"Darkest Hour" - Hollywood's latest Winston Churchill propaganda

[werewolf]

http://tomatobubble.com/darkest_hour_churchill.html

Special notice to our friend Westside!

 

[celticdb15]

Ive read several tomatobubble articles over past few days since you shared the QAnon article and they've all been really solid and interesting. !

 

[Heretic]

http://tomatobubble.com/darkest_hour_churchill.html

Special notice to our friend Westside!

Driving long-distance during the holidays, I can't tell you how many times I heard the ad for this movie on "Conservative" radio. At the end of the promotional ad, they have Churchill saying, "We will never surrender!". Umm, I was thinking to myself, "yes you did"...you surrendered to the Rothschilds and to the globalist NWO cabal by allowing millions of third world savages to invade your country and destroy "Merry Ole England" forever. If that's not "surrender", I don't know what is. Pure poppyc*ck propaganda.

Again, for the millionth time, where are the movies, TV shows, articles, plays, etc. on the evils of Communism and the role that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro played in that? Why are they exempt from criticism or even simple scrutiny from "our" media, Hollywood and academic institutions? (rhetorical question, I know.)

 

[Westside]

http://tomatobubble.com/darkest_hour_churchill.html

Special notice to our friend Westside!

Got it.

 

[Charles Martel]

I don't like either Winston Churchill or Adolf Hitler, both were warmongers who placed a very low value on the lives of brave men.

Churchill wasn't anything like his ancestor the Duke of Marlborough, although he reaped the benefits of being descended from that great man.

Winston's weak character was demonstrated in his envy of a man who became a success without Churchill's aristocratic advantages, namely Herbert Kitchener. He was unfairly critical of the great general after the Battle of Omdurman, and in later years.

One of the worst military mistakes in British history was Churchill's idea, the decision to attack the Turks at Gallipoli. “The price to be paid in taking Gallipoli would no doubt be heavy,” Churchill wrote, “but there would be no more war with Turkey. A good army of 50,000 and sea-power—that is the end of the Turkish menace.” He was wrong, the geography and topography made it probably the most difficult place to launch an attack against the Turks. Again, this shows he was an arrogant aristocrat who placed a low value on the lives of soldiers. Even after the British were defeated at Gallipoli, Churchill opposed having the survivors evacuated.

And his decision to bomb and set fire to Dresden and murder many thousands of civilian refugees was a horrific war crime.

On the positive side, Churchill did write some very good books on British history.

 

[Thrashen]

And his decision to bomb and set fire to Dresden and murder many thousands of civilian refugees was a horrific war crime.

Before and after the ghastly war crime that was the "Bombing of Dresden," there were many other German cities ruthlessly bombed in a similar (cowardly) manner. Surely the SJW's who control all forms of media are interested in obtaining justice for the civilian men, women, children, pets, and 1,600 acres of wildlife that were instantly incinerated by millions of pounds of napalm incendiary bombs (courtesy of the "heroic" British Royal Air Force) for the crime of living a Germany during wartimes.

Anyone can slander the infinite boogeymen of Nazi Germany until their hearts are content...but in the end it was the Unites States and Great Britain that literally aligned themselves with the sadistic, soulless, mass-murdering, mass-torturing, mass-raping Communists of the USSR and the globalist Jews of Europe. And where did it get them in the end?

"Darkest Hour," indeed...

 

[werewolf]

Before and after the ghastly war crime that was the "Bombing of Dresden," there were many other German cities ruthlessly bombed in a similar (cowardly) manner. Surely the SJW's who control all forms of media are interested in obtaining justice for the civilian men, women, children, pets, and 1,600 acres of wildlife that were instantly incinerated by millions of pounds of napalm incendiary bombs (courtesy of the "heroic" British Royal Air Force) for the crime of living a Germany during wartimes.

Anyone can slander the infinite boogeymen of Nazi Germany until their hearts are content...but in the end it was the Unites States and Great Britain that literally aligned themselves with the sadistic, soulless, mass-murdering, mass-torturing, mass-raping Communists of the USSR and the globalist Jews of Europe. And where did it get them in the end?

"Darkest Hour," indeed...

Even their ally, the monster Stalin, repudiated the USA-UK's destruction of the undefended city of Dresden occurring when the war was essentially already over. Medieval Dresden was acclaimed the most beautiful city in Europe. It had no war industry and had been up to then left unmolested. It was crammed to the rafters with refugees fleeing the Allied Red terror in the east as well as POW's (including famous Kurt Vonnegut who wrote about it in his book Slaughterhouse Five), and elderly people and women and children. Children were dressed in costume for a Christian holiday. Then the Allies attacked. They learned to set off firestorms when they accidentally did so while bombing the great city of Hamburg, and now they had been deliberately doing it, firebombing the cities and towns and villages of Germany and Europe and Japan, always concentrating on the working class districts where they could get more kills per bomb and had less antiaircraft defense than actual military targets.

