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Maybe both situations involving Ben were set ups,to start the process of bringing down the "great White hope"quarterbacks in pro football,the media and DWF's are already demonizing Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford.
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Well, the steeler's first six games are going to be interesting anyway.
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I remember reading something interesting when Kobe Bryant was charged with rape several years ago. Some DWFs threatened the life of the woman who accused Bryant.
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Wouldn't surprise me at all. A few movies have parodied this attitude. Also the Gunther Plaut stabbing was the craziest example of this.
The Orwellian witch hunt continues. Not even charged with a crime yet suspended for over a third of a season, with the loss of millions of dollars in income.
This is from ESPN's latest article on Big Ben: Roethlisberger was cleared of charges, but commissioner Roger Goodell cracked down on one of his biggest stars because "you are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville [Ga.] that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league of the expectations of our fans."
Held to a higher standard in a league filled with thugs and players who have been charged and convicted of serious crimes? What a joke. Ben apparently had consensual sex in a club, not the smartest thing to do but something that he was aware black players do on a regular basis. He, like Matt Jones, has learned the hard way that there isn't just a double standard for black and white players, but a yawning chasm far beyond that standard definition.
Ben has no choice but to contritely accept his suspension because not to do so would enrage the DWFs and media caste clowns even more. This link has a video of the oh-so smug Mark Schlereth
carrying on and on as if Ben is the worst criminal in the league. The same page also has a blog by a black writer saying Ben is "down to his last strike." Never even charged with a crime yet down to his last strike.I guess we can now expect black NFL players who go to clubs and drink and hit on chicks to beraked over the coals and suspended as well. Amazing stuff.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5137459Edited by: Don Wassall
This is from ESPN's latest article on Big Ben: Roethlisberger was cleared of charges, but commissioner Roger Goodell cracked down on one of his biggest stars because "you are held to a higher standard as an NFL player, and there is nothing about your conduct in Milledgeville [Ga.] that can remotely be described as admirable, responsible, or consistent with either the values of the league of the expectations of our fans."
Held to a higher standard in a league filled with thugs and players who have been charged and convicted of serious crimes? What a joke. Ben apparently had consensual sex in a club, not the smartest thing to do but something that he was aware black players do on a regular basis. He, like Matt Jones, has learned the hard way that there isn't just a double standard for black and white players, but a yawning chasm far beyond that standard definition.
Ben has no choice but to contritely accept his suspension because not to do so would enrage the DWFs and media caste clowns even more. This link has a video of the oh-so smug Mark Schlereth
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5137459Edited by: Don Wassall
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Remember the outrage when Convick was suspended and jailed? Blacks were furious and demanded that he be reinstated. Wasn't it Jesse Jackson who threatened to sue or stage a boycott? Even many of the DWF's wanted Mikey Convick back. All he did was kill dozens of dogs and run an illegal operation. Then he won some stupid "courage" award on top of all that. How many whites have expressed outrage over this suspension when Ben hasn't even been convicted of a crime? The answer is pretty clear. Even buffoons like Terry Bradshaw went against him. Bradshaw never had the balls to go against any of these affletes whose action were 1000 times worse. How stupid can white people really be?
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The affletes are piling on Big Ben too...
Roethlisberger wasn't a popular Steeler, even before all this
By MJD
Some former Pittsburgh Steelers teammates are kicking Ben Roethlisberger(notes) while he's down, telling ESPN that Roethlisberger wasn't well-liked in the locker room while they were there.
Kelly Naqi did a story for ESPN's "Outside the Lines" this weekend, focusing on Roethlisberger's image and reputation. She talked to former Steelers running back Najeh Davenport(notes), former Steelers safety about Mike Logan(notes), and some other people around the area. Here are some of the highlights.
"¢ Davenport estimated that about 60 percent of the locker room felt like Roethlisberger thought he was "bigger than the team," and not focused on winning.
"¢ Davenport also discussed a time when Joey Porter(notes) called out Roethlisberger in a team meeting for being the last one in to practice and the first one to leave. Porter also accused Roethlisberger of not being dedicated to the team, and criticized him for not fraternizing with his teammates.
"¢ Mike Logan confirmed the incident where Porter addressed Roethlisberger, and said that all the things Porter mentioned were already being talked about in the locker room.
"¢ Someone identified only as "a close friend of a Steelers player" said that the reason Roethlisberger had a bodyguard was because of an incident where a man put a gun to Roethlisberger's head because Roethlisberger was involved with the man's girlfriend.
