2018 NFL Draft

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Iowa LB Ben Niemann to KC
Iowa Guard Sean Welsh to Washington
Iowa OL Ike Boetger to Buffalo
Wisconsin FB Austin Ramesh to AZ
CMU LB Joe Ostman to Philly
LSU DL Christian Lacoture to Baltimore
Iowa St. QB turned LB Joel Lanning to Dallas
Michigan St. LB Chris Frey to Carolina
Iowa OL Boone Meyers tryout with Indy
Penn St. G Brendan Mahon to Carolina
Iowa WR Matt Vandeberg to tryout for NYJ
Memphis QB Riley Ferguson to Miami
Arkansas QB Austin Allen to Tampa
Slippery Rock OLB Marcus Martin to Seattle * watcha them move him to FB..
Sam Houston St. QB Jeremiah Briscoe to Philly
Tennessee TE Ethan Wolff to Tennessee
North Dakota St. LB Nick Deluca to Tennessee

Couple more UDFA updates
SJSU LB Frank Ginda to AZ
Princeton AB Chad Kanoff to AZ
John Carroll LB/S Mason McKenrick to Baltimore
BYU S Micah Hannemann to Cleveland
EKU QB Tim Boyle to GB
Northwestern DL Tyler Lancaster to GB
SMU DE Mason Gentry to Houston
Purdue OL Dave Steinmetzs to Miami
Tennessee LB Colton Jumper to New Orleans
Nebraska OL Nick Gates to NYG
Penn St. DL Parker Cothren to Pittsburgh
Idaho St. G Skyler Philipps to Seattle
James Madison SS Jordan Brown to Ravens minicamp
Lehigh WR Troy Pelltier to Eagles minicamp
South Dakota St. DL Kellen Soulek to Indy
Southern Utah LB Mike Needham to AZ
Weber St. DL McKay Murphy (son of HOF baseball player Dale Murphy) to LA Rams
Cal Poly DL Caleb Melton to GB minicamp
Minnesota Morehead WR Damon Gibson heading to GB as TE *prolific career as a Big WR in D2. Over 2000yds in his career.
Indiana Safety Chase Dutra to Detroit
Northern Iowa DL Karter Schult is heading to Carolina after impressing in Spring League
Colorado LB Derek McCartney to tryout with GB
 
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Shadowlight should be happy. Troy Apke got drafted high in the fourth. Watson, Cantrell, Berrios and Quinn all got drafted.

So now it's time for him to start the 2019 NFL Draft thread.
 

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We can take Shadowlight off suicide watch now :tongue:


Ha.

Pardon my language but Day three of the draft was bat **** crazy. And kudos all around to everyone who participated. I read every post and each day the posts got more and more enjoyable. Some of you should consider the comedy circuit like La France. Don may have had the best zingers comparing that dithering prick from the NFL network to one of the Three Stooges but the best might have been the Milli Vanilli namecheck.

And Free nailed "coconut rugby player" right on the head. WTF talk about a joke pick. You would think these teams would show a level of professionalism but too many teams play games rather than pick worthy white players.

Thrills and spills and last second rescues( sort of) describe this wacky races ( an old cartoon for those old enough to remember) of a draft. And of course the human interest story that took up half of the day---you just knew a white skill player would get washed to shore and become a victim of friendly fire once Griffin was picked ( Justin Watson).

As someone who thinks he is the best white WR draft expert out there I thought hell the one SURE SHOT, Trey Quinn, was looking like a lost cause. But it goes back to something I mentioned yesterday regarding caste soaked teams like the Colts and the Packers. The Packers might have lost Aaron Rodgers for good on this draft. Instead of picking a true pro like Quinn they decided on a very raw weirdly named clown from ND and a tall slow (he looks fast on tape they tell us) WR from the gimmicky Big 12.

For years they have been bitching about Jeff Janis being so called too raw and what do they do they turn around and downgrade with a super raw guy. They couldn't wait to kick Jordy's ass out of town. This new crew at Green Bay are taking a page right out of the Giants playbook that calls for caste full steam ahead 24/7.

Even ESPN admitted Trey Quinn does not fit the label of Mr. Irrelevant. EP is correct Jarvis Landry is a good comparison.

But as I and everyone else figured Quinn would get nabbed in the 5th I did mention Austin Proehl coming on strong and in one of the biggest and best surprises of the night he got picked right before Quinn. Players at this stage of the draft have trouble sticking but these are two different cases. Proehl's dad Ricky has been with him through the entire draft process and works out with him. This will only increase his chances of sticking and what a delight it would be to see Josh Allen and Proehl make a dynamic duo!

