2013 NFL Season Week 2

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but logically it would make more sense to line up Edelman on the outside and send him deep a few times, they won't even be expecting it, they might be all over a screen depending on how they execute it, but I guess it wouldn't hurt the run a few screens. Geno with another pick but still has a shot at winning this game.

Did they just run a screen with Edelman? i looked up and it looked like one, and he was tackled by several defenders close to the los.

I want to see a bomb to Edelman for two reasons, to help the Pats score, and to help his ypc, he has 13 catches averaging 6 ypc, thats just very low

You have more football knowledge then me but I think you are wrong on this one. Edelman is returning punts, and doing it well, you don't put a guy without evasiveness returning punts. I think he played the welker (slot) extremely well. That stuff about YAC doesn't apply to a guy that catches balls underneath the linebackers. Plus he was well guarded as they knew that was a Patriot strategy.

When you consider how important the slot guy is to the Patriot offense I think you have to put your best guy there and that was Edelman.

This game was noteworthy in that the hands down best non-QB on the field was a White man. He was returning punts, moving the chains, no other player had the "star" power that he did. In a way the game revolved around him. I do agree that he should have been targeted deep. He was the only weapon the Pats had so they should have sent him deep a few times. I did notice one deep pass to him (badly overthrown) but there should have been more.
 

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We can say all we want about how bad Smiff looked; the reality is his performance will be considered at least decent by all the usual suspects. And the fact remains that this putrid Jets team, which should by all rights be blown out nearly every week, is only one broken coverage away from being 2-0.

Other than Rotoworld's rather shocking take, I've heard nothing but positive things about Smiff on ESPN. As a black quarterback, he's bursting with "potential" and "poise." Unlike white QBs, he can't be blamed for those balls his Affirmative Action receivers drop. Actually, we should probably be thankful for black quarterbacks in one respect; without them, the incredible number of dropped passes might never be mentioned by the "journalists" and DWFs.

The Patriots are no fun to watch at all now. Thompkins and Dobson make Lloyd and Ocho Cinco look good by comparison. The Jets' receivers are even worse, if such a thing is possible. Meanwhile, a WR who is more talented than 90% of the starters in this corrupt league, Austin Collie, is unemployed. As is Connor Barwin, Sam McGufie, Andy Tanner and so many others.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Coby Fleener this week. Tubby afflete Dwayne Allen continues to inexplicably start over him, and always draws more targets than Fleener, despite the fact Fleener's college QB is throwing the ball, and Fleener's college coordinator is calling the plays. Fleener is far more capable and athletic than Julius Thomas, for instance, but even with a seemingly perfect situation, will he get the same kind of opportunities?
 

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Bigunreal,

I do understand your frustration regarding black quarterbacks. Obviously with Smiff sucking last night the talking heads at BSPN are in total defense mode engaging in all terms of caste speak trying to defend the bum.

At this point it has become more fun watching these black quarterbacks fail - throw INTs, make dumb decisions and just see how blatantly obvious the media is with trying to spin it. I think more and more people are waking up to this in the sports world. Just look at the comments in online articles when it comes to blacks committing violent crimes - more and more people are catching onto it. I think sports are catching up to greater society.

Sure there are a ton of moronic DWFs but you know what - they are idiots. Take solace in the fact that their is a place you can come and voice your frustrations with the charade that is the NFL. Honestly, besides dropping some comments on a couple other sites to plant the seeds of the caste system I only interact and post on this forum. 95% of my sports conversation consists of coming here and being able to speak with a like minded group of individuals who see through the caste system both in sports and greater society.

Also, I would recommend just tuning out and turning off BSPN and NFLNetwork. They are not going to do anything or say anything to challenge the status quo they helped create. Nothing on those channels even resembles journalism, they are just a bunch of parrots taught to repeat what their masters tell them to. The caste system is only going to be exposed by people like us who plant the seed and get people to think for themselves.

Please do not take this as an attack because I do get your frustration and I share it with you.
 
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I've got a feeling coach Belichik and Brady will find at least one more White receiver for Brady to throw to, other than Amandola and Gronkowski who can't be depended on to stay healthy. He's not going to sit there and watch his season go down the drain just for political correctness. He knows full well the black guys aren't dependable enough to catch the ball like White guys.

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I googled black quarterbacks today and found multiple articles proclaiming this the golden age of black quarterbacks. Several articles mentioned that a record 9 black quarterbacks started on opening day in the league. The articles also mentioned how most of the top quarterback prospects in college are black. One article made a bold prediction that by 2015 half the starting qb's in the league will be black. If that's the case I am done with the NFL. Fantasy football and all.