They firebombed Dresden and they strafed the survivors who had fled to the river. They even strafed the animals in the famous Dresden Zoo. Then they stopped. They stopped so that fire fighters from all the neighboring districts could come into the city to fight the fires. And then they attacked all over again so that they could kill them too. It was the worst massacre in the history of Europe. Probably about 750,000 people were killed.

Then they took the photos of the dead stacked up, like the one that Thrashen just posted, and relabeled them "holocaust victims" and used that as evidence in their Nurenberg show trials and in their holocaust museums now.


https://www.amazon.com/Dresden-1945...8&qid=1515006553&sr=1-4&keywords=dresden+1945

 

[werewolf]

Ive read several tomatobubble articles over past few days since you shared the QAnon article and they've all been really solid and interesting. !

has george soros been "disappeared"?

http://tomatobubble.com/where_is_george_soros.html

 

[celticdb15]

has george soros been "disappeared"?

http://tomatobubble.com/where_is_george_soros.html

I enjoyed that one as well as the one regarding the mythical trail of tears.

 

[werewolf]

I enjoyed that one as well as the one regarding the mythical trail of tears.

The "trail of tears" about the Cherokee tribe. Yeah, the Cherokees are still there where they were in the first place. Many American Indian tribes owned slaves, but the biggest slave owners by far were the Cherokee. The last Confederate general to surrender to the Yankee invaders was CSA General Stand Watie of the Cherokee nation. A US postage stamp was even made in his honor. So now, as Paul Harvey used to say, you know the rest of the story!

 

[celticdb15]

The "trail of tears" about the Cherokee tribe. Yeah, the Cherokees are still there where they were in the first place. Many American Indian tribes owned slaves, but the biggest slave owners by far were the Cherokee. The last Confederate general to surrender to the Yankee invaders was CSA General Stand Watie of the Cherokee nation. A US postage stamp was even made in his honor. So now, as Paul Harvey used to say, you know the rest of the story!

Crazy. Really is true the winning side writes history. Also Cherokee Tribe has 14* counties in modern day Oklahoma which im sure youre familiar with. I'll post the article for others who havent read it.

According to that TM article Watie owned over 800 slaves! Ironic that gets nary a mention in modern "history." Now a film on Stand Watie would be a film worth seeing if done well (Mel Gibson). Instead of that BS McConaughey Slave Uprising movie hollyweird trotted out recently that FAILED!

I'm finding a lot of "The ALT History" fascinating as a history buff. 2 sides to every story.

http://tomatobubble.com/trail_of_tears_myth.html

**Sorry if im hijacking the thread a bit.

 

[werewolf]

Cherokee Confederates reuinion New Orleans 1903

 

[werewolf]

The monster Churchill:

"This is not to say that the mountains of corpses left in Dresden were ignored by the Nuremberg Tribunal. In one final irony, the prosecution presented photographs of the Dresden dead as “evidence” of alleged National Socialist atrocities against Jewish concentration-camp inmates!

Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted, and the rest is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to “impress” another one let to the mass murder of up to a half million men, women and children..."


http://davidduke.com/the-wwii-dresden-holocaust-a-single-column-of-flame/

 

[werewolf]

Even the monster Stalin was appalled at the joint USA-UK holocaust - a real holocaust! - in Dresden, particularly so because he had soon planned to seize the beautiful city.

The Americans used Mustang fighters to strafe the burned survivors who had fled the city to the river Elbe and also to strafe the animals in the Dresden Zoo. Ironically the Mustang fighter plane was designed by a German-American.

 

[Rebajlo]

Thrashen / werewolf -

The angelic Germans, of course, had never - ever - conducted any bombing of civilian targets themselves, had they…

While we’re on the subject of war crimes, I’d like to pose a question. Now, as both of you know full well, I’ve posed this question a number of times before but nobody has thus far bothered to vouchsafe an answer so I’ll ask again:

What are your views on the subject of Generalplan Ost and its constituent Sonderaktion and Intelligenzaktion operations, whereby Polish civilians were brutally expelled from their homes en masse to make way for German colonists while - in addition to, amongst other things, routine bullet-ridden “pacifications” of local populations - the Polish intelligentsia and professional classes were systematically targeted for “elimination”?

