Riddlewire
Master
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2007
- Messages
- 2,570
I'm pretty sure that guy stepped out of bounds. No chance for review, though.
Going to be an unwatchable bowl season.
Going to be an unwatchable bowl season.
2013 College Football Season Week 14
- Thread starter Riddlewire
- Start date
davidholly
Mentor
- Joined
- Aug 22, 2012
- Messages
- 1,709
Refs were biased for Auburn all night. Favorable spot after favorable spot.
PhillyFanatic
Guru
- Joined
- Sep 19, 2013
- Messages
- 170
Its getting rarer to find BCS championship games with two White QBs. Alabama vs Texas and Florida vs Oklahoma were most recent ones.
Last edited:
Leonardfan
Hall of Famer
- Joined
- Jul 30, 2006
- Messages
- 24,386
Terrible ending to that Alabama game. Hopefully Manziel pulls out a win tonight to get South Carolina into SEC championship game with their white QB Connor Shaw.
Their is still one more week with the conference championship games - hopefully Mich St wins the Big10 vs Urban's Blackguys.
Mettenberger should be back for the bowl game, he needs to be healthy to help out his draft stock. I have already read anonymous scouts bashing him and comparing him to Ryan Mallet - it will be interesting to see if the media and dwf scouts continue to build on this character assassination. The irony is that Mallet is going to be sought after and could be a trade target for some QB hungry team.
Their is still one more week with the conference championship games - hopefully Mich St wins the Big10 vs Urban's Blackguys.
Mettenberger should be back for the bowl game, he needs to be healthy to help out his draft stock. I have already read anonymous scouts bashing him and comparing him to Ryan Mallet - it will be interesting to see if the media and dwf scouts continue to build on this character assassination. The irony is that Mallet is going to be sought after and could be a trade target for some QB hungry team.
white lightning
Hall of Famer
- Joined
- Oct 16, 2004
- Messages
- 21,458
Tough loss for Alabama. Who could have predicted that? Yes the referees were horrible. I wish Ohio State would have lost. They held on to win by one point just like Oregon did yesterday. So many close games in these rivarly games. Glad to see Zwiniak have a good game for Penn State. Stanford is looking good vs Notre Dames so far. U of A plays ASU tonight. Hoping the underdog can win that one.
Most of the top bowls in recent years have been, mainly the national championship. Alabama Notre Dame w their black quarterback and lsu vs Alabama, w lsu rotating their black quarterback
So many damn black quarterbacks and so many pitiful black db s
Not to mention he had fumbling problems. I read multiple places he had several games w multiple fumbles, one w like 3 or 4. He's big and powerful, good vision and burst,lacks top end speed and agility, doesn't do anything in the passing game. White fullbacks
could do similar running and better and catch and pass block and usually have better agility
looks like he might be like the Nigerian nightmare, he's been running over smaller DBS and got injured on a big hit in the 3rd qtr. maybe a late bloomer but odd he comes out his senior year bulked up and starts producing out of nowhere. Blacks ususually peak earlier, way earlier than when their senior yr starts
damn Manziel needs a wr like Swope
Last edited:
Riddlewire
Master
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2007
- Messages
- 2,570
Max Delorenzo got the bulk of the carries for Connecticut in their mild upset victory over Rutgers. 15 carries for 52 yards and 2 touchdowns. He also caught two passes for 21 yards. Hopefully that indicates a greater willingness to use him as the primary back in the future.
Prescott Line got the majority of the carries for SMU yesterday. 17 carries for 81 yards. SMU was in a bad position, having to start a redshirt freshman at QB in such a complicated offense late in the season.
Maryland Dual Threat Quarterback C.J. Brown sliced and diced the black quarterback-led NC State Wolfpack. Brown was 13 of 25 for 259 yards with 2 touchdowns through the air to go along with his 138 yards and 3 touchdowns on the ground.
Duke Tight End Braxton Deaver had a team-leading 7 receptions for 65 yards in the Blue Devils' victory over the UNC Tar Babies.
