Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

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elispeedster

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A white person is like Craig Pickering, Christophe Lemaitre, Borzov, Kenteris, Shivington, etc...

Caucasian is not a word I use ever. I am from the UK, not America. In the UK, we use the term "white" to describe white people and "black" to describe black people, etc... I will support Adam, no problems, but I can not call him white.

The good thing is that it is great Adam Gemili is he running fast, but he is not white. He is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Morocco is located in North Africa.


No such thing as White or Black. Caucasian is a race with variety and diverse features. Kenteris who is Greek can pass for a relative of Gemilli more than he can with Shirvington. Biologically Caucasians do share some similar features, mostly in skeletal structure and DNA. Skin color is one feature mostly due to climate conditions. Sub Saharans Africans (Blacks)are very different than North Africans. Skin color does not determine race. If that were the case, are all brown eyed people the same race because they share one similar feature?

...and Morocco and Iran are countries, not a race. White is not a country. Identifying Gemili as Iranian/Moroccan is defining him by origin of nationality. I am a person of European heritage but my complexion is as dark as Gemili so am I White?
 

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A white person is like Craig Pickering, Christophe Lemaitre, Borzov, Kenteris, Shivington, etc...

Caucasian is not a word I use ever. I am from the UK, not America. In the UK, we use the term "white" to describe white people and "black" to describe black people, etc... I will support Adam, no problems, but I can not call him white.

The good thing is that it is great Adam Gemili is he running fast, but he is not white. He is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Morocco is located in North Africa.

He is from Turkish descent! And what are north african and middle eastern people? Do you know the meaning of IRAN?
Yes, probably north african people have some of subaharan descent. And Spain, Italy (almost south italy...) and Turkey could have some north african descent. Do you remember Othello? What is the problem? Every people in the world are in some way mixed. It's a problem only if you think that there are differences between polpulation in the world. I don't think so.
You could read this article:
http://www.science.smith.edu/exer_sci/ESS200/Raceh/Raceh.htm

I think that Gemili is very important to demonstrate that there aren't differences between blacks, whites, browns, light browns, reds, yellows, dark yellows, light yellows or any colour in human peoples...

I think that Lemaitre could run under 9'90 but only wind assisted. He demonstrated in th past to be very regular. But he is very thin. And the start is the problem. I think that doping is the difference. Now african runners have no doping, and run less fast than european athletes. This is my misgiving. USA and Jamaican (other caraibians, mostly english speaking, very very very very few dutch, french or spanish speaking...) runners are faster than other people in the world. Not blacks or whites. People from certain states only... and in USA we see differences between "race" and sport!!! No more, or not only in the same way, in GB or France, only in USA.
 

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i say again for my stupid friends from all over the world (specialy from nordic country) white is a relative word,adam gemili is 100% caucasian!!!! i know he is not like pickering or shirvinghton,he is darker at skin but is caucasian too!!!c'mon friend why are you so stupid? of course he is not a little nazist,blond, blue eyes and white like milk,but is caucasian like borzov or lemaitre!!!but in nordic country from europe for example,marrocan people or arab people are not white (caucasian) for they are almost like black people.
 

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and if you guys love 'white' athlete's,you saw in gemili race how run christian blum for example or other german from that race,christian blum make pb 10.20 but just because he took in that race a great start,his legs are very short for a sprinter
 
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and if you guys love 'white' athlete's,you saw in gemili race how run christian blum for example or other german from that race,christian blum make pb 10.20 but just because he took in that race a great start,his legs are very short for a sprinter

Blum in that particular race got disqualified for false start after the race . I have already posted the video of the race and it's pretty obvious he false started in slow-motion. The problem of this race is the total lack of official control (sensor & time) :wink:
 

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Umm i hope that next weekend he gets first sub10 of the season and around 20 low in 200, it would be great :biggrin:
 

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Jimmy Vicaut just ran a wind legal 10.15 so Christophe will have some competition. That is a good thing in my honest opinion. His coach needs to get Christophe prepared for the Euros and the Olympics. He needs to get into his peak condition for late June to early August. Late July to ealy August is crucial as he will still be the favorite at the European Champs in the 100! I would love to see him go sub 10 & sub 20 this coming weekend but with running rounds that is asking alot.
 

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More non sense..........!

Some people in this forum call this Mongol-Arab-Turk Adam Gemili a white man, but they deny the whitness of Zidane, Sergio Martinez, Holevas, Junior Dos Santos, or Benzema?

Adam Gemili :
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/6/5/1338891166495/Adam-Gemili-008.jpg

Kostas Kenteris :
http://time-az.com/images/2011/05/20110511KostasKenteris01.jpg

They look like relatives? LOL

Ummmm, okkkkkkkkkkk!

All the names mentioned are Caucasians. Gemili is not Arab, nor Turk, nor Mongol - LOL!
He is Iranian (Persian), and Moroccan (Berber) citizen of Britian.

Maybe you are blind or wish to be, but Gemili would pass for relative to Kenteris than Shirvington as an example. Not all White people are pale with light hair and eyes.
 

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I waited more of Vicaut,only 10.15 by now...Really he should to get sub10 this year, the last year he got 10.07.
I think that Lemaitre will get sub10 this weekend, but sub20 i see it almost impossible, probably 20 low.
He wil get sub20 and perhaps sub 19.8 in OG :rockon:
 

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if adam would be a blond blue eye guy everybody will say he is next sub 10 white sprinter,he is better than pickering who was a hope and now is nothing,and will be better than shirvinghton who make that 10.03 at 19 years and than make nothing,and he is white blond,blue eyes guys!!
 

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All the names mentioned are Caucasians. Gemili is not Arab, nor Turk, nor Mongol - LOL!
He is Iranian (Persian), and Moroccan (Berber) citizen of Britian.

