Brian Hartline

[Don Wassall]

When Hartline was drafted the Dolphins DWFs were upset. Then he had an "unexpectedly" good rookie season being pretty much their best receiver by season's end and showing big play ability. ButHartline still garners little respect, as this sneer from Rotoworld attests (with Greg Camarillo also included in the fun). When does a black receiver who does well in his rookie season get trashed like this?
The Dolphins are shopping WR/KR Ted Ginn, according to NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora. Expected to eventually emerge as a dangerous playmaker and No. 1 receiver, Ginn has instead fallen behind mediocre talents Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, and Greg Camarillo. One of the most drop-plagued receivers in the NFL, Ginn is best used as a situational deep threat and explosive kickoff returner. The Dolphins shouldn't expect more than a mid-round pick in return for the Cam Cameron era's first-round swing-and-miss.

 

[Tom Iron]

Don,

I bet Belickick is listening and watching closely. I can just see him offering to take the "bum" off their hands

He'd just love to pull another Welker type swindle on them.

Tom Iron...

Tom Iron...

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Ted Ginn is no Wes Welker, not even close. I doubt any team will be able to do a lot with Ginn. He just doesn't seem to have what it takes at the pro level.

 

[celticdb15]

Ted Ginn is no Wes Welker, not even close. I doubt any team will be able to do a lot with Ginn. He just doesn't seem to have what it takes at the pro level.

I think he was refferring to Hartline??

 

[Kaptain]

Looks like Brandon Marshall is going to the Dolphins. Well, the Dolphins had to do something as their recieving corp was becoming way too white. He also may be the highest paid reciever in the bizzaro league.

 

[backrow]

i wonder if that effectively blocks Camarillo from getting on the field. Hartline is probably safe (at the very least) as a slot receiver.

 

[Don Wassall]

If the Dolphins get rid of Ginn, Hartline has a chance to thrive as the team's number two receiver. Of course, this being the NFL that's probably a wildly optimistic assessment.

 

[White Power]

No Ginn is on the trading block. Hartline is scheduled to start with Brandon Marshall. When they go to 4 wides it will be Marshall, Hartline, Camarillo,and Bess. Along with Fasano remaining the starting tight end.Edited by: White Power

 

[backrow]

Ginn has been traded to 49ers.

 

[White Power]

Now Hartline is the starter. I told everyone that Ginn was as good as gone finally I am right.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Now Hartline is the starter. I told everyone that Ginn was as good as gone finally I am right.

Hartline is the starter as of now. We still don't know what the Dolphins will do in the draft. They might pick up a few wr's and things could change really fast. At least the over rated Ginn is gone. He can't hold on to the ball for his life.

 

[Don Wassall]

Hartline gets some props in this article and accompanying video. I've now just read two articles today, one comparing Jordy Nelson to Miles Austin, and one praising Hartline where he isn't compared to another White receiver. Maybe just maybe the ingrained racism toward White receivers is beginning to change a bit.

An Ideal Compliment to Brandon Marshall

I'm going to present two batches of statistics for the Miami Dolphins fan base, and the world to dissect.



Before Itell everyonethe names, and the breakdowns of who these individuals are, or what offense they work in, just look at the numbers.


Individual No. 1: 45 receptions, 680 yards, 15.1 yards per catch,four touchdowns in 15 starts (with two different teams).


THEN


Individual No. 2: 31 receptions, 506 yards, 16.3 yards per catch, andfour touchdowns (one rushing) in a season where he started just two games.


Drum roll please"¦..


The first receiver is New York Jets wide out Braylon Edwards, a talented but still unpolished fifth-year veteran, who is becoming fairly expensive, and has a little bit of diva in him.


The second receiver is Miami DolphinsreceiverBrian Hartline, a smart and savvy youngster from Ohio State, who is coming offan impressiverookie season where he split time with four other receivers.


