sea but blue eyes did, which is a area much closer to the middle east and even Romania have much lower frequencies than other frequent blue eyes european nations.

 

[Awake in America]

... they also have the highest mongoloid admixture among whites.

Among whites? Are they white? Even with that mongoloid admixture? If one of them was a good boxer, would you still call him white, or would that be pathetic? I'm just asking if you are being consistent.

 

[EurasianFan]

Among whites? Are they white? Even with that mongoloid admixture? If one of them was a good boxer, would you still call him white, or would that be pathetic? I'm just asking if you are being consistent.

They are white because their mongoloid admixture is less than 25%.
1/4 Asians are 25% udmurt have from 15- 23% so they are less enough not to be considered mix so is okay to call them white

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Eurasian Fan,

From your comments on Middle Easterners it's obvious that you don't actually know any or associate with them. As a White male, Ive posted many new pics of myself on this site with many Middle Eastern women Ive dated. I also have several very close Middle Eastern guy friends.

Many Middle Easterners look white, as you can see from the pics Ive posted. Moreover, many Middle Easterners define themselves as white or whiteish. For example, Iranians and Afghans often differentiate themselves from Pakis or Indians on the grounds of skin colour (Persians are whitish, Indians are darker). I should know because Ive dated many.

*Eurasian Fan* what you must realize is that there is no precise definition of who is white. Some people will consider Middle Easterners white and some people won't. No one side is right or wrong, its a matter of personal perception, as there is not standard on who is white and who is not. There is perhaps a general perimeter on whiteness as being largely Caucasian and fair skinned, but there is no specific definition. Your comments are thus erroneous in the sense that you're trying to imply some sort of "white standard" which doesn't exist.

Further, its important to understand that The meaning of the word "white" has changed substantially over time. Quite literally, in the mid 1900's, many Europeans such as Italians, Russians, Romanians, and even the Irish were not seen as being "white". Today, almost everyone would agree that these people are white. So, the definiton of 'white" has expanded over time.

The danger with your type of thinking, Eurasian Fan, is that maybe you'd like to go back to the times when only Western and Northern Euros were seen as white. If you'd like to go back to that definition, we'd probably be dealing with only less than 5% of the world's population as being white. That is madness. So then Italians, Greeks, Slavs, Romanians, Russians and such would not be seen as white.

Eurasian Fan seems to be emphasizing the point that many people considered white have partial or very small mixtures, and yes that is true. But that is true in all races including Blacks, Yellows, and Browns. You'd find it very difficult if not impossible to find a population that is entirely "pure" anywhere in the world.

Oh, and by the way Chechens are absolutely white and absolutely European. They largely self-identify as white. Culturally, they are different than other whites, but no question they are white.

In my opinion if someone is largely Caucasian with fair skin, they should be labelled as "white"! This is why I consider all ethnic Euros, and many Middle Easterners, South Americans as white.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

This whole idea that Caste Football "claims" somebody as White or not is a non-starter. We are individuals, not a hive of identical thinking drones as is the left.

What we've agreed is that "White" can be subjective at the margins and some will disagree with others on whether someone should be considered White or not. But that's a trifle, and has nothing to do with this site and its mission. Everyone roots for whatever athletes they want to, and that has sometimes included Euro/Asian mixes. For example, Jaxvid always rooted for Johnny Damon (half Thai) and no one cared or took issue with it.

As far as the word Caucasian, I never use it as it's an unattractive word both verbally and in writing. It also sounds and looks like a variation of the word Asian. I love the word White and for variations, European or Euro or Euro-American is fine. I have noticed that Caucasian is used by the system more than it used to be, especially among blacks who would recoil in horror if someone referred to them as Negroes. It's curious that as Oriental has fallen out of use for Asians, and Negro for blacks, Caucasian is becoming more commonly used for Whites. That's not coming from the "White community"; I've heard very few Whites ever refer to themselves as "Caucasian" rather than White.

But as for the thread itself, it's ridiculous, but it also creates an instant frenzy of posting like the one earlier in the Boxing forum. If the consensus is to ban this weirdo that's fine with me. If we want to keep him around for entertainment purposes that's fine too.

Thank you and Great comments you make!

Yes I also love the word White and I love referring to myself as White. However, I also am fond of the word Caucasian and have no problem referring to myself as Caucasian. You bring up great points though and yes White, or Euro are the best terms to use especially in everyday conversation.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

I'm anti-nonsense, not all members from this forums are lunatics but some clearly are especially the ones who even dared claim Eurasians as white. Like I said before I wouldn't be surprised if one day some boxer of south asian descent with pale skin and blue eyes be claimed by members from this forum.

Your clearly not "anti-nonsense" or you wouldnt be going so crazy over a few white guys rooting for Gennady Golovkin. Your clearly anti-White based on your hardcore stance against the strawman you created.