Maybe you are blind or wish to be, but Gemili would pass for relative to Kenteris than Shirvington as an example. Not all White people are pale with light hair and eyes.

Adam is not a Negro and that's good enough to me when it comes to the specific event (100m) that only Negroes are supposed to excel and I actually like the guy, but let's be realistic, he doesn't look like a relative with Kenteris, you are the one who's blind, OBVIOUSLY LOL :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3B20TSn2L...D0/T0M4VQ4ykQk/s1600/KENTERISK4567890--94.jpg

http://www.sigmalive.com/files/imagecache/full_image/files/node_images/8/6/7/427867/Gemili.jpg


Adam has Caucasian aka white in him for sure, but he's not a fully white man like Kenteris is. I put Adam in the same category with people like Marc Antony, Juan Manuel Marquez, George Lopez etc who obviously have a respectable amount of white in them (50-60%) but they are in no way fully white men like Kenteris, Sergio Martinez etc.
Adam is not even like Zidane or Benzema or Junior Dos Santos who must have at least 95% white blood in them.


Bottom line, Adam is not a Negro and that is all that matters in the so called (one of the very few) black "dominated" sports!

End of story, at least for me.
 

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and if he is not a full blood white man what is him,if he have 60 % white blood the rest of 40 % what is? black blood? i ask you again,why are you so stupid? he is persian and marrocan,why he is not full blood white (caucasian)man? on internet is a picture with him and his dad,who look like a full white man,i say again he is darker at skin but this dont mind he is part black!!! c'mon guys i think you are from rich and educated country,but you think like our homies from africa :))
 

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DIAMOND LEAGUE ROME 2011 (christophe) :
5.71 (1st 50M) and 4.32 (2nd 50M) = 10.03 BASIC TIME

DIAMOND LEAGUE ROME 2012 (christophe) :
5.79 (1st 50M) and 4.25 (2nd 50M) = 10.04 BASIC TIME

Christophe was never so fast on the 2nd part of race (4.25 ) !

It is fantastic because it is only the beginning of the season!
Last year his record on the 2nd part of race was in 4.27.

I think that this weekend, christophe can run under 9.90 !
 

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Yes, this will be good to watch.

Lemaitre has never raced Tyson Gay before. I can not see him beating Tyson just yet though.

Christophe has beaten everyone in the world over 100m apart from:

1. Bolt
2. Powell
3. Blake
4. Gay

Christophe has had impressive wins over high caliber athletes like Nesta Carter, Justin Gatlin and Dwain Chambers last year.

However, he has never beaten the "Big 4" and with Gatlin back to sub 9.90 performances, this could be a "Big 5". If Christophe finishes in 3rd place, then it will be all we can expect and hope for.

Remember though, Christophe is 100% natural and has to compete with all the past drugged up athletes like Justin Gatlin, Dwain Chambers, Yohan Blake (from 2009) and could have had to contend with Steve Mullings if he was not banned for life just last year.

The Steve Mullings banning was brushed quickly under the carpet, so as to not portray what is really going on in Jamaican sprinting...
 

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VERY BAD WEATHER for the french championship !

a lot of wind et rain ! :cry:

wait and see !
 

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RCSMAN hardly Lemaitre will get sun 9.9, i hope it, but i dont see it really.

For sub 9.9 he should get sub 6.5 at 60m, very hard for him.

He got 6.50 in his 9.92 +2.0 , but in his other races without big wind his time around 60m was 6.52-6.53, so i have many doubts.

In 200 im very optimistic, he will get 19.7 i think or a little bit less :happy:
 

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RCSMAN hardly Lemaitre will get sun 9.9, i hope it, but i dont see it really.

For sub 9.9 he should get sub 6.5 at 60m, very hard for him.

He got 6.50 in his 9.92 +2.0 , but in his other races without big wind his time around 60m was 6.52-6.53, so i have many doubts.

In 200 im very optimistic, he will get 19.7 i think or a little bit less :happy:

I disagree. Its his start. He works on that with right coaching and training, he will hit 9.80 and under. I believe that 100%

Christophes best starts are Bolts and Gays worst (also bad starters)

He does not know how to start and run at tops speed early in the race. He looks afraid. Give hime 2 years with the right training and coaching.
 

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elispeedster i talk this year, in the next 2 years he will get sub 9.9 sure.
Although sub 9.8 i think that is almost impossible for him in the future, although he trains , he never will be great starter.

In 200 he can to be a lot of better runner :smiley:
 

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elispeedster i talk this year, in the next 2 years he will get sub 9.9 sure.
Although sub 9.8 i think that is almost impossible for him in the future, although he trains , he never will be great starter.

In 200 he can to be a lot of better runner :smiley:
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He can improve his start and his acceleration to top speed. It can be done because he is very raw and lacks functional strength. A good trainer who knows how to develop both his strengths and weakness can have a field day molding this kid.

He will peak at 9.79 - 9.82 and 19.49

Give hime 2 years
 

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If it were up to me I would prefer he excels in the 100. There are no other european sprinters to replace him yet. We have alot more potential guys at the 200 and 400 meters. I would rather see Christophe win gold at 100 than 200. I also would rather see him go 9.60 or 9.70 than to go 19.50! Maybe it's just me but the 100 meters is the king of all track events. People always want to see the fastest man in the world. Damn would it be special if eventually it could be Christophe! My real preference is to see him continue both.

Here is another new interview. Enjoy guys.

http://athleticsillustrated.com/interviews/christophe-lemaitre-interview/
 

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100m final: saturday 4.15 pm local time / weather rain 19°C / windy 20km/h
200m final: sunday 6.05 pm local time / weather sun 20°C / light wind 10km/h

He'll probably hardly run sub 10 on saturday.
He can run 20.00 on sunday
 
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