Hartline works fairlycheap (base salary is less than $400,000 in 2010), doesn't have much of an ego (yet"¦it's never too late),and it appears he has plenty of upside, especially with newly acquired "Alpha Dog"Â￾ receiver Brandon Marshall lined up across from him.


If you don't believeHartlinehasthe goodsI encourage you to check out some of the athletic catches he made last season around the 4 minute-mark of this Dolphins highlight video, which certainly got me excited about the playmakers on the team in the Marshall era.
full article: http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2010/04/an-ideal-complement-to-brandon-marshall.html

 

[FootballDad]

Ginn has been traded to 49ers.

Ted Ginn (along with Darius Heyward-Bey) are poster boys for the screwed-up thinking that is the result of the Caste system. He's got the "look" and the "body type", and "you can't teach speed" (all boloney) things going on, but he's what he's always been. A fast guy with hands of stone. They get drafted in the first round, even though they can't do the base job of a receiver, that is, catch the ball. I'll bet it's easier to get someone to take .20 off of their 40 time than it is to change a guy into a reliable receiver.

Ginn is exactly the player he was in college, he's a really good return guy and a marginal, at best, receiver. Never is a guy like this worth a first round pick.
Now look at Brian Hartline, he's almost as fast as Ginn straight-line, but with superior agility and similar size. And he can catch anything thrown to him. Yet Hartline gets drafted bottom-of-the-barrel and makes peanuts, while the "flashy" afflete gets undeserved million$.

 

[Borussia]

Overall, Dolphin fans are happy that Ginn is gone. A bust and remnant from the Cam Cameron days. Ginn's softness, butter hands, and lack of development was his downfall. As well as he basically just sucks.

As for Brandon Marshall, the DWFs are happy because he is a name and they worship what the media informs them. Marshall upgrades the position and now the Dolphins will likely address the safety and NT position in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
What does this mean for fan favorites Hartline and Camarillo?
Good question. Hartline had a very solid rookie year and Parcells sees him as his slot guy or 3rd down 'possession' WR (yes, he will be caste fitted). Hartline should have a productive and quality 8-10 year career and then go into broadcasting or coaching. Barring major injuries, I think he could be like Art Monk or Steve Largent.

Camarillo will be the 5th and likely last WR they keep on roster. However, I get the feeling that Camarillo is on a shorter leash with less room for error. Knee injury and surgery last year and Parcells is all about production.
If Camarillo shows stuff in preseason and camp, they will keep him. If not, they may dump him. I don't think he's a lock at this point.

Devon Bess is safe, then there's this 78 IQ simpleton from USC who 'had an amazing camp last year' but didn't dress for any games because he allegedly couldn't pick up the playbook and understand the system.
Forget his name and I just work up..

Well, maybe this bodes well for Chan Henne. He is the Dolphins QB and he will need some weapons to properly shine. He's still raw, but fans have high hopes for Henne.

Hartline is well liked here. Let's hope he can continue to get throws and be productive. Oh, he can return punts too.

 

[White Power]

I think Hartline is safe as the starter because of the Marshall trade. The Dolphins aren't in need of a wide receiver right now. However they are very high on Eric Decker that would be nice.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Hopefully Camarillo will only fall to 4th WR & be in there in 4 WR sets & occasionally other times for Bess. If I were coach, I'd start Marshall & Hartline on the outside, w/ Bess in the slot & than sub in 4th WR Camarillo a bit for Bess in the slot. IMO Bess fits better in the slot than Camarillo because of his size & style. If Camarillo is recovered he still could be a good WR & be a #2 WR again for some team in the future.

 

[Don Wassall]

Hopefully Camarillo will only fall to 4th WR & be in there in 4 WR sets & occasionally other times for Bess. If I were coach, I'd start Marshall & Hartline on the outside, w/ Bess in the slot & than sub in 4th WR Camarillo a bit for Bess in the slot. IMO Bess fits better in the slot than Camarillo because of his size & style. If Camarillo is recovered he still could be a good WR & be a #2 WR again for some team in the future.

