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It's sad that 6 Whites picked in the first round is considered a "good" result. Some mock drafts, which I hope are wrong, are showing only 4. Still better than 2015 (1 White player out of the first 48, more Polynesians than Whites in those 48).
 

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Following along with what Don , Leo and others here are looking for in this draft I too am looking for certain things but before I post that Mike Greenberg chimed in on Caff this morning and it was a doozy. The NBA dominated the show and at the end of the show Greenberg was salivating, drooling and whatever else this ******* does when he starts describing the wonders of black athletes and future NBA draft picks Josh Jackson or Lonzo Ball or the Bucks' "Greek Freak." Meanwhile before they launched into a segment about Ray Rice--who apparently is doing NFL social work which is fine---which included a mention of Joe Mixon who Greenberg thought would/should be drafted in the first round, Greenberg brought up Caff. As for Caff he said he was shooting up the boards and that( even caste friendly) Todd McShay had him in the top ten. A visibly bewildered Greenberg said Caff was not even much on the NFL radar last season and this year was looked at as a second round pick but" somehow has managed to weasel his way into the top ten" -I am paraphrasing here---and then went on to say Cook and Fournette were better and should be picked before Caff. A rather blatant drive by shooting if you ask me and while not entirely surprising it came off as another cheap shot at a white skill player. Opinions differ on NFL prospects but Greenberg, who is the most well known and watched sports talk show host in the country could have framed it better by acknowledging Caffs talents and athletic ability but he chose to take the cheap snide piss on the white athlete approach which has become a staple of his caste agenda. All the more sweeter if his team the Jets end up picking Caff and then watching Greenberg implode.
 

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Part One of Two.This draft feels different to me. The biggest game changer is Caff. When was the last time a skilled white offensive player was destined to be picked in the first half of the first round that wasn't a QB or TE? In 2007 WR Anthony Gonzalez, who had nowhere near the pre draft buzz Caff is getting,was picked at the end of the first round. And even though he was as white as a ghost with an Hispanic last name the general public most likely assumed he was part "brother." And Caff is not one of those white hybrid fullbacks. He is a true blue halfback. And he isn't the type to play kid in a line at caste world either. Remember he spoke out against type casting of white skill players and isn't afraid of rocking the boat. He skipped the bowl game partially because that turf was suspect and what do you know his teammate QB tore his ACL on it. He has recently declined all personal workouts with teams and it is a another smart move. He is arguably now the player with the most talk swirl going on and he is moving up and away on the boards so why in the hell should he prostitute himself to teams when he is already at the top of the heap. The real word leaked out that a team in the teens has "signed him" if he makes it that far. So he will not last past the mid teens and with some projections having him go as high at 2 with the 49er's all bets are off on this guy at the moment. I like the Eagles scenario in many ways not to mention the draft is in Philly so the crowd approval would be a great thing to see on opening draft night. But beggars can't be choosers and us beggars here at caste football will have to live with the team that picks him but a plodding dullard offense is not a good destination for Caff.
So whatever happens in this draft the wild card this year is Caff breaking the caste barrier.
That said as usual the best caste barometer at least to me always boils down to the Wide Receivers. I will discuss that situation in Part Two.
 
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Don't know if this has been covered. At times it's impossible for me to read every post, but my concern with McCaffrey is the pounding he's going to take no matter where he goes. He's not very big and I remember how the Viking defense, during practice, took shots a Gerhardt and he was bigger than McCaffrey. I hope they don't kill him before he gets a chance!
 
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Don't know if this has been covered. At times it's impossible for me to read every post, but my concern with McCaffrey is the pounding he's going to take no matter where he goes. He's not very big and I remember how the Viking defense, during practice, took shots a Gerhardt and he was bigger than McCaffrey. I hope they don't kill him before he gets a chance!
Caff should definately put on 5-10 pounds of Muscle to grind out a season, but that literally is the only negative I see in him.
 