Do you believe that:

(a) all of this is simply malicious anti-German propaganda and none of these events took place

(b) some of these events may have occurred but - if so - on a far smaller scale than is generally accepted; or

(c) these events happened but it's no big deal as all German "operations" were fully justified and the "casualties" deserved everything they got

Your opinions must surely fall within the scope of one of these lines of argument. So, which one is it?

 

[werewolf]

To Rebajlo -

The "angelic Germans", as you put it with your subtle sarcasm, tried to arrange an agreement with the All-lies not to bomb civilian targets, but the "angelic allies" wouldn't hear of it. At the beginning of the war they tried to bomb German military targets but found that to be too dangerous, and they spent the rest of the war terror bombing all the cities towns and villages in Germany and Europe and Japan, always concentrating on the densely occupied working class sections where they could get more kills per bomb. That's how they won their "good war", by killing as many defenseless civilians as possible.

As for Poland, Poland and Hitler's Germany were friends until the Polish leader Marshall "the devil is in the east" Pilsudski died in 1935. After that Polish warmongers, egged on by britain and france, took over. Even so hitler tried very hard to get Poland to join the Anticommintern pact. They forget to tell people that it was Poland that was brutally occupying Germany and cutting it off from eastern part of the country and brutalizing and murdering german people within its borders and refusing to make a peace treaty before war broke out and not the other way around.

Then when war between germany and poland finally did break out the Allies, their red branch, invaded poland from the east for no reason at all, but that was ok with the all-lies.


Poland, Germany, and Russia and all the other white nations, should never have been manipulated into mass murdering the best blood of each other. Terrible tragedy. The worst tragedy ever. The red branch of the Allies mass murdered the best blood of Poland in the Katyn Forest. After the war the Allies lied and said the Germans did it and tortured them until they "confessed" and then killed them.

Now look what's left in western Europe. Black african cannibals and the scum of islam would never have been allowed to set foot in Europe before those fratricidal wars. At least Poland and most of eastern europe are standing up to the invasions. Germany itself has been an enemy occupied country since 1945.


Me, I'm pro Poland and pro Russia and pro Germany and all the white nations. I just try to know the truth about everything, and it ain't whats on CNN or what they are teaching in their schools!

 

[Riggins44]

To Rebajlo -

Now look what's left in western Europe. Black african cannibals and the scum of islam would never have been allowed to set foot in Europe before those fratricidal wars. At least Poland and most of eastern europe are standing up to the invasions. Germany itself has been an enemy occupied country since 1945.

Me, I'm pro Poland and pro Russia and pro Germany and all the white nations. I just try to know the truth about everything, and it ain't whats on CNN or what they are teaching in their schools!

I agree completely. Truer words were never spoken.

 

[sport historian]

Thrashen / werewolf -

The angelic Germans, of course, had never - ever - conducted any bombing of civilian targets themselves, had they…

While we’re on the subject of war crimes, I’d like to pose a question. Now, as both of you know full well, I’ve posed this question a number of times before but nobody has thus far bothered to vouchsafe an answer so I’ll ask again:

What are your views on the subject of Generalplan Ost and its constituent Sonderaktion and Intelligenzaktion operations, whereby Polish civilians were brutally expelled from their homes en masse to make way for German colonists while - in addition to, amongst other things, routine bullet-ridden “pacifications” of local populations - the Polish intelligentsia and professional classes were systematically targeted for “elimination”?

Do you believe that:

(a) all of this is simply malicious anti-German propaganda and none of these events took place

(b) some of these events may have occurred but - if so - on a far smaller scale than is generally accepted; or

(c) these events happened but it's no big deal as all German "operations" were fully justified and the "casualties" deserved everything they got

Your opinions must surely fall within the scope of one of these lines of argument. So, which one is it?

Rebajlo,

The angelic Germans bombarded London (mainly) with the V1 and V2 weapons during 1944-45, killing nearly 10,000 civilians and wounding many thousands more. And this destroyed countless homes. These weapons were intended to kill civilians.

Before this, Hitler ordered Operation Steinbock, night bombing raids on the London area during January-May 1944. The Luftwaffe fighter commanders wanted to build up German fighter defenses but Hitler would have none of it. He ordered "Reprisal" with insufficient numbers, crippling losses, and aside from killing some civilians, no military effect.

In 1939, the Germans bombed Warsaw and the rest of Poland with all they had. After the 1944 Warsaw Uprising was put down, the Germans had demolition and flame thrower units going through Warsaw destroying what was left of the city block by block. This went on until the Russians took Warsaw in January 1945.

