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They got Kevin Kolb, re-signed Lyle Sendlein, let Deuce Lutui go to Cincinnati... signed Stewart Bradley, G Daryn Colledge and Jeff King. My gosh, are they the favorite to win the division now??!

Or St. Louis, who added Harvey Dahl, Mike Sims-Walker and John Henderson?
 

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I like the Bradley signing. This is his second season back from his torn ACL, so he should be dominant again. Few players come back their first season from such an injury as strong as they were before, but of course the media and DWFs were quick to down Bradley last season even though he played well but hadn't recovered all his quickness yet.
 

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1630601/ryan-williams


Cards' Williams out for the year: Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt told KTAR-AM that he's "pretty sure" rookie RB Ryan Williams ruptured his right patella tendon on Friday night in Green Bay and will miss the entire season. Williams was hurt when he tackled from behind by Packers safety M.D. Williams, who landed on his ankle. Williams was in pain on the field before being helped to a cart by Cardinals medical personnel. The team came out to the cart to console him while he sat up with his hands gripping the front of his facemask. The injury came on Williams' first rush of the night, a six-yard scamper to the right side.
(Updated 08/19/2011)

I love the "ROY" comment from August 16th from the comments section of his profile.. this guy has all kinds of fanboys. While he may have dominated the ACC two years ago, he wasn't "all dat" last year and was worn down. This injury, if true, is just a continuation of his decline. A lot of black running backs' fade fast; One or two good year's in college and then totally average in the NFL.
 

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Arizona's starting corner - Greg Toler - has been put on the IR due to a knee injury.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1674151/greg-toler

Toler done for the season: The Cardinals placed DB Greg Toler (knee) on the injured reserve list on Monday, ending his season before it began. Toler was hurt in the team's preseason game on Saturday.
(Updated 08/29/2011)

I still think that Arizona and St. Louis will be pretty equal in the division. In my view, there are some media people that have gone overboard with their expectations for St. Louis. Both teams' have some of the same issues that they have to deal with, like their sumo o-lines and injury prone running backs.
 

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Stewart Bradley is still unable to learn the nuances of the Arizona defense that have been mastered by the team's black linebackers. :icon_rolleyes:

Bradley Still Learning, Waits for Chance

Stewart Bradley is a smart man. He reads Nietzsche and James Joyce. He studies French. He loves architecture and hopes to one day build his own house.

The linebacker, however, is still learning about the Cardinals’ defense, and the nuances of the 3-4 compared to the 4-3, the scheme he played his first four NFL seasons while with the Eagles. The players he is with at inside linebacker – Paris Lenon, Daryl Washington and Reggie Walker – all played the 3-4 last year, albeit with a different defensive coordinator. So Bradley is playing catch-up after an absent offseason, and that’s the big reason why he played little on defense in the season opener.

It was a surprise, to be sure. Bradley signed a five-year contract worth about $25 million to come to the Cards. An immediate impact was expected. It just hasn’t turned out that way – yet.

“I don’t know if struggling is the right word,” coach Ken Whisenhunt said. “I just think he needs more reps.

“There are quite a few guys who can’t just look at a book and enact what they see in the book. A lot of guys have to go out and actually experience it. They have to get the reps or they have to walk through it. … It’s a big difference, as far as adjustments, where your eyes have to be, what you’re looking at, calls you have to make, gaps you have to fit.”

Bradley played only in the Cards’ goal-line defense in the opener (plus special teams). He is remarkably good-natured about his situation. He understands his learning curve, and if the frustration is getting to him, he hides it well. He just wants to keep plugging away, knowing it will come.

“I’ll make little quizzes, write all the plays out and time myself, see how quickly I can write all the adjustments out without thinking,” said Bradley, who has been used to mentoring other players on the playbook when he was in Philly. “It has to be automatic.”

Bradley said a big difference is gap coverage – in a 4-3, he said, your gap is your gap, and “there’s solidarity in your brain.” That changes in a 3-4, and he is still gaining a comfort level. He made the point that learning an offense has an advantage because the offense is picking the plays. The defense doesn’t have that luxury, so a more wide-ranging playbook is essential. “We don’t have a first 15 (script) on defense,” Bradley said with a smile. “‘OK, guys, we’re going to go nickel and then try goal-line, regardless of how they line up.’ ”

The Cards do have some packages in where Bradley doesn’t have a lot of responsibility, he noted, and those are “nice.” “But the deeper we get into this, the more reps I will get (everywhere),” Bradley said. “It’s just nose to the grindstone and help where I can. It’s all about winning games.”