And Quinn is just too damn good to ignore. Cannot believe that so many lousy looking black WR's got picked ahead of him.

On the bright side versatile Cantrell got picked around where most figured. When was the last time the Chargers drafted a white WR?

And Justin Watson got picked a bit earlier than predicted and while the NFL network noted his 4.4 speed, Todd McShay ( who everyone here justifiably can't stand) said he lacked speed. McShay came onto the scene as one of these new wave white bashing so called draft experts. He is nothing but a white punk and a caste prick. Even when commentating on Apke he went into monotone, mentioned a good combine workout and nothing much else. The diagnosis was beyond limp. Compare that to his sexual slathering of black athletes. Will someone just sweep this clown off the floor once and for all?

Have to figure Brady had a hand in getting Braxton Berrios. A Rhodes Scholar type he will have no problem following the plan. Sterling pick by the Pats. They were not about to draft one of those clueless black "upside" WRs who can't run a proper pattern if it landed on them.

And Jon Gruden pulled some magic out of his hat. As the Cowboys foolishly traded for punk Tavon Austin Gruden STEALS away Switzer.
With Jordy and Switzer, who Gruden loved when he was doing MNF, the Raiders are looking WAY UP.

Yesterday as mentioned some solid TE's got chosen and Jewell landed in Denver. Overall the defense situation still stinks but going into the season it looked like there was a chance zero white WRs would be chosen but nearly a year later 5 were taken. So if I gave a B + to last year's draft I am giving this one an A-. Those last two picks back to back belly to belly were surreal but I kept thinking both the Bills and the Redskins needed a WR so I figured Quinn. When it was Proehl then Quinn I thought I had a few too many.

Josh Allen might not ever turn into a pin point Charlie type of passer but he has enough in his tool box to win. One thing everyone is overlooking is his stunning athletic ability. He will kill opponents with his legs too . Wild card pick that could end up being a big timer if he can iron things out is QB Tanner Lee of the Jags. He has the raw talent.

And last and certainly not least the Redskins stepped to the plate and snatched Troy Apke. Figuring I would have to sweat out Apke all afternoon long I was just getting ready to do something in the kitchen when I thought I saw his name flash up during an ad but thought is that right? 4th round? But around 10 seconds later it was verified. I was jumping around like a crazy man. A SWEET MOMENT IN TIME!!!! Yes EP I am happy.
 
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If he makes the Redskins roster, Quinn will be the backup slot receiver to Jamison Crowder. Crowder is decent, but frequently disappears during games.

I have a high opinion of Quinn. He has excellent hands and runs good, shifty routes. I think he can be a starting slot receiver. If he gets a fair chance.

The NFL clearly doesn't agree with me or they would have drafted him higher than the 7th. We'll see who's right.
 

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Two linebackers have a chance to stick with NFL teams. Frank Ginda can be an inside linebacker in a 3-4 or a weak side or middle linebacker in a 4-3. He had 173 tackles last year.

Ben Niemann is a prototypical strong side linebacker. Pro Football Focus graded him as the 3rd best coverage linebacker in the nation last year.

Both should stick with teams as backups. They could eventually develop into starters.
 

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Couple more UDFA updates
SJSU LB Frank Ginda to AZ
Princeton AB Chad Kanoff to AZ
John Carroll LB/S Mason McKenrick to Baltimore
BYU S Micah Hannemann to Cleveland
EKU QB Tim Boyle to GB
Northwestern DL Tyler Lancaster to GB
SMU DE Mason Gentry to Houston
Purdue OL Dave Steinmetzs to Miami
Tennessee LB Colton Jumper to New Orleans
Nebraska OL Nick Gates to NYG
Penn St. DL Parker Cothren to Pittsburgh
Idaho St. G Skyler Philipps to Seattle
James Madison SS Jordan Brown to Ravens minicamp
Lehigh WR Troy Pelltier to Eagles minicamp
South Dakota St. DL Kellen Soulek to Indy
Southern Utah LB Mike Needham to AZ
Weber St. DL McKay Murphy (son of HOF baseball player Dale Murphy) to LA Rams
Cal Poly DL Caleb Melton to GB minicamp

Thanks for keeping up with this! Hannemann to Cleveland is interesting as Dorsey may have been responsible for signing Sorensen while he was in KC.
 

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(((Central Caste-ing)))

Good phrase. Very innovative.

