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Yes, this is an example of anti-white bias. The writer says all 11 defenders could run him down solely to ridicule Laird. A 300 pound lineman is obviously not going to run down Laird. Laird ran a 4.56 40 at his pro day, a respectable time.

The idea that Laird is slow is based solely on a racist stereotype that all whites are slow.
Beta Male alert....https://thedraftnetwork.com/author/Benjamin-Solak
He makes the gimp from Pulp Fiction look like the Marlboro Man...
 

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The lame comment about Laird's speed is a result of either laziness or spite. Disparaging white athletes just makes some of these noobs feel good. They enjoy doing it for some reason.
 

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Offensive tackle Jonah Williams is being projected as a guard by many in the mainstream media. The mainstream media does this all the time to white offensive tackles. They always try to move them to guard.

It's part of a narrative, to portray white men as non-athletic. Tackles need to be more athletic than guards therefore the mainstream media doesn't want white men playing tackle because it goes against the narrative. If you pay attention they do this every draft and for almost every tackle. If they do project them as a tackle it's only at right tackle, "because they're not athletic enough to play left tackle."

It's part of a larger narrative to promote the idea that black males are superior to white men, using athletics as a means to do this. It's part of our black supremacist, anti-white society.
 
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Beta Male alert....https://thedraftnetwork.com/author/Benjamin-Solak ....He makes the gimp from Pulp Fiction look like the Marlboro Man...

Yes, the photo is not surprising at all. I always assumed Solak was a Polish surname. The New York Yankees traded top 2b prospect Nick Solak to Tampa Bay last year. He's expected to eventually start for the Rays. That's the only Solak I know of, so I could be wrong?

Anyhow, I seriously doubt the Beta draft-cuck Solak is Polish. Considering his first name is "Benjamin" and he's a undergrad at UChicago, and appears to be a Asian mix, I assume he has a Jewish father and a Asian mother. Throw in the fact that he seems to be rabidly anti-white (in most of his articles), I'd be utterly shocked if he wasn't Jewish. Can't imagine that sort of anti-white bias coming from a normal Polish Catholic kid, even if he was Eurasian?


The lame comment about Laird's speed is a result of either laziness or spite. Disparaging white athletes just makes some of these noobs feel good. They enjoy doing it for some reason.

Absolutely. "Laziness" is less likely than "Spite", but it's possible. Don't forget, a lot of these self-anointed "draft experts" are expected to somehow do scouting reports for several hundred prospects, based only on what they observe on TV. That has to be difficult, if not impossible, particularly for a full time "college student". With that, most will simply rehash stupid anti-white stereotypes that have been floating around for decades to fill out their silly "scouting reports", who no one reads anyway. Reality is, this clown is probably just pulling stuff out of his ass and has no idea what he's writing. His biggest sports accomplishment was probably outrunning a 300 pound, middle-aged rabbi for a TD in a game of "touch football" at his local JCC.

Also, why should anyone believe "Benjamin Solak" is qualified to break down film on any NFL prospect? Here's a scouting report from a few years back, where a former semi-pro tailback and an NFL scout for over 3 decades discusses Zach Zenner's speed and overall game. Note how radically it differs from the typical DWF scouting report for Zenner or any white tailback: https://nationalfootballpost.com/nfp-prospect-focus-zach-zenner-and-deandre-smelter/


It's part of a larger narrative to promote the idea that black males are superior to white men, using athletics as a means to do this. It's part of our black supremacist, anti-white society.

Yes, no doubt Solak fits into that group. Don't be surprised if he's eventually rewarded for that with a low-paying job as a low-level writer at NFL.com or Weenie world. The idea that all 11 defenders could run him down is simply laughable. Yea, right, sumo defensive tackles that run 5.9/40 (with pads on) are going to run down a All-Pac 12 Conference caliber tailback? That only makes sense in some bizarre Kosher fantasy-land. Fact is, after looking at the 40 times from the Indy Combine, I doubt most safety prospects could run him down from behind.
 
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Yes that report on Laird was particularly ugly.

I haven't elevated Laird to CM status and I have consistently stated he is a 5th to 6th round type talent. I'm trying to examine things realistically. This nasty powder puff punk Solak never watched California play. Laird never had any space his senior season. When he had space his junior season he outran opponents. His offense ( think what Josh Allen had to deal with for the Bills) stunk to high heaven.

