Alexander Povetkin

[Charles Martel]

Povetkin: "I would like to fight Wladimir"

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetkin-i-would-like-to-fight-wladimir-139498

After easily taking out WBA mandatory challenger Hasim Rahman in two rounds, WBA “regular” heavyweight titleholder Alexander Povetkin and his team say they’re ready to settle any debate in the heavyweight picture and take on WBA “super” heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko, who also holds the IBF, WBO and IBO belts.

“Wladimir Klitschko takes on Mariusz Wach from Poland next. The winner has until the end of February to face Alexander inside the ring,” said Povetkin’s promoter Kalle Sauerland.

Povetkin himself is hoping for a Klitschko victory.

“I would like to fight Wladimir. A fight between him and myself would be very exciting and interesting to watch.”

Meanwhile, Povetkin’s manager Vladimir Hrunov told R-Sport that negotiations between the Povetkin and Klitschko camps will begin after Wlad’s next fight on November 10. He also stated that Povetkin will continue to work with trainer Kostya Tszyu.

Povetkin, Sauerland Eye Wladimir Klitschko in 2013

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkin-sauerland-eye-wladimir-klitschko-2013--57686

 

[Gibbon]

Povetkin is a dangerous fighter but Vladimir would stay out of range and take care of him handedly, IMO.

If only David Haye (we call him Gaye here?...haha) would take on Povetkin. That's a fight I would watch and not because I necessarily think it would be all that competitive. I mean I guess Gaye could get on his bicycle for a few rounds.

BTW I think a good way to counter the erroneous "boxing is in decline because the Klitschkos have no worthy opponents" meme is to point to the Michael Jordan era of basketball. Unlike the Bird/Magic era, this era was characterized by dominance and NOT competitive rivalry. Yet it is nevertheless considered one of the golden eras of the sport, while its primary icon the best player to ever play. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, DWF.

 

[werewolf]

Povetkin looked very strong - and another Great Black Hope/Dope bites the dust.

 

[Amren.com]

It's easy to look good when you're fighting a bum. What matters is how good you look when fighting quality boxers.

 

[werewolf]

It's easy to look good when you're fighting a bum...

Many of the you know whats were predicting that Rahman would beat Povetkin.

 

[The Hock]

It's easy to look good when you're fighting a bum. What matters is how good you look when fighting quality boxers.

Rahman is not technically a bum, he has an very good resume. Knocked out Lennox Lewis, beat David Tua when Tua was supposed to be a monster. No, Rahman is old and shot, absolutely finished as a fighter. Now with some Klitchko money looming I can understand Povetkin's management wanting a safe fight, but this match-up was sickening. A world class heavyweight like Povetkin deserves better than to be a part of such a farce.

A lot of the brutality in boxing happens outside the ring.

 

[Gibbon]

On the subject of poor-beat-to-**** Rahman: has anyone ever noticed how blacks tend to decline more rapidly in boxing? There are certainly exceptions. For instance, whatever one might say about his relative ability overall, George Foreman has to be consider one such exception. And my feeling is that this decline tends to be more pronounced, in general, in the lower weight classes.

My personal feeling is that many of these blacks never really learned how to be fundamentally strong boxers because of an early reliance on speed i.e. hand-speed, elusiveness and "athleticism" (at least as the term is very specifically defined nowadays). And, in fact, often this reliance leads them to bad habits, thereby making an advantage, a liability. A cultural love of "flashiness" certainly doesn't help in this regard either. Once this "athleticism" fades, they are sitting ducks.

Contrast, for example, Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe. What a shadow Roy became of his former self and what a genius Joe proved himself throughout his career. Intelligence and discipline are also factors. And, of course, strength is the last thing to go....

And certainly WE also "be havin' some brothers with some dope hand-speed" —but, in the final analysis, the greatest warriors are a balance and melody of all the requisite traits, knowing how to use each in proportion to its true value, frugally, without vanity and with only victory as the goal. Anything else is maladaptive.

It's beyond question that our race produces the best boxers. And one day we will consider it shocking that we even considered another possibility.

 

[whiteathlete33]

On the subject of poor-beat-to-**** Rahman: has anyone ever noticed how blacks tend to decline more rapidly in boxing? There are certainly exceptions. For instance, whatever one might say about his relative ability overall, George Foreman has to be consider one such exception. And my feeling is that this decline tends to be more pronounced, in general, in the lower weight classes.

