2014 NFL Draft

Lol my bad Lew. I think UWs Beau Allen will be a mid round selection. He's huge 6'3 325 nose tackle with some good feet. They have a couple of other guys at DE and OLB that might get some looks. Muldoon,Hemer,and Kelly.
 
I went to the ESPN home page and they had an insider feature from Kiper/McShay - 2014 QB Class - Best Ever? Clicked the link and the three QBs were Bridgewater, Mariota and Hundley. They are pushing this agenda hard.
 
Leonardfan said:
I went to the ESPN home page and they had an insider feature from Kiper/McShay - 2014 QB Class - Best Ever? Clicked the link and the three QBs were Bridgewater, Mariota and Hundley. They are pushing this agenda hard.
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Remember when Geno Smith was supposed to light up the NFL? They are just throwing any non white qb up there with good numbers to see if any stick. Its hard to believe that not one single Leach coached qb could have had success in the league, they always put up big numbers, but were called "system" qbs and never given a real shot. Dana Holgerson from Leach's coaching tree goes to another school runs the same thing with a black qb and he is the second coming, hasn't worked out well so far.
 
Todd McGay has way too much influence
 
dwid said:
Remember when Geno Smith was supposed to light up the NFL? They are just throwing any non white qb up there with good numbers to see if any stick. Its hard to believe that not one single Leach coached qb could have had success in the league, they always put up big numbers, but were called "system" qbs and never given a real shot. Dana Holgerson from Leach's coaching tree goes to another school runs the same thing with a black qb and he is the second coming, hasn't worked out well so far.
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I totally agree. Black Qbs are being given a longer leash and plethora of excuses. Barkley and Foles are already being written off. No one is evening mentioning the fact that Glennon has been the best rookie QB to date.
 
Vanilla_Sky said:
Don't forget Max Bullough, Chris Borland, and Shayne Skov (white father, not sure about mom; passes helmet test) who should go early as some of the top ILBs selected. Morgan Bresslin and Brad Daly will also get drafted. DEs Trent Murphy, Ben Gardner, Taylor Hart and Trevor Reilly will also get early looks. Not much DB wise, but in addition to Sunseri, Ty Zimmerman of K State will get drafted. Tanner Miller of Iowa might get a 6-7th round selection.

For WRs, Abbrederis and Campanaro should get drafted. Alex Neutz and Alex Amidon will hopefully make enough noise for later selections.
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I pretty sure Skov is part eggplant. I think Sunseri will probably return for his senior year. Unlike black players, he will have to re-prove himself.
 
Closer look at first team All-Big 12 safety Ty Zimmerman, who arrived at Kansas State as a quarterback.
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Definition of a ball hawk
 
geno smith, bridgewater, hundley

Ok, I agree guys. I laughed and even told my dad it was a joke that Geno Smith was even drafted before the fourth round. He's terrible, and he'll continue to prove me and all of you right. It's really great in a way to laugh at that situation. I think Bridgewater isn't much either, and Hundley is just whatever. Manziel should be the number one draft pick in my opinion. He's going to make the other qb's coming in, except maybe Mariota and McCarron look like a joke. That's my opinion, but I really don't get why these people push black players so much.

Isn't it odd that anytime a white player makes it on the field in the NFL he lights it up? Makes me wonder why these guys are so crazy for an agenda in the first place.

Also, it's nice to see manziel do everything the agenda pushers wish that a black qb could do. :) If he plays 75 percent as good in the nfl they'll call him the next steve young, and I'll just laugh and say, "nope, he's johnny manziel."
 
PowerFtbll said:
Jared Abbrederis, Wide Receiver- This kid is tearing it up for Wisconsin. He has over 700 yards receiving and 5 TDs this year. I've watched him several times, and i'm willing to bet any of you who have watched him have seen just how dominant he is. Against a first round corner from Ohio State, he had over 200 yards. I do think it's rather odd that he's only projected as a third round pick right now though. That may change if he keeps playing this well. No matter how much the NFL has an agenda, I just can't believe that they won't draft a guy in the first round if he dominates like this guy is for a good team all year.

I can't think of anyone else who hasn't been mentioned yet, but I'm gonna keep my eyes and ears open and bring you guys some more prospects when I find some.
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Check out CBS Sports Profile of Jared, typical caste BS: Overview
The team-leader in receiving yards the past two seasons, Abbrederis is a former walk-on who has been extremely productive since he arrived in Madison.

