Got the chance to meet Will just a few days before the Draft. Nice down to earth dude. Confidence level + nastiness on the field cut from a different cloth. .....Did not even bring up the " short arms" to him but wonder if i should have. "Always gotta critique the White boy some way or another
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FootballDad
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I find this to be great news. The "lets get whitey off of the offensive line by inventing a hard to achieve metric that doesn't even matter" agenda is one of my biggest peeves. Let's hope that Campbell's success can usher in opportunities for other T-rex armed white players.
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Efton Chism dominated the second pre season game when playing and was excellent in joint practices looks set to of secured a spot on 53 man roster no way he gets through waivers. Think he may see some playing time this year but got a hell of a career ahead of him the coaches love him.
With one pre season game to go before cut down the predicted roster is 13 whites on the 53....
Drake Maye, Efton Chism, Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper, Jack Westover (3rd TE and fullback), Will Campbell, Garrett Bradbury and Ben Brown (reserve C/interior back up), Robert Spillane and Jack Gibbens (linebacker), Brendan Schooler at safety and special teams together with Barringer and Romo at punter and Kicker.
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With one pre season game to go before cut down the predicted roster is 13 whites on the 53....
Drake Maye, Efton Chism, Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper, Jack Westover (3rd TE and fullback), Will Campbell, Garrett Bradbury and Ben Brown (reserve C/interior back up), Robert Spillane and Jack Gibbens (linebacker), Brendan Schooler at safety and special teams together with Barringer and Romo at punter and Kicker.
Perry's 53-man roster projection: Chism claims his spot; Dugger drops
Phil Perry's new Patriots 53-man roster projection features a few surprises after an eventful week in Minnesota.
www.nbcsportsboston.com
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Due to what are seen as small injuries to Efton Chism and Kyle Williams together with the ongoing Kendrick Bourne injury, the Patriots have signed white wide weciever Pat Lutz out of Delaware to the 90 man roster and places a black DT on injured reserve!
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Thanks for the Patriots updates Woody!
Too bad Rookie RB Lan Larison went on IR w Foot injury (is this for the year? or first Six weeks?) Had high hopes from him to make the 53 man squad; in the Danny Woodhead -role as an All Purpose Back
Go figure it takes a Undrafted FCS WR from Cooper Kupp's old school to bring back the Super Bowl Winning Formula!
Efton Chism sure has been Fun to watch on Highlights this pre-season!! Hope Lutz can stick at least on the Practice Suad.
Really like to see at least 20 White players on the 53 man roster. Wonder how many teams will hit that mark this season??
Too bad Rookie RB Lan Larison went on IR w Foot injury (is this for the year? or first Six weeks?) Had high hopes from him to make the 53 man squad; in the Danny Woodhead -role as an All Purpose Back
Go figure it takes a Undrafted FCS WR from Cooper Kupp's old school to bring back the Super Bowl Winning Formula!
Efton Chism sure has been Fun to watch on Highlights this pre-season!! Hope Lutz can stick at least on the Practice Suad.
Really like to see at least 20 White players on the 53 man roster. Wonder how many teams will hit that mark this season??
woody39
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No worries enjoy posting about my team and the NFL in general trying to be more active. Its great to have the Pats looking a bit better from a caste perspective could be some depth on the practice squad and they look like 13 whites on the 53 better than last year.
Pretty sure Larison would of made the 53, think he has a chance next year with Stevenson not the best and has ball security issues and Gibson isn't young. Could be Henderson (who looks impressive tbf) and Larison as the 1 and 2 choice.
Dunno if any will hit 20 maybe the Eagles or Chiefs? Perhaps the lions? How ironic.... the whiter the team the better ....who would of thought ay!
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Hendrickson is on the trade block. Would be nice if the Pats made a move for him. Pure speculation and wishful thinking at this point.
Excited to see how Drake Maye does in year two.
Excited to see how Drake Maye does in year two.
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Beat reporters and twitter guys are talking about it as we have the salary cap to do it but would he come to a non playoff team?
FootballDad
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It's rumored that the Bengals are asking for a defensive player (young) and a 1st round pick in exchange for Hendrickson. If that's all they want, he'll find a new team.
And here we go.....Undrafted Rookie WR Efton Chism making people take notice
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The meteoric rise of Efton Chism III has caught Julian Edelman's attention. But not because the Patriots legend sees himself in the undrafted rookie receiver, as some others might.
"I think he reminds me more of Dola (Danny Amendola) than he does me," Edelman told Tom E. Curran during the Patriots Talk podcast released Tuesday. "The way he runs is a little like that."
Nevertheless, Edelman has been impressed by Chism.
"His playing strength is really impressive," Edelman said. "He's had a hell of a camp. It's going to be an interesting decision on what to do with these guys in that receiver room."