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Part Two of Two. I might post a couple of more bits before the draft but this should pretty much close out things for me as we await the big three days. I will leave the QB's to the QB guys here but want to add the other major intrigue for me day one apart from Christian is if some one pulls the trigger on DE/LB TJ Watt. I predict many teams will regret not pulling the trigger on TJ .
Briefly on D we should get to see a few DE's and LB's get selected but the DB situation is pretty bad. Gerry if picked is probably headed to special teams and Corbin McCarthy, who tested well, has an outside chance of getting selected.
But for me this draft once again boils down to the glamour position WR. Here is where the rubber meets the road for caste purposes. From what I can tell their are pretty much two sure picks in Cupp and Hansen. Quick Switzer is also pretty secure but there are still black clouds circling around him so I am not totally at ease. I am a huge fan of Switzer but even I will admit some teams schemes do not fit him which limits his appeal to some degree. BUT, for the right team we are looking at an electric ultra exciting little play maker. Assuming Switzer does get picked we will see if the NFL will finally "jump the shark" so to speak. By that I mean with Trent Taylor hanging out there and Thomas Sperbeck flashing speed (wrongfully disputed by the turd patrol) you would hope a team would take them. Beyond that are the two white ultra athletes that the NFL has routinely ignored for a long time. Bursting with potential you have the terrific size/speed combo of Brandon Reilly and lets call a spade a spade the mind boggling quickness and speed of Riley McCarron, it is up to the NFL to finally figure out that the fan base is DYING to see these white athletes perform and thrill us. Every draft seems like a referendum on the future of the white athlete but this one seems more so than usual and I really do hope that teams don't pull up short like they always do when it comes to white WR's. In my mind all of the above should be drafted. If only two get drafted I will go ballistic. If they add Switzer then the status quo will have been met. But that still doesn't cut it. I would accept five at this point and would be ecstatic if some one took McCarron. A long shot I know but we need the worm to turn real bad.
 

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Some decent draft news from Gruden who is probably the best we have (along with Aikman) for announcers not being full blown caste whores. I respect Gruden's opinion moreso than any of the other "experts" since he actually coached in the league. I would love to see Peterman become a nice caste buster on day 1 of the draft. I had him slotted as a 3rd/4th rounder but it he is able to elevate his stock to late 1st/early 2nd that would be a nice small draft victory for us.

ESPN's Jon Gruden singled out Pittsburgh QB Nathan Peterman as the draft-eligible passer who is most NFL-ready.

Holding a conference all Wednesday, Gruden said he thinks four quarterbacks will be selected in the first round, and lumped in Peterman with Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Mitchell Trubisky, and DeShone Kizer as the candidates. Peterman (6'3/226) A transfer from Tennessee, Peterman played in a pro-style offense at Pitt, which obviously gives him a leg up in some evaluators' eyes. NFL.com's Lance Zierlein recently compared Peterman to Derek Carr. We doubt he goes on Day 1.
 

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Part Two of Two. I might post a couple of more bits before the draft but this should pretty much close out things for me as we await the big three days. I will leave the QB's to the QB guys here but want to add the other major intrigue for me day one apart from Christian is if some one pulls the trigger on DE/LB TJ Watt. I predict many teams will regret not pulling the trigger on TJ .
Briefly on D we should get to see a few DE's and LB's get selected but the DB situation is pretty bad. Gerry if picked is probably headed to special teams and Corbin McCarthy, who tested well, has an outside chance of getting selected.
But for me this draft once again boils down to the glamour position WR. Here is where the rubber meets the road for caste purposes. From what I can tell their are pretty much two sure picks in Cupp and Hansen. Quick Switzer is also pretty secure but there are still black clouds circling around him so I am not totally at ease. I am a huge fan of Switzer but even I will admit some teams schemes do not fit him which limits his appeal to some degree. BUT, for the right team we are looking at an electric ultra exciting little play maker. Assuming Switzer does get picked we will see if the NFL will finally "jump the shark" so to speak. By that I mean with Trent Taylor hanging out there and Thomas Sperbeck flashing speed (wrongfully disputed by the turd patrol) you would hope a team would take them. Beyond that are the two white ultra athletes that the NFL has routinely ignored for a long time. Bursting with potential you have the terrific size/speed combo of Brandon Reilly and lets call a spade a spade the mind boggling quickness and speed of Riley McCarron, it is up to the NFL to finally figure out that the fan base is DYING to see these white athletes perform and thrill us. Every draft seems like a referendum on the future of the white athlete but this one seems more so than usual and I really do hope that teams don't pull up short like they always do when it comes to white WR's. In my mind all of the above should be drafted. If only two get drafted I will go ballistic. If they add Switzer then the status quo will have been met. But that still doesn't cut it. I would accept five at this point and would be ecstatic if some one took McCarron. A long shot I know but we need the worm to turn real bad.

