2021 Track Season Results

[chipsnsalsa]

Agreed WL. How anyone can say a guy isn't going to get faster who set a PB in the 200 and ran a windy 9.97 as a college sophomore. Almost as ridiculous as the guy who was here saying Boling has african genes because of his curly hair.

Haha that hair thing is hilarious! As for getting faster, I'd like to see it, just pointing out that Shirvo, Pickering and Lemaitre all got slower after age 21. But we will see. Certainly the incredible excitement about him has been severely blunted in the past couple of months. WL says he will run a legal sub-10 within a year; I'll be rooting for him to do so.

 

[TheBigDawg]

Rohan Browning has gotten faster over time and he is 23

 

[chipsnsalsa]

ok ... watching all the to and froing here........ there may not ever be another white 100 metre champion (I'm not a prophet). It remains a sport dominated by very fast black guys and there are many, many more of them competing in this event so it seems. There are thousands of them all over the world who hope sprinting may their chance for a lifelong meal ticket.
Most fast white guys I have followed are studying something for a career choice and won't ever put their all into becoming a professional 100/200m sprinter - I think we are culturally different this way. Guliyev did that and it worked out for him but I'm not certain many have that mindset.
But I'm here, have been 15/16 years, to bone up on future and present white track talents and have had many reasons to be satisfied - Kilty's world 60m title, Guliyev's World 200 title, Lemaitre's bronzes for 200m in both the Olympics and the Worlds...... plus the sub 10s that have come and are always just around the corner giving hope for next season.
We may well see more and more Asian sprinters making sub 10 common place and this makes for huge interest. We saw a Chinese world 100mH WR holder, both China and Japan have/had some great 4x100 teams....... and I'm not anti-anyone in sprinting so I don't see it as a slap in the face if black sprinters continue to dominate as long as good white kids aren't led away from the sport because their skin colour persuades others, others who often have incentives to recruit stereotypically for the best chance of success, to push them into other events.

Good, thoughtful post. Kilty was ultimately (yet another) disappointment: he and Morne Nagel (another of ours) are I believe the only guys in history to go under 6.5 for the 60 and *not* go sub-10 in the 100. With all due respect to 60m and 200m, the 100m is the big one that everyone watches. The Olympic 100m is one of the biggest sporting events in the world, and there hasn't even been a single white guy in the final, never mind the podium, since I think 1984?

I think you're right about China. They take sports very seriously, like the old USSR/DDR and they've got guys under 10 seconds. Throw in the genetic research they're doing over there which is banned in the West, and who knows what kind of mutant speedsters they might be producing in a few years.

 

[jacknyc]

Bingtian Su ran 9.98 at the Chinese Championships.
It's the seventh time he has run sub-10.

 

[jacknyc]

Filippo Tortu ran 10.30 in his 100m (+0.6w) heat in Geneva, and came in 3rd.
It's unclear to me whether there is a final.
Anyway, a disappointing race and time.

 

[sprintstar]

My personal thoughts are that Boling will go sub 20 in the 200m in the next season or one after. The 100m is possible but will be far more difficult for him. I am very curious as to why he was put into such extensive weight training when he was already fast. He was doing well with his training schedule before he got to Uni, a good coach will tweek an athletes best form/training/diet etc not reinvent them. His added muscle/weight was a in my opinion directly responsible for his loss of form especially in the 200m, he was running like a soccer player, as well as struggling to carry his mass for the whole race. At the end of the day we are not him and we have no real idea as to what he has gone through, we have no idea how these NCAA champs have weighed upon him. We as a group do not know him....

I think with his coach resigning it might be a blessing, new coach might be better for him and he can also transfer to a new school if needed.

Someone touched upon LSU's athletes suddenly posting world class times etc across the board, this is a red flag just like athletes from Caribbean countries especially Jamaica dominating in T&F, SFP being the most obvious.

 

[TheBigDawg]

Sprintstar which one of our guys do you think will break 10 seconds next?

 

[freedom1]

Boling is overtrained. He needs some time off before the Olympic Trials.

 

[jacknyc]

Agreed

 

[white lightning]

Boling is overtrained. He needs some time off before the Olympic Trials.

I agree as well but if I were him I would just skip the US Olympic Trials unless he is trying to be a reserve on the 4 x 100 Relay Team but even that is doubtful that
he is fast enough with his present form. I see the big picture. Short term sacrifice for long term rewards. I have only had 2 avatar pictures in all the years I've been
on this board. The first was Christophe Lemaitre. Then around three years ago I switched my avatar to Matthew Boling. The kid is a legitimate star so I'm very excited
for next year as he will be physically, mentally and emotionally ready to take his talents to the next level. Sub 10 and Sub 20 next year. I will take a friendly wager with
anyone that disagrees.

 

[yuri malenkov]

Could any of the other 100/200 m sprinters at the NCAA final also Long Jump over 8.00m like Boling can?
Could any 100 m guys match his 400m speed?

I have to keep repeating he is in year two of his development. Lemaitre was in year five when he went sub 10. Let’s give Matt till 2024 to see if he becomes the best. I think he will.

 

[jacknyc]

Oliver Dustin of Great Britain ran 1:43.82 today in Nice.
That's a world leading time, and he's only 20 yrs old!
Britain has a lot of 800m talent right now, in both the men's and women's ranks.