The NFL's ratings have gone down something like 45% over the past three years. This is part of the growing backlash of normies against the destruction of our society and civilization by the (((cultural marxists). Look for another 10-15% drop in 2018.
 
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Vikings with another whitey! A kicker.

The Vikings with an outstanding offseason with adding Cousins plus a very solid draft. They are now truly worthy of their name. They are looking like the best CF Team for the upcoming season. And the Cowboys are fast becoming one of the most compelling teams in the league, though losing Switzer is a big dissappointment.
 
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We have all been saying this for quite some time here. Perhaps the author's next article will delve into the cookie cutter scouting reports applied to every white player.

I will say that even though there is a lot to ridicule about Mike "Oily Hips" Mayock, he is the closest thing in the media to a genuine draft guru. I watched the NFL Network for the entire draft as there was no way I was going to endure the duo of Kiper and McShay on ESPN, and Mayock did know a lot about every player drafted, the kind of knowledge gained from film study rather than from the Caste book of phrases and propaganda. Of course a lot of it was stock cliches, but there's no way to be original every time. Many of the blacks were "raw," "projects," "play faster than their time," have "upside," etc., but he has to say that crap to explain why so many players with little production and/or poor measureables were picked if he wants to keep his job.

Mayock also barked at Rabbi Eisen a few times, as he has at times in the past. He does little to hide the fact that he hates the clown show elements of the draft, which grow more numerous every year. As Leonardfan noted, 15 years ago, after the first several rounds a lot of the draft coverage was devoted to interviewing various head coaches and GMs to let them explain their picks and strategies. Now it's overloaded with SJW propaganda and of course the wildly over the top black worshiping that characterizes the corporate media in general.
 
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Despite some of the stupid things he says, I still think Mike Mayock is the most fair and level headed out of all the TV talking heads in regards to the draft. He was honest about Lamar Jackson when he called his performance at the combine "skittish and erratic" and likened his game to playground hoops. Of course, if you go and look up that Youtube video, you can see all the blacks and DWF brand him as a "racist" for simply pointing out the obvious.
 

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Shadowlight should be happy. Troy Apke got drafted high in the fourth. Watson, Cantrell, Berrios and Quinn all got drafted.

So now it's time for him to start the 2019 NFL Draft thread.


I remember when the 2017 draft was over thinking the run on white WRs looks to be on thin ice. But for the last two years there have been a combined 9 WRs taken albeit too many of them very late in the draft.

While an early look at 2020 looks down right awful we need to keep a few things in mind. One is that if a player like Apke can explode his senior year there is always the hope that white "late bloomers" will emerge. But as always getting invited to the Combine is the single most important step to get a foot in the door. Or at the very least get invited to the big post season all star games aka Senior Bowl like Justin Watson.

Without getting into specifics I see roughly four white WRs who have a decent shot of getting drafted in 2019. But as always I am cautiously optimistic because things can change for the worse in a hurry. Overall though 2019 looks pretty solid at least at this point in time.

Another trend I foresee is the rise of the white RB. Most likely not to the extent we have seen with white WRs but I expect to see one or two white RBs drafted on a consistent basis starting as soon as the 2019 draft.

I also suspect we have not seen the last of Ivy Leaguers like Watson getting drafted. And the MAC has a lot of white talent to draw from.

And I would hope the dwindling defensive trend when it comes to white players starts to turn around.

As pleased as I was with this year's draft despite some grievous omissions like DE Joe Ostman, I am burnt out like a kid the day after Christmas. A weird let down after all the build up.

But the good news is we have seen some really awful drafts in the not too distant past and this one was clearly a cut above those joyless affairs.

Thanks again to everyone for their input. I rearranged my schedule just to read all the posts from last night.
 
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Aikman actually had a good honest assessment of Jackson too. I heard a little of it - he said he was a day 2 guy. The media, draft “expert” and dwf blind worship of Jackson as an actual qb with a playing style that will work long term in the NFL is going to blow up in their faces again. BSPNs racist Undefeated website ( along with other websites that posted the same themed article) posted a couple articles stating how the team that drafts him will need to build their offense around his strengths so they provide him that built in excuse for when he fails. They can say that it was the fault of the coaching staff and not Jackson’s fault.

The lack of recall or memory by the supposed “experts” when the qb revolution was supposed to happen in 2013 with scam, toucan, gremlin etc. to see it all implode as defensive coordinators figured out how to play the zone/read option offenses effectively. When Vick was in the league they figured out to put a spy on him. The improvisational part of what Eraserhead does is what supposedly makes him the next black Jesus qb ( taking off and running after making one read) so how is that going to be a coaches fault when it fails him because he can’t process information quick enough to make his progressions?