Feel free to post any other noteworthy accomplishments from the weekend's games that you come across.
Prescott Line got the majority of the carries for SMU yesterday. 17 carries for 81 yards. SMU was in a bad position, having to start a redshirt freshman at QB in such a complicated offense late in the season.
Maryland Dual Threat Quarterback C.J. Brown sliced and diced the black quarterback-led NC State Wolfpack. Brown was 13 of 25 for 259 yards with 2 touchdowns through the air to go along with his 138 yards and 3 touchdowns on the ground.
Duke Tight End Braxton Deaver had a team-leading 7 receptions for 65 yards in the Blue Devils' victory over the UNC Tar Babies.
Feel free to post any other noteworthy accomplishments from the weekend's games that you come across.
Last edited:
northwinds
Mentor
Yep, a really depressing bowl picture...:...I keep trying to come up with favorable scenarios.......obviously Duke beating FSU in the ACC championship would be great.......Stanford winning the PAC-12 also would be good.....but I don't see any team worth rooting for in the NC game......tough season.....Patriots tomorrow!
northwinds
Mentor
Michael Bennett with 5 catches for 53 yards and a TD in Georgia's OT win against Georgia Tech. Also, Aaron Murray's replacement, Hutson Mason, looking good and poised in his first big game.
MetalHed
Guru
I HATE both teams but USC is beating Clemson and Conner Shaw is the best QB the black cox have ever had. My dad is USC alumni so I'm forced to keep up with the Zulu squad. Boyd is NOT NFL material!
The A&M game was hard to watch. I don't know if that team will win a single game next year without Manziel. He was running for his life again today with no time to pass. At one point one of the game commentators said that Labhart was the only receiver actually running routes. Mike Evans completely disappeared in the last few games of the season. Negative rushing plays by their weak 7th grade running backs and crappy offensive line didn't help.
It looks like Jordan Lynch is our only hope for the Heisman. With everybody else falling except the rapist from FSU it's a possibility. Hopefully the rape charges will finally get filed, but I doubt it.
It looks like Jordan Lynch is our only hope for the Heisman. With everybody else falling except the rapist from FSU it's a possibility. Hopefully the rape charges will finally get filed, but I doubt it.
Riddlewire
Master
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2007
- Messages
- 2,570
Zach Zenner exploded for 249 yards on 30 carries with 2 touchdowns in SDSU's 1st Round playoff victory over Northern Arizona.
Furman and New Hampshire also won. Both teams are led by white runningbacks.
Furman and New Hampshire also won. Both teams are led by white runningbacks.
Last edited:
You can forget about Zenner even trying to go to the NFL. Apparently Zenner is a 4.0 student in Biology and plans to pursue his doctorate. After his senior years he plans to transfer to a school where the material is more complex. He doesn't seem to have any desire to go to the NFL.
Props to Zach Zenner showed off the jets on his 87 yard TD! He also had a 34 yard TD displaying explosive burst! Need to post the VIDEO if I can locate it...
Zach Zwinak...22 carries 115 yards
Beau Blankenship...13-124-1
Steve Hull 13 receptions...155 yds...TD
Jared Abbrederis....12-135
Props to CJ Brown & Tyler Gaffney...
Carr & Fales with make two NFL teams very happy!
Zach Zwinak...22 carries 115 yards
Beau Blankenship...13-124-1
Steve Hull 13 receptions...155 yds...TD
Jared Abbrederis....12-135
Props to CJ Brown & Tyler Gaffney...
Carr & Fales with make two NFL teams very happy!
referendum
Mentor
- Joined
- Nov 13, 2005
- Messages
- 1,687
At least Ohio State had an all-white O-line in the Michigan game after the one black lineman was ejected. Buckeyes are starting Bosa on defense as well I think. Sadly Ohio State is a big step up from Auburn or Florida State. About the best case scenario for the NC game would be Ohio State vs Missouri if they both won and Duke wins also. Don't know if there is any scenario where somehow Baylor and or Michigan State could get in. My fear is an Auburn Florida State matchup.
davidholly
Mentor
- Joined
- Aug 22, 2012
- Messages
- 1,709
So Andre Williams suffered one of those "injuries" that always flare up when an afflete fails to live up to the hype. Poor guy.
