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It sounds like Tavaris is ticked-off! That's great.. I love it!! A REAL man will be showing you how QBing is supposed to be done!
bigunreal said:I just hope Toby Gerhart doesn't drop any passes from Favre. We all remember how he reacted when Bill Schroeder did. If the Vikings don't start out strong, or Favre finally shows his age, look for all the latent hostility towards him to explode at some point, especially from all the black players on the roster.
Kaptain Poop said:He's almost 41. He can take his time. Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps he doesn't enjoy hanging with the young bruthas at training camp? I don't blame him.
Kaptain Poop said:I love it! Three white guys going out and getting one of the best QBs of all time - surely much to the chagrin of their black teammates. I used to hate Farve for yelling at Schroeder, but I didn't watch a lot of the Packers games - it may have only happened once. And lets face it, yelling at black players is not allowed. Coaches don't even dare do it even when a black player is dressing them down.
Don Wassall said:<div></div>Kaptain Poop said:I love it! Three white guys going out and getting one of the best QBs of all time - surely much to the chagrin of their black teammates. I used to hate Farve for yelling at Schroeder, but I didn't watch a lot of the Packers games - it may have only happened once. And lets face it, yelling at black players is not allowed. Coaches don't even dare do it even when a black player is dressing them down.
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<div>After Brandon Jacobs nearly got Peyton Manning seriously injured the other night when he missed Manning changing the play from a run to a pass, there was a quick shot of Jacobs yelling at Tom Coughlin while Coughlin looked away from him. My guess is that Coughlin, who is what passes these days for a "tough" coach, tried to dress down Jacobs only to have Jacobs snap at him. </div>
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<div>The book "Three Bricks Shy of a Load" written nearly 40 years ago by Roy Blount mentioned how Chuck Noll treated black players on the Steelers much more gingerly than he did White ones. That era (early '70s) was still early on in the Permanent Cultural Revolution. Now the racial dynamics -- and demographics -- of NFL resemble a cross between an antebellum Southern plantation and a supermax prison. Black playerschimping out -- at teammates and coaches alike -- is just another part of doing business in a league that is a giant and permanentaffirmative action project. The only coach I can recall actually not taking it from a black player is Todd Haley, when he told Anquan Boldin to shut up a couple of years ago.</div>
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<div>BTW, regarding the Eli Manning play, did anyone else notice how the media focused almost exclusively on the very bloody cut on Eli's forehead rather than the pertinent part of the play, which was Bart Scott's vicious hit in the back? Not saying it was a dirtyhit but I thought " bad concussion" or "back injury" when it happened. The cut from Eli hitting Jim Leonhard's helmet after Scott's hitwas nothing by comparison, just a scrape. Fortunately Eli is built of the same Iron Man material as his big brother.</div>
Don Wassall said:<div></div>bigunreal said:I just hope Toby Gerhart doesn't drop any passes from Favre. We all remember how he reacted when Bill Schroeder did. If the Vikings don't start out strong, or Favre finally shows his age, look for all the latent hostility towards him to explode at some point, especially from all the black players on the roster.
