2022 NFL Week 12

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I see the back up Mitchell having a better running day so far averaging 5 yards a carry. McCaffrey better pick it up or he'll be replaced!!!!
This is what I’ve been talking about since finding out to go to the 49ers, it’s just not a good scheme for him
 

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I agree. The only white starting running back or is it ex starting white running back. This makes no sense other than to screw
whitey. Nothing against Mitchell as he is a good back by Cmac is a great elite back wasting away. Wow just wow did this
trade go wrong.
From the beginning, if you look back, I’ve said this was a bad place for CMC to go to. The 49ers are not a good offense for him. On paper, they have all these good players, but the parts are far greater than the sum.
 

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Herbert doing his best Trevor Lawrence impression! 2pt conversion to take the lead.
 

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What happened to CMC. According to the stat line he hasn't touched the ball over the half of the 3rd quarter?
Tweeked a knee. Playing still a little bit. Pretty sad when the announcers are begging for NO to let Taysom pound the ball in from 1st and goal at the 4. 4 pass attempts later and the shutout still stands. The idea of splitting a RB or RB/QB out wide is just stupid. Even splitting CMC is a waste as it takes away the large advantage he has coming out of the backfield and catching passes with better matchups. Don't know why any coaches ever split a RB out wide.
 

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CMC getting a couple of garbage time carries.....Now the third string rookie from Ga Tech is finishing the game.....No problem with that.....I looked up his stats in college......Not as productive as Borghi.
 

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Herbert doing his best Trevor Lawrence impression! 2pt conversion to take the lead.
Not a good day for Magical QBs. Mahomes and Brisket are the only two whose team won I believe. Hurts going tonight. . . Seattle is about to go to OT
 

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So CMC effectively relegated to 3rd strong running back now. Beyond the big game, he has looked, difficult as it is to say, less than an average back.

Meanwhile, back in Carolina, Donte Foreman is churning out 100-yard games. This is the worst nightmare for the fight against the caste system.
 

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So CMC effectively relegated to 3rd strong running back now. Beyond the big game, he has looked, difficult as it is to say, less than an average back.

Meanwhile, back in Carolina, Donte Foreman is churning out 100-yard games. This is the worst nightmare for the fight against the caste system.
So CMC effectively relegated to 3rd strong running back now. Beyond the big game, he has looked, difficult as it is to say, less than an average back.

Meanwhile, back in Carolina, Donte Foreman is churning out 100-yard games. This is the worst nightmare for the fight against the caste system.
Yes, and today CMC averaged 2.9 ypa and the other two RB's averaged 5 ypa. As I said he better pick it up. The 49ers are giving him the most touches, but for how long?? I'm not sure what's going on with CMC. Wasn't able to watch the game today as other games were televised in my area.
 

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So CMC effectively relegated to 3rd strong running back now. Beyond the big game, he has looked, difficult as it is to say, less than an average back.

Meanwhile, back in Carolina, Donte Foreman is churning out 100-yard games. This is the worst nightmare for the fight against the caste system.
So McCaffrey's third string now? It was a low scoring defensive battle. Who came out of it with great stats? It's one game, he'll still make his mark this season but his days of being a bellcow back are likely over after missing most of the past two seasons. RBBC is the way the NFL is now with just a few exceptions. I still love the trade and wouldn't want to see Christian on any other team.
 

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You almost have to wonder what happened after the first game that CMC had a full week of practice and accounted for 3 tds. HIs role has been reduced since inexplicably. Today, at least in the 2nd half was mostly due to him tweeking the knee so it's not as alarming. Is it lockerroom politics again? Are they overreacting to his so-called injury prowness? IDK, I literally only watch his games and Taysom's games and I'm fit to be tied. One of the worst seasons ever to watch anything IMO. blackpilled.
 

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And Seattle loses in OT on an 86 yard run by Josh Jacobs. Anyone who had Jacobs in fantasy today is happy. He was pretty average until this season, but he's been the best RB in the league this year.
 

