2021 NFL Draft

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OT Tommy Doyle was a steal in round 5. He's a huge and highly athletic left tackle who's good in pass defense.

Great pick by the Bills! They had already taken OT Spencer Brown. They probably figured Doyle was too good to pass up in the 5th.
 
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Don,

I still think the 2015 draft was worse:


1 5 WAS Brandon Scherff T
2 49 KAN Mitch Morse G
2 53 CIN Jake Fisher T
2 55 BAL Maxx Williams TE
2 57 STL Rob Havenstein T
2 59 DEN Ty Sambrailo T
2 61 TAM Ali Marpet C
3 71 CHI Hroniss Grasu C
3 75 NOR Garrett Grayson QB
3 85 CIN Tyler Kroft TE
3 89 STL Sean Mannion QB
3 92 DEN Jeff Heuerman T
3 93 IND Henry Anderson DE
4 103 NYJ Bryce Petty QB
4 117 SFO Blake Bell TE
4 119 STL Andrew Donnal T
4 129 GNB Jake Ryan OLB
4 134 SEA Mark Glowinski G
5 140 OAK Ben Heeney ILB
5 148 NOR Davis Tull OLB
5 153 SDG Kyle Emanuel OLB
5 160 PIT Jesse James TE
5 168 DET Michael Burton FB
5 169 CAR David Mayo LB
5 171 BAL Nick Boyle TE
5 173 KAN James O'Shaughnessy * - pretty sure he is mixed - white father/black mother although you couldn't tell
6 194 BUF Nick O'Leary TE
6 202 NWE A.J. Derby TE
6 206 GNB Aaron Ripkowski FB
6 208 TEN Andy Gallik C
6 212 PIT Anthony Chickillo DE
6 214 SEA Kristjan Sokoli DT
6 215 STL Cody Wichmann G
7 222 WAS Austin Reiter C
7 224 STL Bryce Hager ILB
7 225 ATL Jake Rodgers T
7 228 MIN Austin Shepherd T
7 229 JAX Ben Koyack TE
7 237 PHI Brian Mihalik DE
7 246 DAL Geoff Swaim TE
7 250 DEN Trevor Siemian QB
 

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2015 was certainly the worst class maybe ever for White quarterbacks. When Trevor Siemian was the best, you know it was a total stinker.
 

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That could well be. I hereby officially modify my post to duly recognize the beginning to end putridness of the 2015 draft.

Haha. The 2021 draft is certainly the freshest cut but the scar of the 2015 draft still remains.

The 2015 draft was awful all the way around - when looking over the names drafted in the 1st round. A documentary could be made about that - a pathetically bad draft.
 

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Don,

I still think the 2015 draft was worse:


1 5 WAS Brandon Scherff T
2 49 KAN Mitch Morse G
2 53 CIN Jake Fisher T
2 55 BAL Maxx Williams TE
2 57 STL Rob Havenstein T
2 59 DEN Ty Sambrailo T
2 61 TAM Ali Marpet C
3 71 CHI Hroniss Grasu C
3 75 NOR Garrett Grayson QB
3 85 CIN Tyler Kroft TE
3 89 STL Sean Mannion QB
3 92 DEN Jeff Heuerman T
3 93 IND Henry Anderson DE
4 103 NYJ Bryce Petty QB
4 117 SFO Blake Bell TE
4 119 STL Andrew Donnal T
4 129 GNB Jake Ryan OLB
4 134 SEA Mark Glowinski G
5 140 OAK Ben Heeney ILB
5 148 NOR Davis Tull OLB
5 153 SDG Kyle Emanuel OLB
5 160 PIT Jesse James TE
5 168 DET Michael Burton FB
5 169 CAR David Mayo LB
5 171 BAL Nick Boyle TE
5 173 KAN James O'Shaughnessy * - pretty sure he is mixed - white father/black mother although you couldn't tell
6 194 BUF Nick O'Leary TE
6 202 NWE A.J. Derby TE
6 206 GNB Aaron Ripkowski FB
6 208 TEN Andy Gallik C
6 212 PIT Anthony Chickillo DE
6 214 SEA Kristjan Sokoli DT
6 215 STL Cody Wichmann G
7 222 WAS Austin Reiter C
7 224 STL Bryce Hager ILB
7 225 ATL Jake Rodgers T
7 228 MIN Austin Shepherd T
7 229 JAX Ben Koyack TE
7 237 PHI Brian Mihalik DE
7 246 DAL Geoff Swaim TE
7 250 DEN Trevor Siemian QB

I count about 13 of these players still in the league.
 

