Coming Financial Crisis Worse Than ’29?

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Yeah, now the Repubs in congress are the only roadblocks to fiscal insanity. Lets see if they have the courage to tell BO, dems and RINOs from the senate to go F themselves. Interestly, 8 Republican senators said no, Rand, Rubio and 6 others. Let see what happens. The idea of extending unemployment another year is absurd. That means millions of losers are going to be on it for 3 or 4 years straight through. !
 

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With all of the hot air emanating from Washington in regards to the debt limit, here is a humorous video that puts what the politicians (from both parties) are asking for in perspective:

[video=youtube;Li0no7O9zmE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Li0no7O9zmE[/video]
 

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The Fed took the plunge with further QE today. It will purchase $40,000,000,000 of mortgage backed securities each month for however long they desire.

Fed Pulls Trigger, to Buy Mortgages in Effort to Lower Rates


Joke is supposed to be that this is Ben Bernanke as a child:


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Our Gang videos are totally funny and very un PC. Virtually every Black character was bug eyed and scared of their own shadow. Unless they were a savage that ran around wild.....:tongue:
 

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FootBall Dad, That's a great video. Says it all about the govt. and the people who support the fedgov.
 

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I guess this is the next best thing to printing money (QE); they’re taxing bank depositors in Cyprus to prevent banks from collapsing. The banks have prevented depositors from withdrawing their money for the time being.

Why the Cyprus Bail In Is a Bigger Deal Than You Think



You can be forgiven for thinking that you don't need to give a hoot about what's going on in Cyprus.

After all, it's just a little island somewhere in the Mediterranean.
But what's going on in Cyprus could actually matter — not just to the rest of Europe, but to the rest of the world.

Here's the short version of what's happening:

Some of Cyprus's banks, like many banks in Europe, are bankrupt.
Cyprus went to the eurozone to get a bailout, the same way Ireland, Greece, and other European countries have.

The eurozone powers-that-be (mainly Germany) gave Cyprus a bailout and insisted that the depositors in Cyprus's banks pay part of the tab — a startling condition that has never before been imposed on any major banking system since the start of the global financial crisis in 2008.

The deal did not touch the bondholders. Why the depositors? These are folks who had their money in the banks for safe-keeping.

When Cyprus's banks reopen on Tuesday morning, every depositor will have some of his or her money seized. The current plan is that accounts under 100,000 euros will have 6.75% of the funds seized. Accounts over 100,000 euros will have 9.9% seized. And then the eurozone's emergency lending facility and the International Monetary Fund will inject 10 billion euros into the banks to allow them to keep operating.

Cyprus's government tried to explain this deal by observing that it was better than the alternative: Immediate bankruptcy and closure of the major banks. In that scenario, depositors would lose a lot more money. Businesses would go bankrupt. And tens of thousands of people would be instantly thrown out of work.
Not surprisingly, news that deposits in Cyprus's banks would be seized triggered an immediate run on the banks.

Depositors rushed to ATMs and tried to withdraw their money before it could be seized.

But the ATMs weren't working. And the government has now made it impossible to transfer money out of the country.

So, assuming Cyprus's government approves the deal (still pending--with the vote now postponed until Wednesday), depositors will have some of their money seized.
Now, half of these depositors are said to be Russian oligarchs and other non-residents. And unless you happen to have the misfortune of having an account in a Cyprus bank, you may not care much whether these depositors have their money seized.

After all, that was the risk they took for storing their money in weak banks, right?
Well, yes, that was the risk they took.

But ever since the Great Depression wiped out a big percentage of the world's banks, vaporizing the bank depositors' savings in the process, banking system regulators have tried to do everything they can to protect bank depositors.
And they are smart to do so.

Because the moment depositors think that there is risk to their savings, they rush to banks to yank their money out.

That's called a run on the bank.

And since no bank anywhere has enough cash on hand to pay off all its depositors at once, runs on the bank cause banks to go bust.