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So McCaffrey's third string now? It was a low scoring defensive battle. Who came out of it with great stats? It's one game, he'll still make his mark this season but his days of being a bellcow back are likely over after missing most of the past two seasons. RBBC is the way the NFL is now with just a few exceptions. I still love the trade and wouldn't want to see Christian on any other team.
I'm not saying he's 3rd string, but over the last two games the other two RB's are churning out 5,6,7,8 yards per carry while CMC is getting 1-3 yards. As I said the Niners are giving him every opportunity to perform. He needs to pick it up a bit in the run game.
 

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The real issue is we shouldn't have to put so much weight into everyone of McCaffery's performances and there should be 15-20 other White RBs in the league getting meaningful touches.

Nice to see Pete's plantation lose at home.
 

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The real issue is we shouldn't have to put so much weight into everyone of McCaffery's performances and there should be 15-20 other White RBs in the league getting meaningful touches.

Nice to see Pete's plantation lose at home.
WELL SAID!!
 

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I'm not saying he's 3rd string, but over the last two games the other two RB's are churning out 5,6,7,8 yards per carry while CMC is getting 1-3 yards. As I said the Niners are giving him every opportunity to perform. He needs to pick it up a bit in the run game.
He had one less carry than the other two RBs combined. But their 5 yard average was based on 7 and 5 carries respectively. It's not statistically meaningful for a single game. As I wrote last week, I expect McCaffrey to average at least 100 total yards per game. He didn't today in a low scoring battle, but I'll bet he still does by season's end. I learned a long time ago not to put too much stock in a single game, whether good or bad, in any sport. And what Leonardfan wrote is right on the mark.
 

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So McCaffrey's third string now? It was a low scoring defensive battle. Who came out of it with great stats? It's one game, he'll still make his mark this season but his days of being a bellcow back are likely over after missing most of the past two seasons. RBBC is the way the NFL is now with just a few exceptions. I still love the trade and wouldn't want to see Christian on any other team.
But Don, it’s not one game… he has looked bad in this offense save for the first game off the bye. Whether it is their line, playcalling, CMC himself or a combination of the above, the fact of the matter is he has looked effectively worse each week. Mitchell looks far better unfortunately. And to pour salt on this wound, his backup in Carolina, Foreman, churned out another 100 yard game.

The 49ers are going nowhere and their coaching is atrocious. They have (on paper) an embarrassment of riches and yet they look disjointed and flat.

CMC needs to be the focal point of the run game. Backs need to get into a rhythm and he is not afforded that here.
 

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So McCaffrey's third string now? It was a low scoring defensive battle. Who came out of it with great stats? It's one game, he'll still make his mark this season but his days of being a bellcow back are likely over after missing most of the past two seasons. RBBC is the way the NFL is now with just a few exceptions. I still love the trade and wouldn't want to see Christian on any other team.
I thought the trade was good too. I would have like the Rams better but that probably would have been a disaster with Stafford and Kupp out now. Outside of the Bills it was the best place for him. With that being said, I don't like how he is being currently used the past few games. He doesn't have to have 30 touches but he has be on the field in the proper role. It's like batting your clean up hitter last - it will eventually come back to hurt you. I guess we will have to see how he is used in the playoffs if they make it.
 

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WELL SAID!!
Exactly!

But the reality is that he is the only white running back getting carries. His position is the single most important for the caste system.

Until (and if) Shipley and Steele get the chance, CMC is the most important player for our cause.
 

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You almost have to wonder what happened after the first game that CMC had a full week of practice and accounted for 3 tds. HIs role has been reduced since inexplicably. Today, at least in the 2nd half was mostly due to him tweeking the knee so it's not as alarming. Is it lockerroom politics again? Are they overreacting to his so-called injury prowness? IDK, I literally only watch his games and Taysom's games and I'm fit to be tied. One of the worst seasons ever to watch anything IMO. blackpilled.
I echo your sentiments entirely.
 

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But Don, it’s not one game… he has looked bad in this offense save for the first game off the bye. Whether it is their line, playcalling, CMC himself or a combination of the above, the fact of the matter is he has looked effectively worse each week. Mitchell looks far better unfortunately. And to pour salt on this wound, his backup in Carolina, Foreman, churned out another 100 yard game.

The 49ers are going nowhere and their coaching is atrocious. They have (on paper) an embarrassment of riches and yet they look disjointed and flat.

