2018 NFL Draft

[white is right]

I guess the Combine invites are already coming in. I read somewhere that by Thursday night most invitations will be finished but I am not sure about that at all.

Anyway as expected RB Ryan Nall has been invited. Some discussion about a possible move to FB or H-Back but he is going in and will be listed as a RB. So he will be doing RB drills etc.

Fullbacks do running back drills as they are technically runningbacks they just have different expectations.

On the Debbie Downer side balding idiot clown Eisen will muse out loud that the fullback looks like a Clydesdale or battering ram and Mayock will point out that he is a fullback and teams have different expectations.

 

[Extra Point]

Taven Bryan, Sam Hubbard and Harrison Phillips are projected to be first or second round picks. They are among the few white defensive linemen expected to be drafted.

This is a common pattern. White defensive players tend to be top players or not in the league at all. That's because white players who are average don't get jobs because they're white.

 

[Carolina Speed]

I'm looking forward to seeing how Braxton Berrios' combine numbers are. He is from NC and was in the same class as my son. We saw him at a southeastern regional high school combine in Atlanta. He was the combines MVP. I believe he and my son were the only white skill position players there. I'll never forget the look on the face of the black director of the combine when he read off Berrios' numbers and had to give him the MVP trophy. It's difficult to remember his exact numbers, but I think his vertical was something like 38-39. He has since improved it to 40-41, a short shuttle of 3.81, and has run sub 4.5 forty at times. I think he sustained a knee injury early on at Miami. I hope it hasn't slowed him down. This is a prime example of how a white athlete has to make it. He has to beat every black athlete at everything or he's is not given a chance. Berrios has had to do this his entire life. I wish him all the best. BTW, he is leaving Miami with a double major and has a near perfect GPA, 3.96 in Finance and Entrepreneurship!

 

[referendum]

Last year there were 59 whites at non-special team positions, so this year at 68 is a return to numbers we have seen before. Getting the four WR's invited was a real good thing, and the wave of white QB's as well

 

[Freethinker]

Yea I'm not surprised at all. When you follow the draft for going on 15 years you can pick up on obvious trends if you are willing to look past the blatant discrimination and ask the obvious questions. We just saw Amendola, Gronk and Hogan have huge days receiving in the biggest game of the year against an all black secondary and people are either unwilling, scared or just complacent so they won't ask the uncomfortable questions. It's good to come here to talk the draft with like minded individuals and troll twitter when possible but its obvious to me nothing is going to change. Maybe the XFL can put a nice dent in the NFL's fanbase. It all depends on whether or not they can put a decent product on the field. If they are able to do put a competitive product on the field and do so with alot more white athletes then the caste system can begin to be questioned since the sample size is bigger. It does not matter that in the NFL a majority white NFL offense dominates year in and year out - they are treated as an outlier and exception.


Here is the supposed process:

All 32 NFL teams are invited to provide input on draft-eligible players which is used by the Player Selection Committee to select each year’s participants. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent 28 NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.


For the items I put in bold - it looks like the National and BLESTO scouting services are the 24/7, Scout, BSPN Recruiting and Rivals of the NFL. Why would 28 teams need a scouting service when they fork over tons of money to their own personnel departments? I find it funny that the goal of the committee is invite every player that will be drafted in the NFL draft rather than picking the players who project best to the next level. To quote Trump - "The system is rigged!"

This is an excellent post that could be used to redpill DWFs and normies. It exposes a conspiracy of sorts and explains why NFL team are dark cookie cutters of each other.

 

[Shadowlight]

I would argue against a combine thread - just throw everything in the 2018 draft thread since it is all related. Another pathetic combine coming up.

68 out of 336 invitees to the combine were white skill position players. 11 specialists (punters/kickers) and one long snapper (Tanner Carew). Subtract 12 from 336 and you get 324. Divide 68/324 and you get approx 21% of the skill position players going to the combine as being white. Remember the combine acts as the final NFL controlled gate keeper between whites and getting drafted - Pro Days are many white athletes only shot at getting noticed if they were passed over for the Combine, Senior Bowl, Shrine Game and any other post season all star games.