In your questions above, you make a good point. Hitler treated Polish Gentiles with his usual stupid brutality.

 

[Menelik]

Yes Russia is the last refuge for the white man!

https://www.rt.com/news/359044-eid-muslim-holiday-moscow/

 

[Heretic]

Yes Russia is the last refuge for the white man!

https://www.rt.com/news/359044-eid-muslim-holiday-moscow/

It's difficult to tell from that high if they are White or not.

I think one of the reasons why Islam has gained such a following over the past several decades is because it hasn't been watered-down or bastardized with gynocentrism or the LGBTQ agenda that Christian congregations in the West have been (deliberately) during that same time period, thus losing a lot of religious integrity and much of its meaning and purpose...becoming blasphemous, really.

I think a lot of (White) men abandoned Christianity once the churches essentially became "safe spaces" free of any scripture that may in any way depict the natural order or traditional roles of men and women. No criticism of homosexuality allowed, either (which can now get you jail time in Canada and the UK).

On the other hand, Islam has been able (allowed) to maintain its masculinity, so men feel much more welcome and are much more welcomed, even if they are dirt poor, thus the numbers you see in the above video and elsewhere, all across the globe, where it will eventually take over all countries unless some "black swan" event happens.

 

[Don Wassall]

Also, Russia has always had a large number of Muslims historically. Russia is a Eurasian country demographically and geographically, not a European one. Many of the component countries of the former USSR are predominantly Muslim. Muslim radicalism is far more of a threat to Russia than to the U.S. due to Russia's proximity to the Muslim world, or at least it should be. It's only a problem here because of the agenda of the Democrats and Republicans to open up the country to everyone over the past 50 years.

 

[werewolf]

Also, Russia has always had a large number of Muslims historically. Russia is a Eurasian country demographically and geographically, not a European one. Many of the component countries of the former USSR are predominantly Muslim. Muslim radicalism is far more of a threat to Russia than to the U.S. due to Russia's proximity to the Muslim world, or at least it should be. It's only a problem here because of the agenda of the Democrats and Republicans to open up the country to everyone over the past 50 years.

Moscow alone has between 1 1/2 and 2 million moslems but as you say they come from the "stans" and they are racially different than what they are using to trash all the white western nations which are negroes and mud creatures, mostly military age ISIS terrorists with their beards shaved off. The moslems in Russia are white and Asian and mixed white-asian. The government of Russia is strongly Christian, Russian Orthodox - the only Christian denomination that I respect. Russia has only had sporadic trouble with it's mohamedans since making peace with Chechnya. China too is having trouble with it's moslems who are racially like the Russian moslems.

 

[werewolf]

Alan Sabrosky
Yesterday at 12:58am ·
Vladimir Putin once remarked that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century. He was almost correct: if the USSR were still around, none of America's imperial wars in the Middle East would have been possible, and millions of innocent lives would not have been shattered.

But the truly great geopolitical and social catastrophe of the 20th century was what one might call the European Civil War, 1914-1945. Think of a world without the global conflicts and the wars in between. Then weep for what happened.

 

[Rebajlo]

To Rebajlo -

The "angelic Germans", as you put it with your subtle sarcasm, tried to arrange an agreement with the All-lies not to bomb civilian targets, but the "angelic allies" wouldn't hear of it. At the beginning of the war they tried to bomb German military targets but found that to be too dangerous, and they spent the rest of the war terror bombing all the cities towns and villages in Germany and Europe and Japan, always concentrating on the densely occupied working class sections where they could get more kills per bomb. That's how they won their "good war", by killing as many defenseless civilians as possible.

As for Poland, Poland and Hitler's Germany were friends until the Polish leader Marshall "the devil is in the east" Pilsudski died in 1935. After that Polish warmongers, egged on by britain and france, took over. Even so hitler tried very hard to get Poland to join the Anticommintern pact. They forget to tell people that it was Poland that was brutally occupying Germany and cutting it off from eastern part of the country and brutalizing and murdering german people within its borders and refusing to make a peace treaty before war broke out and not the other way around.

Then when war between germany and poland finally did break out the Allies, their red branch, invaded poland from the east for no reason at all, but that was ok with the all-lies.


Poland, Germany, and Russia and all the other white nations, should never have been manipulated into mass murdering the best blood of each other. Terrible tragedy. The worst tragedy ever. The red branch of the Allies mass murdered the best blood of Poland in the Katyn Forest. After the war the Allies lied and said the Germans did it and tortured them until they "confessed" and then killed them.