"¢ Naqi spoke with people who work at Pittsburgh bars and nightclubs, and they described Ben as someone who was condescending to the staffs and rude to other customers. One bar owner said Roethlisberger always expected he and his entourage to be given free food and drinks.
Roethlisberger wouldn't talk to ESPN for the story, and neither would Joey Porter. Roethlisberger did release a statement today about his suspension, though, apologizing to his teammates and fans and vowing to comply with the terms of the suspension.
This is the kind of report that wouldn't ever see the light of day if there weren't some other dastardly story about the guy. That's not to say that it isn't true -- Kelly Naqi's a fine reporter -- but is it a big deal? Should we care?
After all, no one said anything about Roethlisberger-related locker room troubles when the Steelers were winning Super Bowls. Maybe this is just a mountain-out-of-a-molehill thing that surfaces now, because it's convenient and fits the "Roethlisberger as dirtball" narrative.
If there's any practical issue here, I think it's this: If Roethlisberger has to mend some fences in the Steelers locker room, perhaps it'll be even tougher than expected. If someone didn't like him before the sexual assault allegations, it's hard to imagine they'll warm up to the guy now, no matter what he does.
We'll just have to wait and see how that plays out. Locker rooms have been divided over less.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Roethlisberger-wasn-t-a-popular-Steeler-even-be?urn=nfl,236615
Edited by: DixieDestroyer
Roethlisberger wasn't a popular Steeler, even before all this
By MJD
Some former Pittsburgh Steelers teammates are kicking Ben Roethlisberger(notes) while he's down, telling ESPN that Roethlisberger wasn't well-liked in the locker room while they were there.
Kelly Naqi did a story for ESPN's "Outside the Lines" this weekend, focusing on Roethlisberger's image and reputation. She talked to former Steelers running back Najeh Davenport(notes), former Steelers safety about Mike Logan(notes), and some other people around the area. Here are some of the highlights.
"¢ Davenport estimated that about 60 percent of the locker room felt like Roethlisberger thought he was "bigger than the team," and not focused on winning.
"¢ Davenport also discussed a time when Joey Porter(notes) called out Roethlisberger in a team meeting for being the last one in to practice and the first one to leave. Porter also accused Roethlisberger of not being dedicated to the team, and criticized him for not fraternizing with his teammates.
"¢ Mike Logan confirmed the incident where Porter addressed Roethlisberger, and said that all the things Porter mentioned were already being talked about in the locker room.
"¢ Someone identified only as "a close friend of a Steelers player" said that the reason Roethlisberger had a bodyguard was because of an incident where a man put a gun to Roethlisberger's head because Roethlisberger was involved with the man's girlfriend.
"¢ Naqi spoke with people who work at Pittsburgh bars and nightclubs, and they described Ben as someone who was condescending to the staffs and rude to other customers. One bar owner said Roethlisberger always expected he and his entourage to be given free food and drinks.
Roethlisberger wouldn't talk to ESPN for the story, and neither would Joey Porter. Roethlisberger did release a statement today about his suspension, though, apologizing to his teammates and fans and vowing to comply with the terms of the suspension.
This is the kind of report that wouldn't ever see the light of day if there weren't some other dastardly story about the guy. That's not to say that it isn't true -- Kelly Naqi's a fine reporter -- but is it a big deal? Should we care?
After all, no one said anything about Roethlisberger-related locker room troubles when the Steelers were winning Super Bowls. Maybe this is just a mountain-out-of-a-molehill thing that surfaces now, because it's convenient and fits the "Roethlisberger as dirtball" narrative.
If there's any practical issue here, I think it's this: If Roethlisberger has to mend some fences in the Steelers locker room, perhaps it'll be even tougher than expected. If someone didn't like him before the sexual assault allegations, it's hard to imagine they'll warm up to the guy now, no matter what he does.
We'll just have to wait and see how that plays out. Locker rooms have been divided over less.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Roethlisberger-wasn-t-a-popular-Steeler-even-be?urn=nfl,236615
Edited by: DixieDestroyer
Pure jealousy. I remember a Pittsburgh radio talk show host who disliked Jerome Bettis saying back in Ben's rookie year that Bettis hatedRoethlisberger because his instant success took away some of the media limelight from "The Bus."
Mike Tomlin is probably among the Ben haters as well. After all he's not much older than the players and he obviously favors blacks over whites big time. The bringing in of nothing but black QBs and the team not drafting any white players of note every year is a good indication of his mindset.
