2018 NFL Draft

[Matt Prater]

I hope I am wrong but the only white skill position player drafted will be Braxton Berrios to New England in the 6th round. Even Nall is going to need a FA ticket. Mark my words. There are 6 or 7 white wr's worthy of the draft and this is going to get ugly my friends.

 

[Shadowlight]

It is possible only one white offensive skill player gets chosen and of course that would be a disaster beyond repair.

But if only one WR was chosen all signs point to Trey Quinn. He is the closest to a lock out there.

Braxton Berrios who has a pro day on the 28th is considered fringe which means he could get picked late or miss out. Not sure he is fully healthy which could affect his all important 40 yard dash.

Dylan Cantrell will probably get drafted but again he is not a sure shot.

Justin Watson had an electric pro day and we can only hope it is enough fro him to get drafted. He is still on the fringe but could move up after people digest his "unexpected" athleticism.

Jake Wieneke has been hovering around the 7th round but I think he is on the fringe as well.

As for RB Nall, right now he is on the fringe and my guess is he won't get drafted. The "emotional" investment of having a white RB apparently is too much for the NFL to handle because it requires the team to rally behind him unlike a white WR where less players have to be directly involved. My take is Nall deserves to get drafted but it is not up to me.

But back to the WR's don't give up on the idea of striking gold and having all of the five above getting drafted. A more realistic outcome would be two or three chosen. Four if we are lucky. I am the least enthusiastic about Weineke, easily the least athletic of the five. So if the other four get drafted I will be happy. But if S Troy Apke doesn't get drafted I won't be happy about anything.

 

[Extra Point]

I bought a Pro Football Weakly draft guide. I was curious to Ryan Nall's ranking and evaluation.

Evidently they don't think anything of Ryan Nall. He's not mentioned at all. I looked for Fullback/H Back afterthought section where the occasional white prospect has been found in the past, but it looks like they've done away with that section.

I bought the same magazine. I believe the analysis was written by Greg Gabriel, a former long time scout. I think he bases his analysis on how players play in the games, not on the Combine, pro days, etc.

 

[Extra Point]

It looks as if the Wonderlic scores aren't available so far.

The mainstream media likes to claim there is no correlation between Wonderlic scores and performance, which is a lie. For example, there is a direct correlation between playoff quarterbacks and higher Wondelic scores.

The mainstream media wants to downplay Wonderlic scores because blacks have much lower scores than whites and they're anti-white black supremacists. The fact that whites do better than blacks in the Wonderlic test doesn't fit their political agenda so they seek to suppress reality.

 

[Tannehill17]

It looks as if the Wonderlic scores aren't available so far.

The mainstream media likes to claim there is no correlation between Wonderlic scores and performance, which is a lie. For example, there is a direct correlation between playoff quarterbacks and higher Wondelic scores.

The mainstream media wants to downplay Wonderlic scores because blacks have much lower scores than whites and they're anti-white black supremacists. The fact that whites do better than blacks in the Wonderlic test doesn't fit their political agenda so they seek to suppress reality.

I really wonder what Lamar Jackson's score is. While I don't think playing QB is rocket science, I have a hard time believing that such a poor speaker of the English language would be intelligent enough to learn an NFL playbook. GM's and scouts often forget about the mental part of playing QB and simply look at measurables. These GM's and scouts don't want to appear to be racist so they often overlook this. Jackson is the kind of QB that will end up costing some coach/GM their jobs. I'm seeing a career trajectory similar to RG3's.

 

[celticdb15]

It feels as if Jackson will slip out of 1st rd if the Draft was held today. He screwed up in not running his 40 or willing to switch positions. Not a natural passer, gimmicky offense, etc. That being said some dumbass team will take him higher than he should go and he'll probably go 1st rd after all

 

[dolphins15]

Celtic, speaking about Jackson. I didn't like during the combine Mayock questioned Darnolds competitiveness because he didn't throw but said nothing about Jackson not running. I've also heard that Jackson didn't run because he bulked up for the combine. He weighed 216 which was more than expected. So he didn't want to run slow because that would take away the thought that he's some magical athlete.

 

[La France Blanche]

Aside from Dan Marino, every great QB in NFL history had a high Wonderlic score.

 

[celticdb15]

Phins15 sounds like typical double standard applied to white athletes.

 

[Extra Point]

Here's a site where you can conduct your own draft.

https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php

 

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https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/ryan-nall-advanced-stats-metrics-analytics-profile/ - ( Nall to tight end wont be the last unfortunantly)

What are the chances he gets picked as a fullback but breaks the mould and actually gets carries and not just receptions?
I guess like Mike Tolbert who is really the only fullback with meaningful rushing stats is the standard we should hope for sadly.

Which NFL team would this most likely happen with ?