Overall, he won't appeal to every NFL team due to his average size, speed and overall athleticism, but Abbrederis is a balanced pass-catcher with gliding speed who has been very productive. He will leave the Badgers as one of the most productive receivers in school history and, just like when he was forced to walk on, Abbrederis will likely be undervalued as a pro prospect.
Abbrederis doesn't scream NFL prospect, but he is extremely detailed and will make a NFL team look smart for drafting him in May. (10/6/13)


Analysis
Strengths: Sneaky quickness to get behind the secondary. He does a nice job selling routes and is able to create separation with his footwork, most notably a stutter-and-go double move that he uses to burst past corner. Sets up his moves and understands how to deceive defensive backs. Abbrederis displays excellent field savvy, tracks the ball very well and makes the proper adjustments to extend and pluck with his quick, soft hands. He has excellent field awareness and always appears to know where he is on the field.

Weaknesses: Only an average athlete with ordinary straight-line speed. Lacks ideal size. Very little muscle definition.
--Dane Brugler
 
Toby Hillis said:
Check out CBS Sports Profile of Jared, typical caste BS: Overview
The team-leader in receiving yards the past two seasons, Abbrederis is a former walk-on who has been extremely productive since he arrived in Madison.

Overall, he won't appeal to every NFL team due to his average size, speed and overall athleticism, but Abbrederis is a balanced pass-catcher with gliding speed who has been very productive. He will leave the Badgers as one of the most productive receivers in school history and, just like when he was forced to walk on, Abbrederis will likely be undervalued as a pro prospect.
Abbrederis doesn't scream NFL prospect, but he is extremely detailed and will make a NFL team look smart for drafting him in May. (10/6/13)


Analysis
Strengths: Sneaky quickness to get behind the secondary. He does a nice job selling routes and is able to create separation with his footwork, most notably a stutter-and-go double move that he uses to burst past corner. Sets up his moves and understands how to deceive defensive backs. Abbrederis displays excellent field savvy, tracks the ball very well and makes the proper adjustments to extend and pluck with his quick, soft hands. He has excellent field awareness and always appears to know where he is on the field.

Weaknesses: Only an average athlete with ordinary straight-line speed. Lacks ideal size. Very little muscle definition.
--Dane Brugler
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So, apparently Abbrederis has speed that is average and gliding (whatever that means.) He has "ordinary" straight line speed (whatever that means.)

He has "sneaky" quickness (whatever that is.)

Reading this stuff objectively it sounds ridiculous.
 
The latest NFL mock draft on CBS shows eight whites in the first round including Manziel at 5 to the Texans and Mettenberger at 15 to the Cardinals.

I wonder if we will see ten or more this year in the first round for white players, sorry if the question has been asked before on here but does anyone know when the last time there were ten or more white players selected in the first round?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang
 
Toby Hillis said:
Very little muscle definition.
--Dane Brugler
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What in the world does "muscle definition" have to do with anything (other than homosexual fantasies)? A spray-on tan one day before the combine would suddenly give him all kinds of "muscle definition", but he would still be the same player. Dane Brugler is obviously a closet case.
 
Awake in America said:
What in the world does "muscle definition" have to do with anything (other than homosexual fantasies)? A spray-on tan one day before the combine would suddenly give him all kinds of "muscle definition", but he would still be the same player. Dane Brugler is obviously a closet case.
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clearly dane loves the knee grow afleets and their charcoal pigmentation which refines their muscle definition.
 
Lol well having done two mins research found out there were ten in 2012 so answered my own question. So 55 whites from 254 draft picks last year I reckon we should see close to 70 this year with the solid white qb class and i've seen alot of white defensive players going high in mock drafts like walterfootball, where Ben Gardner, Henry Anderson, Trent Murphy and Taylor Hart all go in round 2.

Muscle definition! How does muscle definition affect your ability to catch a ball and play receiver, they will say anything to knock a player. Why don't they mention stats in these previews, is it because white player stats are often better so we just wont mention it! :icon_wink:

Just talk about upside instead and how straight line speed specifically the forty time is so important even tho you hardly ever run flat out for that length without changing direction etc. Surely route running and safe hands are the most important, whats the point in running 40 yards quickly and dropping the ball like Aaron Dobson for example!
 
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D linemen Brent Urban and Trevor Reilly have pro potential as does Morgan Breslin.

KSL.com Sports: [COLOR=#0000]Trevor Reilly and Kyle Van Noy[/COLOR], does it matter who is better?

University of Virginia defensive tackle Brent Urban has been invited to the Senior Bowl.

U.S.C. linebacker/defensive end and N.F.L. prospect Morgan Breslin is out indefinitely due to hip injury.

Oregon-Stanford big stage for several prospects, including rising defensive ends Josh Mauro [COLOR=#0000]and[/COLOR] Taylor Hart.
 