Rex Burkhead finally got a chance to shine in spots this past season. And he came through when it mattered most. I see no reason Laird can't fill that same important role. But the gate keepers are making damn sure he never gets a chance to prove it.
 

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Return specialist Kyle Groeneweg from Iowa ran their fastest 40 today in 4.43. He is 5'10" 190.

Again a nice 7th round flier that NFL teams in the long running Caste Age wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. They will look at 5'9" 157 pound black players though.

See below picture of Iowa pro day participants and why Iowa is a team I respect.

And above that a mini write up on some of the skill players.

https://www.thegazette.com/iowa-foo...fl-draft-stock-easley-fant-hockenson-20190325





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One NFL scout in Morgantown, W.V., just texted that QB Will Grier “put on a show” for NFL Teams in attendance and predicted he’s “a riser.” The WVU QB is expected to meet with at least 10 teams before the draft, including the Giants, Redskins, Chargers, Pats and Saints.

^Like seeing Iowa using local athletes.
 
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It is one of the greatest shames this draft that beyond the "solid" four white wide receivers that are brought up as far as the draft that the list hasn't expanded despite enormous workouts from players like Scott Miller. The Miller situation, even given the strong caste backdraft, is still remarkably strange in the way he is being ignored.

About that solid four. I still feel four white WRs will get drafted but my confidence level on that has slipped.

Andy Isabella is a lock but I have no read on actually when he will get drafted (somewhere between rounds 1-4) but my hope is he isn't drafted by a team that features a white slot like Buffalo, Tennessee, Patriots or even the Steelers who I would hope are grooming Switzer as a full time slot. I don't want him landing on nowhere teams either like the Cardinals or Buccaneers. I would hope the team that drafts him wants to slide him right in from day one. He is obviously my favorite player in this draft and I suspect most here will be paying attention to his fate big time.

I am confident David Sills will get drafted but again I have little idea of where or when. I suspect he will be a day three pick and thinking rounds 3-6.

Hunter Renfrow seemed like a lock but now I'm getting concerned. Remember last year most mock drafts had Trey Quinn going in the 5th round on most lists and the 6th round at the latest. He turned out to be the last player chosen in the entire draft. I still think he gets drafted but I could see him slipping down into the 6th or 7th rounds.

Cody Thompson is the least likely of the four to get drafted. But I think his workout numbers helped him. His 40 was standard issue (4.57) but his 20 yard shuttle at 4.03 suggests an extremely athletic mover. In fact he scored very high in all the agility drills which suggest he will turn out to be better than most predict. Also showed explosive legs with a near 39 inch vertical. Nice size at 6'1" and 205 and his college tape in general shows he can get downfield and is also a consistent TD maker.

So what will be the problem?

The answer is other black wide receivers who weren't originally thought of as draft types will crop up as scouts etc. fall in love with their workouts. This is in direct opposition to how they react to terrific white workouts and there is no greater example of that than Scott Miller. If Miller was black the media would have pounced and scouts would perk up and like a magic trick he would get drafted amidst a trail of superlatives.

If things were fair, ( what is that?) in my book five to eight white wide receivers deserve to get drafted and I am not including return specialists like Michael Walker or Kyle Groeneweg. I think those two players deserve to be picked in the 7th round as fliers.

Even a month out this seems to be the WR outlook. Gun to my head I still say Thompson slips in to make it four white WRs drafted.

But we will likely have to sweat this one out folks with the understanding if things take a turn for the worse ( it often does) only two will get drafted.

And several black "upside " risers, who will most assuredly not pan out, could take their place(s).
 

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Duke is having their pro day and QB Daniel Jones is apparently doing well. His 4.82 time at the combine wasn't indicative of his natural athleticism and like so many white players he looked like he had never run a 40 before.


Probably had some elementary training to help him out for his pro day.

Well I am hearing he ran a 4.67 on his pro day today which is closer to his real speed. A player some see as slipping but to me he looks like an Alex Smith clone. Alex was a number one pick back when. Jones is a very heady and nimble QB. Has tremendous fluidity. Alex Smith in my mind has always been an above average QB so I think Jones will be a steal in this draft. His Duke team was subpar and he was the key reason they competed.

