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clerical celibacy in the Catholic Church is a discipline, not a doctrine, a discipline can be changed, a doctrine cannot be changed. It might be better for priests not to be marrried since half of marriages end in divorce and many marriages are ruined because of infidelity.Saint Paul in first corinthians chapter 7 advised the unmarried to remain unmarried.
 

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Here's an interesting Christian perspective from the past. By Pastor Bertrand Comparet. He's also an accomplished lawyer.

 

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The great French nationalist Jean-Marie Le Pen on Christianity and nationalism:

"Christ tells us to love our neighbors, not the people on the other side of the world."
 

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Some interesting facts about Christianity and its relation to anti-sodomy laws:

There are different definitions of sodomy - a Biblical one and a secular one.

The Biblical, Christian definition of sodomy comes from Leviticus 18:22-23 and defines two acts as the sin of sodomy - a man having sexual relations with another man, and a human being of either gender having sexual relations with an animal.

Most people, when asked to define sodomy, especially in regard to anti-sodomy laws, say that it is any kind of sexual relations other than traditional vaginal intercourse. This is a secular definition of sodomy and not the same as the Christian definition of sodomy laid out in the Bible.

The original anti-sodomy laws, dating from medieval times in England, becoming English Common Law, and later descended into American Common Law, were based on the Biblical definition of it and specifically forbade those two acts - same-sex sexual relations and sexual relations between a human and an animal. "Anti-sodomy" laws banning things like oral sex were added later, when the law was changed to a secular definition of what "sodomy" was.

Why was the law changed this way? Who changed it?

It was leftists who changed these laws.

Leftists knew that they could never gain popular support for overturning anti-sodomy laws based on the Biblical definition, because the vast majority of the people were rightly disgusted by those two acts (same-sex relations and sex with animals). So they deliberately and nefariously changed the law to a much broader definition, one that could infringe on the sexual activities of married heterosexual couples, to gain the support of normal heterosexual people in getting the law repealed - a law that the leftists created in the first place.

Anti-Christians, mostly on the political Left, but some on the Right as well, have used the myth of "Christianity be bad because it be restricting da rights of what husbands and wives can do in da bedroom" to bash and scapegoat Christians as "sexual fascists" or "wanting a policeman in the bedroom with you and your wife." These are blatantly false, vicious, and libelous accusations. The anti-sodomy laws that libertarians and moderates get outraged over were based on a definition of sodomy that was purely secular. Not only that, but it was the cucks' beloved leftists who created those laws in the first place!

I have a certain level of sympathy for libertarianism myself, but I just wanted to make this issue clear, as I've seen so many right-leaning libertarians who have a lot of intelligence on other issues fall flat on their faces on this one because of an ignorant or misguided belief in this anti-Christian myth.

To see who really wants to put a policeman in every bedroom, look to your left.
 
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The great French nationalist Jean-Marie Le Pen on Christianity and nationalism:

"Christ tells us to love our neighbors, not the people on the other side of the world."
Someone should've really asked Christ to clarify what He meant by "neighbor." I'm curious about what He would've said.
 

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Someone should've really asked Christ to clarify what He meant by "neighbor." I'm curious about what He would've said.

Someone did ask it, and He answered it. In Luke chapter 10:

27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”

29 But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32 Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’ 36 So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”

37 And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”

Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
 
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Someone did ask it, and He answered it. In Luke chapter 10:

27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”

29 But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32 Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’ 36 So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”

37 And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”

Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
Yeah that was kinda my point, sorry, gotta do a better job of communicating sarcasm over the internet. My bad
 

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Someone did ask it, and He answered it. In Luke chapter 10:

27 So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

28 And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”

29 But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31 Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32 Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’ 36 So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”

37 And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”

Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
Right BFU. Those were the verses I was going to use.
Jesus Loves all people as we should. Although it's difficult for us to do so. We can when we focus on Jesus and what he did for ALL of humanity. This Friday commemorates what Christ did for the forgiveness of our sin. He died for us that we would be spared the punishment for our sin.
"rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death even on the cross. Philippians 2:7-8.
But thankfully that wasn't the end. On the third day Christ rose from the tomb. and saying, "It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon. Luke 24:34.
NO other religion makes this claim. Only the Christian faith.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO man comes to the father, but by me. John 14:6. You're going to Heaven through the shed blood and then the resurrection of The Lord Jesus Christ or you're not going at all. The Bible says those who've not confessed and trusted in Jesus Christ will spend an eternity separated from God in a place called Hell. "In Hell where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. Luke 16:23. If you don't know Christ as your Lord and Savior, I would advise picking up a Bible and asking him to save you. He will if you confess your sin and put your trust in him.
 

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Right BFU. Those were the verses I was going to use.
Jesus Loves all people as we should. Although it's difficult for us to do so. We can when we focus on Jesus and what he did for ALL of humanity. This Friday commemorates what Christ did for the forgiveness of our sin. He died for us that we would be spared the punishment for our sin.
"rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death even on the cross. Philippians 2:7-8.
But thankfully that wasn't the end. On the third day Christ rose from the tomb. and saying, "It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon. Luke 24:34.
NO other religion makes this claim. Only the Christian faith.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO man comes to the father, but by me. John 14:6. You're going to Heaven through the shed blood and then the resurrection of The Lord Jesus Christ or you're not going at all. The Bible says those who've not confessed and trusted in Jesus Christ will spend an eternity separated from God in a place called Hell. "In Hell where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. Luke 16:23. If you don't know Christ as your Lord and Savior, I would advise picking up a Bible and asking him to save you. He will if you confess your sin and put your trust in him.
Thanks Carolina Speed, for summing up the truth about this upcoming Sunday, the Day we celebrate the most fantastic thing in history: the resurrection of the only Savior of mankind and the GREAT news of the free gift of salvation. God bless!
 

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For those of us who are Christians, I'm sure we've all had to hear something like this at some point.

If someone tries to use something like this on you, ask if they are a Christian. If they say they are not, point out that as a non-Christian they are ignorant about what Christianity is, and have no standing to define it.

And if they say they are a Christian, tell them that according to their own beliefs they are required to love their enemies, so they need to start loving you and stop attacking you.
 
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