Ive been hearing that since the early 90s. Randell Cunningham was the first guy I heard the talking heads refer to as "the future of the QB position".
 

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You have more football knowledge then me but I think you are wrong on this one. Edelman is returning punts, and doing it well, you don't put a guy without evasiveness returning punts. I think he played the welker (slot) extremely well. That stuff about YAC doesn't apply to a guy that catches balls underneath the linebackers. Plus he was well guarded as they knew that was a Patriot strategy.

When you consider how important the slot guy is to the Patriot offense I think you have to put your best guy there and that was Edelman.

This game was noteworthy in that the hands down best non-QB on the field was a White man. He was returning punts, moving the chains, no other player had the "star" power that he did. In a way the game revolved around him. I do agree that he should have been targeted deep. He was the only weapon the Pats had so they should have sent him deep a few times. I did notice one deep pass to him (badly overthrown) but there should have been more.
I agree it doesn't make sense that a guy that does so well returning punts can't yac, I mentioned it before in this thread. Welker saw the same coverages (they threw every combination at him in his career, sometimes he was the only threat) and was the target of double teams often and didn't have a problem, but maybe it has to do with awareness, Welker just seemed to have this ability to know where all the defenders would be and exactly where to cut to get yards after the catch, no matter who was covering him. Amendola also great at returning struggled to get yac in St. Louis, but if you go back and watch the games it was usually because the ball was thrown poorly, so adjusting for the ball, its going to be hard to get yac like that. When Amendola has had passes on target he hasn't had a problem. So maybe it is awareness and has to do with the fact that both he and Welker played the slot at Tech and just have way more experience, while Edelman was a former qb. I thought he played average in the slot for Welker his first season, averaging under 10 ypc. But I agree about the deep stuff. I think the little short routes would set up the deep bomb, more than several times a game and he has the speed to do it where Welker was best between 0 and 20 to 30 yards. Amendola is also better at stretching the field but I wouldn't say as good as Edelman.
 

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I watched all of last nights game but haven't had the time to comment til now. Sloppier game than week 1 Jets vs Bucs, and didn't think that was possible. I've never seen many dropped passes by affletic receivers in my life and that was before the 2nd half rain came. It got so bad that it even rubbed off on White receiver Ryan Spadola, dropping his only target. I'm sure Rexy-boy will punish him accordingly for that mistake. And how about the comical looking, Clyde Gates? He might take the title of worst hands in the NFL, from his teammate Stephen Hill ironically, after his putrid display. He was so bad even weenieworld had to rip him.

Clyde Gates caught two passes for 42 yards in New York's Week 2 loss to the Patriots.

Forced into heavy snaps — and eight targets — with Jeremy Kerley (concussion) sidelined, Gates turned in a brutal, drop-filled performance. It was the kind of night that makes you question (again) why he's still on an NFL roster. Gates won't make it through the year in New York if he continues to play like he did Thursday.

But yet those dang receivers like Collie, Tanner, Vernon and Shipley, who actually catch the ball are unemployed. They need to really work on their wiggle or in Vernon's case re-braid his hair and don some blackface.

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On the positive side, Geno tha Stiff stunk. His last 2 interceptions were especially terrible. Julian Edelman was the most dynamic player on the field. Steve Gregory was flying all over the field making plays as well as Rob Ninkovich. Also, DT Joe Vellano looked more than capable as a starter. Hopefully he can become one in the near future. And most importantly, the Pats are 2-0. The wins were as ugly as Jet's sumo Vlad Ducasse but they still count. :biggrin:

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Last night’s uninteresting, anticlimactic, amateurish “game” was, by far, the most inferior compilation of offensive “talent” New England has put on the field in the Brady-Belichick era. This team is simply rancid without Welker, Woodhead, and Gronkowski. This club lost a particularly special athlete in Welker, whose absence could, before long, prove that “The Patriot System” was really a product of him.

Kraft and Belichick must already regret allowing Wes, the annual team MVP for six seasons, to sign elsewhere for the difference of $2 million per season. Instead, they spent his salary (plus several additional million) on Danny Amendola, the explosive-when-healthy “White Bob Sanders” whose groin injury is apparently so severe that he could be out until Week #7-8. This guy exists merely to disappoint.