This draft boasts the deepest WR class I can recall for our guys. Also the defensive back class is actually deeper than it has been in awhile but the media and "experts" have steered away the cucked lemmings from so many of our guys.
 

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Does anyone know the deal with Zach Hoffpauir and Taylor Barton is? I couldn't find anything about them for their pro day and not sure if they have decided to walk away from the game following their senior seasons.
 
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Bob McGinn's yearly draft positional preview is out. Here is the excerpt on McCaffery from unnamed scouts. Sounds like scout 3 is a bitter hard core caste whore. The reason his production was not as good as 2015 is due to the fact they had no stability at the QB position - Hogan was an all time Stanford great QB and Burns/Chryst struggled. How hard is that to figure out? This anonymous guy is a scout? give me a break.

CHRISTIAN McCAFFREY, Stanford (5-11, 203, 4.49, 1): “He’s the second-best back behind Fournette, who is head and shoulders above everybody,” said one scout. “He’s subtle with how good he is. Even though he’s had all the acclaim he’s still really good.” Comes from a family of distinguished athletes in suburban Denver; father, Ed, was a 13-year NFL receiver. His interview was compared by one scout to Tim Tebow’s. Put on a memorable receiving show at the combine. “Have you ever seen a guy catch the ball that good?” said another scout. “He’s a mismatch guy, and when they get in the league they make hay. If he moves out to the edge you might have your ‘sam’ backer on him. The other thing is, you don’t have to worry about that kid. He has been prepared for the NFL since he was born. When you get guys with dads that played in the league, they’ve been told all their lives to compete.” Third-year junior finished with 632 carries for 3,922 (6.2) and 21 TDs to go with 99 catches for 1,206. Broke Barry Sanders’ single-season record for all-purpose yards. Best year was 2015, when he was Heisman runner-up. “Everyone’s anointing him as the next great white (hope),” said a third scout. “I’m a little skeptical. He didn’t dominate as much as he did sophomore year. Why is that? What’s the value of a third-down back and return specialist?” Wonderlic of 21.
 
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Of course, the usual cuckspects will never be called out for their racism and hypocrisy for fantasizing about their next Great Black Hope at QB with DeShaun and DeShone and DeUpside and It's Pat! (Mahomes), but whining that it's rayciss for White people to actively root for a White running back to succeed.
 

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"Even though he beat Barry Sanders' all time all purpose yards record last year, and amassed nearly 4,000 all purpose yards in his career. I'm skeptical of him because he's white."
- Classic caste whore "scout."
 

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Of course, the usual cuckspects will never be called out for their racism and hypocrisy for fantasizing about their next Great Black Hope at QB with DeShaun and DeShone and DeUpside and It's Pat! (Mahomes), but whining that it's rayciss for White people to actively root for a White running back to succeed.

Great post! The 3 bums you listed Will all be over drafted, and Watson is the only one with an impressive college pedigree, but even he's not a fool proof product. Too many turnovers and a dink n dunk spread system. NFL never learns black guy's struggle at QB In the league and that's a ****** fact! Despite nearly 50% of college QBs being dindus in this day n age they still push out a shitty product year after year in hopes one of their "great black hopes" takes the league by storm and makes it. If Eric Dickerson can claim RB as "a black man's position" I'm claiming QB as ours and the numbers are on our side= fact.
 

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After all these years of Tech having high powered offenses conducted by white QBs and all it takes for them is a magical mulatto to get a 1st rounder and break the "system" label that has plagued so many white passers when it came to evaluation time. Screw Mahomes and his fugly fohawk.
 