That's what happened to hundreds of banks in the Great Depression.
And it's what happened to Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and other huge banks during the financial crisis (though, with Bear and Lehman, the folks who yanked their money out weren't mom and pop depositors but other big financial institutions). It's what threatened to bring the entire U.S. financial system to its knees. And it's why the U.S. and European governments have been frantically bailing out banks ever since.

But now, thanks to the eurozone's bizarre decision in Cyprus, the illusion that depositors don't need to yank their money out of threatened banks because they'll be protected has been shattered.

Depositors in Cyprus banks will lose some of their money.
They will be furious about this.

And they will, rightly, feel that it is grossly unfair — because depositors in the bailed-out banks in Ireland, Greece, etc. didn't lose their money.
And they will feel like fools for not having taken their money out.
And ... here's the important part ...

Other depositors at weak banks all over Europe, in places like Spain, Italy, and Greece, will rightly wonder whether this is the beginning of a new era of bank bailouts, an era in which bank depositors are going lose some of their money.
What do you think those other depositors in Spain, Italy, Greece, etc., are going to feel like doing when they realize that, if their banks ever need a bailout, they might have their deposits seized?

That's right.

They're going to feel like yanking their money out of their banks.
And if some of them yank their money out of their banks, well — then the financial condition of those banks will go from weak to insolvent.

And the banks will go rushing to their governments and the eurozone for help.
And the eurozone decides to seize the deposits of more bank depositors.. Well, then, a good portion of Europe might suddenly experience a good old-fashioned bank run.

That, to put it mildly, could be a disaster.

It could bring the European financial crisis, which has lurched from one flare-up to another for most of the past five years, to a rather sudden head.
How much would it cost for the powers-that-be to bail out all of Europe's weak banks at once?

A lot.

More than the Eurozone has in its emergency lending facilities, certainly. And more than the International Monetary Fund has on hand.

So the U.S. would probably have to get involved. And, regardless of whether the U.S. got directly involved, the European economy would likely suffer the equivalent of a heart attack.

That wouldn't be good for the U.S. economy.

Or the Chinese economy.

Or any other economy that sells things to Europe.

So, you can see, this little decision to seize a little money from bank depositors in the little island of Cyprus could be a much bigger deal than you think.

It could conceivably precipitate a run on weak European banks.

And a run on weak European banks could hammer the European economy and then the economy of Europe's trading partners. And it could cause global markets to crash.

So keep an eye on what's going on over there in Cyprus.

It's potentially much more important than it seems.
 

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I guess this is the next best thing to printing money (QE); they’re taxing bank depositors in Cyprus to prevent banks from collapsing. The banks have prevented depositors from withdrawing their money for the time being.

Why the Cyprus Bail In Is a Bigger Deal Than You Think

Like I tell everbody, theives gotta have their money and they steal where the money is. The US hasn't had to do large scale stealing because it can print it--for now. But eventually they will need real cash sources. That means bank accounts, 401Ks, pensions, is where the money will be, and that will be where they go. When that is drained they will come door to door to empty the mattresses.

Eventually the US will be like Cyprus. And it will happen quickly. So be ready.
 

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The usual precious metals advocates think this proposed outright theft in Cypress will be great for gold and silver, with more people fleeing banks and buying precious metals for safety reasons, but the pm market is heavily manipulated by the banksters using paper shorts. They need to be overwhelmed by demands for delivery of the actual product that they can't meet before the manipulation can be broken.

At any rate this seems like a big miscalculation by the banksters as it will put fear in more average people who still have faith in the current system, especially if bank runs start taking place in numerous European countries.
 

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The usual precious metals advocates think this proposed outright theft in Cypress will be great for gold and silver, with more people fleeing banks and buying precious metals for safety reasons, but the pm market is heavily manipulated by the banksters using paper shorts. They need to be overwhelmed by demands for delivery of the actual product that they can't meet before the manipulation can be broken.