 

[yuri malenkov]

Kenteris from Greece was Olympic champion in the 200. He was an often injured Gym teacher who found out he had one leg shorter than the other, got the proper Orthotic for his spikes and was World and Olympic Gold.
J Wariner was an all time great Gold Medal winning 400m legend.
Yuliya Nestsiarenka was 100m women’s Olympic Gold for Belarus.
Shubenkov in the 110m H is a medal winner and a practicing Lawyer from Russia.
An English athlete was Olympic and World Gold in the Long Jump.
All of these and others recently.

To answer Bigdawg: Trey Cunningham has a DNS in the ACC championship so he could not advance. Maybe he was feeling something and decided to focus on recovery and the Olympic Trials.

 

[mastermulti]

that equals Lem

Bingtian Su ran 9.98 at the Chinese Championships.
It's the seventh time he has run sub-10.

That equals Lemaitres number of sub 10s if memory serves

 

[mastermulti]

Yes his better event and his legs looked gone in the final 100 where he normally is the one storming home.

yep, way I saw it too

 

[chipsnsalsa]

Could any of the other 100/200 m sprinters at the NCAA final also Long Jump over 8.00m like Boling can?
Could any 100 m guys match his 400m speed?

I have to keep repeating he is in year two of his development. Lemaitre was in year five when he went sub 10. Let’s give Matt till 2024 to see if he becomes the best. I think he will.

What did he do before 2019?

 

[yuri malenkov]

400m high jump and long jump

 

[chipsnsalsa]

Oliver Dustin of Great Britain ran 1:43.82 today in Nice.
That's a world leading time, and he's only 20 yrs old!
Britain has a lot of 800m talent right now, in both the men's and women's ranks.

1500m too - Josh Kerr and Jake Wightman for the men, and Laura Muir for the women. All potential medallists. Brings back memories of the great Coe/Ovett/Cram era.

 

[jacknyc]

There is also Max Burgin and Jamie Webb in the 800m; Charlie Grice in the 1500m;
Jemma Reekie, Alexandra Bell, and Keely Hodgkinson in the 800m, and Elise McCoglan in 1500m.
The UK really kicks butt in the middle distances!

Way more prospects than the USA. And for example, I can't name a single German in either event, men's or women's.

 

[sprintstar]

The next white guy will be either Boling, Beck or Jewell in my opinion. Boling could do it at a sanctioned low level meet without the eyes on his back. I think Jewell tweaked something in the Regionals which hampered him in NCAA champs.

 

[jacknyc]

I agree that Jewell had a little tweak in the Regionals which held him back at the Championships.
But he's a senior, and he would have be very self-motivated to continue track beyond college.
It would be hard for him to get a sponser and a good coach.

Boling could do it, but I don't think it will happen this year.
Devin Quinn is a possibility, but his last race was 10.19. Need to see his next race.
Beck is motivated and still has another year left at Virginia Tech.
Browning of Australia is another possibility. He was 10.05 early in the year, and basically hasn't been seen since. Perhaps he is battling injury/tweaks.

 

[TheBigDawg]

Browning also ran a 10.09 on April 17th.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Tortu ran his PB 3 years ago aged 20. You say he will continue to improve but he hasn't gone faster in 3 years. And that's not what we saw with Shirvo, Lemaitre and Pickering.

A hundred guys can run 10.07 on a good day. I was looking for someone to blow away the field, run 9.8 or lower, and win championships. I thought we had this when lemaitre ran 9.92 aged 21, but that didn't work out. Again with boling's incredible career up till 6 months ago, but now he's well off the pace. Boling is 21 too - will he improve when the others couldn't?

I'd like to say yes, but I fear that would be the triumph of hope over experience.

narcissistic much?

how dare these young athletes, pushing themselves to their personal limits whilst pursuing a Herculean feat only a few men in history have attained, not meet your expectations!?! oh, to be an anonymous keyboard critic and throw darts that belittle others! if only they would shave a few hundredths of a second (or, to put it into perspective, improve by less than a tenth the time it takes to blink your eyes) off their 100-meter sprint, then YOU would finally feel they were worthy of your approval. pfft. with “fans” like you, no wonder so few White athletes attempt the near-impossible.

 

[white lightning]

ChipsnSalsa reminds me alot of Brutal. It could be him as he has come here under so many different user names.

 

[mastermulti]

No great news from the 2nd Oceania Track meet for last qualification chance to OGs.
Women's relay team with 43.11 missed out by 7/100ths.

Bright moment? Riley Day actually inflicted the first season defeat on Hana Basic - 11.18 to 11.20 (2.7mps). Despite the wind reading that's great PB improvement in real terms by Riley Day over her legal best of 11.50 (0.9) from 2018.
An extra 1.8mps assisting wind for this race, sure, but a whole .32 second under her PB indicates her 3 year plateau may hopefully have ended.

Men's 4x100 were a half second off the qualifying mark with their 38.97. Rohan Browning wasn't at the meeting so there's certainly 3/1oths by replacing the slowest guy with him.
But Jack Hale showed some glimpse of returning to form with 10.22 (3 mps) and defeating 2 guys that nudged him in the Aust championships. All too late though since neither he nor the 4x100 will be going to Tokyo