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I was watching the NFL Network the other night and Mahomes and David Carr were seeing how fast they could throw a football (with Heath Evans trying to catch their fastballs). Carr is 37 and it's been five years since he threw his last NFL pass, yet he threw just a hair slower than Mahomes and his "cannon arm" -- they had a radar gun and Mahomes registered 60 mph and Carr 59 mph on their fastest throws. Carr might still be playing in the NFL if the expansion Texans hadn't ruined his career by forcing him to play behind the worst o-line in NFL history for five straight seasons.
 

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I was watching the NFL Network the other night and Mahomes and David Carr were seeing how fast they could throw a football (with Heath Evans trying to catch their fastballs). Carr is 37 and it's been five years since he threw his last NFL pass, yet he threw just a hair slower than Mahomes and his "cannon arm" -- they had a radar gun and Mahomes registered 60 mph and Carr 59 mph on their fastest throws. Carr might still be playing in the NFL if the expansion Texans hadn't ruined his career by forcing him to play behind the worst o-line in NFL history for five straight seasons.

That's a pretty amazing feat considering NFL.com has him credited with taking 267 sacks in his career.
 

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Three things. I would be remiss not to mention this but Celtic gets a shoutout from me because I see his name quite often under the" like" category under a lot of my posts. It is encouraging to see those "likes" so thanks to all those likers and Celtic who strikes me as a good sport.
Second we have a fast TE in George Kittle and a DE with wheels, Trey Hendrickson and a rangy LB in Alex Anzalone. All are expected to get drafted. One other small school guy who is also projected to get drafted is LB Dylan Cole. He tested really well with a 39" vertical and a 4.52 40. Look to see his name on day three. Speaking of draft times etc. I put together a time list for upcoming shows.
Remember the NFL Draft itself starts Thursday night at 8.00PM EST for the first round. The second and third rounds start at 7.00PM and rounds three through seven Saturday at noon . The draft is covered by the NFL network and ESPN(or ESPN 2) although I think for the first hour Friday night only the NFL network is covering it but I would have to double check that. All times are PM.
In the meantime below is a list of channels and times of mock drafts. All times are PM EST.
Tonight at 8.30 and repeated Friday night at 9.00 is a one hour mock from Mel Kiper and Todd McShay on ESPN2.
Sunday night the NFL network has their mock draft from 8.00 to 10.00.
ESPN has a nation mock on Tuesday from 8.00 to 10.00 and is repeated the same night on ESPN2 from 10.00 to midnight.
Mike Maycock from the NFL network has his mock draft on Wednesday from 8.00 to 9.00.
 

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Three things. I would be remiss not to mention this but Celtic gets a shoutout from me because I see his name quite often under the" like" category under a lot of my posts. It is encouraging to see those "likes" so thanks to all those likers and Celtic who strikes me as a good sport.
Second we have a fast TE in George Kittle and a DE with wheels, Trey Hendrickson and a rangy LB in Alex Anzalone. All are expected to get drafted. One other small school guy who is also projected to get drafted is LB Dylan Cole. He tested really well with a 39" vertical and a 4.52 40. Look to see his name on day three. Speaking of draft times etc. I put together a time list for upcoming shows.
Remember the NFL Draft itself starts Thursday night at 8.00PM EST for the first round. The second and third rounds start at 7.00PM and rounds three through seven Saturday at noon . The draft is covered by the NFL network and ESPN(or ESPN 2) although I think for the first hour Friday night only the NFL network is covering it but I would have to double check that. All times are PM.
In the meantime below is a list of channels and times of mock drafts. All times are PM EST.
Tonight at 8.30 and repeated Friday night at 9.00 is a one hour mock from Mel Kiper and Todd McShay on ESPN2.
Sunday night the NFL network has their mock draft from 8.00 to 10.00.
ESPN has a nation mock on Tuesday from 8.00 to 10.00 and is repeated the same night on ESPN2 from 10.00 to midnight.
Mike Maycock from the NFL network has his mock draft on Wednesday from 8.00 to 9.00.

Dylan Cole is a mulatto.
 

