2010 Green Bay Packers

[whiteathlete33]

Swain did make the team as a fifth receiver. He probably won't see the field much unless a few affletes get injured. Still it certainly is great news.

 

[rajuncajun]

I counted 24 brothers (I did count Chillar as one of us) on the 53 man roster, probably the most of any team! Let's all pull for the Pack to make another long run in the playoffs!

 

[Leonardfan]

Nice to see Swain made the team. It seems McCarthy sees potential in him. I wish they would of signed Chase Coffman though.

 

[Deadlift]

Rodgers would love for Pack to get Marshawn Lynch

http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/24603587

Lynch is not a resoundingly better option â€" he too lacks awareness, and there are major character issues. Still, he is a better option nonetheless. And, there is at least one prominent Packer who thinks trading for him is a good idea.

Bring him on," Aaron Rodgers said, without hesitation, according to CBS Rapid Reporter Greg Bedard in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Asked about the character concerns with his former Cal teammate, Rodgers replied, "(Lynch is) a great player. And any character issues the team might see, I think in a situation like that, and I think you've seen that with other players across the league, when you give a guy a change of scenery and a guy like that who feels he might have something to prove, and surround him with two guys, (Desmond) Bishop and myself who played with him...I think that can only help him feel comfortable and see a lot of production."

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I have to give Michael Silver credit for writing that article on Gerhart being underranked and stereotyped. However, he was the guy who started this push for the Packers to sign Marshawn Lynch- who hasn't even performed at the level of an average RB. He could have mentioned Danny Woodhead, but I guess touting the talents of a second white RB would send shockwaves throughout Yahooligan/White Rivals. It would hurt the very site he works for's credibility. Yep, to Silver there is only one white RB in the entire universe worth talking about- Toby Gerhart "the anomolous freak". Mentioning Woodhead as another white who is VERY underrated- would be seen as "pro white". Way to coward out and tote the line Silver. "Journalism" is dead, company prostitution is alive and well.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I have to give Michael Silver credit for writing that article on Gerhart being underranked and stereotyped. However, he was the guy who started this push for the Packers to sign Marshawn Lynch- who hasn't even performed at the level of an average RB. He could have mentioned Danny Woodhead, but I guess touting the talents of a second white RB would send shockwaves throughout Yahooligan/White Rivals. It would hurt the very site he works for's credibility. Yep, to Silver there is only one white RB in the entire universe worth talking about- Toby Gerhart "the anomolous freak". Mentioning Woodhead as another white who is VERY underrated- would be seen as "pro white". Way to coward out and tote the line Silver. "Journalism" is dead, company prostitution is alive and well.

Remember when Larry Johnson came out of college in 2003? I'm using him as an example because Gerhart has similar size. Johnson was a first round draft pick and is slower than Toby. SI shows that he ran a 4.62 40.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/323.html

Yet no one doubted his athletic ability.

 

[Don Wassall]

I have to give Michael Silver credit for writing that article on Gerhart being underranked and stereotyped. However, he was the guy who started this push for the Packers to sign Marshawn Lynch- who hasn't even performed at the level of an average RB. He could have mentioned Danny Woodhead, but I guess touting the talents of a second white RB would send shockwaves throughout Yahooligan/White Rivals. It would hurt the very site he works for's credibility. Yep, to Silver there is only one white RB in the entire universe worth talking about- Toby Gerhart "the anomolous freak". Mentioning Woodhead as another white who is VERY underrated- would be seen as "pro white". Way to coward out and tote the line Silver. "Journalism" is dead, company prostitution is alive and well.

Remember when Larry Johnson came out of college in 2003? I'm using him as an example because Gerhart has similar size. Johnson was a first round draft pick and is slower than Toby. SI shows that he ran a 4.62 40.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/323.html

Yet no one doubted his athletic ability.