As others mentioned, Julian Edelman was the best player on the field last night, but the lack of creativity in play-calling was highly noticeable. His only lengthy catch, a screen pass, was negated by a suspect holding call. His numbers through two games aren’t bad (20 catches, 157 yards, 2 TDs), but let’s hope that he can survive the season grinding out small gains on sterile play-calling, getting double-teamed constantly, returning punts, and taking huge shots across the middle (while Thompkins and Dobson avoid contact and drop passes on the outside). Hopefully Sudfeld and Gronkowski can return from injury for the next game and “whiten up” this offense. I wish the best for Amendola, but his endless supply of frailty is wearing thin, essentially marring what could have been one of the whitest offensive squads in decades...

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I did crack a smile during this Digital Sleeping Pill for a brief moment…when Legarette “Sucker Punch” Blount returned a kickoff. Never before has such turtle-like clumsiness been permitted to return kicks, yet there aren’t currently any whites returning kicks in the entire league. Is Leon Washington that washed-up that he lost the job to the least explosive Negro to ever dawn the red, blue, and silver?

New England’s defense is only weeks away from full exposure by better opposition. Rob Ninkovich, Alfonso Dennard, Chandler Jones (sometimes), Vince Wilfork, and Steve Gregory are quality defenders, but Donta Hightower and Brandon Spikes simply aren’t fast enough to play LB in the NFL (yet Dane Fletcher didn’t play a snap last night), Jerod Mayo amasses plenty of tackles but never a “big play,” and Devin McCourty is a categorical failure of a CB and safety.

On the bright side, New England brought back fullback, James Develin, and currently has 24 whites on their active roster.
 
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Bigunreal and Leonardfan,

I agree with both of your points. Yes, it won't matter how bad someone like Smiff plays, the usual suspects will simply go into defensive mode and turn any negatives into positives. It's also true that the best bet is to shut out garbage like ESPN and NFLN for the most part, however, we should tune in from time to time to hear what the enemy is saying.

For instance, I was watching the post-game show last night, and Steve Mariucci proclaimed that despite his turnovers, Smiff "showed me some things and I like him as a quarterback in this league". No legitimate, self-respecting football analyst can possibly reach that conclusion after Smiff's awful performance last night. But when you are surrounded by the shuck and jive crew of anti-white racists Deion Sanders, Michael Irvin, the always unintelligible Marshall Faulk, and the loathsome Rich Eisen, you just be a good boy and promote the agenda.

On another note, after the post-game show, some other show came on which had a white moderator and 3 blacks (I only recognized Darren Sharper). A look across the board at studio/halftime/postgame shows on various networks shows that increasingly, the demographics are reflecting that of the NFL. Along with the handful of traitorous whites such as "Mooch", Terry Bradshaw, Jimmy Johnson and the like, this no doubt helps further promote the black quarterback and other anti-white agendas. It then trickles down to the gullible DWFs, who are devoid of any critical thinking skills and will eat up whatever they hear on TV.

It's depressing to think what an uphill battle this is on so many fronts.
 

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I think one of the biggest obstacles I have to overcome when talking with people about the caste system is the belief that these talking heads are "experts". Most people simply cant, or wont except that the sports channels are part of an overarching anti-white male agenda. Most people truly believe that these "experts" are employed because they really know all about the sports they cover.

So many times I get this attitude from people that Im an arrogant guy for thinking I know better than the "experts". HOw dare I disagree with what some "expert" says about Geno Smiff, because Im just some regular guy.

If Steve Mariuchi says Geno can be a quality NFL QB then it must be true. Hes an "expert".
 

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I think one of the biggest obstacles I have to overcome when talking with people about the caste system is the belief that these talking heads are "experts". Most people simply cant, or wont except that the sports channels are part of an overarching anti-white male agenda. Most people truly believe that these "experts" are employed because they really know all about the sports they cover.

So many times I get this attitude from people that Im an arrogant guy for thinking I know better than the "experts". HOw dare I disagree with what some "expert" says about Geno Smiff, because Im just some regular guy.

If Steve Mariuchi says Geno can be a quality NFL QB then it must be true. Hes an "expert".
He "can" be a quality NFL qb but he most likely won't that is the key to good old Geno... I still feel that most White experts are handicapped by PC thinking and won't tell the audience what they truly believe about Black qb prospects. The only guy in recent years who has said anything about any prospect being overrated has been Merrill Hodge (about Radio). Look what happened to Nolan Nowracki after having two honest criticisms of Black qb prospects...
 
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Re: Julian Edelman being jewish or part jewish. It doesn't matter.

If we were talking about Jewish domination of Ivy league admissions, or the banking cartel, or the media, or Hollywood, or the government, or sports ownership, his ethnicity would be relevant. But as a player, he's basically white. I strongly doubt he is getting any special consideration because of his part jewishness.