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Cripes no wonder no one has mentioned him here. All the while I am thinking I unearthed a gem? But it is hard to slip one past the goal on Leo. But the scouts did say he has terrible hip swivel so just a straight line no change of direction bowling ball suited for special teams so no great loss at the end of the day. Hendrickson on the other hand is seen at worst as a situational pass rusher and Anzalone is a three down backer as long as he stays healthy which has been a concern. This mulatto thing is increasingly making our jobs more difficult.
 

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Fortunately, next year I can definitely see us having 11 of the first 20 picks off the board - Darnold (QB), Rosen (QB), Allen (QB), Browning (QB), Nelson (OG), McGlinchey (OT), Hyatt (OT), Hubbard (DE), Cameron Smith (LB), and Gustin (LB). Maybe a little too optimistic?
 

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Here is my write-up with a week to go before the draft. Going to be a black draft for sure. Don't waste your time watching this thing. I will just follow one of the draft trackers.

2017 NFL Draft Primer

Quarterbacks

Every year the same recycled talk about QBs gets thrown out there regarding how the position is in trouble due to college QBs playing in offenses that do not translate to the NFL yet every year the draft "experts" continue to throw out black quarterbacks as the top QBs in the class and fail to connect the dots. This year's QB class has more black quarterbacks than usual with half of the participants in the Senior Bowl and Combine being non-white. Call me crazy but to me it seems much more of a formulated effort and push by the NFL handlers to get more non-whites into the position based on race rather than the skill and ability. Longer leashes are afforded to non-white QBs with constant excuses being provided by the media for them. Compare that to white QBs - especially the younger ones who are under constant media scrutiny and a negative media microscope from the moment they step into the league. One only has to go back to last year to see how Jared Goff, Christian Hackenberg and Paxton Lynch have been criticized even though they were all rookies. This year the QB class for our guys is not deep at all (according to the "experts"). I will list some additional names but the draft media has done a great job of limiting the number of white QBs worthy of getting drafted to three:

1. Mitchell Trubisky UNC - He will more than likely be the first QB off the board. Great combination of intelligence, accuracy, arm strength and athleticism. I have been a fan of his for the past few seasons and he should of started over the black quarterback at UNC. Reminds me of Aaron Rodgers minus the funky release point. If you can I would read some of the interviews with him, he comes off as calm, cool and collected - not really rattled by anything. A nice quiet, stoic confidence.

2. Davis Webb Cal - Lost his job due to injury at Texas Tech where he put up similar numbers to the overrated Mahomes. Webb was a casualty of a wigger head coach - Kingsbury. He transferred to Cal and led a prolific PAC 12 offense against better defenses than he faced in the Big 12. He is a big, strong armed intelligent passer but is a little streaky with accuracy. Reminds me alot of Philip Rivers.

3. Nate Peterman Pitt - Another victim of a wigger head coach (Butch Jones) and an anti-white purge. Peterman transferred to Pitt where he became a very good player in a pro style offense. He has been very undersold during the draft process and seems to have been intentionally ignored as the draft "experts" promoted their favorite black quarterbacks. With a week to go before the draft Peterman is now all of the sudden getting some very postive pre-draft buzz so hopefully that translates to being selected higher than he has been projected. He reminds me of Kirk Cousins - he has enough arm strength to make the throws but is more of a short/mid range passing QB, he played under center in college and is a heady, intelligent QB with great accuracy, athleticism and the ability to throw on the run.


After our top 3 QBs the draft media has paid little or no attention to any other white QBs in the class. As mentioned above the Senior Bowl and Combine overlooked white QBs. The QB class was bitten by the injury bug as well with Baylor QB Seth Russell and Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly suffering season ending injuries that did not allow them to participate in the draft process. My preseason sleeper CJ Beathard had a mediocre senior season which really hurt his draft stock (perhaps due to Iowa's very conservative offense?). Zach Terrell and Cooper Rush are two prolific, experienced MAC QBs that have not received much attention as well. QBs like Wes Lunt (Illinois) and Alek Torgerson (Penn) made impressions early during the pre draft process but again were ignored by the Senior Bowl and Combine. It's always hard to project a player because a team can sometimes be very high on one and it is totally under the radar.

