2014 Philadelphia Eagles
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The Eagles have been a very pleasant surprise the past two seasons, especially with the NFL otherwise obviously retrenching this season and the large college football programs becoming noticeably blacker the past few years with no opposition or even acknowledgement of the situation except at Caste Football.
about the jewish owners, you think money would be the biggest priority to some of these jewish owners, you know the stereotypical "money hungry" if they had more Whites they would have more fans, not just us. White fans buy the most stuff.
Sure many dwfs appear to viciously hate White players, but that is just what they see on tv every week. They actually think they are intelligent for parroting what they see run on television multiple times a day. Look how quickly they went to dismissing off the field behavior of certain affletes to turning against them. Then they debate these things as if they actually have a real opinion. They have been manipulated so much they don't even realize that someone else is pulling the strings. It all seems like one big joke to me.
I think alot of fans secretly long for more White players whether they realize it or not.
Look at how many people rooted for Hillis, not just during his breakout season, but his breakout 5 game stretch for Denver. Sure he had some haters but alot of people loved him, so they made sure to smear his name as much as possible, with 3 or 4 articles every other day about what he was doing, bringing up old quotes like "i want to join the cia" when he was missing practice, to make it seem like he wasn't practicing because he was training for the cia (which I have heard from some dwfs)
to stuff back in Denver that he was sleeping with McDaniels wife which was supposedly the reason why he didnt get carries that second year (its all bull, he didnt get carries because of his skin color).
Of course he got traded to a team with an up and coming back, who had already did well, but it wasn't clear if he could handle a full workload, but they gave it to him anyway. Now the casual fan would feel stupid for questioning why Hillis doesnt get carries even though he is doing much better than anyone else on the team.
that went into a long thing about Hillis, maybe this is more appropriate for that thread but it was originally about owners making money. If they just gave a few more Whites a chance they would be getting more interest, but obviously there is a bigger agenda at stake.
Sure many dwfs appear to viciously hate White players, but that is just what they see on tv every week. They actually think they are intelligent for parroting what they see run on television multiple times a day. Look how quickly they went to dismissing off the field behavior of certain affletes to turning against them. Then they debate these things as if they actually have a real opinion. They have been manipulated so much they don't even realize that someone else is pulling the strings. It all seems like one big joke to me.
I think alot of fans secretly long for more White players whether they realize it or not.
Look at how many people rooted for Hillis, not just during his breakout season, but his breakout 5 game stretch for Denver. Sure he had some haters but alot of people loved him, so they made sure to smear his name as much as possible, with 3 or 4 articles every other day about what he was doing, bringing up old quotes like "i want to join the cia" when he was missing practice, to make it seem like he wasn't practicing because he was training for the cia (which I have heard from some dwfs)
to stuff back in Denver that he was sleeping with McDaniels wife which was supposedly the reason why he didnt get carries that second year (its all bull, he didnt get carries because of his skin color).
Of course he got traded to a team with an up and coming back, who had already did well, but it wasn't clear if he could handle a full workload, but they gave it to him anyway. Now the casual fan would feel stupid for questioning why Hillis doesnt get carries even though he is doing much better than anyone else on the team.
that went into a long thing about Hillis, maybe this is more appropriate for that thread but it was originally about owners making money. If they just gave a few more Whites a chance they would be getting more interest, but obviously there is a bigger agenda at stake.
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FootballDad
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Practice squad safety Jordan Kovacs was just signed away from the Eagles by the Miami Dolphins. It would be nice if he gets a chance to see the field.
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Good luck to Jordan. Hopefully Jordan Tripp gets healthy soon and they are both end up getting some playing time.
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Prosinski was a pretty decent starter in Jacksonville, but made a few mistakes and they pulled the plug on his development... same old story with white dbs, yet bums like Major Wright, James Ihedibo, Raheem Moore, and Patrick Chung, make the same dumb mistakes week in and week out, and continue to litter starting lineups.