At any rate this seems like a big miscalculation by the banksters as it will put fear in more average people who still have faith in the current system, especially if bank runs start taking place in numerous European countries.

Right on both points!

There are two ways to look at precious metals. If you think it's an investment with growth possibilities then you buy it and treat it like any other stock or bond. It will be subject to the same ups and downs and being jerked around like soybeans or pork. If that's the case then you might as well buy paper certificates in the metal.

The other way to look at is as a piece of valuable property that you will benefit just from owning. It doesn't matter if the "market price" goes up or down it will always be with you. This type of "investment" is similar to buying ammo or MRE's. It might just be a big waste of money or the smartest thing you ever do.

Don't get mixed up on your priorities if you decide to purchase gold or silver. Look at it one way or the other.
 

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Right on both points!

There are two ways to look at precious metals. If you think it's an investment with growth possibilities then you buy it and treat it like any other stock or bond. It will be subject to the same ups and downs and being jerked around like soybeans or pork. If that's the case then you might as well buy paper certificates in the metal.

The other way to look at is as a piece of valuable property that you will benefit just from owning. It doesn't matter if the "market price" goes up or down it will always be with you. This type of "investment" is similar to buying ammo or MRE's. It might just be a big waste of money or the smartest thing you ever do.

Don't get mixed up on your priorities if you decide to purchase gold or silver. Look at it one way or the other.
I agree with this financial guru, the economic recovery is based on a house of cards...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=HPXnI5qRP6U
 

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Small denomination silver coins are still the way to go, imho, and the price is relatively low, for now. If/when things collapse, those pre-65 coins will be very helpful.
 

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Investor Jim Rogers says the worst market crash in our lifetime is coming.

http://www.businessinsider.com/jim-rogers-worst-crash-lifetime-coming-2017-6



This thread was first posted here almost ten years ago. I used to go camping with a guy 20 years ago and he was always warning me that the financial system was on the verge of collapsing and buy gold and move out into the wilderness, survivalist stuff, which is cool, and things will no doubt blow up eventually, but...
 

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This thread was first posted here almost ten years ago. I used to go camping with a guy 20 years ago and he was always warning me that the financial system was on the verge of collapsing and buy gold and move out into the wilderness, survivalist stuff, which is cool, and things will no doubt blow up eventually, but...
 

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This thread was first posted here almost ten years ago. I used to go camping with a guy 20 years ago and he was always warning me that the financial system was on the verge of collapsing and buy gold and move out into the wilderness, survivalist stuff, which is cool, and things will no doubt blow up eventually, but...

Survivalism first became big in the 1970s. I recall a book from that era called "The Coming Great Depression of 1975" or something like that. The first group of people who "headed to the hills" are dead or very old now.

There has always been people who make money preying on other people's fears. I used to sell books at gun shows on and off for a number of years, but the only time I ever made money at it was during some survival expos in Ohio in 1999, when Y2K hysteria was in the air and people were buying everything in sight.

Today there are countless "patriotic" people and websites that pander to fear and anxiety, which is also the bread and butter of the establishment and the fake news media. Things could indeed blow up at any time, and looking at it objectively they should have long ago, but the masters of deceit have always kept it going. The most likely scenario is for continued gradualism in the direction they want, which of course means all the "You can count on me when the revolution starts" do-nothing types will, like their 1970s predecessors, continue to whither and die as the system of the beast continues to be implemented.
 

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2001 they didnt let the stocks crash, 2007/8 they didnt let real easte and stocks crash....so there definitely will be crash.

You have to remember that have had to keep record low interest rates with mass stock buy backs and quantative easing..

It will happen, i wouldnt be surprised if it happened in next 2 years.

Germanys my black swan. With trump stopping their low nato payments, uk leaving Eu and trump dealing with their trade surplus, if you throw in Germany demographic issues then i think they could implode the eu failed project.
 
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