Seems Derek Carr could be one to watch he is flying up draft boards. Going to Cleveland in round 1 in Walter football's latest mock. Although walterfootball can be a bit bias against white players they are not as bad as many so find them quite a good read for draft info. Although they have Manziel going to Eagles in round one which would mean Foles not getting his deserved chance!!
 
woody39 said:
Seems Derek Carr could be one to watch he is flying up draft boards. Going to Cleveland in round 1 in Walter football's latest mock. Although walterfootball can be a bit bias against white players they are not as bad as many so find them quite a good read for draft info. Although they have Manziel going to Eagles in round one which would mean Foles not getting his deserved chance!!
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Manziel would be an excellent fit for Kelly's offense but it would be a lateral movement in terms of production. Foles has proven that he is the best quarterback for their system even if he isn't the dual threat that Manziel is. I would hope for Manziel to end up on a team like the Bills who are fairly white friendly outside of their starting quarterback.
 
I'm not really worried about Foles. He's shown everyone that he's talented. A lot of fans and "sports writers" might not see it, but smart coaches do. Foles' contract is up after next season I think. If the Eagles draft someone to be their starting QB rather than moving forward with Foles, they'll be making a mistake. But that will be their loss. Foles will be able to get a contract with a different team. I'd love to see him be the entrenched starter for Philly for years to come, so Eagles fans develop a taste for how great it is to have your team led by smart, consistent, accurate pocket passers. But even if that doesn't happen I think he'll be somebody else's starter, somewhere. And Philly can look at him the way San Diego looks at Drew Brees or the 49ers look at Alex Smith, kicking themselves that he's gone.
 
The spread option has been pretty much figured out at the pro level. Two black quarterbacks - Mariota and Hundley both struggled mightily against the very stout Stanford defense.

It will be interesting to see what the fallout is - if any come draft time. It looks like a ton of very good white QBs will be coming out this season.

Mettenberger is such an improved player with all the tools needed at the next level. He has a rocket for an arm - I enjoy watching him play whenever I can. He has really developed under Cam Cameron - former NFL coach and offensive coordinator.

Murray has proven this year he is able to win the big game on his way to becoming the most prolific passer in SEC history.

Manziel is a rare talent, the way he creates offense is amazing and unprecedented. He is a Fran Tarkenton/Flutie like player. I think he is a top 5 pick.

Carr is a rising talent like the posters above me have said. He has a lighting quick release and rocket arm putting up prolific stats. He is another QB that is alot of fun to watch, his release is so quick. I recommend everyone catch a Fresno state game this year.

McCarron is getting no respect but I think can develop into a good player. He shows up in big games. Just needs to build his arm strength IMO.
 
It looks like the season playing out, badly for the most part, for most of the black quarterback class, there is a marked shift in the top prospects for the QB position. Take a look at the latest first-round mock from CBS Sports/NFL Draftscout.

Bridgewater and Mariota are still at the top of the board (they are both going to be mild-to-colossal busts), but the rest of round one is occupied by honkey cracka QB's. A major departure from early-season afflete-happy drafts. Of course one of the knucklehead "experts" has Tajh Boyd going to the Chiefs in the late first round, which is a total joke. ALL of the Chiefs QBs on the roster are better than him. Boyd will be lucky to get off the board before the 3rd-4th round.
 
I'd love to see the Patriots draft McCarron if he falls into the mid rounds, he's very similar to Brady in build. I'm getting very tired of QBs black or white getting thrown onto the field in their first season. I think learning from a veteran for a year or two would do a lot of these QBs some good.
 
davidholly said:
I think learning from a veteran for a year or two would do a lot of these QBs some good.
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This has been good policy over the years and many great QBs have done a year or more as understudy and then thrived. What I can't think of is ANY black QBs who have benefitted from this. I'm not sure that "studying hard" under a master helps them at all. With all of this talk about black quarterbacks "upside", I'm not sure there is any. The player they are when they come out of college is pretty much the player that they stay, to a large degree. I could be wrong, and there are always exceptions, but I can't think of any off of the top of my head.
 
There are two white quarterbacks that will probably be drafted in the 1st round next year. They are Derek Carr and Johnny Manziel. In my view they're the two best quarterbacks in the draft.

Zach Mettenberger might also be drafted in the 1st round.
 
As it stands with the college football season just about over here are my projections for white QBs and where they will get drafted:

1. Johnny Manziel - 1st rd
2. Derek Carr - 1st rd
3. Zach Mettenberger - 1st rd
4. A.J. McCarron - 2nd rd
5. Jimmy Garrapolo 3rd rd
6. David Fales 4th rd
7. Aaron Murray 4th rd - due to injuries

Blake Bortles could very well be a top 10 pick if he declares.
 
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