And it’s reps, not just self-times tests at home at the dining room table, that Bradley needs.

He said his biggest adjustment was something as basic staying square to the ball. “In Cover 3 and red zone, I used to man everything up,” Bradley said. “I’d turn my body and get with a man, and now it’s ‘Stay square.’ I used to get my ass ripped for staying square, now it’s like, I better stay square.

“I know what all my assignments are. I know my coverages. I can pick that stuff up. It’s having reps … you’ve just got to see it.

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2011/09/13/bradley-still-learning-waits-for-chance/
 

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i would sum it up in as few as three words: NOT BLACK ENOUGH

for Cards defense, that is.
 

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This writer asks the right question, but of course won't delve into answering it below the surface level. The Cardinals, year in and year out without fail, have been one of the blackest teams in the NFL ever since moving from St. Louis after the 1987 season. And other than a very brief short-lived resurgence after Ken Whisenhunt became head coach, they've also annually been among the dregs of the league during the same time frame.

Why not note, as the black sportswriter Jason Whitlock has, that surrounding Tom Brady and Peyton Manning with some players from the same backgrounds and life experiences instead of nothing but ghetto dwellers, has paid very successful dividends for New England and Indianapolis? Does Kevin Kolb, who is now drawing all kinds of vile hate from the media and DWFs despite very limited experience as a starter, have any chance of success given Arizona's long-standing "culture"?

The Arizona Cardinals have a culture problem?

by Adam Green

Culture is a funny thing with regards to sports.

Like chemistry, a winning team tends to have it good while a losing team tends to struggle.

One of the greatest clichés in all of sports, part of the Cardinals' resurgence was attributed to the change in culture brought by Ken Whisenhunt.

Just more than one full season removed from a playoff game, are the Cardinals back to the Dave McGinnis-era of one heartbeat, three wins?

Those teams didn't really expect success, and that attitude was reflected in the team's many poor performances.

Following the latest rough game by the 2011 Cardinals, Kevin Kolb pointed to an issue with work ethic and desire, something Todd Heap may have confirmed.

"I think it's a different culture and it's something that we need to change," Heap told Arizona Sports 620's Burns and Gambo earlier in the week, discussing the difference between Baltimore, where Heap was, and Arizona, where he is. "There are certain teams and certain organizations where - and it's not an organization - but…where you know that everybody on that team expects what's going to happen on Sunday.

"And when it doesn't happen it's like the worst thing in the world. I think we need to get to that point where we expect - where everybody in that locker room - expects what's going to happen on Sunday."

Fans may be back to expecting the worst, but the players too? I hoped thought the franchise was past this.

Then again, the quote can be taken any number of different ways.

Is the tight end giving us canned athlete response, saying culture needs to change if his team is struggling? You know, the standard "I left a good team and joined a bad one, the culture must be to blame" thing?

Or, perhaps, could there actually something rotten in the state of Denmark? Is it possible that the Arizona Cardinals, thought to be long past their days as the place where careers go to die, have regressed back to being the "Same Old Cardinals?"

If so, it sure didn't take long.

"We fought the same battles when I was in Arizona," Kurt Warner told Burns and Gambo, noting that it happens wherever a player goes. "You have to find ways to be able to do it."

Warner and the Cardinals found ways before, but since he retired the Cardinals are struggling in that department, meaning either the players aren't terribly good or the coaching staff is struggling to do its job.
Does a team need to have a positive culture in order to win games or does winning beget the right attitude? The Cardinals are going to find out, one way or another.

http://arizonasports.com/category/green-blogs/20111013/The-Arizona-Cardinals-have-a-culture-problem/
 
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This writer asks the right question, but of course won't delve into answering it below the surface level. The Cardinals, year in and year out without fail, have been one of the blackest teams in the NFL ever since moving from St. Louis after the 1987 season. And other than a very brief short-lived resurgence after Ken Whisenhunt became head coach, they've also annually been among the dregs of the league during the same time frame.

Why not note, as the black sportswriter Jason Whitlock has, that surrounding Tom Brady and Peyton Manning with some players from the same backgrounds and life experiences instead of nothing but ghetto dwellers, has paid very successful dividends for New England and Indianapolis? Does Kevin Kolb, who is now drawing all kinds of vile hate from the media and DWFs despite very limited experience as a starter, have any chance of success given Arizona's long-standing "culture"?

The Arizona Cardinals have a culture problem?

by Adam Green

Culture is a funny thing with regards to sports.