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The family should be studied for genetic diversity, some look like Spherdic Jews, one looks Mexican and the other two are Mulattos.

Ronald Reagan coined the term Welfare queen the mom could be the portrait I'm afraid...
This story is a story of the week movie, Stuard has a father who was in and out of his life and a mother who was a sex worker addicted to drugs. As we noted many of the siblings are probably half siblings. Back in the old days the Stuard clan would have been wards of the state. Now the mother was probably cut a fat welfare cheque...https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...make-houston-grant-stuard-draft-mr-irrelevant
 

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At least the 2015 draft had 8 white defenders. This year there were only 5.
Defense has been drying up so rapidly. :( Feels like every year there’s a few guys we think can get drafted at the start of CFB season and then they don’t.

What every year teaches us is, no matter what, there are no truly “fair” coaches- There are still some who are better than most (Belichick, McVay, McDermott, Zimmer), but even they are unreliable. For example, this year the Vikings clearly got what looks to be a “Caste makeover”, and the Patriots got one over the last few years.
And some things never change- like Zac Taylor’s love of sumos. This also reminds us- coaching tree means nothing in terms of “fairness”. Taylor is from the McVay tree; Most of Belichick’s assistants are all total caste clowns, and Stefanski (Zimmer tree) began showing his true colors after a good 2020 offseason (that lightened the TE room, replaced a sumo RT with a paleface, and added Sendejo at S). You can never be too certain, unless they’re a caste clown.
 

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Glad Funk was drafted even if it was the 7th round. Kupp will have a fellow whitey to hang with now that Goff is gone. As long as the Negro Felon League keeps trying to make defenses 95% negro guys like MC will run roughshod over them. I don't agree with how the owners are slowly turning the league negro and any white person who doesn't realize this is one brick short of a load. Even my cousins who are American cheer for the Shytehawks, Falcons etc, they are afraid to say anything about the blatant racism so they cheer for their states team. Hypocracy... if you dont want to stand up and fight verbally then do it at the box office dont watch or go to the games, period.
 

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Defense has been drying up so rapidly. :( Feels like every year there’s a few guys we think can get drafted at the start of CFB season and then they don’t.

What every year teaches us is, no matter what, there are no truly “fair” coaches- There are still some who are better than most (Belichick, McVay, McDermott, Zimmer), but even they are unreliable. For example, this year the Vikings clearly got what looks to be a “Caste makeover”, and the Patriots got one over the last few years.
And some things never change- like Zac Taylor’s love of sumos. This also reminds us- coaching tree means nothing in terms of “fairness”. Taylor is from the McVay tree; Most of Belichick’s assistants are all total caste clowns, and Stefanski (Zimmer tree) began showing his true colors after a good 2020 offseason (that lightened the TE room, replaced a sumo RT with a paleface, and added Sendejo at S). You can never be too certain, unless they’re a caste clown.

What they have done to the defensive side of the ball after the early to mid 2010s white pass rushing revival has been tough to watch. Much like with WR - a small blip on the radar to upset the status quo only to be overcorrected by drafting 30+ black WRs every year. When sheer numbers are utilized the caste system's strong grip on maintaining the status quo remains as powerful as ever across the board.

Most of the inroads we have seen are due to UDFAs sticking around and somehow surviving the caste system long enough to stick an make an impact. It's obvious that the whole system starts with college recruiting - that's where the biggest funneling of white athletes occur. If anything is to really change it needs to change there first - white kids and their families can't blame dumb anymore when they possess the physical traits, athletic ability and production at the high school level to give the standard "we don't know why no one is recruiting him" line. With anti-White fervor reaching a tipping point across society and the masses slowly recognizing that White Replacement and marginalization are real things perhaps it will cross over to the college recruiting level as more and more parents decide enough is enough.
 