Mike Tomlin is probably among the Ben haters as well. After all he's not much older than the players and he obviously favors blacks over whites big time. The bringing in of nothing but black QBs and the team not drafting any white players of note every year is a good indication of his mindset.
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Mathew J. Darnell (MJD) is an anti-white wacko toolbag. He wrote that article for Yahooligan Rivals "Free Keiland Williams"- complaining that Jacob Hester was being shown favoritism. It probably didn't shut him up that LSU won the championship that year with Hester or that Joseph Addai had a virtually equal senior year to Hester and now Charles Scott had a worse one this year.
Recently he wrote the "Chris Henry Could Have Been a Role Model" (LMFAO) article, this and multiple others. Not surprising he edits the Yahooligan white Rivals NFL blog- as I'm yet to see a more anti-white writer.
Recently he wrote the "Chris Henry Could Have Been a Role Model" (LMFAO) article, this and multiple others. Not surprising he edits the Yahooligan white Rivals NFL blog- as I'm yet to see a more anti-white writer.
This is just another indication of how life in Don King's America will be-a subhuman cretin like Najeh Davenpoop being quoted as some kind of authority on the shortcomings of another player. For those who don't remember, this savage took a dump in some college girl's closet.
Big Ben, as I noted, was one of the few white players who had the respect of most DWFs and black players alike. After all, after two Super Bowl victories, he was a "winnner." There is nothing the DWFs and jock sniffers hold more in esteem than that. But, the slightest crack in the armour of the biggest white star is enough to allow all that anti-white hatred to break through.
This coming season, Big Ben will know what David Carr, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Heath Shuler and so many other white QBs felt like, as he struggles under enormous pressure to play mistake-free football. His every interception-even his every incompletion-will result in an eruption of DWF booing and taunting, and demands that one of his black backups replace him.
I never really liked Big Ben before, but he is being made into a real scapegoat here, and suffering from the typical double standard.
Big Ben, as I noted, was one of the few white players who had the respect of most DWFs and black players alike. After all, after two Super Bowl victories, he was a "winnner." There is nothing the DWFs and jock sniffers hold more in esteem than that. But, the slightest crack in the armour of the biggest white star is enough to allow all that anti-white hatred to break through.
This coming season, Big Ben will know what David Carr, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Heath Shuler and so many other white QBs felt like, as he struggles under enormous pressure to play mistake-free football. His every interception-even his every incompletion-will result in an eruption of DWF booing and taunting, and demands that one of his black backups replace him.
I never really liked Big Ben before, but he is being made into a real scapegoat here, and suffering from the typical double standard.
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Ben R. may have felt that he could behave like his fellow players and get away with it. This reminds me of the white free agents who sign with a team without considering whether they will get the needed playing time.
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Ben should know that he is held to much higher standards than his nearly all-black teammates.
This article has over 3,300 comments after it at last look:
Roethlisberger Down to Last Strike
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/12516/roethlisberger-down-to-last-strike
I posted the following comment this morning: "He's down to his last strike but hasn't even been accused of a crime. This is completely about race. The NFL and media need a prominent white player to 'racially balance' all the black criminals in the league. It's Cultural Marxist, anti-white b.s."
When I checked back an hour or so later it had been taken down (censored) by those fair-minded folks at ESPN.
Roethlisberger Down to Last Strike
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/12516/roethlisberger-down-to-last-strike
I posted the following comment this morning: "He's down to his last strike but hasn't even been accused of a crime. This is completely about race. The NFL and media need a prominent white player to 'racially balance' all the black criminals in the league. It's Cultural Marxist, anti-white b.s."
When I checked back an hour or so later it had been taken down (censored) by those fair-minded folks at ESPN.
This is rerun of the faux scandal that involved Titans Collins, but on a much larger scale. If I am Ben F the Coalminers and seek employement else where. Surely there are teams that want a proven winner, aren't there?
Great Post Don. Cystal Clear, succint and to the point!
Great Post Don. Cystal Clear, succint and to the point!
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Spot on post, Don.But of course ESPN doesn't think so.