Like chemistry, a winning team tends to have it good while a losing team tends to struggle.

One of the greatest clichés in all of sports, part of the Cardinals' resurgence was attributed to the change in culture brought by Ken Whisenhunt.

Just more than one full season removed from a playoff game, are the Cardinals back to the Dave McGinnis-era of one heartbeat, three wins?

Those teams didn't really expect success, and that attitude was reflected in the team's many poor performances.

Following the latest rough game by the 2011 Cardinals, Kevin Kolb pointed to an issue with work ethic and desire, something Todd Heap may have confirmed.

"I think it's a different culture and it's something that we need to change," Heap told Arizona Sports 620's Burns and Gambo earlier in the week, discussing the difference between Baltimore, where Heap was, and Arizona, where he is. "There are certain teams and certain organizations where - and it's not an organization - but…where you know that everybody on that team expects what's going to happen on Sunday.

"And when it doesn't happen it's like the worst thing in the world. I think we need to get to that point where we expect - where everybody in that locker room - expects what's going to happen on Sunday."

Fans may be back to expecting the worst, but the players too? I hoped thought the franchise was past this.

Then again, the quote can be taken any number of different ways.

Is the tight end giving us canned athlete response, saying culture needs to change if his team is struggling? You know, the standard "I left a good team and joined a bad one, the culture must be to blame" thing?

Or, perhaps, could there actually something rotten in the state of Denmark? Is it possible that the Arizona Cardinals, thought to be long past their days as the place where careers go to die, have regressed back to being the "Same Old Cardinals?"

If so, it sure didn't take long.

"We fought the same battles when I was in Arizona," Kurt Warner told Burns and Gambo, noting that it happens wherever a player goes. "You have to find ways to be able to do it."

Warner and the Cardinals found ways before, but since he retired the Cardinals are struggling in that department, meaning either the players aren't terribly good or the coaching staff is struggling to do its job.
Does a team need to have a positive culture in order to win games or does winning beget the right attitude? The Cardinals are going to find out, one way or another.

http://arizonasports.com/category/green-blogs/20111013/The-Arizona-Cardinals-have-a-culture-problem/

A good many self-described "conservatives" will say: "The problem isn't race. It's culture."
 

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Stewart Bradley, whose easily on the better linebackers in the league, is getting screwed in Arizona. I don't know what the issue is but with competition like Paris Lenon something is really wrong.

Through five games, Cardinals ILB Stewart Bradley has only been on the field for 19.5 percent of the team's defensive snaps.



The Cardinals gave Bradley a $10 million signing bonus on a five-year, $25 million contract in late July. He's failed to crack the inside linebacker rotation behind Paris Lenon and Daryl Washington, managing just 14 tackles on the season. Needless to day, he's been a colossal free agent bust thus far.
 

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Heap's successor is getting good reviews!

Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt spoke highly of backup TE Rob Housler on Friday.

"(Housler) has shown he can make some plays, and we're excited about what he can become," Whisenhunt said. With Todd Heap dealing with a hamstring injury, the team's official website reported on Friday the Cardinals are expected to "lean on" Housler, who has 4.5 speed in the 40. If you're really hurting for a bye week fill-in, Housler could be a shrewd under-the-radar play
 

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A good many self-described "conservatives" will say: "The problem isn't race. It's culture."


Unfortunately you are correct. What once was one in the same is now somehow inexplicably looked at as different. I'm not sure how they get to considering Culture and race different, can't fathom it. You can't have one without the other.
 

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Arizona's loss to T-Jack, and failing to finish off the Giants, were simply devastating for this team. They had the opportunity to be a decent team, to be respectable. They failed to finish off Baltimore, too..

Now, this: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/414742/kevin-kolb

Report: Kolb unlikely to play: ESPN reports Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb, who is battling a turf toe injury, is unlikely to play Week 9 vs. St. Louis. He is in a walking boot and not expected to practice Thursday. John Skelton would be the expected starter if Kolb is out.
(Updated 11/03/2011)
 

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Kevin Kolb got a good OT-win over Dallas! He needed this.
 

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A sumo gets kudos for not gaining 50 pounds in the first few weeks of the offseason:

Cardinals NT Dan Williams has remained at his playing weight of 327 this offseason. A "daily visitor" at the Cardinals' team facility as he rehabs from a broken arm, Williams has apparently finally committed to staying in shape. "I just want my coaches and teammates to trust I’ll be at the right weight," he said. Williams will be 100 percent for training camp, and should open 2012 as a starter.
 
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