Draft Projections (based on where the caste masters will draft them rather than my personal projections)

1. Mitchell Trubisky - 1st round
2. Davis Webb - 2nd-3rd round
3. Nate Peterman - 2nd-3rd round
4. C.J. Beathard - 5th - UDFA
5. Alek Torgerson - 6th - UDFA
6. Cooper Rush - 6th - UDFA
7. Seth Russell - 6th - UDFA
8. Chad Kelly - 6th - UDFA
9. Patrick Towles - 6th - UDFA
10. Ryan Higgins - 6th - UDFA
11. Wes Lunt - 7th - UDFA
12. Zach Terrell - 7th - UDFA
13. Trevor Knight - UDFA
14. Mitch Leidner - UDFA
15. Taysom Hill - UDFA
16. Brady Gustafson - UDFA


Running Backs

Christian McCaffery has been a much talked about prospect for the past few seasons. He is one of the most dynamic, athletic and versatile prospects to come out in a long time. He's the first white RB to threaten the caste system as a potential first round pick since Toby Gerhart was drafted in the mid 2nd round in 2010. He is a true threat to the caste system because he has spoken out about being a white athlete and the stigmas assigned to him by the cucked sports media. As fans and supporters of him we can only hope that he ends up being drafted by a solid team. After Christian we probably will not see another RB drafted. Their are a few small school FCS level gems in Lamar RB Kade Harrington and Chattannooga RB Derrick Craine who have the ability to play in the NFL but will more than likely have to take the Danny Woodhead route. Va Tech FB Sam Rogers will probably be a late round selection but is more than just a WSTD/lead blocker as he displayed during his
college career.

Draft Projections

1. Christian McCaffery - 1st round
2. Sam Rogers - 6th - UDFA
3. Kade Harrington - UDFA
4. Derrick Craine - UDFA


Wide Recievers

This years WR class is one of the deepest in recent memory. Again the caste system did a great job in preventing many of our WRs from participating in the Shrine Game, Senior bowl and Combine. Cooper Kupp is likely to be our first WR drafted after having a prolific and dominant career for FCS Eastern Washington in which he put up huge numbers against FBS foes Washington, Oregon and Washington St. Chad Hansen who's path to the NFL perfectly illustrates the caste system emerged as Cal's leading WR during the season and was one of the best in the nation. Ryan Switzer is the prototypical white WR that the Pats have deployed during their dominance of the NFL. Trent Taylor also falls in the Switzer mold. Tanner Gentry and Thomas Sperbeck are in my opinion two of the most disrespected prospects in the entire draft - both were dominant during their college careers but totally ignored by all the "experts" along with the draft process. Look for these guys and others to be signed quickly after the draft and more than likely play well this preseason only to follow the typical route of white WRs.

Draft Projections

1. Cooper Kupp - 2nd-3rd
2. Chad Hansen - 2nd-4th
3. Ryan Switzer - 4th-6th
4. Trent Taylor - 5th - 7th
5. Tanner Gentry - 6th - UDFA
7. Jordan Westerkamp - 6th - UDFA
8. Thomas Sperbeck - 6th - UDFA
9. Brandon Reilly - UDFA
10. Drew Morgan - UDFA
11. Gehrig Dieter - UDFA
12. Riley McCarron - UDFA
13. River Cracraft - UDFA
14. Drew Wolitarsky - UDFA


Tight Ends

Did you know that this is the deepest draft ever for tight ends according to all the draft "experts"? Did you know this also happens to be the blackest TE class I can ever recall? That's some caste logic if I ever heard it. Bear in mind in the current NFL the TE position is dominated by elite white players. If you end up watching the draft don't be surprised to hear alot of caste speak like this guy is raw, not a great blocker , more of a receiver than tight end but has tons of upside etc. This draft is full of upside laden, future black TE disappointments. Entering the season Michigan TE Jake Buttwas being penciled in as a 1st round pick but he suffered an ACL injury in his bowl game. He is now being treated as almost an afterthought. A couple of small schoolers - Adam Shaheen and Eric Saubert have benefitted from the draft process and should be drafted in the mid-rounds. George Kittle was widely ignored but blew up the combine and is the most athletic TE in this class and he is actually a really good blocker but since he isn't black, lacks a wide nose or an african last name he won't get the hype of that miami TE who was supposedly the most athletic player at the position.