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<div>Favre yelled at Schroeder one time, after he alligator-armed a ball. This idea that he singled Schroeder out every time he dropped a ball isn't accurate. I recall watching interviews of Brett after games when he specifically praised Bill (calling him "Billy"), and there was a lot to praise. Schroeder had 1,051 receiving yards in 1999, 999 yards in 2000, and 918 in 2001, when he missed two games because of injury. So he came within 1 yard in '00 and two healthy games in '01 of having three straight thousand yard seasons with Favre throwing him the ball. Only McCaffrey and Welker have had a better run over three seasons among White receivers in the past quarter century. Schroeder was irrationally despised by both the media and the DWFs, but to add Favre as one of the haters isn't fair.</div>
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<div>The contingent of three White players going to recruit Favre is interesting, coming on top of the racial harassment of Gerhart and the Whites-only "hazing" ritual on some teams of forced haircuts. Anything that shines a light on elements of the league's racial dynamics is a good thing, especially in the age of Obama with more and more Whites getting fed up with the racial double standards and whining. </div>
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<div>As for Brett, I'm glad I'm not among the contingent that criticizes everything he does. Favre or "T-Jax"? Not a choice at all. An all-time great White quarterback still going strong in his 40s? Love it. Lots of media coverage for Favre at the expense of any number of black stars? I'll take it every time. "Retire" every year and then come back, soap opera style? Far better than him retiring for good. I hope he kicks ass on the field again this year.</div>
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Don Wassall said:<div></div>Kaptain Poop said:I love it! Three white guys going out and getting one of the best QBs of all time - surely much to the chagrin of their black teammates. I used to hate Farve for yelling at Schroeder, but I didn't watch a lot of the Packers games - it may have only happened once. And lets face it, yelling at black players is not allowed. Coaches don't even dare do it even when a black player is dressing them down.ÂÂÂ
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<div>After Brandon Jacobs nearly got Peyton Manning seriously injured the other night when he missed Manning changing the play from a run to a pass, there was a quick shot of Jacobs yelling at Tom Coughlin while Coughlin looked away from him. My guess is that Coughlin, who is what passes these days for a "tough" coach, tried to dress down Jacobs only to have Jacobs snap at him. </div>
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The book "Three Bricks Shy of a Load" written nearly 40 years ago by Roy Blount mentioned how Chuck Noll treated black players on the Steelers much more gingerly than he did White ones. That era (early '70s) was still early on in the Permanent Cultural Revolution. Now the racial dynamics -- and demographics -- of NFL resemble a cross between an antebellum Southern plantation and a supermax prison. Black players chimping out -- at teammates and coaches alike -- is just another part of doing business in a league that is a giant and permanent affirmative action project. The only coach I can recall actually not taking it from a black player is Todd Haley, when he told Anquan Boldin to shut up a couple of years ago.</div>
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<div>BTW, regarding the Eli Manning play, did anyone else notice how the media focused almost exclusively on the very bloody cut on Eli's forehead rather than the pertinent part of the play, which was Bart Scott's vicious hit in the back? Not saying it was a dirty hit but I thought " bad concussion" or "back injury" when it happened. The cut from Eli hitting Jim Leonhard's helmet after Scott's hit was nothing by comparison, just a scrape. Fortunately Eli is built of the same Iron Man material as his big brother.</div>
Westside said:Ok this needs to be stated. Bret is in the HOF, his legacy is layed. All he is playing for now is additional glory, rings and big dollar.
If there is unfair or outright vicious hazing against TG, I would expect Bret to point it out and help in putting an end to it. What does he have to lose? Nothing! He is on the gravy train, he knows it and the Team knows he is the "Man" that will be a big factor in attaining a victory in a SB.
I would imagine if there was unfair hazing against TG, Bret would tell the affelets, "What the f**k you are you doing!" And it would stop. Looking for TG to tear it up come Sundays.
Don, that interesting that you say you were not racially aware until early adulthood. I was racially aware when the Gaints started Rob Carpenter in the playoffs in the early 80s as a teen. I remember how he kicked ass when ever Earl Campbell was injured, and wondered how he would perform if he was a starter. I think for a couple years he did well for the Giants. I always counted which team had the more whites, and subsequently rooted for that team. The Broncos always had a large number of white players and stars, they were my team, after the white dominated Rams during the 79 and 80 seasons.
Don Wassall said: I was pretty much a DWF during the Steelers great run in the '70s; I didn't become racially aware until I was in law school in the early '80s.
whiteCB said:Don Wassall said:I was pretty much a DWF during the Steelers great run in the '70s; I didn't become racially aware until I was in law school in the early '80s.
What woke you up in law school Don? I know its probably a pretty long answer but a quick synopsis would be nice. lol
Westside said:Don, that interesting that you say you were not racially aware until early adulthood. I was racially aware when the Gaints started Rob Carpenter in the playoffs in the early 80s as a teen. I remember how he kicked ass when ever Earl Campbell was injured, and wondered how he would perform if he was a starter. I think for a couple years he did well for the Giants. I always counted which team had the more whites, and subsequently rooted for that team. The Broncos always had a large number of white players and stars, they were my team, after the white dominated Rams during the 79 and 80 seasons.