Others are comparing him to Ryan Tannehill but I see more Alex Smith although they are somewhat similar.Before his great workout today Mel Kiper was raving about the fact Jones is a great game day QB. Forget all the other stuff when the lights are on he performs. Remember he was the MVP of the Senior Bowl after many scouts were slagging him the entire week

My favorite QB in this draft. I consider Trace McSorley, another favorite, a utility QB like Taysom Hill.

Look for Jones' stock to move up after today.
 
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Cole Holcomb just ran a 4.48 @ UNC Pro Day .. 6'1" 235

Here is a link to training highlights. Interesting comments from the trainer and his peers.
 

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Thanks for the heads up Nolan. I knew NC had a pro day but I wasn't expecting Holcomb to work out since he already blew up the regional combine. It is a rare day indeed that a player runs an additional 40 after blitzing it at a combine. Most always they sit on the number.

Not Cole. Gives you an idea of what an athletic stud this guy is and how tough he seems. I am proud to say he is a member of my Troy Apke Club ( currently 4 members ) which represents top of the charts athleticism, great college career and virtually little media buzz).

This LB is arguably the most athletic LB in this draft.

I will flesh out some other numbers. He didn't jump a vertical since he basically jumped 40 inches at the regional combine. The rest of his workout numbers are top of the line and then some.

Three cone-6.77

40 yard dash- ( as mentioned above) 4.48

20 yard shuttle-4.18

Bench-22

Why work these players out if you don't want to bother with them?

Holcomb is a prime example of a sideline to sideline speed demon LB who led the ACC in tackles. So not only can he really move. He knows what to do when he arrives unlike so many other black LBs who run well but can't tackle or escape blocks worth a crap.

I have a third round grade on Holcombe. But for the "authorities" though he is seen as a fringe/borderline draft pick. Meaning he might get snagged in the 7th round if he is lucky.

Kiss my ass jerk holes.

PS: This has been a great day for both QB Daniel Jones who I believe just moved himself back into first round discussion and Cole Holcombe who keeps proving he is an athletic beast that won't settle for being in the background.
 
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Yes, the photo is not surprising at all. I always assumed Solak was a Polish surname. The New York Yankees traded top 2b prospect Nick Solak to Tampa Bay last year. He's expected to eventually start for the Rays. That's the only Solak I know of, so I could be wrong?

Anyhow, I seriously doubt the Beta draft-cuck Solak is Polish. Considering his first name is "Benjamin" and he's a undergrad at UChicago, and appears to be a Asian mix, I assume he has a Jewish father and a Asian mother. Throw in the fact that he seems to be rabidly anti-white (in most of his articles), I'd be utterly shocked if he wasn't Jewish. Can't imagine that sort of anti-white bias coming from a normal Polish Catholic kid, even if he was Eurasian?




Absolutely. "Laziness" is less likely than "Spite", but it's possible. Don't forget, a lot of these self-anointed "draft experts" are expected to somehow do scouting reports for several hundred prospects, based only on what they observe on TV. That has to be difficult, if not impossible, particularly for a full time "college student". With that, most will simply rehash stupid anti-white stereotypes that have been floating around for decades to fill out their silly "scouting reports", who no one reads anyway. Reality is, this clown is probably just pulling stuff out of his ass and has no idea what he's writing. His biggest sports accomplishment was probably outrunning a 300 pound, middle-aged rabbi for a TD in a game of "touch football" at his local JCC.

Also, why should anyone believe "Benjamin Solak" is qualified to break down film on any NFL prospect? Here's a scouting report from a few years back, where a former semi-pro tailback and an NFL scout for over 3 decades discusses Zach Zenner's speed and overall game. Note how radically it differs from the typical DWF scouting report for Zenner or any white tailback: https://nationalfootballpost.com/nfp-prospect-focus-zach-zenner-and-deandre-smelter/




Yes, no doubt Solak fits into that group. Don't be surprised if he's eventually rewarded for that with a low-paying job as a low-level writer at NFL.com or Weenie world. The idea that all 11 defenders could run him down is simply laughable. Yea, right, sumo defensive tackles that run 5.9/40 (with pads on) are going to run down a All-Pac 12 Conference caliber tailback? That only makes sense in some bizarre Kosher fantasy-land. Fact is, after looking at the 40 times from the Indy Combine, I doubt most safety prospects could run him down from behind.