Anyway, reading the article that Dixie posted again, why would Ben want to hang out with guys like Porter, Holmes, or Davepoop? I've also had one of my DWF friend call him "Rapistberger." I told him Ben wasn't even charged, but like all DWFs, he's bullheaded.Edited by: Jack Lambert
Anyway, reading the article that Dixie posted again, why would Ben want to hang out with guys like Porter, Holmes, or Davepoop? I've also had one of my DWF friend call him "Rapistberger." I told him Ben wasn't even charged, but like all DWFs, he's bullheaded.Edited by: Jack Lambert
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Don Wassall said:
They always censor the truth.
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I think that the Steelers should just get rid of this terrible "criminal" right away. He'd be a good fit for "Black Jack" Del Rio's crew in Blacksonville, and can oust dink-and-dunk Gerrard. He'd also be much closer to his party towns
. I might have suggested Tampa Bay, but no way would Raheem play a white guy over his "supa" QB's.
Then the Steelers can continue to go coal-black and we can enjoy watching Dixon, Leftwich, and Batch make innumerable errors while dragging Tomlin's group to the abyss of mediocrity.
Then the Steelers can continue to go coal-black and we can enjoy watching Dixon, Leftwich, and Batch make innumerable errors while dragging Tomlin's group to the abyss of mediocrity.
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Don Wassall said:
I live in PA, but several hundred miles from Pittsburg. It doesn't seem to matter where white men are located within the state of PA, as jock-huffing white losers (even ones living in the most white and rural locations) all swear allegiance to their "home teams," the Eagles and the Steelers. I can attest to Don's statement that their DWFs are perhaps the worst in America"¦with the exception of maybe the Raiders or the Redskins.
It takes a truly wretched sort of white man to wear the football uniform of a black millionaire athlete. I've always likened this vomit- inducing behavior to the way my high school girlfriend would wear my opposite color jersey during my football games (like a little personal cheerleader). Nevertheless, somewhere deep within their maggot-infested brain cells, supporting a football corporation which happens to employ a nearly 100% non-white workforce has somehow been coupled with the notion of backing one's state of residence. Thus, this girly, anti-white tradition will become yet another generational product of self-hatred among "our"Â kind.
White men have so rapidly evolved into a vile, apathetic shell of their former greatness. No one is to blame, accept for themselves.
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From the April 30 Steelers team report on Yahoo!:
"I think when you throw in Bryant McFadden and Byron Leftwich, two players we were able to pick up using picks that we acquired this year, we really think this is a nice class and we're anxious to see them go to work."
â€"Kevin Colbert, Steelers director of football operations
So Kevin Colbert is drooling over the prospect of adding 12 more blacks to his harem.
Meanwhile, everyone from DWFs to teammates current and former are all piling on the "I Hate Ben Roethlisberger" bandwagon.
Yeah, the guy made some stupid mistakes. But he's been charged with what crime? I can't quite recall what the indictment specified.
Anyway, as has been pointed out over and over on this site, Mike Tomlin hates white players, including Big Ben.
Since Kordell Stewart was the starter for a good bit of his 8 years in Pittsburgh, I guess it's safe to assume that Dennis Dixon or some other future Colbert/Tomlin afflete draftee, will be the Steelers' QB for much of the rest of this decade.
I really think Big Ben will be the QB only for the upcoming season, and then will be sent packing.
And when the team has only 2-3 white men other than K/P/LS for the '11/"12 season, the DWFs that comprise so much of Steeler Nation will still be clamoring for more of the same.
The Steelers made sure with this draft that there would be no room for any Patrick Baileys or Rocky Boimans on the roster for LBs.
They will do the same with next year's draft for the D-line. They'll bring in at least 3 blacks to take the place of Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, and Brett Keisel.
Justin Hartwig will be replaced with Maurkice Pouncey on the O-line, and then Tomlin and Colbert will wait in anticipation of injuries to Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth to get rid of the white TEs.
I just can't understand how any self-respecting white man can look at what's been happening to the Steelers for many years now, accelerated under the Colbert/Tomlin two-some, and not want to turn their backs on the Steelers.
I know there are a lot of good black football players. This site even says as much in its mission statement. I expect to see a sizable number of black players on any NFL roster.
But what the Steelers are doing is nothing other than racism against white players, aided and abetted by their fool DWFs.
They only thing I can do is give the Steelers none of my money or attention.
"I think when you throw in Bryant McFadden and Byron Leftwich, two players we were able to pick up using picks that we acquired this year, we really think this is a nice class and we're anxious to see them go to work."
â€"Kevin Colbert, Steelers director of football operations
So Kevin Colbert is drooling over the prospect of adding 12 more blacks to his harem.