I had to doublecheck Johnson's Combine time, because the year he went into the NFL draft all the hype was that he ran a 4.4 at his size. I just did a search and this comment is typical:

well for RB's Larry Johnson ran a very fast 40 around 4.35-4.40. that's why he was compared to Bo Jackson who ran close to the same. probably faster. another RB who was fast at the 40 was Ronnie Brown. another 4.40 40. And don't forget about DE Julius Peppers. He is 6'6" and ran a really fast 40. http://www.sports1234.com/football-american/2016-1-football-american.html

Yet in reality Larry Johnson was slower than Toby Gerhart coming out of college. If Gerhart had run a 4.62 at the Combine like Johnson did he would have had a much more difficult time avoiding being switched to fullback in the NFL. Great example of how the Caste System media propaganda machine works.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I have to give Michael Silver credit for writing that article on Gerhart being underranked and stereotyped. However, he was the guy who started this push for the Packers to sign Marshawn Lynch- who hasn't even performed at the level of an average RB. He could have mentioned Danny Woodhead, but I guess touting the talents of a second white RB would send shockwaves throughout Yahooligan/White Rivals. It would hurt the very site he works for's credibility. Yep, to Silver there is only one white RB in the entire universe worth talking about- Toby Gerhart "the anomolous freak". Mentioning Woodhead as another white who is VERY underrated- would be seen as "pro white". Way to coward out and tote the line Silver. "Journalism" is dead, company prostitution is alive and well.

Remember when Larry Johnson came out of college in 2003? I'm using him as an example because Gerhart has similar size. Johnson was a first round draft pick and is slower than Toby. SI shows that he ran a 4.62 40.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/323.html

Yet no one doubted his athletic ability.

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<div>I had to doublecheck Johnson's Combine time, because the year he went into the NFL draft all the hype was that he ran a 4.4 at his size. I just did a search and this comment is typical:</div>
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<div>well for RB's Larry Johnson ran a very fast 40 around 4.35-4.40. that's why he was compared to Bo Jackson who ran close to the same. probably faster. another RB who was fast at the 40 was Ronnie Brown. another 4.40 40. And don't forget about DE Julius Peppers. He is 6'6" and ran a really fast 40. http://www.sports1234.com/football-american/2016-1-football-american.html</div>
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<div>Yet in reality Larry Johnson was slower than Toby Gerhart coming out of college. If Gerhart had run a 4.62 at the Combine like Johnson did he would have had a much more difficult time avoiding being switched to fullback in the NFL. Great example of how the Caste System media propaganda machine works.</div>
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The media loves to hype up prospects like Larry Johnson and claim he ran a 4.4. Johnson would probably be the fastest big back in the league if those times were accurate. I checked USAToday which is also a credible source and it shows him running a 4.56. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/johnson-larry.htm

Regardless, he's slower than Gerhart and less athletic. To be perfectly fair his stats in his senior season were better than Toby's. Penn State always has among the best offensive lines in the country so that could be a big factor.

 

[Don Wassall]

Caste Football Looks at the 2010 Green Bay Packers



The Packers began the 2010 regular season with more White players on their roster, 24, than any other team. The Falcons and Patriots (after signing RB Danny Woodhead) were next with 21. The Packers tied the Patriots and Rams for the most White starters with 9. It should be kept in mind when reading Caste Football's analyses of NFL teams that the demographics of rosters change from week to week due to injuries, promotions and demotions.


Green Bay has been one of the very few teams to successfully transition from being led by a legendary quarterback to one who appears to be just as good, and maybe better, in Aaron Rodgers, their former first round pick from Cal. After waiting behind Brett Favre for three seasons, Rodgers stepped in after the organization balked at Favre's annual will-he-or-won't-he-return passion play and immediately played at a high level in 2008, following that with a terrific season in 2009 that has many already calling him one of the best in the league. The only comparable successful transition in the last 20 years was when Steve Young took over for Joe Montana in San Francisco, but Young was a much more experienced QB when he took over than was Rodgers.


The Packers' high octane offense, like the high octane offenses in Indianapolis and New England, consists of mostly White starters. (It's likely not a coincidence either that all three teams also have two White receivers on their rosters.)