Others see it the same as you, TJR:

Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald predicts that Brian Hartline will win the Dolphins' starting receiver job opposite Brandon Marshall. Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel predicts the same. We tend to agree with them, although Hartline winning the job doesn't mean he'll outproduce slot receiver Davone Bess. As a rookie, Hartline exhibited solid possession skills (just three drops in 54 targets) in addition to surprising vertical ability (16.3 YPC). He'll battle Greg Camarillo this summer.

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Bess is a pretty good slot WR, but DEFINITELY NOT AS GOOD as Welker. Don, I think Camarillo is a better outside WR than Bess, but not as good as Hartline on the outside.

Hopefully, Camarillo is fully recovered and will get some good playing time this year and become a starter again sometime in the near future for some team.

 

[Don Wassall]

I like Camarillo, but he, like Anthony Gonzalez, is seen by many as non-white, so if one of the Dolphins receivers has to be "sacrificed" I'd much rather it be Camarillo. Anyway, Hartline is a better talent than Camarillo, he has the speed and everything else it takes to be a starting outside receiver.

 

[Don Wassall]

Given his pigmentation and the "taboo" position he plays, Hartline might have thrown away his opportunity to be a starter if it turns out he was driving:


<H1>FHP: Truck belonging to Dolphins player Brian Hartline found abandoned after I-595 crash </H1>


A pickup truck belonging to Miami Dolphins wide receiver Brian Hartline was found abandoned after a crash on Interstate 595 earlier this month, the Florida Highway Patrol reports.


FHP is investigating who was driving the 2008 Ford pickup truck at the time of the 4:30 a.m. July 3 crash. The vehicle had to be towed away.


According to authorities, the pickup truck collided with an abandoned 2002 Cadillac Escalade on Interstate 595 just east of Interstate 95.


"His vehicle ran off road and hit the parked car," said FHP Sgt. Mark Wysocky. "We don't know who was driving the vehicle."


According to an FHP report, a trooper went to Hartline's home in Fort Lauderdale after the crash and spoke with a guest who was staying there. The woman at the home told the trooper to contact Hartline's wife, who was in California. When troopers left a message with her, a call was returned by Hartline's attorney, who told authorities that Brian Hartline was not injured.



The report states that troopers have not heard from Hartline regarding the crash.


Hartline could not be reached for comment Tuesday, despite a telephone message left at his home.
full article: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-brian-hartline-crash-20100713,0,2006353.story?track=rss

 

[Kaptain]

Not good news. Strange that a woman was staying at his Florida home while his wife was in California. Of course if he were a black reciever this would be nothing but personal problem and wouldn't affect his job.

 

[whiteCB]

Yeah having your attorney call back the authorities for you is never a good sign. Hartline probably ditched the car, called a cab, and headed straight to a neutral location; just anyplace but his house where he knew law enforcement would come. Also knowing where that crash took place and the time it took place, 4:30 am, Hartline was probably coming home a bit "tipsy" from some South Beach Club/Bar. Nothing good ever happens in South Beach after midnight. From drunk driving, to blacking out, to sleeping with an STD infested person its all bad on Collins Ave.

 

[White Power]

Spoken like someone who has walked the walk LOL.

 

[icsept]

If he never admits he was driving the car and there were no eyewitnesses to the accident...then there's no case. The problem is he won't be able to get his car out of impound as long as the investigation is pending. Edited by: icsept

 

[Westside]

Right icsept, if this happened in Ca the police would not have any case what so ever. No eyewitnesses to him driving right up to the accident. Any attorney worth his weight would be able to give him. Furthermore, not many law enforcement agencies would file charges on him.

I suspect the Brain's story will be "I was going home and meet a person at a bar. He or she drove me to a friends home. I let him or her use the car. I forget their name or address...sorry. I think I done answering any further questions! "