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Air Force WR is the latest upside afflete from the academies that will get drafted. 6'4 215 possesion WR being compared to the Vikings WR Laquon Treadwell(BUST!!) If Robinette was white his speed would be questioned and he wouldn't be in any All Star Games...

Hoping Navy's Will Worth gets a shot In the league. Midget Keenan Reynolds did but has struggled being a WR. Simply doesn't have the hands to do it!!

**Also it's ****** up that South Dakota St. WR Jake Wieneke 6'6 205 hasn't received any All Star Game invites. The caste system stays in place by ignoring talented white guys and digging in obscure places to find more black talent. Screw that!

Gentry has to be the biggest snub. He was flat out dominant this year.
 

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Gentry has to be the biggest snub. He was flat out dominant this year.

I like Gentry a lot his dad and a bunch of Wyoming fans followed the CF Twitter page a few weeks back when I was praising his spectacular bowl game performance. Rooting for the guy! Looks like he's going to have to take the hard way to the league..
 

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I haven't been following the Senior Bowl as closely as I did the Shrine just because it's so damn black. Savage has really done a great job neglecting white athletes. From what I have read so far:

- Nate Peterman is the best QB at the Senior Bowl, David Webb has the strongest arm
- Kupp burnt DBs consistently and has made great catches. Both Trent Taylor and Ryan Switzer have also performed well and displayed a lot of quickness.
- Forrest Lamp is getting the typical caste treatment for having "short arms". He suffered a high ankle sprain and it done for the week.
- Dan Feeney is the most dominant o-linemen in mobile and is making a name for himself.


I am officially done supporting Hue Jackson in any way after he came out of yesterday's practice praising the black quarterback Dobbs from Tennessee. The new narrative of the draft media is to find the next Dak Prescott and predictably everyone is hitching their wagons to one of the black quarterbacks. To be fair I have read that Peterman has been included in the conversation as a surprise QB at the next level too.

Also three of the black tight ends invited are short and lighter than traditional TEs. My guess is a few of the white TEs from the shrine game leapfrog a couple of these guys who are glorified WRs.

Fago sweeney has said if a team passes on Watson it's like passing on Michael Jordan - that made me laugh a little. My gut feeling is that Watson ends up with the Browns or the Bills.
 

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I am officially done supporting Hue Jackson in any way after he came out of yesterday's practice praising the black quarterback Dobbs from Tennessee. The new narrative of the draft media is to find the next Dak Prescott and predictably everyone is hitching their wagons to one of the black quarterbacks. To be fair I have read that Peterman has been included in the conversation as a surprise QB at the next level too.

Fago sweeney has said if a team passes on Watson it's like passing on Michael Jordan - that made me laugh a little. My gut feeling is that Watson ends up with the Browns or the Bills.

I think Sashi Brown, the racist, incompetent GM of the Browns will be looking for a black quarterback. I'll bet he takes Deshone Kizer with the number 1 pick.
 

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I think Sashi Brown, the racist, incompetent GM of the Browns will be looking for a black quarterback. I'll bet he takes Deshone Kizer with the number 1 pick.

That would be beautiful. Kizer may be even more of an epic bust than RGIII.

One team with two of the greatest black quarterback busts in history on their active roster. They may well accomplish what they couldn't last year and go 0-16.
 
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I thought this article might have a little merit until I read the first paragraph. At least some discussion of coded words came up in it.

The first paragraph is an outright lie. Scouts are some of the worst when it comes to talented white athletes.

"NFL scouts will proudly and candidly tell you they don’t see color in their evaluations. They see talent. Black, white, whatever … it’s their job to get the best players they can."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/must-a...white-wrs-we-asked-two-of-them-011806121.html
 

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I thought this article might have a little merit until I read the first paragraph. At least some discussion of coded words came up in it.

The first paragraph is an outright lie. Scouts are some of the worst when it comes to talented white athletes.

"NFL scouts will proudly and candidly tell you they don’t see color in their evaluations. They see talent. Black, white, whatever … it’s their job to get the best players they can."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/must-a...white-wrs-we-asked-two-of-them-011806121.html

OMG what a total lie. The Left lives in an alternate reality. Just pump a lie out there often enough and to them it becomes real.
 

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OMG what a total lie. The Left lives in an alternate reality. Just pump a lie out there often enough and to them it becomes real.