Now, it would be interesting to see if he ever gets a sports commentary job when he retires. Because it seems like the BSPN talking heads fall into two categories: black former players (typically barely coherent), and jews who have never played or coached any sport since middle school (where they were always picked last). Ironically, Edelman falls into neither of those categories!
 

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One of the main reasons that criticism of black players, and particularly QB's is so verboten by the liberal white "experts" is exactly the same reason that anti-war liberals like Ed Asner won't criticize the Obama regime on its saber-rattling Syrian policy. Asner said that he didn't want to appear to be "anti-black". Absurd, isn't it? To the endless black panderers out there, any criticism of a black, and particularly a black taking a "white position of power" is not seen as being objective, but as being anti-black.
 

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I consider Julian Edelman to be a white man. He may be of Jewish heritage, but he identifies himself as Christian. In my view, he is definitely a player to root for and him being successful is a direct blow to the caste system.
 

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I consider Julian Edelman to be a white man. He may be of Jewish heritage, but he identifies himself as Christian. In my view, he is definitely a player to root for and him being successful is a direct blow to the caste system.

If he is indeed "part Jewish" then props to him for being ballsy enough to claim Christianity.

As far as being Jewish, well, football seems to be the ONE occupation in this life that being Jewish dosent help. Jeremy bloom was born of a Jew mother, and got caste screwed by the NFL.
 
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You guys need to stop taking the troll bait. He makes those types of comments about Jews all the time to try and make us look foolish. I remember him once making a comment about a player being 1/16 Jewish or something like that.
 

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Re: Julian Edelman being jewish or part jewish. It doesn't matter.

If we were talking about Jewish domination of Ivy league admissions, or the banking cartel, or the media, or Hollywood, or the government, or sports ownership, his ethnicity would be relevant. But as a player, he's basically white. I strongly doubt he is getting any special consideration because of his part jewishness.


Now, it would be interesting to see if he ever gets a sports commentary job when he retires. Because it seems like the BSPN talking heads fall into two categories: black former players (typically barely coherent), and jews who have never played or coached any sport since middle school (where they were always picked last). Ironically, Edelman falls into neither of those categories!


Right, for purposes of the Caste System, Jewish athletes are considered White. Jewishness doesn't factor in at all. Jeremy Bloom is half Jewish and was totally screwed over by the NCAA and NFL.
 

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Let's hope Clay Matthews is able to get some good hits on the media's favorite black quarterback today and A-Rod has a big game feeding the ball to Jordy.

If the Saints beat the Bucs it will be full chaos mode in Tampa Bay and Freeman's exit will be hastened.

Could care less whether Scam or Manuel win because those games are sure to be dink and dunk affairs on offense.

San Diego needs to win verse the Eagles. Perhaps they will actually give Woodhead the ball since they realize Mathews is inept and cannot help Rivers sustain drives.

The Jags need to defeat the Raiders to AA QB Pryor goes to 0-2 but will luckily he still has dat upside. It looks like the end for Gabbert in Jacksonville though, Henne is a good QB also never given a fair shake so I hope he plays well.
 

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Scam Newton with a pick!
 

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And it was a white hispanic who picked him off :biggrin:

Justice for trayvon!!!!

LOL, you just made my day with that post. Thanks Leonardfan! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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With light blue eyes, straight, dirty blond hair, a small, slender nose, and a central/northern European skull shape, there’s absolutely nothing about Julian Edelman (the word “edel” meaning “noble” or “aristocratic” in German) that appears “Jewish.” His father, Francis, was most likely an Ashkenazi Jew who didn’t practice his religion (nor does Julian). Aside from a few thousand Yids across the country who actually watch the NFL and recognize “Edelman” to be a popular Jewish surname in Hollywood, Banking, and Television, no football fans are “digging deeper,” especially concerning a guy who looks “whiter” than 90%+ of American whites.

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Anyway, Danny Woodhead is playing a lot on 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] and 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] downs for against the Eagles, recording three catches already.
 

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Woodhead was about to get his 1st stinkin carry of the season; Rivers is handing the ball to him & the 1st qtr clock went to ZERO! Then Start 2nd Qtr w Matthews....very frustrating!!

At least Woodhead has some nice catches out of the backfield
 

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TD catch for Coby Fleener. He's been taking a ridiculous amount of criticism, to the point of being all but written off due to mistakes in preseason games. He's a great athlete and will be a top tight end soon enough.
 

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Werner and Angerer combine for a sack of Tannehill (second best young QB in the league behind Luck).
 
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