Chism has studied Amendola since arriving to New England as sought-after rookie free agent. Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels made sure Chism received a cut-up video from Amendola's tenure in New England (2013-2017).
The 5-foot-11, 185-pound Amendola played an impactful role alongside quarterback Tom Brady and McDaniels, of course. An undrafted receiver out of Texas Tech, Amendola eclipsed 50 catches and 600 yards during three of his five seasons in New England.
McDaniels and company would be thrilled if the 5-foot-10, 198-pound Chism had a similar impact.
"He's super twitchy," Chism said after watching Amendola. "He knows how to release. If the guy's playing off, if the guy's playing press, he knows how to sit in zones but he also knows how to win versus man. I don't think a lot of people -- at least me, like before becoming a Patriot, I didn't watch a lot of him. But now I'm watching it and like, 'Man, he can really win versus man, too.' He's not just a just a zone catcher."
The Eastern Washington product has come on strong after a slow start to camp, all but locking up a roster spot following his preseason performance against the Minnesota Vikings on Saturday. Chism, who had six receptions for 71 yards and one touchdown in two quarters of play, was the best player on the field at times.
Patriots insider Phil Perry projected New England's 53-man roster and listed Chism as his sixth receiver behind Stefon Diggs, DeMario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams and Mack Hollins. Neither Williams nor Chism have practiced since playing the Vikings, but Chism is believed to be dealing with a minor foot ailment. Fellow wideouts Kendrick Bourne and Ja'Lynn Polk, who have been sidelined for weeks due to injury, as well as Javon Baker were left off Perry's projection.
Chism received an opportunity this summer and he's ran with it. Edelman, while maybe not the same type of player, certainly can relate.
Does Efton Chism remind Julian Edelman of himself? Patriots legend weighs in
Does Efton Chism remind Julian Edelman of himself? Patriots legend weighs in
Patriots legend Julian Edelman discussed Efton Chism III when he appeared on the Patriots Talk podcast.
www.nbcsportsboston.com
The meteoric rise of Efton Chism III has caught Julian Edelman's attention. But not because the Patriots legend sees himself in the undrafted rookie receiver, as some others might.
"I think he reminds me more of Dola (Danny Amendola) than he does me," Edelman told Tom E. Curran during the Patriots Talk podcast released Tuesday. "The way he runs is a little like that."
Nevertheless, Edelman has been impressed by Chism.
"His playing strength is really impressive," Edelman said. "He's had a hell of a camp. It's going to be an interesting decision on what to do with these guys in that receiver room."
Chism has studied Amendola since arriving to New England as sought-after rookie free agent. Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels made sure Chism received a cut-up video from Amendola's tenure in New England (2013-2017).
The 5-foot-11, 185-pound Amendola played an impactful role alongside quarterback Tom Brady and McDaniels, of course. An undrafted receiver out of Texas Tech, Amendola eclipsed 50 catches and 600 yards during three of his five seasons in New England.
McDaniels and company would be thrilled if the 5-foot-10, 198-pound Chism had a similar impact.
"He's super twitchy," Chism said after watching Amendola. "He knows how to release. If the guy's playing off, if the guy's playing press, he knows how to sit in zones but he also knows how to win versus man. I don't think a lot of people -- at least me, like before becoming a Patriot, I didn't watch a lot of him. But now I'm watching it and like, 'Man, he can really win versus man, too.' He's not just a just a zone catcher."
The Eastern Washington product has come on strong after a slow start to camp, all but locking up a roster spot following his preseason performance against the Minnesota Vikings on Saturday. Chism, who had six receptions for 71 yards and one touchdown in two quarters of play, was the best player on the field at times.
Patriots insider Phil Perry projected New England's 53-man roster and listed Chism as his sixth receiver behind Stefon Diggs, DeMario Douglas, Kayshon Boutte, Kyle Williams and Mack Hollins. Neither Williams nor Chism have practiced since playing the Vikings, but Chism is believed to be dealing with a minor foot ailment. Fellow wideouts Kendrick Bourne and Ja'Lynn Polk, who have been sidelined for weeks due to injury, as well as Javon Baker were left off Perry's projection.
Chism received an opportunity this summer and he's ran with it. Edelman, while maybe not the same type of player, certainly can relate.
This guy was already a huge bust even before this, as have been just about all receivers taken by New England in recent years. But never fear, the Patriots took WR Kyle Williams in the third round this year, who has been getting the same hype that Polk (second round pick in '24) and Javon Baker (fourth round in '24) were getting this time last year. Baker appears to be an even bigger bust than Polk.