I have followed the draft pretty closely for about 15 years now. This year is the first I have pulled back in my research, posts and opinions. You are correct on all your points Truthteller. I'll stick to the points you have made in bold (although I thoroughly enjoyed your whole post - made me laugh). Laziness, stereotyping and pulling stuff out of his ass - I can honestly say that those are the three common themes I see written in scouting reports over the past decade plus. I honestly do not think spite plays a role at this point - perhaps back when the caste system was taking hold that was a factor but that was over a generation ago and I think it has now evolved into laziness/complacency and lack of critical thinking/observation. They can't really be experts on the hundreds of draft eligible prospects so they just throw terms together in jumbled nonsensical paragraphs to try and put their own clever witty spin on what the consensus opinion is of a certain player. No matter who the "expert" is - Kiper, McGay, Maycuck, Jeremiah, Brooks, the dozens of no name self-anointed draft "experts" running their own websites or dweebie keyboard warrior draftniks - none of them dare think outside the box. They may disagree on player rankings to a point (much of that is made for TV/page views) but it is obvious that overall they all pretty much do their part to keep the status quo (caste system) firmly entrenched.

Many of these scouting reports are essentially "paint by numbers" but with words. We have all discussed and called out the typical terms they use for white athletes - blue collar, lunch-pail, hard-hat, gym-rat etc. Very backhanded compliments/safe insults. The way they make up words really irks me - the one that got me the most up until this year was when Matt Ioannidis was labeled as a "muscle shark" in a scouting report- those two words mean absolutely nothing - it's total nonsense. A week or so ago I was reading a scouting report on Ben Burr-Kirven and he was labeled as a tackle zombie - what does that mean?
 

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Shadowlight/NolanCromwell,

Thanks for the updates on Holcomb. Obviously a very athletic and productive player. We can only hope his strong shrine week coupled with his regional combine/pro day performances get him noticed. He's definitely another white defensive player we can see get drafted.

Also, it's great to hear Daniel Jones had a strong pro day. This whole draft cycle he has been made into a forgotten player thanks to the media hyping up Murray and Haskins (to a lesser extent). I don't think Jones would of declared had he not been given a 1st round projection. His background with Cutcliffe (coached both Manning's) should also been seen as a positive as he has been exposed to more pro style concepts along with the simplified read option/one read stuff that the black quarterback led offenses play in.

By all accounts Lock, Grier, Jones, Thorson, Stidham all had solid pro days and none of them hurt themselves at the combine. All of these QBs have 2+ years of starting experience (Haskins and Murray are both one year wonders - this was always viewed as a negative but is now just a minor talking point). Jones and Lock are the only ones seen as viable 1st rounders at this point but it wouldn't be bad if some QB needy team or team with a veteran QB drafted the others in the 2nd/3rd rounds. Most of the black quarterback helmed teams could use one of these guys to push the incumbent (and in almost all cases no better than average non-white staters - Winston (wants to play at 250lbs this year making him fatter and slower than he already is/turnover machine), Mariota (2nd overall pick game manager/injury prone), Scam (best years are behind him) , Watson (take away Hopkins and he is very average, Prescott - low tier starting QB, Eraserhead - inept passer ). The narrative outside of a 5'9" midget QB going number 1 to the Cardinals is that the Giants (and potentially the Bengals) need a new QB - both have been linked to Haskins. More white replacement.
 

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Thanks for the great reply, Leonardfan.

Kind of reminds of an article I read from a big city newspaper. An actual NFL regional scout tells a writer how difficult it is for him to put forth scouting reports for players in his own, limited region of country. Then openly questions how someone that rarely leaves his house can scout the entire nation accurately?

He said every fall he visits every college in his region at least twice, and goes to practices and games and talks to every prospect and their coaches (in his designated region) multiple times. He then watches game film and breaks it down even more. And he still finds it difficult to get a real accurate reading on the 100 to 150 prospects he's paid to scout in his region. Now we are supposed to believe some douchebag (i.e. Todd McGoy, Lance Zierlein) can scout the entire nation while rarely leaving their den or basement? You are probably talking about 700 prospects, draft picks and priority free agents? That's impossible.

At some point they have to just start making things up, and relying on stereotypes. I think the Caste system actually helps these pretend Net scouts, as they can simply write off talented whites at Caste positions as latter round (or undraftable) talents, knowing full well that the vast majority of white RB's, WR's, DL's, LB's and DB's are going to be screwed over anyway in the NFL and they will be proven correct.