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Well said upside! Happy to see Prosinski get picked up by the Eagles nonetheless!. I am a Packer fan but I wouldn't mind this Eagle team led by Chip Kelly to win it all. Such a pleasant surprise seeing Kelly play so many white guys. He had a decent track record of playing white guys at Oregon but I don't think any of us foresaw this!
he started a total of 9 games, but did well in nickel and dime packages apparently he needs to work on his tackling, he liked to go at people with his head, and he got hurdled twice and a few others that tried to, but apparently that counts to them, now jacksonville fans called him "hurdled" or something. Like their precious affletes don't have similar problems. I am starting to really dislike jacksonville fans crapping all over Gerhart as well, like Denard didn't struggle those same games suggesting he move to fullback now.
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Lol @Jaguar fans.. Cmon now.. They haven't had a decent team since Brunnell was their QB. Pretty sorry organization.
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Mike Faggio over at PFT is trying to get the movement started on attacking Foles and pushing the Eagles towards getting a black quarterback (Mariota) at this point: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/05/report-eagles-had-soured-on-foles-before-his-injury/
All along the "experts" have been calling for an "athletic" QB to be put into Kelly's system. I hope Kelly does not agree as Foles has been a pretty good QB so far and is getting a bum wrap from the media.
All along the "experts" have been calling for an "athletic" QB to be put into Kelly's system. I hope Kelly does not agree as Foles has been a pretty good QB so far and is getting a bum wrap from the media.
ridiculous, Foles is only in his 2nd year starting and hasn't done poorly. I think Kelly is wise enough to know the read option isn't going to work long term in the NFL, otherwise he would've pushed hard for Dixon or some other "athletic" black quarterback.
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If they feel that their qb position is the quarterback equivalent of Denver when they had various tailbacks rush for 1000 yards why would they want to do a Washington and trade up to the top of the draft board? Mariotta is going near the top of the draft and Eagles should make the playoffs unless they implode under Sanchez.
I've said all along that Matt Barkley is a better quarterback than Foles, even when Foles was putting up those amazing stats last year. Barkley is extremely smart and makes very fast decisions, which is the key to Kelly's offense, not "affleticism."
Matt was expected to be the overall first pick of the draft at one point; his fall from grace his senior season at USC and then the NFL draft and his rookie season with the Eagles was way over the top. Sanchez has experience so he should be the starter for now, but Barkley should be given a fair opportunity to be the long-term answer at QB.
Matt was expected to be the overall first pick of the draft at one point; his fall from grace his senior season at USC and then the NFL draft and his rookie season with the Eagles was way over the top. Sanchez has experience so he should be the starter for now, but Barkley should be given a fair opportunity to be the long-term answer at QB.
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I was high on both Barkley and Foles when they came out in their respective drafts.
Foles was drafted in the late third in 2012 and Barkley in the high fourth in 2013, so about the same range. They were both underdrafted.
I think both are promising young players with good futures ahead of them. The Eagles did well in drafting these two men.
Foles was drafted in the late third in 2012 and Barkley in the high fourth in 2013, so about the same range. They were both underdrafted.
I think both are promising young players with good futures ahead of them. The Eagles did well in drafting these two men.
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After the last couple of weeks, I'd say Ryan Tannehill has looked like the best young white QB not named Andrew Luck. Tannehill has really hit his stride, and though Austin Davis has stumbled recently, he too is worth keeping an eye on.
The problem with that is, when has the caste system ever made any sense? Descisions tend to fly in the face of logic and common sense. You think Dwfs would wake up.
i think one thing is certain, the qb in the system needs to be able to pass more than anything. Sanchez, like Foles, can make all of the nfl throws. Not very familiar with Sanchez but Foles does have a strong arm. In fact not sure why he didnt go higher, his main flaw was perceived lack of mobility. When has that stopped any of the greats? There it goes again with caste system not making sense.
not sure of Mariota's ability I haven't really watched him, but usually when a guy has that kind of hype they disappoint. The positives are all about his running ability, they say the typical "looks like he was designed in a video game"
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Couldnt agree more. Foles going down sucks. Indeed some of the worst news of the year.