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Glad Funk was drafted even if it was the 7th round. Kupp will have a fellow whitey to hang with now that Goff is gone. As long as the Negro Felon League keeps trying to make defenses 95% negro guys like MC will run roughshod over them. I don't agree with how the owners are slowly turning the league negro and any white person who doesn't realize this is one brick short of a load. Even my cousins who are American cheer for the Shytehawks, Falcons etc, they are afraid to say anything about the blatant racism so they cheer for their states team. Hypocracy... if you dont want to stand up and fight verbally then do it at the box office dont watch or go to the games, period.

Definitely. You can at least not support the racists. Don't spend any money on an NFL team. Never agree with any negative assessment of a white player. Just don't say anything.

If you still want to follow a team watch it on free TV. Don't give them any of your money.
 

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This is one reason why I enjoy college football better than the NFL. Yes the racism against whites goes on at all levels including college but it's not as over the top as the NFL yet. I hope it never goes all in on this cultural marxism
movement. It probably will unless enough parents and students fight back against the destruction of the country we love so much. I think most of us here root more for players than teams. At least the majority of the time. I find it
interesting that both the NBA and College Basketball have whitened up a little more while the numbers in the nfl football have gotten worse. Either way we must continue the fight in sports and in life.
 

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Dismal draft. Correlates with what is going on with the rest of our crumbling nation. Brings to mind a line from a Sting song: "In a world that's winding down/You make the best of what's still around." Feminists complain of a glass ceiling but they should try being a white football player. But there are always a few who manage to break that barrier and excel. And I'm not talking about the JJ Watts and CMAC of the world. The ones who are criminally underrated and manage to surprise. The later picks who manage to stick and contribute and help a team win. The "value picks." I feel in the back of their minds some GMs and coaches are always open to those, as long as they're within the twenty percent quota.

And meanwhile there are the names. Okay, it's their culture. I understand that. But it's not my culture. Could they even do this song with the names found in "today's NFL?"

 

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I think what is most revealing to me is how the cast-iron logic of the caste system has accelerated the purge of white players from forbidden positions, despite the (relative) success of white-friendly teams and players in those forbidden spots.

There is an interesting parallel with other ideologies elsewhere in society, such as feminism, where the claim is made over and over that a woman can do everything just as well as a man - but supposedly there are a whole bunch of things women can do that men can't.

So it seems to be with the caste system. While it is a given that the magical race have levels of upside unattainable to the melanin-deprived - it is also heavily reinforced that there is no area, mental or physical, where white players can be seen to have any natural advantage.

I think that is why NFL pundits and fans are so keen to compare up-and-coming black players with established white stars, but never the reverse. Sure, JJ Watt, Luke Kuechly and Jordy Nelson were great players - but how much better could they have been if they were black! So even when teams are on the hunt for the next star in the mold of someone like JJ Watt, there is still a preference for a black player over a white one.

When I was looking at various Patriots forums pre-draft, it was amazing to see how many people were wanting to see Justin Fields or Trey Lance drafted instead of Mac Jones. While I think ultimately most fans were pretty happy to get Jones when he was still there at #15 - even after 20 years of success with the ultimate pocket passer there was a feeling that the Patriots could do just a little bit better if they had a "real" athlete at quarterback.

It's a classic case of heads I win, tails you lose.
 
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Indeed, it is wholly indicative of the Left’s ingenious ability to play the long game. They know Marxism could never thrive or even be wanted based on merit. But what they foresaw, while us conservatives maintained our individual-minded existence, is that in order to thrive they needed to brainwash the masses over a long period of time. They have spent decades subtly pushing their agendas. They have owned cultural institutions and it is our fault that it has come to where we are today.

In a nutshell, our strength - our rugged individualism- has also been our downfall.
 

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I think what is most revealing to me is how the cast-iron logic of the caste system has accelerated the purge of white players from forbidden positions, despite the (relative) success of white-friendly teams and players in those forbidden spots.