Meanwhile white players were discriminated throughout the draft process all the way down through college recruiting - still waiting on the undefeated to report on that...
 

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I think Jackson will end up having a career trajectory similar to that of Vince Young. He went to a team that isn't complete dogsh*t and they have some pieces around him to where he doesn't have to do much right away. He won't put up good numbers but the Ravens might still win games (Remember AHDIW?) Jackson of course will get the credit and will be treated like the great black hope at QB before fans and coaches start to realize that the Ravens are winning IN SPITE of Jackson, not because of him. He'll then be run out of the league once it because clearly apparent that he can't cut it in the NFL.
 

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With Jackson, his apparent lack of brain power to run an NFL offense seems pretty obvious, more so than with previous great black hopes, even though no one dares to talk about it. Wonderlic scores and other types of mental aptitude measurements should be as readily and freely discussed as physical measurements, especially when it comes to being a quarterback. It's not racist any more than talking about 40 times is racist against Whites. It doesn't mean Jackson can't be a wide receiver or running back, or that he's not capable of handling a variety of different non-sports jobs, it just means he's likely not cut out to be a quarterback any more than a guy who runs a 4.65 40 is cut out to be a cornerback. Oh wait, there were about a dozen black CBs drafted over the weekend with 40 times that slow. . .
 
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Todd McShay said the following approximately 30 seconds after Phillips was drafted: “He obviously has athletic limitations.”

His limitations somehow didn’t prevent him from making over 100 tackles, though.


I wanted to touch on this. McShay was unbearable the entire draft. It seemed like every white kid that was picked McShay said something abut their "limited athleticism". And that comment about Harrison Phillips really irked me. There were 7 DT's picked in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Phillips was the last picked. PJ Hall was the first but he wasn't invited to the combine so I'm not including him in this research.

BJ Hill- NC State- 6'3", 311 lbs, 4.99 40, 35 reps of 225, 26.5" vert, 101" broad, 7.28 3 cone, 4.53 short shuttle
Nathan Shepherd- Fort Hays State- 6'4", 315 lbs, 5.09 40, N/A reps of 225, 31" vert, 112" broad, 7.5 3 cone, 4.53 short shuttle
Derrick Nnadi- Florida State- 6'1" 317 lbs, 5.38 40, 25 reps of 225, 27" vert, 96" broad, 8.15 3 cone, 5.02 short shuttle
Justin Jones- NC State- 6'3" 309 lbs, 5.09 40, 24 reps of 225, 29" vert, 104" broad, 7.82 3 cone, 4.74 short shuttle
Deadrin Senat- USF- 6'0" 314 lbs, 5.16 40, 35 reps of 225, 26" vert, 100" broad, 7.77 3 cone, 4.79 short shuttle
Harrison Phillips- Stanford- 6'3" 307 lbs, 42 reps of 225, 5.21 40, 32" vert, 103" broad, 7.28 3 cone, 4.50 short shuttle

When comparing Phillips to those guys. He did the most reps of 225, the highest vert, the fastest 3 cone and short shuttle. But somehow he has athletic limitations. I also must mention that out of that group of DT's Harrison Phillips had the longest arms measured at 33 7/8". McShay noted Phillips production but said he was puzzled how he creates pass much with his "athletic limitations". Also keep in mind out of this group of guys Harrison Phillips had the MOST sacks and TFLS in his college career.

McShay showed he is a complete moron and has absolutely no clue. It was only further proven by his comments on Justin Watson lacking athleticism even though he had a 40" vert and ran a 4.4.
 

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Shadowlight,

One couldn't watch a Central Michigan game without the announcers' absolutely loving Joe Ostman and for good reason... he's relentless, smooth and smart; Very good at using balance and technique to shed blockers. If he was a brutha, he would have been selected at the beginning of the 3rd round. CMUs Tyler Conklin, at a fairly-approved position was selected, but not Ostman? Hmmm
 

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Shadowlight,

One couldn't watch a Central Michigan game without the announcers' absolutely loving Joe Ostman and for good reason... he's relentless, smooth and smart; Very good at using balance and technique to shed blockers. If he was a brutha, he would have been selected at the beginning of the 3rd round. CMUs Tyler Conklin, at a fairly-approved position was selected, but not Ostman? Hmmm

Excellent breakdown of Ostman. Truly terrorized the MAC last couple years. Great pickup for Philly as an UDFA, in a fair world he's a 3rd rounder as you mentioned.