My personal feeling is that many of these blacks never really learned how to be fundamentally strong boxers because of an early reliance on speed i.e. hand-speed, elusiveness and "athleticism" (at least as the term is very specifically defined nowadays). And, in fact, often this reliance leads them to bad habits, thereby making an advantage, a liability. A cultural love of "flashiness" certainly doesn't help in this regard either. Once this "athleticism" fades, they are sitting ducks.

Contrast, for example, Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe. What a shadow Roy became of his former self and what a genius Joe proved himself throughout his career. Intelligence and discipline are also factors. And, of course, strength is the last thing to go....

And certainly WE also "be havin' some brothers with some dope hand-speed" —but, in the final analysis, the greatest warriors are a balance and melody of all the requisite traits, knowing how to use each in proportion to its true value, frugally, without vanity and with only victory as the goal. Anything else is maladaptive.

It's beyond question that our race produces the best boxers. And one day we will consider it shocking that we even considered another possibility.

Good points Gibbon! Welcome to Castefootball by the way. We need some more knowledgable posters in the boxing forum.

I've said this before but if Calzaghe simply had more power I'd probably rate him the best P4P fighter ever. He was very crafty, very fast, and intelligent. He embarrased Bernard Popkins and if he had more power he would have knocked the clown out that night.

 

[Amren.com]

Many of the you know whats were predicting that Rahman would beat Povetkin.

That was either stupidity or wishful thinking.

 

[Amren.com]

If and when Wladimir fights Povetkin, I hope and expect it to be a repeat of Wladimir vs Chagaev.

 

[Gibbon]

Good points Gibbon! Welcome to Castefootball by the way. We need some more knowledgable posters in the boxing forum.

I've said this before but if Calzaghe simply had more power I'd probably rate him the best P4P fighter ever. He was very crafty, very fast, and intelligent. He embarrased Bernard Popkins and if he had more power he would have knocked the clown out that night.

Thanks Whiteathlete. Hopkins is another good example of a black boxer who couldn't age well relative to his elite, white contemporaries. Calzaghe ended up being one of my favorites. Though I admit rooting for Kessler when they fought. Back to Povetkin...

 

[Amren.com]

Many of the you know whats were predicting that Rahman would beat Povetkin.

I saw many of them hoping Rahman would win but I didn't see too many thinking he would win.

 

[werewolf]

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[Charles Martel]

Looks like Alexander Povetkin will fight on May 17. His opponent will be either Andrew Wawrzyk or Joe Hanks, both of whom are undefeated.

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-povetkin-we-wanted-david-price-he-got-kod--64137

 

[Charles Martel]

Alexander Povetkin is now scheduled to fight Manuel Charr on May 30.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Charr VS Povetkin will be a great fight. I'm a big supporter of both boxers, so I just hope the best man wins. Conventional logic would make Povetkin a favourite because of his superior technical skills but Charr hits good and is definitely a live underdog (especially with Pov coming off the Wlad loss where he was dropped numerous times). I'm excited for this one!

 

[Charles Martel]

[video=youtube;gXzRqchN0Lo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gXzRqchN0Lo[/video]

 

[Charles Martel]

Here's a working stream for Povetkin-Charr. It's about to start.

http://antenasport.com/ch1.html

 

[whiteathlete33]

Here's a working stream for Povetkin-Charr. It's about to start.

http://antenasport.com/ch1.html

Which one is it?

 

[white is right]

Povetkin was in another class than Charr. Beyond some jabs and forearms to the throat Charr was just a punching bag in the ring. It shows you the gulf between Klitschko and the rest of the division. He made Povetkin look like Charr.

 

[a5308860]

What a knockout.

Congratulations to Povetkin.

 

[Charles Martel]

Full fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=63TPAzbU80E

Alexander Povetkin looks like he has fully recovered from his period of decline with the horrible Teddy Atlas.

 

[Westside]

Great win and KO by Povetkin! He also appears to be in excellent condition. If I was him I would demand a fight with the winner of Stervene vs Wilder match. Then after that attempt a rematch with Wlad. The outcome however, would be the same.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Great win by Pov. Watched the fight and I was really imprrssed with Alex. Manuel Charr is a very decent boxer, and Id say on the strength of this win Pov reafforms himself as the #2 heavyweight in the world.

I was expecting a Povetkin decision win, but Charr was a live underdog. Povetkin closed the show like great boxers do. Congrats to Alex.

 

[werewolf]

Povetkin looked great. I was especially impressed with the uppercut in his repertoire. I think it's the best in the business.

Anybody know why he uses the nickname Vityaz, and it's also written on his trunks in the back? Vityaz is one of the Russian military special forces. Was he in it at one time?

Charr did his best, and he was extremely sportsmanlike and gracious in losing. Good on him too!