It's a total lie that's immediately contradicted by the second paragraph. If they're seeing race, then they're seeing color, which of course is shown by how they can only compare White receivers to other White receivers no matter how ludicrous the comparison. A classic example of doublethink:

"NFL scouts will proudly and candidly tell you they don’t see color in their evaluations. They see talent. Black, white, whatever … it’s their job to get the best players they can.

"Which is true. But they also see players’ races, and when it comes down to finding NFL comparisons for prospects — most NFL scouts are asked to do it — it’s hard for some to avoid the obvious white-to-white and black-to-black comparisons. It’s just … natural, right? Even if it’s not always accurate."
 

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Author thinks Cowboys may be interested in Kupp. Of course, he can't finish the article without the requisite digs against the White WR.

"...who excels at running routes and finding ways to get open." <-- That may be true, but perhaps his athletic skill might have something to do with it as well?

"Not a speedster by any stretch of scouting tape, Kupp's 40-yard dash last came in at 4.54 seconds."
<-- If a highly-ranked black WR ran a sub 4.6, this would not have been mentioned.

Other than that, he does make some positive statements about him and his ability...it's just that if it's a White player, it always has to be offset with some perceived negatives.

Also, look at the next story you can go to at that bottom of the article..."The most hated person on every NFL Team", with a picture of Brady and Belichick as the caption.
 
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Author thinks Cowboys may be interested in Kupp. Of course, he can't finish the article without the requisite digs against the White WR.

"...who excels at running routes and finding ways to get open." <-- That may be true, but perhaps his athletic skill might have something to do with it as well?

"Not a speedster by any stretch of scouting tape, Kupp's 40-yard dash last came in at 4.54 seconds."
<-- If a highly-ranked black WR ran a sub 4.6, this would not have been mentioned.

Other than that, he does make some positive statements about him and his ability...it's just that if it's a White player, it always has to be offset with some perceived negatives.

Also, look at the next story you can go to at that bottom of the article..."The most hated person on every NFL Team", with a picture of Brady and Belichick as the caption.

It is funny how Kupp will be downgraded because of his " level of competition " . The last time I checked he had an 11 catch 3 td game against Division 3 Oregon. Joke. :) Oregon a few years ago was playing for the national title and though they have fallen in the last few years they are still a quality opponent that Kupp scorched.
My fanaticism with following C. McCaffrey has led me away form time of spending watching players but whomever said on this sight Kupp might be the next Jerry Rice may be right. Not only can he make the hard catch look easy he is also really good after the catch. There are numerous highlights of him juking the first or 2nd defensive back. Not commonly known among the caste white wr.
 

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Senior Bowl practices wrapped up yesterday. I spent some time scouring twitter, message boards and sites to try to put together a consensus opinion in terms of news on our guys.

Before getting into all of that I have followed the senior bowl since probably 2005 and with social media taking over there are so many faux-draft experts that have made their way to Mobile and spewing their uninformed caste opinions left and right on Twitter. I just found it to be really annoying and the drunk white fandom taken to the next level. It's not bad enough that we have to listen to the paid "experts" but now I have to sift through idiots with half-ass sites dedicated to the draft or their team. It's pathetic how many of these fools have the blind allegiance to their team and get all giddy about mocking blacks to their teams. All of these idiots also do their best to find their favorite negro to hype up and say "this is my guy" and all that stupid ****. I digress...

Also it sounds like Kaaya and Evans are both being viewed as day 3 picks. That is some welcome news if it turns out to be true!

Quarterbacks

It sounds like this year's crop of senior bowl QBs was somewhat underwhelming. Nate Peterman was the hands down undisputed best QB in attendance and probably solidified a 3rd round grade so that is a positive.. Davis Webb had the strongest arm but depending on who you asked opinions of him are all over the place. Twitter and football forums seem intent on having the overrated Tennessee black quarterback with alopecia becoming the next Dak Prescott. Dobbs is almost as ugly as Lamar Jackson. Footballsfuture along with Hue Jackson seem to be really hyping him up as the next artificial black quarterback to take the league by storm (in a draft filled with them) The most annoying thing with these reports is that while everyone sees the same practices they all come away with different opinions - probably in an attempt to be unique in the hopes they say something outlandish in the hopes it becomes truth.

Chad Kelly was in attendance and doing alot of damage control on some of his idiotic decisions, lets hope he has turned a corner.

Running Backs

Sam Rogers is a fullback but should be utilized as a west coast type fullback. Reports on him varied but he might have played himself into late round consideration. I think his 40 time will be telling.