Now look what's left in western Europe. Black african cannibals and the scum of islam would never have been allowed to set foot in Europe before those fratricidal wars. At least Poland and most of eastern europe are standing up to the invasions. Germany itself has been an enemy occupied country since 1945.


Me, I'm pro Poland and pro Russia and pro Germany and all the white nations. I just try to know the truth about everything, and it ain't whats on CNN or what they are teaching in their schools!

werewolf -

My “subtle sarcasm” is not half as “subtle” as the terminology you and Thrashen have habitually used to describe the British, is it now…

We’ve debated the background and lead up to the Second World War before. I don’t have the time or inclination to repeat myself, so if anyone is interested here are links to my previous posts on the subject:

http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/si-swimsuit-blonde-and-swastikas.11018/page-5#post-164324

http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/hitler-and-the-invasion-of-poland.17162/#post-320185

The Germans bombed civilian targets in Poland from the outset. Does “Wielun” mean anything to you? How about the events sport historian outlined in his post?

You mentioned the massacre in the forest of Katyn. The Soviets were inhumanly barbaric scum. I should know, as my family hailed from the eastern regions of pre-war Poland. How about - for example - the massacres at Palmiry?

I’m also pro-White, regardless of ethnicity or nationality. You’ve doubtlessly noticed that I never initiate discussions about the Second World War but merely react to them.

I don’t wish to be a pedant, but you still haven’t proffered an answer to my question about Generalplan Ost…

Rebajlo,

The angelic Germans bombarded London (mainly) with the V1 and V2 weapons during 1944-45, killing nearly 10,000 civilians and wounding many thousands more. And this destroyed countless homes. These weapons were intended to kill civilians.

Before this, Hitler ordered Operation Steinbock, night bombing raids on the London area during January-May 1944. The Luftwaffe fighter commanders wanted to build up German fighter defenses but Hitler would have none of it. He ordered "Reprisal" with insufficient numbers, crippling losses, and aside from killing some civilians, no military effect.

In 1939, the Germans bombed Warsaw and the rest of Poland with all they had. After the 1944 Warsaw Uprising was put down, the Germans had demolition and flame thrower units going through Warsaw destroying what was left of the city block by block. This went on until the Russians took Warsaw in January 1945.

In your questions above, you make a good point. Hitler treated Polish Gentiles with his usual stupid brutality.

sport historian -

Thank you for your post.

You spoke of German flamethrower units in the aftermath of the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. The flamethrowers were also used during the Uprising. Permit me to share a bit of my family history.

With the exception of my mother and uncle - both of whom subsequently grew up in separate orphanages with no knowledge of each other’s existence until adulthood - my entire family had already been wiped out by October 1944. After escaping their home prior to the Ukrainian-perpetrated and German-encouraged Wolyn Slaughter in which a minimum of circa. 100,000 civilians perished, my grandparents were both murdered in Warsaw a year later.

My unarmed civilian grandfather was casually shot in front of his wife and my then six-year-old mother and eight-year old uncle by a group of particularly chivalrous German soldiers who joked about whether they should kill “the Polish pig” before simply opening fire then laughingly sauntering off as if nothing had happened. I’m sure a member or two would inwardly commend such German paladins for nobly refraining from killing a subhuman Polack woman and her children. That’s if they even believed a word of what I say - which I doubt.

In case anyone is wondering about the fate of my grandmother, well she was incinerated by flamethrower-wielding Germans who gleefully “pacified” civilians as if they were exterminating cockroaches. Thankfully, my mother did not see my grandmother’s murder, for by that time she had been separated from the tiny remainder of her family and was saved from a pleasant train trip to one of those nice German (sorry - “Nazi”) “work camps” by an AK (Armia Krajowa) or NSZ (Narodowe Sily Zbrojne) attack upon the railway station at which she was being herded into carriages along with other civilians of all ages. My uncle, however, witnessed the gruesome scene in full but kept the memory to himself, only revealing the manner of my grandmother’s death not long before he passed away…

 

[Ambrose]

Not to take sides so here is my very simplified view:

Our race is of two genders and many ethnicities, but we are all of the white family, and we ought to make positive expressions of the nature and character of our people. The Rhode Island farmer is as much your brother as the Russian bus driver is your sister. What gain is had in disparaging or dishonoring broad groups of our kind? In the past millions were misled to attack those who were really their own though they did not know it well enough. The tyrant masters -such as but not limited to the House of Rothschild- were the real culprits of those catastrophes; lest we forget.