It also goes on at the college level. Prior to Joe Paterno being taken down by the Sandusky scandal, he made a great comment regarding the scouting services like Rivals and others. I do not remember it word by word, but it went something like this: I have a team full of experienced coaches out on the recruiting trail and we can barely cover the state of Pennsylvania. Now I'm supposed to believe someone that delivers Pizza's during the day can scout the entire nation from his computer at night?



Back to modern day NFL. Check this "scouting report" from Lance Zierlein for Ryan Nall, who was the NFC's top pre-season rusher: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ryan-nall?id=32462018-0002-5602-3398-489802ebbc60

Weaknesses:
  • Very tight in the hips
  • Slow to gather weight and make a sharp downhill cut
  • Dull feet are unable to make sudden cuts and elusive movements
  • Needs wide open runway outside the tackles
  • Running style is limited
  • Gets in trouble quickly when he gets cute or tries to bounce runs wide
  • Lacks ability to handle early traffic or string moves together
  • Has trouble creating enough early acceleration to create tackle-breaking power
Forget about accuracy, what do those things I hi-lighted even mean? Is that some sort of pretend scout Caste talk? Talk about pulling things out of your ass? Per my recollection, Nall had an excellent overall Combine showing. Even his 4.58/40 was not terrible for his size. LaGarrett Blount ran in the 4.7's* and was even smaller than Nall and he was never considered a fullback or H-Back prospect in the NFL?

Would be fascinating to see the scouting reports Lance Zierlein put forth for black running backs from the 2018 draft (or recent years) that had similar measurables to Nall? My guess is they are totally different.

*https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/legarrette-blount
 

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Holcomb will make the league ,,at least as an undrafed free agent ,,,although I do think he will get drafted ....he is to too good not to. ...nfl ...I think would make him a fullback ..,.but with his speed and size this is a power running back ...any intelligent observer can see that .,,,,and I would hope that mccaffreys success at RB should influence coaches to look past colour ...but ...but...but ....we will see ...but Holcomb has the ability and the nfl suits his game .....
 

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If anyone can find the pro day results for Arizona WR Tony Ellison and San Diego State DB Parker Baldwin that would be great, 2 talented white players who I can’t even find a word about on their pro day except just where it says that they participated. No results, how can an industry this big be this hard to find numbers for???? I can find pro day results for D3 schools but not major programs that send players to the NFL every year??
 

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Iowa DB Jake Gervase (6’0 210lbs) ran a 4.48 and had a 37.5” vertical. Solid numbers.

Princeton had 4 intriguing players workout as well.

WR/TE Stephen Carlson 6’4 241lbs
WR/TE Jesper Horstead 6’3.5 229lbs
QB/Utility John Lovett 6’2 234lbs 4.56!!!!!
RB Charlie Volker 5’11 213lbs 4.46
 

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CBS Sports draft expert has posted a 7th round mock draft, if anyone cares?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...iots-swipe-josh-rosen-bears-land-corner-help/

This mock drafter does not seem as overtly hostile to whites, like the CBS Sports' "top draft expert", a mulatto with rounder shaped-Drew Carey glasses. But make no mistake this is not pretty. For example, the last few college pre-season's we were led to believe David Sills and Porter Gustin were first round caliber players, or close to that (top 2 rounds). Gustin last's into the 7th round and Sills drops to the 5th round in this mock. NFL.com even had a long feature article praising Sills' size, athletic ability and draft potential last fall.

Few days ago I mentioned (AAF thread) a great college wide receiver from UCLA back in the early 1990's -- Sean LaChapelle. Sean was a true Pac-10 superstar as a sophomore with NFL prospect Tommy Maddox at quarterback. Between Maddox leaving early for the NFL and injuries, LaChapelle's had a mediocre junior year. Realizing the Bruins' new quarterbacks stunk, he left early for the NFL, figuring his natural talent (size, speed and hands) would get him into the top rounds. He fell to round 5 and was screwed over multiple times in the NFL. Let's hope this mock drafter is wrong. If David Sills drops to round 5, or lower, there is a real good chance he never plays in the NFL, or gets jerked around on the bottom of rosters/practice squads for a couple years, like LaChapelle and countless other tall, fast white receivers, until he is fully "cleansed" by age 26.