QB (16/19)
Austin Allen
Josh Allen
Kurt Benkert
Sam Darnold
Danny Etling
Luke Falk
Riley Ferguson
Kyle Lauletta
Tanner Lee
Chase Litton
Baker Mayfield
Josh Rosen
Mason Rudolph
Nic Shimonek
Mike White
Logan Woodside

RB (3/32)
Nick Bawden
Donnie Ernsberger
Ryan Nall


OL (24/47)
Brian Allen (C)
Dave Bright (OT)
Alex Cappa (OT)
Will Clapp (OG/C)
Mason Cole (C)
Austin Corbett (OG)
Nick Gates (OT)
Colby Gossett (OG)
Taylor Hearn (OG)
Sam Jones (OG)
Rick Leonard (OT)
Cole Madison (OT)
KC McDermott (OT)
Mike McGlinchey (OT)
Kolton Miller (OT)
Quenton Nelson (OG)
Brian O'Neil (OT)
Billy Price (OG/C)
Scott Quessenberry (OG)
Frank Ragnow (C)
Braden Smith (OG)
Wyatt Teller (OG)
Brett Toth (OT)
Sean Welsh (OG)



WR (4/44)
Braxton Berrios
Dylan Cantrell
Trey Quinn
Jake Wieneke


TE (11/17)
Mark Andrews
Tyler Conklin
Will Dissly
Troy Fumagalli
Mike Gesicki
Dallas Goedert
Hayden Hurst
Ryan Izzo
Dalton Schultz
Durham Smythe
David Wells


DL (4/52)
Taven Bryan
Kylie Fitts
Sam Hubbard
Harrison Phillips


LB (5/42)
Jack Cichy
Nick DeLuca
Garret Dooley
Josey Jewell
Leighton Vander Esch

DB (1/70)
Troy Apke



List of snubs - not all of them but quite a few:
QB Jeremiah Briscoe
QB Nick Stevens
DB Dallin Leavitt
DB Micah Hanemann
WR Justin Watson
TE Cam Serigne
DB Cole Reyes
DE Marcus Martin
DT Parker Cothren
DE Dalton Keene
OT Zach Crabtree
OG Cody O'Connell
LB Joel Lanning
DE Justin Lawler
DE Conor Sheehy
QB Brogan Roback
RB/QB/WR Nick Holley
DE Joe Ostman
LB Drue Tranquill
DT Christian LaCouture
DT Henry Mondeaux
DB Nick Gesualdi
DB Bradd Ellis
DB Joe Ferguson
WR Matt Vandenberg
DB Chase Dutra
DB Ryan Moeller
LB Quentin Poling
LB Frank Ginda
LB Auggie Sanchez
LB Ty Schwab
LB Ben Niemann

As with most combines there is a gigantic "black drop" to the affair with just a few white skill players sprinkled in. I see no reason to believe this trend will change in the foreseeable future. And despite the fact that there are even less than the usual white defensive players I am going into this combine looking at the glass half full as opposed to half empty.

Here is why. Saturday should be a hoot. This is one of the most loaded QB classes in recent memory. And the same goes for TE's. And while four WR's doesn't seem like much in relative terms that's not a horrible number. And they all work out on Saturday. And S Troy Apke was not on the radar at all until his post season invite to an all star game where he earned an MVP. So a great and welcome surprise from a player who could test well and get drafted. And Ryan Nall has for the" time being" been listed as a RB, not a FB, and like Apke it will be interesting to see how he tests. But unlike Apke, Nall is sure to get drafted. Crumbs I know. One RB and one DB.

As usual there are several things to keep in mind during this event. It is CRUCIAL that the white skill players (not talking about OL's or DT's) run fast 40 yard dash's. The vertical leap and 20 yard shuttle are important but for caste purposes one of the best weapons against caste think is for white athletes to blow out a swift 40. There is nothing like the feeling I got when players like Matt Jones, Ryan Swope and Jeff Janis burned 4.3 40 yard dash times. And as for the DE's, TE's and LB's I want to see exceptional times as well.

But the combine usually turns into a pseudo homo screeching love affair for the black athletes who turned in fast times etc. All the more reason for white athletes to upstage them as best as they can. But every year we have to suffer through god like black skill player worshipping that takes place and expect no less this year.

So onto a position close to my heart WR. As the year ended it looked like the minimum/maximum number of white WR's drafted would be one to two. Jake Wieneke, a tall WR I know little about has consistently shown up on draft boards. While not as decorated as Cooper Kupp, I don't expect an exceptional 40 yard dash time. Hopefully he can keep it reasonable enough to keep teams interested.

I did not watch much of Braxton Berrios play for the simple reason I never watch caste ridden Miami unless they are playing a team of interest for me. But from what I have seen I think he has a legitimate shot of being drafted. Seen as a poor man's Ryan Switzer he lacks ideal size and length. But he has three things going for him which Carolina mentioned above. He is extremely smart ( a straight A student). And I love his attitude. He has stated he will run a fast 40 and I like that kind of confidence coming out of a white player. He also is a true punt returner.