Like the Patriots, the Packers start an all-White offensive line. The left tackle is Chad Clifton, the 11 year veteran out of Tennessee. Boise State grad Daryn Colledge is the left guard; Scott Wells, another Tennesse product, is the starting center; Josh Sitton is the right guard; and Mark Tauscher, the 11th year man from Wisconsin, is the right tackle.


All of the backup o-linemen except one are White: 2010 first round draft pick Bryan Bulaga, center Jason Spitz, T. J. Lang, and rookie Nick McDonald from Grand Valley State make up a deep and talented mix of young players and veterans.


Tight end, as it has since the days of Mark Chmura, remains mostly barren of White players. Tom Crabtree, in his first year out of Miami of Ohio, is currently listed as the third stringer at the position.


At running back, John Kuhn is the starting fullback and sees the field a lot as Green Bay is one of the few teams to still heavily utilize the position. The former record breaking tailback for Shippensburg is also now the backup tailback after Ryan Grant's season ending injury in the first regular season game. Kuhn scored 6 touchdowns receiving and rushing for Green Bay in 2008 and 2009. He is very powerful and was used some at halfback during the preseason. If the Packers use him more as a runner in the wake of Grant's injury he would be more effective if he loses weight from his current beefed up status of 6-0 and 255 pounds, but there's little question but that Kuhn is very capable of equaling or exceeding the league average of 4.0 yards per rush if given the opportunity for substantial carries. As it is he likely will at least be used quite a bit as the goal line back.


Fourth year player Korey Hall from Boise State is the team's other fullback.


Drafted in the second round in 2008, WR Jordy Nelson, the record setter from Kansas State, is still stuck as the Packers' third or fourth receiver. Greg Jennings is firmly entrenched as number one, while Donald Driver is one of the rare black receivers who has played at a high level into his mid-30s (Hines Ward and Derrick Mason are the other two currently playing). However Driver had surgery on both knees during the offseason and this could be the year that he begins to noticeably slip. Nelson has been in a battle for playing time during his stay in Green Bay with James Jones. Nelson is bigger, has better hands and his athleticism and big play ability is just as good as Jones's -- witness Nelson's use as a kick returner -- and was drafted in the second round, while Jones was taken in the third round in 2007. All offseason and during training camp, the anti-White media kept annointing Jones the third receiver and heir apparent to Driver, but that still remains to be settled. What's frustrating is that even pro-Caste observers say that Nelson could start for a number of teams. He will have to continue to bide his time until he either starts for the Packers or becomes a free agent and looks for greener pastures.


WR Brett Swain was drafted the same year as Nelson (yes, Green Bay drafted two White receivers in the same draft -- call the Cultural Marxist guardians of morality and politically correct thought!) but has been beset by injuries. He is the team's fifth receiver, but currently well below Nelson and Jones when it comes to playing time.


Matt Flynn, who led Louisiana State to the 2007 national championship, is Aaron Rodgers' backup and the only other QB on the roster.


On the defensive side of the ball the Packers are down to two White starters, both linebackers. Elite pass rusher Aaron Kampman has moved on to Jacksonville, after last season's ill-fated experiment at moving him to linebacker ended with Kampman on IR. LOLB Clay Matthews, the team's second first round draft pick in '09, was outstanding and really came on in the latter part of the season. He finished his rookie campaign with 10 sacks, and promptly picked up where he left off in the first game of 2010, terrorizing the Eagles backfield all game. Matthews is the son of the great linebacker Clay Matthews, who played 19 seasons, mostly with the Browns, and should be in the Hall of Fame; and is the nephew of Hall of Fame center Bruce Matthews. Both his father and uncle were two of the greatest ironmen in NFL history, which bodes well for young Clay to have a long and productive career.


ILB A. J. Hawk was also a first round draft pick, in 2006. He has had a good career but has not developed into the difference maker originally hoped. Hawk had 119 tackles his rookie season, but that total has gradually dropped to 89 last year. Although he is still the starter at LILB, Hawk didn't see the field against the Eagles' West Coast offense in the season opener, and this could be his last season in Green Bay.