Wide Receivers

Kupp was the toast of Senior Bowl week and he toasted pretty much every black DB he went up against. He has gained consensus positive buzz and could very well be a 2nd round pick. I can't remember Jordy's draft year clear enough in terms of what evaluators thought of him but Kupp looks to be the highest drafted white WR since Jordy back in 2008. Trent Taylor made some ridiculous ankle breaking moves in practices that I saw from users twitter posts. He has also gotten alot of positive attention. Same can be said for Switzer who displayed great short area quickness and agility. Have to say we will see a few more pale faces in the NFL at WR next year which is a welcome thing. Good showings for all of our guys.

Tight End

No white TE was invited for their practices but TEs Drake Saubert and Blake Jarwin will play in the game due to injuries. It probably won'y mean much though as the personnel people put all their stock in the practices.

O-Line

Dan Feeney and Forrest Lamp were the two best oline men. Feeney is a natural guard and was dominant all week. Lamp is a natural left tackle and acquitted himself well against Alabama during the season but of course he has short arms according to experts and the parrot faux-experts on twitter. They all agree that he is going to be an interior oline man or even better move him to center like they try to do every year with white OTs. I think Lamp and Feeney are 1st rounders. McDermott and Biswotonay had uneven weeks but are probably still mid round picks.

D-line

Ryan Glasgow seemed to be solid all week and will probably be a mid rounder.

Linebackers

It sounds like Alex Anzalone was one of the more impressive LBs this week. He played well in all facets of the game - his medical is the big issue but he is gaining buzz. Biegel played very solid all week too and will probably be a 3rd rounder - could only find positive press for him. Boulware was being hammered from all of the experts in the pass coverage drills but he performed well in the actual practices. I have a fear he is going to be another Scooby Wright - talented and productive but he doesn't run a fast 40 so he will drop. Gedeon sounds like a solid LB - all of the positive white stereotypes were thrown at him - take that for what it is worth. The small school kid Connor Harris was up and down all week.

Safety

Nate Gerry was really solid all week. Should be a 3rd rounder.
 

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It is funny how Kupp will be downgraded because of his " level of competition " . The last time I checked he had an 11 catch 3 td game against Division 3 Oregon. Joke. :) Oregon a few years ago was playing for the national title and though they have fallen in the last few years they are still a quality opponent that Kupp scorched.
My fanaticism with following C. McCaffrey has led me away form time of spending watching players but whomever said on this sight Kupp might be the next Jerry Rice may be right. Not only can he make the hard catch look easy he is also really good after the catch. There are numerous highlights of him juking the first or 2nd defensive back. Not commonly known among the caste white wr.

Yea I have seen plenty of caste ******* try to downgrade Kupp saying his is the 6th best WR at the Senior Bowl. So many of the idiots on message boards are afraid of a dominant white WR so they throw up whatever they can to try to tell themselves it just can't be true. It's kind of funny to be honest - their fragile belief system based upon myth is being challenged right before their eyes.
 
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The great value of Switzer is he is obviously one of the best college punt returners of all time. If all bodes well he could become a # 2 like Cole Beasley while returning punts and hopefully ( fingers crossed ) kickoffs as well. I wonder if McCaffrey will be used on kickoffs as well?
 

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Just a few examples of hit pieces on Kupp. I tweeted back at the second guy because he is probably some self-hating white trying to be funny

http://www.phillyvoice.com/senior-bowl-practice-notes-day-3-2017/

http://dynastyfootballfactory.com/cooper-kupp-great-white-hope-or-great-white-hype/


The "Great White Hope" has been a tool of the media to constantly rip down white athletes who rise above their black counterparts for as long as I can remember. It pisses me off to no end and is used to minimize white athleticism as a widespread thing and treat the certain whites who do excel as outliers.
 
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Kupp has moved up into Draftdaddy's 2 position from 6th for senior draft wr's. Switzer, and Taylor are 2 and third for the slot with ( I think is a mistake ) Jordan Westerkamp as the 4th. Westerkamp has the size and speed to play on the outside. To me he is poor man's Julio Jones. Same ability in every aspect except the top end speed though I bet you he can run a 4.55 which is pretty damned fast to begin with.
 