Dylan Cantrell is a rangy WR who has not really shown up on draft boards so it was a pleasant surprise to see him invited. A well known leaper it will be important for him to run under say 4.54 seconds. He has the size to play in the NFL.

And Trey Quinn is seen as the best of the lot and why not. I see a lot of Adam Thielen in him.

Interesting to note that Quinn, Cantrell, Berrios and Apke turned in swift 40 yard dash times while in HS. While you always have to take HS times with a grain of salt I am hoping that all four run 4.4 range 40 yard dashes. And better yet one or two 4.3 jobs would make me ecstatic. At the end of the day I can live with three WR's being drafted and hope like hell we catch a head wind like last year and squeeze in a fourth.

As usual fine WR's not invited to the combine that will likely not get drafted are Matt Vandenburg, Austin Proehl and Justin Watson. But reaching the three to four mark with white WR's is easier said than done and we have years of proof for that.

On the surface this feels like a better than average combine in terms of potential but the proof will be in the pudding especially the 40 yard dash times that scouts over rely on. All I know is I am looking forward to this combine more so than most. Especially Saturday.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

please pardon this double post, but many of you don't frequent the track forum, and i thought this post relevant to the upcoming NFL Draft ...

the above video (originally linked by RCSMAN) is highly illustrative and would serve as highly informative in "debates" regarding 40-yard dash times in football. if one watches closely, you will observe the VERY marginal separation between the winner, Lemaitre, and the third place finisher, Vicaut. their respective times over 60 meters "seem" large: 6.57 to 6.66, but in reality there is less than one full stride separating the two men.

this is significant, as it illustrates how truly small the difference is between a "blazingly fast" time of, say, 4.4 and a comparatively "slow-footed" 4.5 over 40 yards. in actuality, the separation between those two times is, at most, one stride. and on a football field where running in a straight line rarely happens, the difference between times of a tenth of a second (or even two tenths of a second) is almost totally insignificant.

the idea that a "speedster" who runs a 4.4 in shorts with no pads on is in a separate league from a "slug" who runs a 4.5 or 4.6 is, at best, misguided and, at worst, intentionally misleading.

 

[Carolina Speed]

I did not watch much of Braxton Berrios play for the simple reason I never watch caste ridden Miami unless they are playing a team of interest for me. But from what I have seen I think he has a legitimate shot of being drafted. Seen as a poor man's Ryan Switzer he lacks ideal size and length. But he has three things going for him which Carolina mentioned above. He is extremely smart ( a straight A student). And I love his attitude. He has stated he will run a fast 40 and I like that kind of confidence coming out of a white player. He also is a true punt returner.

Another example of how someone that seemingly doesn't have the greatest of measureables can be very successful at the D-1 college level and possibly the NFL, (Ryan Switzer) vs. another player with more size and explosiveness that has a good career, but not the as good as one with less than eye popping combine scores. Here's what I mean:
Ryan Switzer's combine numbers and measureables coming out of HS:
5'9, Maybe. more like 5'8.
165 lbs.
40-4.52
20 short shuttle: 3.91
Vertical: 32
Pretty good, right? But just not jaw dropping, eye-popping, because of size and vertical wasn't good at all..and 40 time while fast, most D-1 colleges wouldn't consider that outstanding compared to his black counterparts. However, Switzer goes on to set punt return records at UNC-Chapel Hill.
While player B's numbers look like this:
5'9. 181 lbs.
40-4.49-4.52, some reports have him running sub 4.5.
20 short shuttle- 3.81
Vertical-40
A bigger player with better numbers. Player B goes on to have a decent career in D-1, but doesn't have quite the career Ryan Switzer has.
This player is Braxton Berrios. Not quite the career Ryan Switzer had. On paper Berrios is definitely NOT a poor mans Ryan Switzer as Shadowlight mentioned,. In fact if a scout were evaluating the two and Berrios were black,.. and had to pick, Switzer would've have been an after thought. Never to be heard from. Although thankful, I'm still amazed by what Switzer has to overcome to get where he is. He's a good player, but a 5.8 white guy with a 32' vertical, I know plenty of those walking around here. How did he get to North Carolina and turn down many other offers, while others with similar or better numbers get overlooked? Fortunately for us some white players can still get in on their connections. Word is Switzer's father, a UNC Alumni, had connections or we may have never heard of him.
I saw both of these guys in high school at combines, and I would have taken Berrios. The guy was a combine beast!
More importantly, it goes to show how little combine numbers really mean.