 

[white is right]

If you look up the stats of Tolbert, you have to throw out 2010 and 2011 and even last year for the Bills as those seasons he was only really a tailback, so at fullback he really topped out at 360 yards a season.

Nall would need injuries and then being too good to be relegated back to being a blocking back ie Hillis. At the moment no team really gives fullbacks anything but scraps for rushing yards.

PS. If a fullback or even a tailback can become touchdown vulture specialists, their careers can thrive and be extended for years if they are on a team without a true bell cow tailback. John Kuhn has lasted into his mid 30's because of this and Matt Asiata hung around the Vikings roster well past his expiry date because of this.

 

[Don Wassall]

Almost all running backs get injured so Nall should get a chance to run at some point in his career even if he's turned into a FB, H-Back or TE because of his race. But he shouldn't have been so amenable to a position switch in his interviews. It's easy for me to say, but he should politely but firmly be saying he considers himself a running back only. Even mild mannered Matt Jones resisted a move to tight end, and blacks do this all the time, Lamar Jackson being a good example this year.

 

[Shadowlight]

Updates on pro days etc.

Sam Hubbard ran a 4.88 40 yet Gil Brandt (what a prick) found it necessary to put out high 4.9 numbers. At the end of the day what the hell difference does it make what a DE runs in the 40 yard dash anyway? JJ Watt ran it in the 4.9's and he looks as quick as a big cat out there.

I would like to see Sam get drafted by Carolina or New England in the first round because both teams desperately need an edge defender.

I am so sick of this metric crap as it plays into the menacing caste fed machine. For starters Hubbard is a perfectly proportioned huge man. He is 6'5" 270 and fits the profile of a player who can play DT on switches to go along with his natural edge position. He isn't one of those weight room steroid looking clowns that litter the NFL. He has what you call natural strength. I know it when I see it. I used to bump into the wrestler Bob Backlund ( nice guy) quite a bit a while back and let me tell you looking at him you can sense his immense power and strength . That is what I see in Hubbard. Hubbard jumped 35 inches at the combine and performed at a top level in the agility drills. He looks like an old fashioned football player and teams that pass on him will look like fools. He has the short area quickness and athletic ability to shine in the NFL. And he can tackle an art that so many of these black "track" dudes can't seem to master.

Apparently Josh Allen knocked them dead at his pro day but that doesn't surprise me one bit. Again like Sam Hubbard Allen is a football athlete that oozes natural abilities most players can only dream of having. Unlike so many FAKE black players who spend most of their energy working on the 40 yard dash and weight lifting Hubbard and Allen are just naturally athletic with no preservatives or additives.

WR Dylan Cantrell ran a 4.47 and 4.50 ( think a 4.54 runner) at his pro day which is an improvement over his combine numbers even when you do factor in the time discrepancy between the combine and pro days. He has a ton of athletic explosion as evidenced by his tremendous leaping ability so he fits the ideal NFL WR. Speed, size, strength, blocking, route running and hands. Like Justin Watson there is NO reason on earth for a team not to draft him outside of prejudice from caste holes. In fact both Watson and Cantrell deserve to be drafted before the 6th round.

{UPDATE} Cantrell leapt 38 1/2 inches at the combine. He jumped again on pro day. This time a whopping 41 inches. This from a young man who is 6'3" and 226 pounds. Great stuff. Great athlete!!

 

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If you look up the stats of Tolbert, you have to throw out 2010 and 2011 and even last year for the Bills as those seasons he was only really a tailback, so at fullback he really topped out at 360 yards a season.

Nall would need injuries and then being too good to be relegated back to being a blocking back ie Hillis. At the moment no team really gives fullbacks anything but scraps for rushing yards.

PS. If a fullback or even a tailback can become touchdown vulture specialists, their careers can thrive and be extended for years if they are on a team without a true bell cow tailback. John Kuhn has lasted into his mid 30's because of this and Matt Asiata hung around the Vikings roster well past his expiry date because of this.

Thanks for that !

 

[Leonardfan]

Combine Snub and prototypical LB Frank Ginda of San Jose St had his pro day yesterday. He should be a 4th round pick if not late 3rd round - if NFL teams actually value fundamentals and tackling:

Ginda measured 6000 and 235 pounds, completed 29 reps on the bench press and touched 33 inches in the vertical jump and 9-foot-6 in the broad jump. He timed between 4.68 and 4.72 in the 40, 4.28 in the short shuttle and 6.8 in the three-cone.

Ginda, one of the nation’s most prolific run defenders the past two years, looked good in drills and showed quick change of direction and lateral speed.