Id rather see Barkley in there than Sanchez, but Foles was outstanding. After a year like he had last year you gotta ride that horse. He hasnt looked quite as good this season, but he hasnt been bad either. There is no reason other than Foles is White for the media to even question his status as a starter.
Zach Ertz was that rare White non-quarterback offensive player who was widely predicted to have a breakout season and become a star in 2014. However he's been grossly under-utilized so far, to the point that he played just 24 of the team's 83 offensive snaps last Sunday.
And Travis Kelce is far and away the Chiefs' best big play receiving option, yet he plays only about half of his team's snaps. It's hardly surprising that there's been so little to cheer about on offense this season so far outside of quarterback when potential superstars are thwarted the way Ertz and Kelce have been.
And Travis Kelce is far and away the Chiefs' best big play receiving option, yet he plays only about half of his team's snaps. It's hardly surprising that there's been so little to cheer about on offense this season so far outside of quarterback when potential superstars are thwarted the way Ertz and Kelce have been.
There are a lot of good young White QBs besides Luck and Foles -- Ryan, Flacco, Dalton, Stafford, Bortles, Carr, Tannehill, Davis and Mettenberger, hopefully soon Mallett and Manziel. Throw in the great veterans and this remains a golden age for White QBs of all ages. And it's not that I don't think Foles is good, it's that Barkley has the tools to be great and I'd like to see him get an opportunity, whether in Philly or elsewhere.
I'm going to go against the grain and look at the Foles injury as a potential positive. Foles has targeted Maclin and Jordan Matthews all year at the expense of his White targets, Cooper, Ertz, Celek, Maehl, and James Casey. Sanchez can't do any worse in targeting.
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I agree. Maclin has been undeniably good this season, and he’s therefore been heavily targeted by Foles.
After utilizing Cooper with great efficiency last season, he’s barely been targeted by Foles in 2014. He’s only managed 31 catches, 331 yards, 1 TD. Some of that is Riley’s fault, as he had some bad drops in the first few weeks.
Budding superstar TE, Zach Ertz, has only managed 25 catches, 358 yards, 2 TD’s.
TE Brent Celek, once a perennial 800-900 yard receiver, is never targeted: 14 catches, 90 yards.
WR Jeff Maehl and TE James Casey barely play on offense.
I agree with Don that Matt Barkley seems to have “it” (he’s a very fiery and intense competitor, much like Tom Brady) and I wish he was playing instead of Sanchez. The “best case scenario” is that as the season winds down, Sanchez plays poorly and Barkley is inserted before Philly loses too many games.
It’s hard to complain about this team…they have 10-11 white starters, and have the highest number of white players on their roster (26, 27 if you count Sanchez) of any team in 20+ years. LB Casey Matthews will now give them a second white defensive starter, and DL Bair and Allen have been rotational players in the past few weeks. They are one injury away from starting. Same situation at the two safety positions, where both back-ups are now white (Maragos and Prosinkski).
Despite their record-setting whiteness, Philly’s offense isn’t as exciting to watch as New England’s, or even Green Bay’s when Jordy Nelson is dominating. As always, I’ll be rooting for an Eagles-Patriots or a Packers-Patriots Superbowl.
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Ertz' situation in Philly is a head-scratcher, but Kelce in Kansas City is not surprising. KC is a run-first offense with Charles and Davis, which means that Anthony Fasano (also white) is going to get more snaps as he is a much better run blocker than Kelce, and Fasano is not a half-bad receiving option, either. Of course, Kelce is on another level entirely as a receiver, but the Chiefs only have him in when it is an obvious passing situation, which makes his snap count low. As he becomes a more accomplished blocker, they can have him in the game more often, and he can be the beneficiary of the play-option pass plays that the Chiefs run when it's not an obvious passing down.