You hate white people. I understand. You have been brainwashed to hate us. Its not your fault, and its never too late to wise up.:icon_wink:

 

[jaxvid]

Having read the entire thread, and looked at all the pictures and graphs (seriously, all of it, why the hell don't I have a date tonight?), I am ready to make a definitive statement!

Eurasians Exist!

I will disagree in some fashion or to some extent with anyone who says otherwise.

Funniest post yet! I LOL'ed. actually out loud. But seriously isn't race a social constuct??

My uncle told me the only way you could be sure a woman was White was if you wanted to sleep with her.

Personally I define White as the Supreme Court once defined pornography, I might not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it.

I like the troll, maybe this thread can dissolve into another scintillating discussion of cannibilism. One thing about those eurasians, they sure are hard workers (on internet forums).

 

[The Hock]

So I cast my vote in this poll and find out only two others bothered to vote. Oh well. I just like to participate I guess.

Was Genghis Khan white? I vote yes! Only a white man could conquer the way he conquered.

And if you think I'm trying to slant things here Eurasian, here's your proof. http://youtu.be/Lq1K0Y-I6vg

 

[davidholly]

So I cast my vote in this poll and find out only two others bothered to vote. Oh well. I just like to participate I guess.

Was Genghis Khan white? I vote yes! Only a white man could conquer the way he conquered.

And if you think I'm trying to slant things here Eurasian, here's your proof. http://youtu.be/Lq1K0Y-I6vg

Genghis Khan's male line is one of the most prevalent on earth. His Y Chromosome Haplogroup was East Asian. He most certainly was not white.

 

[Rebajlo]

EurasianFan -

If you genuinely are some kind of disgusting chop-stick mongrel sporting a bowl cut, haven't you got a wok containing a bit of dog-meat to occupy yourself with instead of spamming the forum with pointless tripe like photos of bloody Dravidian albinos and other sundry Asian freaks?

 

[Matra2]

He looks fairly white in this picture:happy:

 

[DixieDestroyer]

He looks fairly white in this picture:happy:

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LOL...good one. . I never considered Kahn as White.

 

[Zeus]

My answer to this thread (in intellectual Ebonics) and I rest my case:

" I ain't kno' what dat nigga were but he ain't no black! He ain't real, he ain't a brotha, feel me? Dig wit me dawg? Asian, White, Arab or Native American, I ain't give da s h i t brah. All dese people have explored, invented, produced empires, philosophy, went on da moon, created powerful nations and continents, had kings and great warriors, won and fought wars...........we niggas all we got is some basketball, boxing and some trashy music in da USA, and all dat was during the 20th century dat our Zionist bosses decided to make us fashionable puppets. We still slaves but wit a different boss dis time and plus we get over-paid. But so what? 95% of us is ending up broke crying on national TV. All we got is dese three things in da USA from thousands years of history, society and civilization. All we have traditionally dominated on a global level is poverty, slavery and disease..........Boy wut? Who gives a s h i t if dis pale mothaf u c k e r was Asian, Arab or white......he wasn't no nigga, I know dat. He wasn't no slave so I ain't diggin' here. WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[whiteathlete33]

This guy Eurasian fan is hilarious. He's one of the funnier trolls and I can't stop laughing at what a loser he is. We already know he's an obese wigger who is fascinated with black boxers. He's been laughed at so he had to remove his picture from other websites. Now he comes in here to let us know Eurasians aren't white. He does all this out of his mommies basement.

 

[davidholly]

EurasianFan also lacks a basic understanding of geography. The Udmurts are west of the Ural mountains, the Ural mountains are where Siberian ends and where Europe beings.

 

[Wes Woodhead]

My answer to this thread (in intellectual Ebonics) and I rest my case:

" I ain't kno' what dat nigga were but he ain't no black! He ain't real, he ain't a brotha, feel me? Dig wit me dawg? Asian, White, Arab or Native American, I ain't give da s h i t brah. All dese people have explored, invented, produced empires, philosophy, went on da moon, created powerful nations and continents, had kings and great warriors, won and fought wars...........we niggas all we got is some basketball, boxing and some trashy music in da USA, and all dat was during the 20th century dat our Zionist bosses decided to make us fashionable puppets. We still slaves but wit a different boss dis time and plus we get over-paid. But so what? 95% of us is ending up broke crying on national TV. All we got is dese three things in da USA from thousands years of history, society and civilization. All we have traditionally dominated on a global level is poverty, slavery and disease..........Boy wut? Who gives a s h i t if dis pale mothaf u c k e r was Asian, Arab or white......he wasn't no nigga, I know dat. He wasn't no slave so I ain't diggin' here. WHOAH!!!!!!!!!!"

EPIC Zeus!!!! Simply Epic. A hall of fame post.