Meanwhile, everyone from DWFs to teammates current and former are all piling on the "I Hate Ben Roethlisberger" bandwagon.
Yeah, the guy made some stupid mistakes. But he's been charged with what crime? I can't quite recall what the indictment specified.
Anyway, as has been pointed out over and over on this site, Mike Tomlin hates white players, including Big Ben.
Since Kordell Stewart was the starter for a good bit of his 8 years in Pittsburgh, I guess it's safe to assume that Dennis Dixon or some other future Colbert/Tomlin afflete draftee, will be the Steelers' QB for much of the rest of this decade.
I really think Big Ben will be the QB only for the upcoming season, and then will be sent packing.
And when the team has only 2-3 white men other than K/P/LS for the '11/"12 season, the DWFs that comprise so much of Steeler Nation will still be clamoring for more of the same.
The Steelers made sure with this draft that there would be no room for any Patrick Baileys or Rocky Boimans on the roster for LBs.
They will do the same with next year's draft for the D-line. They'll bring in at least 3 blacks to take the place of Aaron Smith, Chris Hoke, and Brett Keisel.
Justin Hartwig will be replaced with Maurkice Pouncey on the O-line, and then Tomlin and Colbert will wait in anticipation of injuries to Heath Miller and Matt Spaeth to get rid of the white TEs.
I just can't understand how any self-respecting white man can look at what's been happening to the Steelers for many years now, accelerated under the Colbert/Tomlin two-some, and not want to turn their backs on the Steelers.
I know there are a lot of good black football players. This site even says as much in its mission statement. I expect to see a sizable number of black players on any NFL roster.
But what the Steelers are doing is nothing other than racism against white players, aided and abetted by their fool DWFs.
They only thing I can do is give the Steelers none of my money or attention.
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And by giving the Steelers "none of my attention", I mean not to watch their games anymore. I like to discuss the team with the people on CF, but I won't have anything else to do with them.
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Here is how much support Big Ben has from one of his afflete teammates.http://www.jocklife.net/news/wr-ward-big-ben-suspension-justified-ap-34156
If Ben was black the suspension wouldn't be "justified" according to Hines. You can bet the house on it.
If Ben was black the suspension wouldn't be "justified" according to Hines. You can bet the house on it.
Ward seems to specialize in publicly ripping Ben, yet I can't recall Ben ever saying anything bad about Ward or any other current or former teammate. Ben has been the ultimate stand-upguy when it comes to the teamand has been rewarded for it by getting repeatedly crapped on by his jealous black teammates.
Yeah, and as bigunreal mentioned, having Najeh "The Pooper" Davenport pontificate on Ben's shortcomings as a human being is the height of hypocrisy. I watched ESPN's interview with Davenport and he can barely mumble English. Edited by: Don Wassall
Yeah, and as bigunreal mentioned, having Najeh "The Pooper" Davenport pontificate on Ben's shortcomings as a human being is the height of hypocrisy. I watched ESPN's interview with Davenport and he can barely mumble English. Edited by: Don Wassall
A friend told me that the "victim" was wearing a DTF t-shirt that night ("down to f..."), which may or not be accurate but she has been regarded by most as some naive waif who was brutally assaulted by a dick-waving Roethlisberger. For those who haven't noticed, America's feminist-run society is filled with drunken young sluts, irresponsible single mothers, and rampaging "cougars," who have no respect for themselves much less men and who have no qualms about falsely accusing men of anything when it suits their immediate interests.
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Even Eminen is taking shots at Roethlisberger.http://beatcrave.com/2010-04-30/eminem-bashes-roethlisberger-with-a-new-song/
I'm sure the DWF's will be cheering loudly for Hines Ward all season long and booing Ben.
I'm sure the DWF's will be cheering loudly for Hines Ward all season long and booing Ben.
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Also, you A.J. Trump, the white lineman they just signed, already got cut. I don't think he even had time to set foot at St. Vincent College.
I look forward to watching the coal-black Steelers suck for the next few years. After this season, I'll bet the only white starter will be Miller, maybe Keisel. With about 10 or less whites on the roster. I'm sure the Steeler DWFs won't mind it, in fact, they'll probably want a black Kicker or Punter next.
I look forward to watching the coal-black Steelers suck for the next few years. After this season, I'll bet the only white starter will be Miller, maybe Keisel. With about 10 or less whites on the roster. I'm sure the Steeler DWFs won't mind it, in fact, they'll probably want a black Kicker or Punter next.