 

[Leonardfan]

Check out the Average time by position in the Wiki article on the Combine 40 yard dash. They averaged out all of the participants from 2008 to 2012. Most of our guys fall right in line with the averages for each of the positions. Bear in mind that all of the times have a majority or fully black number of players that count as the sample size. Whites are typically outliers in every position (or not part of the sample at all when it comes to CB). To me its a fairly damning take on the 40 time as a caste excuse as to why blacks are better athletes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

 

[Leonardfan]

Just realized Adam Brenneman was also not invited. Huge snub for a very productive TE.

 

[Leonardfan]

The Lamar Jackson hype train is making me laugh thus far. So far no mention of him being a product of the Petrino offense. He is supposedly the most athletic QB since Michael Vick - I guess they forgot when they bestowed that same label on the Gremlin when he came out.

 

[Westside]

The Lamar Jackson hype train is making me laugh thus far. So far no mention of him being a product of the Petrino offense. He is supposedly the most athletic QB since Michael Vick - I guess they forgot when they bestowed that same label on the Gremlin when he came out.

This guy's picture will be next to the phrase "revolutionary, dynamic QB failure." His brain is that of an 8th grader affelet. The smart money says stay way far from him!

 

[Leonardfan]

Bill Polian stated yesterday that Jackson would make a good WR. I am really enjoying the sjw feedback - they all play the race card. It's a perfect way to bring up the discrimination white players face at every position.

He should of pointed to the Petrino system as a criticism as it has been for other white qbs who played under Petrino before he decided whites cannot play qb.

 

[wile]

The gals on BESPN that I was watching at the gym today were all flustered, but then again the black quarterback's highlight reel is of him running the ball. Since I value guile over doofus troof like a conservative if I had a high draft choice I would talk him up, generate the hysteria and then let some other team draft him, over pay him and flounder. They did the same thing in Minnesota for Moss, and as great as he was he and his drunk white coaches and staff sure killed off MN in that time frame, same with Vick, killed Atlanta.

 

[wile]

And of course the gals on BESPN this AM were doubtful of Cousins worth, all the while they were virtue signaling all about black athletic racial supremacy. I don't know how you guys watch that crap?

 

[Westside]

And of course the gals on BESPN this AM were doubtful of Cousins worth, all the while they were virtue signaling all about black athletic racial supremacy. I don't know how you guys watch that crap?

I stopped watching BSPN back in 1996. I only follow Dan Rafael on BSPN boxing section online. Due to Dan being very fair to white boxers.

 

[wile]

BESPN is stuck in a positive feedback loop. Even Clay Travis easily mocks those people, a two time Obama voter who wants to come back as a transgender curling athlete in his next life. Personally I hope people start trolling ESPN till they are plumb Olbermann levels of crazy. I truly feel for the conservative types who think with logic and reason they can save ESPN.

 

[Leonardfan]

Some cucked anonymous NFC West coast scout trying to tear down Harrison Phillips who was an absolute beast in the interior at Stanford. Played with leverage and attacked downfield - over 100 tackles as a nose tackle is insane. No mention of the Phillips wrestling background (he was a three time state wrestling champion in Nebraska). Lance Zierlein throws in his own caste cuck analysis stating that Phillips looks more like a guard than a nose. I bet he wouldn't be saying that if Phillips were black.

Phillips is actually one of the most dominant and impactful defensive linemen in this draft. He is a better player than the undersized Solomon Thomas (either a black or mixed) who went number 3 overall to San Fran.


An NFC West Coast scout sees Stanford DT Harrison Phillips "as a day three player."

The scout is surprised how high the media has Phillips (6'4/278) ranked, questioning, " Where do you play him? Loses balance which makes nose tough and he doesn't have the athleticism to play with three-technique." NFL.com's Lance Zierlein compares him to Cincinnati Bengals DT Ryan Glasgow and projects Phillips to be selected in rounds 1-2. Zierlein explains, "Phillips plays a little upright and looks more like a guard than nose, but he definitely has the leverage and power to play to anchor and muddy the run game waters." He expects Phillips to be an early starter that could eventually "find snaps on passing downs as well."