Patriots WR Ja’Lynn Polk (shoulder) will undergo season-ending surgery. It’s a brutal development for the second-year wide receiver. Polk was reportedly not a lock to make the Patriots’ roster after being outplayed by his teammates in spring practices. Hopefully, he can resume training individually before long. On 15 preseason snaps, Polk earned zero targets and rushed once for one yard.
Patriots WR Ja’Lynn Polk (shoulder) will undergo season-ending surgery. It’s a brutal development for the second-year wide receiver. Polk was reportedly not a lock to make the Patriots’ roster after being outplayed by his teammates in spring practices. Hopefully, he can resume training individually before long. On 15 preseason snaps, Polk earned zero targets and rushed once for one yard.
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Ben Wooldridge QB RB Shane Watts WR Phil Lutz and TE Cole Fotheringham all cut by the Patriots today ahead of the 53 deadline Tuesday. No one thought of as making the roster here was cut and all bar Wooldridge were late additions in camp. Hopefully some stick on the practice squad.
FootballDad
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Hopefully Watts get signed to the practice squad. Watched a bit of the game last night and he was impressive. Better than probably half of the black scrubs that litter rosters around the league.
woody39
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Another whitey in for a visit wouldn't be a suprise to see him signed due to their poor depth at linebacker behind Spillane, Ellis and Gibbens.
Luke Masterson in side linebacker most recently at Raiders originally bought in by Josh McDaniels. Four year vet out of Wake Forest.
Luke Masterson in side linebacker most recently at Raiders originally bought in by Josh McDaniels. Four year vet out of Wake Forest.
woody39
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Efton Chism makes the 53 man roster at wide reciever, didn't see how they could not after the pre season and camp he had. He looks like the next Amendola as Edelman said himself, the coach has been giving him tapes of Dola to study. Chisms route running is off the charts and his hands are great.
Shame Larrson and Lampe ended up on IR otherwise would of had two of our guys in the back field too!
Shame Larrson and Lampe ended up on IR otherwise would of had two of our guys in the back field too!
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Excellent news here, De Vito claimed by the Patriots!
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So preseason in the books and cuts made this how the Patriots stand heading to week 1 against the Las Vegas Raiders.
Total Starters :- 5
Total White Players on the 53 :- 13
Offense
QB - Drake Maye, Mike De Vito
TE - Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper, Jack Westover (3rd TE/FB)
WR - Efton Chism III
OL - Will Campbell (LT), Garrett Bradbury (C), Ben Brown (G/C)
Defense
ILB - Robert Spillane, Jack Gibbens
S - Brendan Schooler
Special Teams
P - Bryce Barringer
Practice Squad - OC Alec Lindstrom and TE CJ Dippre.
The 2025 Patriots are a far cry from the perennial caste favourites they once were in the 2010s in the Brady Gronk Edelman etc era and after a dreadful season under first year head coach Jerod Mayo, head into this season under the guidance of Patriot legend and former Titans HC Mike Vrabel.
Also back is Josh McDaniels at offensive coordinator, who's two tight end sets, use of the fullback and prominent slot receiver usage may all help our guys production. There are a number of other experienced coaches, some ex HCs and coordinators in the staff that should help the Patriots this year.
The team is led by second year QB Drake Maye, the 3rd overall pick from an otherwise diasterous 2024 draft that only sees two survivors make the 53! He has the makings of a top QB with great mobility and an excellent deep ball, he hasn't looked amazing in pre season but McDaniels offense can take some getting used too and expect him to take the leap in year 2.
No whites at running back/full time FB although would of expected both UDFAs Lan Larison and Brock Lampe to of made the 53, they will be back next year after end of season Injuries.
Tight end is led by veteran Hunter Henry who will act as a reliable safety blanket and is athletic enough to be a big producer in an offense which will prominently highlight tight ends and Austin Hooper will see the field alot as the 2nd. He and Maye have a great connection from last year. Westover will be on fullback duty and back up those two.
At wide receiver, Efton Chism a UDFA out of Eastern Washington had a great Spring and camp shining in preseason winning a place over 2024 4th rounder Baker and an aging Bourne. He will start as back up slot receiver but he may see the field as the season progresses, with any the luck the coaches love him and he plays like Amendola, sky's the limit for him if he keeps at it.
On the o-line, Will Campbell was drafted 4th overall at left tackle, the 3 year standout starter at LSU will add stability and talent and at only 21 years old he will improve through this season and next. The Patriots ignored the negativity about "arm length" and pulled the trigger, he looks like the leader of the line for years to come. Bradbury will play centre coming off a down year in Minnesota and not a great camp but he is talented and will grow in to the role. Ben Brown a pleasant surprise, signed midway through last year has won the top back up interior role and could see time if Jared Wilson the rookie struggles at left guard, which he has at times.