 

[Shadowlight]

As expected the underwear Olympics committee has Sam Hubbard sliding into the second round after his 40 yard dash. He could still go in the first but at the end of the day whoever gets him (rumors swirling around Titans, Panthers, Patriots and Lions) are getting a football player. Not some fancy half ass track athlete who looks like a world beater running around in shorts and turns into a useless commodity once the pads are on.

There are several more pro days left. Below are a few workouts to keep in mind. Most feature WR's but a couple ( Ohio and BYU) include DB's.

March 26-Iowa

March 27-Iowa State

March 28- Miami

March 28- Ohio

March 29- SMU

March 30- BYU

April 13- NC

 

[Leonardfan]

Hubbard will be a solid football player - late 1st/early 2nd round is fine. Did the geniuses mention anything about his 10 yd split? If I recall from the combine Hubbard looked very good in all the defensive drills. If he falls he will be an absolute steal.

 

[Leonardfan]

Haven't been able to find anything on Cincinatti DB Carter Jacobs, BC LB Ty Schwab.

 

[Shadowlight]

Sam Hubbard excelled in all the drills that pertain to a DE. He showed top flight agility and explosion as evidenced by his 35 inch vertical which is a lot for someone with his mass. His running style is very smooth. And watching him run the 40 the thought that occurred to me was you don't want to get hit by this guy in his full speed mode. Like getting hit by a two ton truck barreling down the highway. Wonder if that idea ever occurred to the queer pencil pushing geeks who seem to control a player's status these days? He just doesn't burn it over 40 yards but since when do DE's run 40 yards? He is also a prime tackler and that is a skill that these pin heads ignore as well.

One player who might burn rubber this coming week is utility Iowa State WR Trever Ryen. Again I don't see the NFL going out of their way to make room for a white speedster who could return kicks and be a back up WR. In a fair world Ryen fits the mold of a late round pick. Won't happen folks.

I also expect Trey Quinn to better his Combine 40 time similar to Cantrell.

 

[Leonardfan]

Just came across Notre Dame's pro day. I guess Malik Zaire worked out there instead of at the Florida pro day. According to 24/7 sports and Rivals he was a 4 star recruit and the third best "dual threat" QB in the class. He ran a 4.95 and a 4.93 at his pro day - just goes to show how much stock is put into skin color.


It looks like Trumbetti and Martini had pretty solid pro days. Hopefully they get some attention.

 

[Leonardfan]

Here they are attacking Cantrell:

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline relays that "the feeling from those on hand (for the pro day of Texas Tech WR Dylan Cantrell) was that he practiced much slower than he timed in the 40."

Cantrell (6'3/226) improved on his 4.59-second run through the 40-yard dash during his pro day on Friday -- Pauline notes that he was timed in the high 4.4's and low 4.5's -- but that crisp time sounds as though it could be misleading, at least in terms of how fast Cantrell plays on the field. For what it's worth, the wideout did catch the ball well in his drills. He rocked a composite testing score in the 97th percentile of NFL receivers (a fantastic mark) while in Indianapolis and has probably worked his way into a firm Day 3 selection at this juncture, even if some of his athleticism plays up better in Under Armour than in pads.

and the working used for his teammate was not done by accident:

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline passes along that Texas Tech WR Keke Coutee "caught the ball well and played to his speed" during Friday's pro day.

Coutee (5'10/181) did exactly what he needed to do on pro day to keep the ship steady. The diminutive wideout offers plenty of quickness and speed -- clocked at 4.43 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine -- and offers upside as a return man at the next level. He's a likely selection for early on Day 2 of April's draft. Coutee certainly won't be for everybody due to his size, but we think he plays more than big enough. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein has compared him to Ravens WR John Brown.

 

[Extra Point]

Here's a site where you can see the SPARQ scores of players.

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/

A lot of our guys did well. Check out offensive lineman Kolton Miller, linebacker Leighton Vander Esch and safety Troy Apke - all top of the mark.

The myth that white men aren't good athletes needs to die.

 

[celticdb15]

Amazing how white guys can be in 90 percentile athletically and still only be considered Day 3 prospects(Apke and Cantrell).

Lol **** off. Pure caste propaganda .

 

[celticdb15]

Just came across Notre Dame's pro day. I guess Malik Zaire worked out there instead of at the Florida pro day. According to 24/7 sports and Rivals he was a 4 star recruit and the third best "dual threat" QB in the class. He ran a 4.95 and a 4.93 at his pro day - just goes to show how much stock is put into skin color.


It looks like Trumbetti and Martini had pretty solid pro days. Hopefully they get some attention.

Wow! 4.9 is really moving! For a 300lb guy. Lol "dual threat" via black privilege.

Good for Trumbetti and Martini. 2 more Defensive snubs.

How about Michigan State's Chris Frey?! 6'2 238 Spartan Team captain and 2yr starter. Can't find a 40 for him but he recorded a 33inch vert and 18 bench reps.