 

[celticdb15]

Some cucked anonymous NFC West coast scout trying to tear down Harrison Phillips who was an absolute beast in the interior at Stanford. Played with leverage and attacked downfield - over 100 tackles as a nose tackle is insane. No mention of the Phillips wrestling background (he was a three time state wrestling champion in Nebraska). Lance Zierlein throws in his own caste cuck analysis stating that Phillips looks more like a guard than a nose. I bet he wouldn't be saying that if Phillips were black.

Phillips is actually one of the most dominant and impactful defensive linemen in this draft. He is a better player than the undersized Solomon Thomas (either a black or mixed) who went number 3 overall to San Fran.


An NFC West Coast scout sees Stanford DT Harrison Phillips "as a day three player."

The scout is surprised how high the media has Phillips (6'4/278) ranked, questioning, " Where do you play him? Loses balance which makes nose tough and he doesn't have the athleticism to play with three-technique." NFL.com's Lance Zierlein compares him to Cincinnati Bengals DT Ryan Glasgow and projects Phillips to be selected in rounds 1-2. Zierlein explains, "Phillips plays a little upright and looks more like a guard than nose, but he definitely has the leverage and power to play to anchor and muddy the run game waters." He expects Phillips to be an early starter that could eventually "find snaps on passing downs as well."

Totally ignores his monster season, makes you wonder if this caste clown even bothered to watch any of Phillips highlights or skipped straight to manufacturing BS lies. LOL.

 

[Extra Point]

Totally ignores his monster season, makes you wonder if this caste clown even bothered to watch any of Phillips highlights or skipped straight to manufacturing BS lies. LOL.

Some of these "analysts" and "scouts" use the exact same scouting reports for White players, unathletic, etc. It doesn't matter what positions they play, their combine numbers or their stats, they still say the same things.

What's amazing is how so many White fans are so oblivious to the obvious racial stereotyping.

 

[Don Wassall]

Some of these "analysts" and "scouts" use the exact same scouting reports for White players, unathletic, etc. It doesn't matter what positions they play, their combine numbers or their stats, they still say the same things.

What's amazing is how so many White fans are so oblivious to the obvious racial stereotyping.

I was reading a blurb for an article about Ryan Nall, you know, the freakishly talented huge tailback who is very elusive and has a number of long TD runs but may be forced to become a fullback in the NFL because of his race, and found the usual language: Ryan Nall, running back, Oregon State - Nall played on awful teams at OregonState, but is a big (6-2, 235 pounds) and punishing runner, who was relatively productive under difficult circumstances. He often dishes out more than he takes from tacklers. There are questions about his overall athleticism, ...

It's on some site that you have to sign in to see it if anyone wants to look at the entire article, but there's really no need, the same boilerplate derogatory descriptions are written about White RBs and WRs every year: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/spor...ions-nfl-draft-picks-at-2018-scouting-combine

 

[Extra Point]

Baker Mayfield measured right where I thought he would, between 6-0 and 6-1. His exact measurement was 6-3/8.

I have him rated as the number 1 quarterback and the number 1 prospect in the entire draft.

Some are saying he doesn't have a strong arm. His arm looks strong to me.

 

[Extra Point]

schlegdaddytv analyzes NFL prospects on Youtube. He does his own analysis and has his own opinions. Political correctness sometimes mars his videos but for the most part he steers clear of this.

I think he's worth listening to. Here's his analysis of Josh Allen.

 

[Leonardfan]

I found this "analysis" to be quite humorous. I wonder if projecting a player to a "spectrum" is going to be a new thing since the undeniably large bust factor comes into play with many players and the so called "experts" are much more often wrong than right.

On the Rotoworld Football Podcast, Josh Norris explained that LSU RB Derrius Guice is on the Thomas Rawls - Marshawn Laynch spectrum of player.

Norris explains this by stating Guice can thrive on contact, is an aggressive runner and frequently adds a few extra yards on final contact. That is quite different than the style that Saquon Barkley and Ronald Jones present. Classifying a player on a spectrum is important as it offers a range of outcomes.

 

[link]

Totally ignores his monster season, makes you wonder if this caste clown even bothered to watch any of Phillips highlights or skipped straight to manufacturing BS lies. LOL.

Interesting I remember in the last NFL census I read that Nose Tackle had zero white players playing the position in the NFL I think they listed 30 in total so its maybe as bad as running back. On nall every scout report I read is basically: Suprisingly fast, Good 3rd down recieving option and excellent blocking skills which is annoying. With the right coach I think we could see a Mike Alstott clone a running back stuck in a full backs body who is also white and thus must play fullback its depressing but if it means he actually gets snaps and targets im all in.