CMC needs to be the focal point of the run game. Backs need to get into a rhythm and he is not afforded that here.
Mitchell "looks" better because like most backup rbs the defense doesn't key on him as much. You gotta know the defense not only fears CMC running but has got to have a man or two ready for him coming out of the backfield for passes. That's why I don't think he should be sitting out especially on third downs. You completely lose the decoy effect.
 

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But Don, it’s not one game… he has looked bad in this offense save for the first game off the bye. Whether it is their line, playcalling, CMC himself or a combination of the above, the fact of the matter is he has looked effectively worse each week. Mitchell looks far better unfortunately. And to pour salt on this wound, his backup in Carolina, Foreman, churned out another 100 yard game.

The 49ers are going nowhere and their coaching is atrocious. They have (on paper) an embarrassment of riches and yet they look disjointed and flat.

CMC needs to be the focal point of the run game. Backs need to get into a rhythm and he is not afforded that here.
They look pretty strong to me and maybe they're still working out the best way to utilize all their offensive pieces. Hey I'm rooting for McCaffrey as much as anyone, but if he can be a very important contributor on a team with a lot of weapons, I'll be happy because I don't think he's ever going to be a bellcow back again. We'll see how it shakes out through the rest of the season as the best thing Christian can do for the cause is stay healthy and be a key contributor on a potential Super Bowl winning team. I still predict he'll average over 100 total yards per game with SF, which will put him among the elite at his position.
 

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He had one less carry than the other two RBs combined. But their 5 yard average was based on 7 and 5 carries respectively. It's not statistically meaningful for a single game. As I wrote last week, I expect McCaffrey to average at least 100 total yards per game. He didn't today in a low scoring battle, but I'll bet he still does by season's end. I learned a long time ago not to put too much stock in a single game, whether good or bad, in any sport. And what Leonardfan wrote is right on the mark.
Over the last 3 games Mitchell and CMC stats:
CMC: 32 carries 109 yards. 3.4 per carry
Mitchell: 34 carries 183 yards. 5.4 per carry
If the stats were reversed and the white RB had the better stats we would screaming for the white RB to be the feature RB. We know how white players are treated. I believe unlike some here SF is giving CMC every opportunity, except for the times they run him straight up the middle, they've been very fair. I'm saying he better find something or he'll be replaced as the starter as he was in in the second half. Mitchell would've eventually had more carries if he wasn't injured. Take nothing from Mitchell. He has produced every time he's played.
 
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Over the last 3 games Mitchell and CMC stats:
CMC: 32 carries 109 yards. 3.4 per carry
Mitchell: 34 carries 183 yards. 5.4 per carry
If the stats were reversed and the white RB had the better stats we would screaming for the white RB to be the feature RB. We know how white players are treated. I believe unlike some here SF is giving CMC every opportunity, except for the times they run him straight up the middle, they've been very fare. I'm saying he better find something or he'll be replaced as the starter as he was in in the second half. Mitchell would've eventually had more carries if he wasn't injured. Take nothing form Mitchell. He has produced every time he's played.
I don't disagree, but look at today's box score. Alvin Kamara 7 rushes for 13 yards, Taysom Hill 6 for 13, Mark Ingram 4 for 10. No receiver on either team had more than 65 receiving yards. It was an ugly defensive battle. I agree with all of you that there is cause for alarm and also agree that he is not being used imaginatively at all, but I'm not going to draw definitive conclusions yet and still believe McCaffrey will average over 100 total yards per game. And even if Mitchell continues to outrush him, Christian still has a huge advantage as a receiving weapon.
 

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I don't disagree, but look at today's box score. Alvin Kamara 7 rushes for 13 yards, Taysom Hill 6 for 13, Mark Ingram 4 for 10. No receiver on either team had more than 65 receiving yards. It was an ugly defensive battle. I agree with all of you that there is cause for alarm and also agree that he is not being used imaginatively at all, but I'm not going to draw definitive conclusions yet and still believe McCaffrey will average over 100 total yards per game. And even if Mitchell continues to outrush him, Christian still has a huge advantage as a receiving weapon.
AGREED.
 
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