Draft Projections

1. Jake Butt 2nd-3rd
2. Adam Shaheen 2nd-3rd
3. Eric Saubert - 4th-5th
4. George Kittle - 4th-5th
5. Blake Jarwin - 6th - UDFA
6. Hayden Plinke - 6th - UDFA
7. Scott Orndorff - 6th - UDFA
8. Jacob Hollister - 7th - UDFA
9. Colin Jeter - UDFA
10. Josiah Price - UDFA
11. Jake Maulhardt - UDFA
12. Taylor McNamaa - UDFA
13. Mason Schreck - UDFA
14. Antony Auclair - UDFA


Offensive Guard

Another year, another batch of sumos. Their is white talent here and the two top projected guards are white. Forrest Lamp was a left tackle in college and a very good one but since he doesn't have the supposed arm length everyone is pushing him to guard. We have guys from big time programs like Michigan and Georgia but all the experts decided to cram a bunch of small schools sumos in to push these guys down the rankings.

Draft Projections

1. Forrest Lamp - 1st
2. Dan Feeney - 1st-2nd
3. Ben Braden - 5th - UDFA
4. Cameron Lee - 6th - UDFA
5. Kyle Kalis - 6th - UDFA
6. Corey Levin - 6th - UDFA
7. Sean Harlow - 7th - UDFA
8. Greg Pyke - UDFA
9. Erik Austell - UDFA



Center

A position that is dominated by white players.

1. Pat Elflein - 3rd-4th
2. Ethan Pocic - 4th - 5th
3. Tyler Orlosky - 5th
4. Chase Roullier - 6th - UDFA
5. Jon Toth - 7TH - UDFA
6. JJ Dielman - 7th - UDFA


Offensive Tackle

Much like Offensive Guard, the tackle rankings find two great white talents at the top. Plenty of other good white tackles are available but again like OG they are pushed down the rankings by long armed, upside laden, small school players. This is not a comprehensive list but these seem to be the most talked about white tackles.

1. Garrett Bolles - 1st
2. Ryan Ramczyk - 1st
3. Adam Bisnowaty - 4th
4. Will Holden - 4th
5. Erik Magnuson - 6th - UDFA
6. Connor McDermott - 6TH - UDFA
7. Storm Norton - 6TH - UDFA
8. Chad Wheeler - 6TH - UDFA
9. Nathan Theaker - 6TH - UDFA



Defensive End

Hendrickson was criminally underrated all season, during the draft process and still is being considered a 4th rounder at best. Dimick was one of the most productive DEs in college football during his career. He was a combine and senior bowl snub but performed well at his pro day. The prospect list is thin thanks to the caste system.

1. Trey Hendrickson - 3rd - 4th
2. Hunter Dimick - 5th - UDFA
3. Garrett Sickles - 6th - UDFA
4. Pat O'Connor - UDFA
5. Karter Schult - UDFA
6. Evan Schwan - UDFA


Defensive Tackle

Every player on this list is more than capable of being a solid NFL defensive tackle. However the trend is to convert white Dline men to Oline starting in college. Glasgow could be the latest victim of this caste trend. Hopefully he goes to a team that will not do that. Joey Ivie played well in the supposed best conference in the country, performed well at the Shrine game but was a combine/senior bowl snub. Bevins was a productive small school guy and tested out well much like Justin Zimmer last year.

1. Ryan Glasgow - 4th - 6th
2. Joey Ivie - 6th - UDFA
3. Matthew Godin - 6th - UDFA
4. Collin Bevins - 7th - UDFA
5. Casey Sayles - UDFA
6. Truman Gutapfel - UDFA
7. Patrick Ricard - UDFA
8. AJ Wolf - UDFA
9. Rob Bain - UDFA
10. Cole Langer - UDFA
11. Danny O'Brien - UDFA


OLB

Seeing another Watt getting drafted early will be a consolation prize but again this list is full of white players who were very good and productive in college and tested out average or above average athletically only to be considered fringe draftable players. Hopefully we are surprised on draft day but I am not holding my breath. Munson and Brown should easily be 3rd/4th rounders in a fair world. Milano would be a good S/LB hybrid.