 

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celticdb15,

Good video! During the college bowl games, Joe Ostman and Justin Lawler weren't considered draftable (Senior) prospects by Uncle Todd McShay. He doesn't just 'know' how the NFL tends to operate, but he 'likes' it that way.
 

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It seems to me a lot of these teams are scouting based on the 40 yard dash and little else. They're taking the players with the fastest 40s and seemingly ignoring anything else.
 

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Back in the Ditka era it seemed like he kept two fullbacks on the roster and one would be a running fullback who was the between the tackles runner. Nall may have to be a Swiss Army Knife type back to make the 53 man roster, his ability to catch and run with the ball and be a downhill runner and block could cement his position. But the Bears do have Burton who is a very good blocking back.

Will he compete with Burton do you think ? It would be a great sign if he didn't and they had both in the side. Burton appears to be limited as a runner and recieving threat. I Don't want Nall to be the next Zach Line
 

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Will he compete with Burton do you think ? It would be a great sign if he didn't and they had both in the side. Burton appears to be limited as a runner and recieving threat. I Don't want Nall to be the next Zach Line
He may be competing for a swing back type of role where he can play tailback or fullback in certain formations. He needs to be versatile to make the roster as Howard and Cohen have two positions on lock down so he needs to be too valuable to be cut and potentially scooped up by another team.

PS, I actually think Buffalo would have been a better landing spot as McCoy is really a finesse back and dump truck fullback/running back Mike Tolbert isn't currently on the roster and looks to be unsigned for the upcoming season. So Nall could fill in for the power back role.
 
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I saw that NIU WR Chad Beebe got picked up by the colts after the draft. Unfortunately I haven't heard anything about Bradd Ellis (don't even know if he was pursuing the NFL) but after looking at his Senior stats its surprising that he didn't even get a look. 60 tackles, 2 TFL, 2 INT (both pick 6's), 18 pass deflections, 1 FF, 1 FR. I slightly assume that he had so many pass deflections because he was targeted often as a short white corner, since he's a good player he responded by breaking a bunch of them up. I really hope he gets a chance because the guy can play, at this point I wouldn't even care if they moved him to safety even though he clearly is a good corner and has corner size as well.
 

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I wanted to touch on this. McShay was unbearable the entire draft. It seemed like every white kid that was picked McShay said something abut their "limited athleticism". And that comment about Harrison Phillips really irked me. There were 7 DT's picked in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Phillips was the last picked. PJ Hall was the first but he wasn't invited to the combine so I'm not including him in this research.

BJ Hill- NC State- 6'3", 311 lbs, 4.99 40, 35 reps of 225, 26.5" vert, 101" broad, 7.28 3 cone, 4.53 short shuttle
Nathan Shepherd- Fort Hays State- 6'4", 315 lbs, 5.09 40, N/A reps of 225, 31" vert, 112" broad, 7.5 3 cone, 4.53 short shuttle
Derrick Nnadi- Florida State- 6'1" 317 lbs, 5.38 40, 25 reps of 225, 27" vert, 96" broad, 8.15 3 cone, 5.02 short shuttle
Justin Jones- NC State- 6'3" 309 lbs, 5.09 40, 24 reps of 225, 29" vert, 104" broad, 7.82 3 cone, 4.74 short shuttle
Deadrin Senat- USF- 6'0" 314 lbs, 5.16 40, 35 reps of 225, 26" vert, 100" broad, 7.77 3 cone, 4.79 short shuttle
Harrison Phillips- Stanford- 6'3" 307 lbs, 42 reps of 225, 5.21 40, 32" vert, 103" broad, 7.28 3 cone, 4.50 short shuttle

When comparing Phillips to those guys. He did the most reps of 225, the highest vert, the fastest 3 cone and short shuttle. But somehow he has athletic limitations. I also must mention that out of that group of DT's Harrison Phillips had the longest arms measured at 33 7/8". McShay noted Phillips production but said he was puzzled how he creates pass much with his "athletic limitations". Also keep in mind out of this group of guys Harrison Phillips had the MOST sacks and TFLS in his college career.

McShay showed he is a complete moron and has absolutely no clue. It was only further proven by his comments on Justin Watson lacking athleticism even though he had a 40" vert and ran a 4.4.

Excellent post. Illustrates yet again the racism in the NFL Draft and the racism of the media. The media works hand-in-glove with the NFL and the major college programs to implement, institutionalize, and perpetuate the (anti-White) status quo that has existed for over 30 years now. Taking the time to put together blatant, concrete examples of how the Caste System works is always very effective.
 
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