Basically, this is how the NFL works: Players drafted in the Top 3 rounds are pretty much assured a roster spot (barring serious injury) for at least one or two seasons and should get a fair chance. 4th rounders usually get at least one full season on the roster. After that, all bets are off. 5th to 7th rounders are fighting for scraps on the bottom of the roster and can easily be purged. That's one of the key components to the Caste system. Slide very talented whites to the 5th round or lower (including undrafted) and you have a built in excuse to "purge" them early -- Dylan Cantrell and Ryan Nall are perfect examples. They both had absolutely stellar pre-season's, but who cared when they were cut? Their "draft status" confirmed to your average DWF they were mediocre, fringe prospects?

Hunter Renfrow is projected as a latter round pick (7th round) to the suddenly odious, Caste Raiders. That's not great, but as a smaller, slot being drafted after the 4th round isn't as devastating -- a lot of examples to prove this. For tall, talented white receivers, expected to line up at flanker or split end it could be toxic.
 
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Iowa DB Jake Gervase (6’0 210lbs) ran a 4.48 and had a 37.5” vertical. Solid numbers.

Princeton had 4 intriguing players workout as well.

WR/TE Stephen Carlson 6’4 241lbs
WR/TE Jesper Horstead 6’3.5 229lbs
QB/Utility John Lovett 6’2 234lbs 4.56!!!!!
RB Charlie Volker 5’11 213lbs 4.46

Great numbers especially for Gervase who has been totally written off after being a very good DB for the Hawkeyes. His bowl game performance was stellar and yet their is no "buzz" or interest on him. His athletic mesarueables are better than those of former Iowa DB Desmon King who is now playing for the Chargers.
 

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AJ Ouellette and the Ohio Bobcats have their pro day tomorrow.....
Getting drafted seems a long shot.....Getting into a camp seems likely, but he needs good numbers for the shallow sons of bitches that call themselves scouts.....
 

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CBS Sports draft expert has posted a 7th round mock draft, if anyone cares?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...iots-swipe-josh-rosen-bears-land-corner-help/

This mock drafter does not seem as overtly hostile to whites, like the CBS Sports' "top draft expert", a mulatto with rounder shaped-Drew Carey glasses. But make no mistake this is not pretty. For example, the last few college pre-season's we were led to believe David Sills and Porter Gustin were first round caliber players, or close to that (top 2 rounds). Gustin last's into the 7th round and Sills drops to the 5th round in this mock. NFL.com even had a long feature article praising Sills' size, athletic ability and draft potential last fall.

Few days ago I mentioned (AAF thread) a great college wide receiver from UCLA back in the early 1990's -- Sean LaChapelle. Sean was a true Pac-10 superstar as a sophomore with NFL prospect Tommy Maddox at quarterback. Between Maddox leaving early for the NFL and injuries, LaChapelle's had a mediocre junior year. Realizing the Bruins' new quarterbacks stunk, he left early for the NFL, figuring his natural talent (size, speed and hands) would get him into the top rounds. He fell to round 5 and was screwed over multiple times in the NFL. Let's hope this mock drafter is wrong. If David Sills drops to round 5, or lower, there is a real good chance he never plays in the NFL, or gets jerked around on the bottom of rosters/practice squads for a couple years, like LaChapelle and countless other tall, fast white receivers, until he is fully "cleansed" by age 26.

Basically, this is how the NFL works: Players drafted in the Top 3 rounds are pretty much assured a roster spot (barring serious injury) for at least one or two seasons and should get a fair chance. 4th rounders usually get at least one full season on the roster. After that, all bets are off. 5th to 7th rounders are fighting for scraps on the bottom of the roster and can easily be purged. That's one of the key components to the Caste system. Slide very talented whites to the 5th round or lower (including undrafted) and you have a built in excuse to "purge" them early -- Dylan Cantrell and Ryan Nall are perfect examples. They both had absolutely stellar pre-season's, but who cared when they were cut? Their "draft status" confirmed to your average DWF they were mediocre, fringe prospects?

Hunter Renfrow is projected as a latter round pick (7th round) to the suddenly odious, Caste Raiders. That's not great, but as a smaller, slot being drafted after the 4th round isn't as devastating -- a lot of examples to prove this. For tall, talented white receivers, expected to line up at flanker or split end it could be toxic.

Even though Jordy wasn't used as a deep threat the past few years with his retirement I do wonder who will be the next Jordy type of player?

When you consider most college programs don't have white wide receivers run long patterns the pickings for a deep white threat are going to continue to be slim pickings.

Chad Hansen showed that promise at CAL but he has never been able to break through in the NFL.