" NIU QB Jordan Lynch has 1,755 Rush yds & 20 Rush TD, more than Mark Ingram had when he won Heisman."
He may have over 2,000 yards rushing and passing as well as over 20 TDs rushing and over 20 passing. He needs only 245 yards rushing [COLOR=#009900 !important]next week against Bowling Green to achieve that. Hopefully Duke will beat FSU. I doubt it, after this week there isn't another candidate left for the Heisman outside of Lynch.
Who was the last Heisman from a non-major? If ever there was a year and person to win it from a non-major it is this year and Jordan Lynch.
FSU has two quality wins against 2-loss Clemson and 3 loss Miami. The rest of the teams FSU has faced have 5+ losses - some almost winless teams. To call the ACC weak this year is a big understatement. NIU played FSU last year in the Orange Bowl and predictably lost 31-10, but the score was 17-10 going into the 4th quarter. 5 star athletes vs. no star athletes. Lynch deserves the Heisman. [/COLOR]
He may have over 2,000 yards rushing and passing as well as over 20 TDs rushing and over 20 passing. He needs only 245 yards rushing [COLOR=#009900 !important]next week against Bowling Green to achieve that. Hopefully Duke will beat FSU. I doubt it, after this week there isn't another candidate left for the Heisman outside of Lynch.
Who was the last Heisman from a non-major? If ever there was a year and person to win it from a non-major it is this year and Jordan Lynch.
FSU has two quality wins against 2-loss Clemson and 3 loss Miami. The rest of the teams FSU has faced have 5+ losses - some almost winless teams. To call the ACC weak this year is a big understatement. NIU played FSU last year in the Orange Bowl and predictably lost 31-10, but the score was 17-10 going into the 4th quarter. 5 star athletes vs. no star athletes. Lynch deserves the Heisman. [/COLOR]
Awake in America
Mentor
- Joined
- Jun 30, 2012
- Messages
- 1,017
Georgia will lose a white at tight end, gain one at either guard or tackle (maybe both, but I wouldn't bet on it), and return Bennett at WR. McGowan will be gone, but there's another walkon WR from McGowan's high school who might get some playing time. Douglas will see his role diminish some when Keith Marshall returns from injury next year. Merritt Hall will continue to split time at fullback. We might also see a paleface getting some time at linebacker (Rankin), but the fans probably couldn't handle that. At least 7 white starters on offense, with 8 on the field in rare instances. No black quarterbacks in the near future.
Wes Woodhead
Mentor
- Joined
- Oct 23, 2011
- Messages
- 1,104
I have listened to a good deal of Heisman talk, but haven't until yesterday dug into the stats of all the guys they are mentioning. I was shocked to see just how superior Manziel's stats were to Rapist Winston. The way they have hyped everyone but Manziel, and Lynch is very telling. Looking at both on field play, combined with stats its clearly got to go to one of those two guys. If the award goes to "the best college player" like Im constantly told, then there are only two choices.
GiovaniMarcon
Mentor
Heisman "voting" is just like any other major elective campaign in this country, where the ACTUAL opinion of the people is irrelevant compared to the predetermined outcome decided upon by those who are really in charge behind the scenes.
As in, maybe in real life, six out of ten random American slobs think Manziel ought to have the trophy, but the media doesn't care about garbage like that—they want to push black quarterbacks or else anything non-White. Therefore the media will hype up the chosen tool and badmouth the one who ACTUALLY deserves the praise.
People really aren't sharp enough on average to see how they are being manipulated, so after a while they tow the line that Manziel is not as good as he obviously is, meanwhile UNBELIEVABLY INFERIOR Black quarterbacks are hyped as if they actually can deliver the goods, and the public believes it, because they believe anything the media tells them to.