There is an interesting parallel with other ideologies elsewhere in society, such as feminism, where the claim is made over and over that a woman can do everything just as well as a man - but supposedly there are a whole bunch of things women can do that men can't.

So it seems to be with the caste system. While it is a given that the magical race have levels of upside unattainable to the melanin-deprived - it is also heavily reinforced that there is no area, mental or physical, where white players can be seen to have any natural advantage.

I think that is why NFL pundits and fans are so keen to compare up-and-coming black players with established white stars, but never the converse. Sure, JJ Watt, Luke Kuechly and Jordy Nelson were great players - but how much better could they have been if they were black! So even when teams are on the hunt for the next star in the mold of someone like JJ Watt, there is still a preference for a black player over a white one.

When I was looking at various Patriots forums pre-draft, it was amazing to see how many people were wanting to see Justin Fields or Trey Lance drafted instead of Mac Jones. While I think ultimately most fans were pretty happy to get Jones when he was still there at #15 - even after 20 years of success with the ultimate pocket passer there was a feeling that the Patriots could do just a little bit better if they had a "real" athlete at quarterback.

It's a classic case of heads I win, tails you lose.

Fantastic post - 100% true
 
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Indeed, it is wholly indicative of the Left’s ingenious ability to play the long game. They know Marxism could never thrive or even be wanted based on merit. But what they foresaw, while us conservatives maintained our individual-minded existence, is that in order to thrive they needed to brainwash the masses over a long period of time. They have spent decades subtly pushing their agendas. They have owned cultural institutions and it is our fault that it has come to where we are today.

In a nutshell, our strength - our rugged individualism- has also been our downfall.
True, but the bigger problem is the open borders that have allowed 100 million n0n-white scum to invade our lands. These non-whites can't wait to come here, but yet they hate us at the same time. And the leftists do all they can to whip up anti-white hatred among the non-white invaders and to brainwash them into believing that whites are evil.

The left was not able to accomplish what they have without importing a 100 million strong force of invaders filled with anti-white rage. This is how they've outvoted, outbred, and overwhelmed us.

The communist ideas and strategies didn't win over the American people, so they simply replaced us.

They perform the works of their father, satan, which is why they sneak, lie, steal, silence us, and undermine wholesome values.
 

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I agree the alien invaders are a huge problem. But bigger still is the groundwork laid by the cultural Marxists that allowed the unfettered, unaccounted invasion to happen. Were everyone not so afraid of being called a racist or nationalist, the border would have been secured long ago.

The insidious nature of Marxism the has taken over our cultural institutions has conditioned, nay brainwashed, the last two generations to hate their heritage and the very freedom their country once stood for. That is the long game that the Left has mopped the floor with us.
 

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All of my buddies and most normal guys I know like the white athletes and root for them, prefer them to blacks, not even solely because of racism but just because we support our own. The thing is, these are the guys too busy being normal functioning adults and in result don’t have as much of a voice on social media like the DWFs have.

so when you look at Twitter it sucks seeing all these goofy cuck losers hating on white players, but in reality I know there are many , many like us. Most not as hardcore as us given they don’t browse this forum, but still, they root for the same stuff we root for.
 

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The Jets signed a OLineman from BYU to go along with Zach Wilson. I think the guy'll probably make the team.
 

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Jacque, I think you raise a good point. But we need to become a more vocal minority, unafraid of the “consequences” if the silent majority is to become no longer silent. We must continue to pave the way.

It sickens me to see so many worthy white men who have played their asses off for years get snubbed due only to their skin color. We should be celebrating another great draft filled with 60% or more athletic, alpha white men rather than the continually dwindling percentages. It is infuriating.
 

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Haha that's funny booth. Have you forgotten? He's too short, too slow, doesn't have that wrist flick, played for a wannabe D-1 school, and too white. Sooner or later they'll make the QB like every other position. A white QB will have to be the very best, the biggest, strongest, fastest, play for a national champion, walk the dog, etc.. to get drafted. It's only a matter of time.
Tom7SBW's who??
Sorry, Carolina Speed I hope this is what you were asking it's my grandson. IF this is not what you are asking just let me know.
 
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