Worth noting the biggest long threats the past few seasons are players who slipped through the cracks and weren't part of the usual college initiation practice.

Chris Hogan lead the NFL in yards per catch in 2016 but subsequently his long pass patterns have dried up. Adam Thielen has scored on long touchdowns the past few years. Neither one went to a big University and neither was drafted.

The flanker type non slot white WR who has excelled at a big school and is perfectly groomed for an NFL career has become exceedingly rare. Flanker type WRs David Sills and Cody Thompson scored on a lot of home run balls in college but neither possesses Jordy's incredible deep speed.

Scott Miller ( who won't get drafted) and Andy Isabella have blinding speed but they aren't flanker types due to their size.

Next year unless someone comes from out of the blue, I don't see any white flanker types being drafted. In fact next year we may not see a white WR drafted at all.

The biggest hurdle is the "slotting" ( no pun intended) mechanism that takes place as early as Pee Wee football. There white DBs are discouraged and certainly it is now taboo for a white to play CB. And at the WR position most whites settle in as slot types.

This pattern funnels through HS at an even bigger rate and by the time white WRs hit college coaching staffs rarely consider them more than short pattern dunk and dink types. Meanwhile college teams are always over forcing deep ball patterns to black WRs.

It will be difficult for white flankers to break through given these rigid barriers that are put up but we can only hope this trend is bucked the way Jordy bucked the system. When he arrived deep white threats were long gone. Think CM's dad Ed who was a terrific deep threat.

Things can change for the better. Stanford's incoming freshman WR Colby Bowman is a classical deep threat.

Unfortunately it looks like in the next two or three years we won't be witnessing the next "Jordy."

PS: As LaChapelle was excelling at UCLA crosstown at USC speed demon Gary Wellman was making waves too. Two great white WRs at UCLA and USC playing at the same time in 1990 when Wellman was a senior superstar and LaChapelle was a freshman flash. Will it ever happen again? Place your bets!
 
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Conversely as we see the white flanker position drift towards white CB barren territory there has been an upsurge in NFL white tight ends who can get up the field. While welcome to say the least it isn't an even trade off by any means.

That said this draft features plenty of up the field white TEs. One of them is Dax Raymond out of Utah State. I saw Dax in one of the all star bowl games (can't remember which one) and was struck by his speed as he exploded by DBs.

He was at the combine and he ran a 4.73 40 which is a decent time for a TE. Nothing out of this world.

At his pro day he ran a 4.58 or something like that. Much like Duke QB Daniel Jones who looked fast in games but ran a pedestrian 4.82 at the combine but a 4.67 on his pro day, it becomes obvious that these fast athletes (for their position) were not properly trained to run the 40 yard dash. A lot of it has to do with the start. Which is why the 40 yard testing mechanism is an inexact science. Trust your eyes more. These players can run.

So we have two white athletes who look fast on film yet ran pedestrian 40 yard dash times at the combine.

Even factoring in the plus .04 to the 40 time I put on pro day numbers the jump in speed is real. And believe me neither Duke or Utah State have their times rigged like some of these bigger schools (Ohio State/Oklahoma anyone) where 40 times can be a second or even more faster than the truth.

I don't know where this jumps Dax Raymond although I expect him to be drafted but Daniel Jones is not only back in the first round discussion reports are he was essentially perfect on his pro day and could leap into the top of the first round. Even some of his doubters were wowed by his pro day.
 

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AJ Ouellette and the Ohio Bobcats have their pro day tomorrow.....
Getting drafted seems a long shot.....Getting into a camp seems likely, but he needs good numbers for the shallow sons of bitches that call themselves scouts.....

AJ Ouellette put up solid numbers on his pro day today. 32 on the bench is a lot for any position. 36 inch vertical and an unofficial 4.48 40 yard dash.

Like Laird a terrific last two seasons in college and very good work out numbers. And the powers that be couldn't give a flying saucer.

Both are NFL talent RBs who offer versatility. A shame. Such a touchy position for black NFL lockers rooms. The old " we ain't blocking for some white dude" attitude that still prevails in so many quarters.

The irony is AJO is also a terrific blocker for a RB. Very few if any black RBs block or even try to block.
 
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Really good numbers for AJO on top of a stellar resume. Reminds me a lot of Beau Blankenship few years back. Let's hope he doesn't disappear down memory lane as Blankenship did.
 
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