The media always uses the same techniques to discredit White athletes that have empirical evidence as to their equality or superiority—the media doesn't argue with the stats that say such-and-such White runningback is equal to or superior to such-and-such Black counterpart. Instead, the media says the stats are wrong, or maybe the stats for the White athlete are somehow less rigorous than the standards set for the Black athlete ("Oh, he plays against weak opposition!" is a popular argument).
In a fair world—as in, pure, colorblind meritocacy—there is no reason why a White athlete should not be winning the Heisman trophy a majority of years (perhaps six or seven times out of ten, if not more).
But colorblind meritocracy is EXACTLY what is dangerous to the Heeb media version of what reality is. For, in a true meritocracy, Blacks would be a minority in football (as well they should be), and what's more, they would represent the bottom dregs of the social work-pool, with only a small percentage qualified to be in college, or achieve any sort of authoritative position.
Manziel is clearly superior to any Black quarterback. These are situations where, even if one were to concede that Blacks are faster than Whites (I don't concede that, and anyway no one can claim with a straight face that Blacks are stronger or have greater aerobic stamina), there are enough BRAINS involved in a football game's running attack and defensive strategy to offer ample opportunities for WHITE skills to merit White representation to a greater degree than is the current reality.
The quarterback position, however, is the dealbreaker for Blacks, because it is a combination of all-around skills, and this is precisely why Whites will ALWAYS be the best at this position. It is brains, brawn, speed, wits, and in that contest the best Blacks can only hope to be a pale [dark] imitation of the best Whites.
Thus, the fact that Black quarterbacks even EXIST at the highest levels is more a political statement than any representation of the true abilities of those involved.
Of COURSE most black quarterbacks will fail.
The difference for them, is that they will be excused and have apologists for their failure, where as Whites will never be afforded such luxury.
As in, maybe in real life, six out of ten random American slobs think Manziel ought to have the trophy, but the media doesn't care about garbage like that—they want to push black quarterbacks or else anything non-White. Therefore the media will hype up the chosen tool and badmouth the one who ACTUALLY deserves the praise.
People really aren't sharp enough on average to see how they are being manipulated, so after a while they tow the line that Manziel is not as good as he obviously is, meanwhile UNBELIEVABLY INFERIOR Black quarterbacks are hyped as if they actually can deliver the goods, and the public believes it, because they believe anything the media tells them to.
The media always uses the same techniques to discredit White athletes that have empirical evidence as to their equality or superiority—the media doesn't argue with the stats that say such-and-such White runningback is equal to or superior to such-and-such Black counterpart. Instead, the media says the stats are wrong, or maybe the stats for the White athlete are somehow less rigorous than the standards set for the Black athlete ("Oh, he plays against weak opposition!" is a popular argument).
In a fair world—as in, pure, colorblind meritocacy—there is no reason why a White athlete should not be winning the Heisman trophy a majority of years (perhaps six or seven times out of ten, if not more).
But colorblind meritocracy is EXACTLY what is dangerous to the Heeb media version of what reality is. For, in a true meritocracy, Blacks would be a minority in football (as well they should be), and what's more, they would represent the bottom dregs of the social work-pool, with only a small percentage qualified to be in college, or achieve any sort of authoritative position.
Manziel is clearly superior to any Black quarterback. These are situations where, even if one were to concede that Blacks are faster than Whites (I don't concede that, and anyway no one can claim with a straight face that Blacks are stronger or have greater aerobic stamina), there are enough BRAINS involved in a football game's running attack and defensive strategy to offer ample opportunities for WHITE skills to merit White representation to a greater degree than is the current reality.
The quarterback position, however, is the dealbreaker for Blacks, because it is a combination of all-around skills, and this is precisely why Whites will ALWAYS be the best at this position. It is brains, brawn, speed, wits, and in that contest the best Blacks can only hope to be a pale [dark] imitation of the best Whites.
Thus, the fact that Black quarterbacks even EXIST at the highest levels is more a political statement than any representation of the true abilities of those involved.
Of COURSE most black quarterbacks will fail.
The difference for them, is that they will be excused and have apologists for their failure, where as Whites will never be afforded such luxury.