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SENIOR BOWL Update....Don't think there has ever been 3 white WR's in this Game..Kupp, Switzer & Trent Taylor

Florida's Alex Anazalone labeled a "New Age Linebacker" has Burst ; diagnosing the field"! Ben Gedeon a fumble recovery; Vince Beigel broke up a pass & caused fumble

Cooper Kupp Best WR at Senior Bowl according to Mayock...Returned opening kickoff from 9 yards deep in end-zone almost to 30 yard line!

TE OJ Howard just got compared to Greg Olsen....how often does that happen?

Where does 320lb UCLA DT- Eddie Vanderdoes stand from a Caste perspective? His Dad is white & Mom is Poly
 
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One of the better SR Bowls I can remember! By far the most white wrs and lbs ever invited. It seems like majority of our guys have gotten glowing reviews and solidified themselves as draftable prospects. Not perfect but a lot better than I think a lot of us suspected.
 

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It is funny how Kupp will be downgraded because of his " level of competition " . The last time I checked he had an 11 catch 3 td game against Division 3 Oregon. Joke. :) Oregon a few years ago was playing for the national title and though they have fallen in the last few years they are still a quality opponent that Kupp scorched.
My fanaticism with following C. McCaffrey has led me away form time of spending watching players but whomever said on this sight Kupp might be the next Jerry Rice may be right. Not only can he make the hard catch look easy he is also really good after the catch. There are numerous highlights of him juking the first or 2nd defensive back. Not commonly known among the caste white wr.

Here's a positive scouting report about Connor Kupp. He's rated as one of the ten best players in the 2017 draft in this report.

Fanatical Yankee writes some original scouting reports. Often he's right, sometimes he's wrong but he gives his own viewpoint. It's nice to see an alternate viewpoint.

Cooper Kupp Reconnaissance Scouting Report ~ 2017 NFL Draft
 
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SENIOR BOWL Update....Don't think there has ever been 3 white WR's in this Game..Kupp, Switzer & Trent Taylor

Florida's Alex Anazalone labeled a "New Age Linebacker" has Burst ; diagnosing the field"! Ben Gedeon a fumble recovery; Vince Beigel broke up a pass & caused fumble

Cooper Kupp Best WR at Senior Bowl according to Mayock...Returned opening kickoff from 9 yards deep in end-zone almost to 30 yard line!

TE OJ Howard just got compared to Greg Olsen....how often does that happen?

Where does 320lb UCLA DT- Eddie Vanderdoes stand from a Caste perspective? His Dad is white & Mom is Poly
Regarding Eddie Vanderdoes personally i'll root for him, because he is perceived as white. I mean with his white guy mop top I think he takes more from his dad.
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SENIOR BOWL Update....Don't think there has ever been 3 white WR's in this Game..Kupp, Switzer & Trent Taylor

Florida's Alex Anazalone labeled a "New Age Linebacker" has Burst ; diagnosing the field"! Ben Gedeon a fumble recovery; Vince Beigel broke up a pass & caused fumble

Cooper Kupp Best WR at Senior Bowl according to Mayock...Returned opening kickoff from 9 yards deep in end-zone almost to 30 yard line!

TE OJ Howard just got compared to Greg Olsen....how often does that happen?

Where does 320lb UCLA DT- Eddie Vanderdoes stand from a Caste perspective? His Dad is white & Mom is Poly

Comparing a black prospect to an elite white talent is a fairly new trend. I imagine it is to offset the criticism that white players only are compared to white players and blacks to blacks. So to try to deflect the criticism they have started comparing blacks to the great white players. I have yet to hear white players be compared to good black players yet. Just another way the caste system adjusts itself as it becomes more exposed.
 

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Comparing a black prospect to an elite white talent is a fairly new trend. I imagine it is to offset the criticism that white players only are compared to white players and blacks to blacks. So to try to deflect the criticism they have started comparing blacks to the great white players. I have yet to hear white players be compared to good black players yet. Just another way the caste system adjusts itself as it becomes more exposed.

Yes, the FNM always advances their anti-white agenda, in every article, every broadcast.
As a matter of policy the FNM always looks for ways to demean white people, especially white men.
 

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Didn't watch the game but saw Davis Webb was named the MVP. Would love to see him end up in San Diego as a potential successor to Rivers.

Awesome to see Webb and Peterman with good performances this week. As we predicted our cream would rise to the top at QB position. I saw Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi compare Peterman to Kirk Cousins who he was around quite a bit at MSU!

As a bonus Both Dobbs and Pipkin threw interceptions yesterday!!
 
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