On defense, not too much to cheer but it is led by former Raiders linebacker Robert Spillane who signed a big 3 year 33 million to man the middle linebacker role and has the green dot as the leader, he is backed up by Jack Gibbens from the titans in the off-season who I expect to be in the rotation and feature on special teams.
All pro safety Brendan Schooler whilst primary an outstanding gunner on specials may see the field on certain packages as a blitzer like last season.
Overall as I said earlier a far cry from the glory years but let's see how Vrabel, Mcdaniels and company go, will take a while to turn the team around both from a caste perspective if they wish and in terms of success on the field. They have cut a host of mostly black players from the old regime some with decent salaries to change the culture, prepared to give them the benefit of doubt and see how they go!
Total Starters :- 5
Total White Players on the 53 :- 13
Offense
QB - Drake Maye, Mike De Vito
TE - Hunter Henry, Austin Hooper, Jack Westover (3rd TE/FB)
WR - Efton Chism III
OL - Will Campbell (LT), Garrett Bradbury (C), Ben Brown (G/C)
Defense
ILB - Robert Spillane, Jack Gibbens
S - Brendan Schooler
Special Teams
P - Bryce Barringer
Practice Squad - OC Alec Lindstrom and TE CJ Dippre.
The 2025 Patriots are a far cry from the perennial caste favourites they once were in the 2010s in the Brady Gronk Edelman etc era and after a dreadful season under first year head coach Jerod Mayo, head into this season under the guidance of Patriot legend and former Titans HC Mike Vrabel.
Also back is Josh McDaniels at offensive coordinator, who's two tight end sets, use of the fullback and prominent slot receiver usage may all help our guys production. There are a number of other experienced coaches, some ex HCs and coordinators in the staff that should help the Patriots this year.
The team is led by second year QB Drake Maye, the 3rd overall pick from an otherwise diasterous 2024 draft that only sees two survivors make the 53! He has the makings of a top QB with great mobility and an excellent deep ball, he hasn't looked amazing in pre season but McDaniels offense can take some getting used too and expect him to take the leap in year 2.
No whites at running back/full time FB although would of expected both UDFAs Lan Larison and Brock Lampe to of made the 53, they will be back next year after end of season Injuries.
Tight end is led by veteran Hunter Henry who will act as a reliable safety blanket and is athletic enough to be a big producer in an offense which will prominently highlight tight ends and Austin Hooper will see the field alot as the 2nd. He and Maye have a great connection from last year. Westover will be on fullback duty and back up those two.
At wide receiver, Efton Chism a UDFA out of Eastern Washington had a great Spring and camp shining in preseason winning a place over 2024 4th rounder Baker and an aging Bourne. He will start as back up slot receiver but he may see the field as the season progresses, with any the luck the coaches love him and he plays like Amendola, sky's the limit for him if he keeps at it.
On the o-line, Will Campbell was drafted 4th overall at left tackle, the 3 year standout starter at LSU will add stability and talent and at only 21 years old he will improve through this season and next. The Patriots ignored the negativity about "arm length" and pulled the trigger, he looks like the leader of the line for years to come. Bradbury will play centre coming off a down year in Minnesota and not a great camp but he is talented and will grow in to the role. Ben Brown a pleasant surprise, signed midway through last year has won the top back up interior role and could see time if Jared Wilson the rookie struggles at left guard, which he has at times.
On defense, not too much to cheer but it is led by former Raiders linebacker Robert Spillane who signed a big 3 year 33 million to man the middle linebacker role and has the green dot as the leader, he is backed up by Jack Gibbens from the titans in the off-season who I expect to be in the rotation and feature on special teams.
All pro safety Brendan Schooler whilst primary an outstanding gunner on specials may see the field on certain packages as a blitzer like last season.
Overall as I said earlier a far cry from the glory years but let's see how Vrabel, Mcdaniels and company go, will take a while to turn the team around both from a caste perspective if they wish and in terms of success on the field. They have cut a host of mostly black players from the old regime some with decent salaries to change the culture, prepared to give them the benefit of doubt and see how they go!
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Thanks Woody for the thorough reporting on NE. Certainly good to see them moving in the right direction and back to a "Run of the Mill Caste Team" after bottoming out last year. 9 Whites with 2 starters last year from a Patriots team was a cruel prank.
Interesting that NE has 2 non-Whites out of the specialists, which is also depressing this year's numbers. To my knowledge, they may have the only non-White long snapper in the league. That position is Whiter than a Mormon retreat....
Interesting that NE has 2 non-Whites out of the specialists, which is also depressing this year's numbers. To my knowledge, they may have the only non-White long snapper in the league. That position is Whiter than a Mormon retreat....
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