The Packers' other 3 White defensive players are all backup linebackers. BYU grad Brady Poppinga has started at outside linebacker at different times during his 6 year stay in Green Bay, and he could end up starting again at some point over Brad Jones, who hasn't exactly been tearing it up.


Brandon Chillar (of White and Indian background) is a talented inside linebacker who played a lot as a backup for the Rams before joining Green Bay in 2008.


Frank Zombo, a rookie from Central Michigan, was outstanding in preseason games, making plays all over the field, and continued that in the regular season with a sack in the team's first game. He definitely looks like eventual starting material, and the Packers may be one of the few teams to give an unheralded free agent from a small school like Zombo an opportunity.


Thirteen of head coach Mike McCarthy's 19 assistant coaches are White.


NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 9


NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 24


GRADE: C

 

[foobar75]

Holy cow, the Packers are only 3 white players away from having a majority white roster, and thereby being universally condemned by every TV sports show and media outlet for being too white.

I think we all know which teams caste football will be rooting for during 2010. A SB featuring any combination of GB, ATL, NE, HOU, and IND would be perfectly fine, and by the looks of it, each of these teams appear to have a good shot at that.

 

[TwentyTwo]

To think the Packers are the whitest team with 24 out of 53....guess you would expect that in a town like Green Bay that's population is at least 90% white...STILL...More teams should have at least this many...do the percentages %'s still seem to bevery gradually going down over the years?? If there were only 3 more white's on the roster it would make it 27 to 26...if every roster where like this...the NFL would be more enjoyable!

The last time I can remember a defense starting more white's on Defense were the NY Jets...don't remember exact years bec I was too young...was it the late 80's with Klecko/Gastineau and co...? 6 whites started on the front 7...the secondary was all black..making it 6 to 5...DB Rich Miano got playing time and maybe a start or two. I know the Bills came close a few years back...but it's sad to think if an NFL team starts 4 whites in this day &amp; age...it's considered white for a defense...if the Packers could have a white playing D-Line or DB as a starter that would be nice...they seem to favor white LBers.

How many teams start a coal-black D....or with only one or two whites?? Too many to count..would like to see this change. Maybe the Packers will draft Jared Crick??

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Yes, the percentages of White players and starters has been declining every few years. Right now, Whites are 30.1% of the players and 25.3% of the starters. See this thread. Ten years ago I would say it was safe to say that Whites were roughly 1/3 of the starters. Twenty years ago the Bills flirted with being half-White. Yes, the early 80s Jets were probably the last majority White team, certainly one of the last. As I wrote in another thread, it appears as though the bar is being nudged ever lower regarding the number of White players/starters it is acceptable to have.

 

[whiteathlete33]

It's becoming more and more common for teams to have only two to three white starters. The Buccaneers are one example. In the 90's I think every team had at least four white starters pr more. I remember the Jacksonville Jaguars had quite a few white starters on defense and offense.

The biggest and most noticeable change has been the darkening of the offensive lines. The number of defensive ends and defensive tackles has also dropped but not as much. The number of white receivers in the league seems to have gone up though it's not much of an increase.
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[Don Wassall]

There were teams in the '90s that started three and fewer Whites. The Cardinals, Cowboys and Steelers come to mind. In fact the success of the latter two seemed to spur on the move to make the o-line a black position as both teams had all-black lines at various times. The Steelers were the first team ever to have an all-black line, right after Bill Cowher was hired.




Brian Billick was hired by the Ravens for the '99 season and Jim Haslett began coaching the Saints in '00. Both were fanatical Caste disciples that went to almost all-black teams at the beginning of the '00s.

There certainly has been noticeably more teams starting 3 or fewer Whites since 2000, three just to begin the '10 season and another half dozen with just 4.