1. TJ Watt - 1st - 2nd
2. Vince Biegel - 4th
3. Matt Milano - 5th - UDFA
4. Dylan Donahue - 6th - UDFA
5. Richie Brown - 6th - UDFA
6. Calvin Munson - 6th - UDFA



ILB

Anzalone should be a quality LB in the NFL. Gedeon is a traditional "tackling machine" LB which is exactly what an LB should be. Vallejo might surprise as he has had some buzz around him. Boulware will probably suffer from Scooby Wright syndrome - being a talented playmaker all over the field but since he ran a slow 40 will be downgraded.

1. Alex Anzalone - 3RD - 4th
2. Ben Gedeon - 5th - 7th
3. Tanner Vallejo - 5th - 7th
4. Ben Boulware - 6th - UDFA
5. Brooks Ellis - 7th - UDFA
6. Riley Bullough - UDFA


Safety

What started out as a promising draft class prior to the season has pretty much fallen apart due to the caste system. Gerry was projected as a 2/3rd rounder but is now being viewed as a late rounder. Steelhammer has pretty much fallen off the map and when compared to the overrated Navy black quarterback who had no position yet was drafted, Steelhammer has recieved no such notoriety of being a great player at a service academy. Dallas Reynolds is another overlooked player, he may go a little earlier than expected. Musso was a playmaker all season - knocked Fournette out of the game and tested well but since he is white and undersized is being written off. I don't even know what the deal with Barton and Hoffpauir are - no pro day workout numbers. They might of just walked away from the game rather than deal with the caste system. DeAndrade is a CB but projected to his racially correct position.

1. Nate Gerry - 4th - 6th
2. Dallas Reynolds - 5th - UDFA
3. Casey DeAndrade - UDFA
4. Tony Annese - UDFA
5. Leo Musso - UDFA
6. Corbin McCarthy - UDFA
7. Weston Steelhammer - UDFA
8. Anthony Cioffi - UDFA
9. Dylan Haines - UDFA
10. Zach Hoffpauir - not pursuing football?
11. Taylor Barton - not pursuing football?
 
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Great job, Leonardfan. I'm sure I'll watch most of it, like I almost always do.
 

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Thanks Shadowlight and good write up LF. My thumbs stay seemingly attached to that like button, It's a useful way of showing y'all I have read and acknowledged your opinions so I'm not shy when using it.
 

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Get ready to laugh at delusional negro syndrome:

Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer believes that he has the ability to become the greatest quarterback of all time.

Explain yourself, Mr. Kizer. Said the Day 1 hopeful, "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play." The 6-foot-4, 230-pounder then doubled-down on his self-hyperbole by saying, "Imagine taking Brady's intellect and Brady's preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton's body." Kizer has been thrashed about in some corners during the draft process, but if nothing else, it would appear that his confidence has not waned. But about that thrashing -- Sporting News' analyst Eric Galko hears that concerns about Kizer's mental makeup (among other factors) could cause him to slide into late second-round territory.
 

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Get ready to laugh at delusional negro syndrome:

Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer believes that he has the ability to become the greatest quarterback of all time.

Explain yourself, Mr. Kizer. Said the Day 1 hopeful, "No one else can do what I can do. And I've truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game -- this is bold -- I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play." The 6-foot-4, 230-pounder then doubled-down on his self-hyperbole by saying, "Imagine taking Brady's intellect and Brady's preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton's body." Kizer has been thrashed about in some corners during the draft process, but if nothing else, it would appear that his confidence has not waned. But about that thrashing -- Sporting News' analyst Eric Galko hears that concerns about Kizer's mental makeup (among other factors) could cause him to slide into late second-round territory.

I was just about to post this. More like EJ Manuel's brain with Josh Freeman's body.
 
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