 

[whiteathlete33]

There were teams in the '90s that started three and fewer Whites. The Cardinals, Cowboys and Steelers come to mind. In fact the success of the latter two seemed to spur on the move to make the o-line a black position as both teams had all-black lines at various times. The Steelers were the first team ever to have an all-black line, right after Bill Cowher was hired.
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I forgot about that Cowboys team. I know for a period during 90's they started Aikman, Moose Johnston, and Eric Bjornson. Also Chad Henning started for them on defense for several years during the late 90's giving them a whopping four white starters. Bjornson didn't start all the time so that brought them down to three white starters. I could have sworn I remember a white starter on the offensive line but I guess I was wrong. They did have a Polynesian starter.

I used 1997 as a baseline and I count four white starters on the Steelers, Breuner, Myslinski, Strzelczyk, and Stai, all on offense. I'm sure it could have been three or less white starters other years on the Steelers.
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[Don Wassall]

Jay Novacek was the Cowboys best known TE in the '90s. Mark Stepnoski was their center. I wasn't referring to all ten years of the '90s, just stating that at various times during that decade several teams had 3 or fewer White starters.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I know what you were trying to say Don. Sorry if my post was a little misleading. During a majority of the 90's the Cowboys had at least four white starters but as you stated a few seasons did have three white starters. After Novacek the Cowboys started Dave Lafleuer(spelling) and Eric Bjornson at tight end. Novacek was basically a wide receiver who had many productive seasons.

 

[Don Wassall]

I know what you were trying to say Don. Sorry if my post was a little misleading. During a majority of the 90's the Cowboys had at least four white starters but as you stated a few seasons did have three white starters. After Novacek the Cowboys started Dave Lafleuer(spelling) and Eric Bjornson at tight end. Novacek was basically a wide receiver who had many productive seasons.

You wrote that no team in the '90s started less than 4 Whites. That wasn't "a little misleading," it was inaccurate. Naming various white players on the Cowboys is irrelevant to that point.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I know what you were trying to say Don. Sorry if my post was a little misleading. During a majority of the 90's the Cowboys had at least four white starters but as you stated a few seasons did have three white starters. After Novacek the Cowboys started Dave Lafleuer(spelling) and Eric Bjornson at tight end. Novacek was basically a wide receiver who had many productive seasons.

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I wrote I think every team in the 90's had at least 4 white starters. I couldn't think of any teams that had less of the top of my head. There sure were less teams in the 90's that sunk that low than there are today. Looking into the starters for the entire decade of the 90's I can't find a single season were there were less than four white starters for the year.

 

[Don Wassall]

So, knowing that starting lineups fluctuate from week to week, you researched every game for every team in the 1990s and didn't find a single time in which a team started less than 4 Whites, is that what you're telling me?

 

[whiteathlete33]

So, knowing that starting lineups fluctuate from week to week, you researched every game for every team in the 1990s and didn't find a single time in which a team started less than 4 Whites, is that what you're telling me?

I researched every single season. No I didn't research every single game. That would be ridiculous. Regardless there were four white starters a season unless white players were injured for several games.

 

[Don Wassall]

And your "research" found that Buddy Ryan's Cardinals teams never started less than 4 Whites?

 

[whiteathlete33]

And your "research" found that Buddy Ryan's Cardinals teams never started less than 4 Whites?

I never said anything about the Cardinals or Steelers but I'm going to check them out as well.

 

[Don Wassall]

And your "research" found that Buddy Ryan's Cardinals teams never started less than 4 Whites?

I never said anything about the Cardinals or Steelers but I'm going to check them out as well.

Actually, you wrote: Looking into the starters for the entire decade of the 90's I can't find a single season were there were less than four white starters for the year.

That means you looked at every team, not just the Cowboys.

 

[Don Wassall]

So, knowing that starting lineups fluctuate from week to week, you researched every game for every team in the 1990s and didn't find a single time in which a team started less than 4 Whites, is that what you're telling me?

I researched every single season. No I didn't research every single game. That would be ridiculous. Regardless there were four white starters a season unless white players were injured for several games.

You also wrote here that you researched every team for each year of the '90s.