2008 Summer Olympics

[GiovaniMarcon]

Was he that pissed of to lose to a Kazakh?

Anyway, the Swedish guy he kicked has the classic "Durrr" look on his mug. I hope he hits him back with an Ikea cabinet.

 

[Guest]

Angel Matos is the newest member to the "Clove". He joins OJ Simpson, Kobe Bryant, Pacman Jones, Mike Vick, Tank Johnson clove HOF leader Jim Brown. I am sure I have left off numerous other infamous members. With entry into this club(clove) members get a new nick name. See my earlier post on LT's disgusting comments thread.

What a f'ning prick. I am glad the IOC has banished him, his records at the Olympics and his enabling coach. Great!

 

[Guest]

GiovaniMarcon, your last post was the funniest on this site Werewolf's story about a brain surgeon. Simply classic!!!&n bsp;

 

[moose]

matos does have one redeeming feature- mortality.

 

[Guest]

Just watched the replay of this prick kung fooing Olympic officials. He not only kicked the Ikea clerk,

but he also punched a chinese official. This is a African Cuban at his best.

 

[Guest]

Members of the former Soviet Union won a total of 173 medals in Beijing, which was by far the most successful block of countries. Of course Russia by itself came in third.

Just combing Russia with Ukraine put them one behind the Chinese.

Add Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, and they would have topped the USA for first place.

 

[moose]

my favorite of the olympics artur taymazov gold medal winner at freestyle wrestling 120kgs and andre armanau, gold medal winner at 105 kgs weightlifting,taymazov is an all time great and armanau will be an all time great. nbc did a great job of televising wrestling, weightlifting, and boxing. My other sport judo I did not see any matches, was judo shown at all on nbc?

 

[foobar75]

Members of the former Soviet Union won a total of 173 medals in Beijing, which was by far the most successful block of countries. Of course Russia by itself came in third.

Just combing Russia with Ukraine put them one behind the Chinese.

Add Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, and they would have topped the USA for first place.

But that's flawed logic. If the Soviet Union was still together, it doesn't mean they would have won more medals than the USA, because some of those athletes from the other republics would've cannibilized each other during their Olympic trials, since the # of athletes you can bring to the games are not unlimited.


Overall, this was not a very strong showing for Russia. USA is still #1 in the world, we led the overall medal count for the 4th straight Olympics. For a country that doesn't have a centralized system to train its Olympic athletes and where non-Olympic team sports such as football,basketball, and baseball are king, it's truly remarkable how consistently dominant we've been during the history of the Olympic games. In fact not counting the boycotted '84 games (174) and 1904 (245), this was our strongest showing yet.


I was equally impressed by Great Britain and Australia who rounded up the top 5. I as a little surprised by Germany and France's overall tallies (I expected more), equally surprised by Ukraine's 27, and Italy did about as well as expected. I imagine some of the Europeans countries just took medals from each other in different disciplines, but at the end of the day, virtually all the medals were won by the United States, Europe, and Australia. The East Asians did relatively well, lead by host nation China, and of course South Korea and Japan. Of the 900+ medals, Africa won 40!

And 4 of those were won by white female swimmer Kirsty Coventry, who lives/trains in the USA, but races for Zimbabwe.


I don't have the time to run the numbers, but I bet if someone did the research, we'd find that white athletes probably won 75-80% of all the medals.

 

[Magellan]

Hello

I m french. About the "caste system" : despite the "affirmative action" for black or arabs people, the guys that gained medals for France during these Olympics were mostly 100 % white french !

I read sometimes in this forum that we french don't have any white athletes. In fact, our 90 % black soccer team is losing since 1998 (and it was then 60 or 70 % white). But during the olympics, our blacks mercenaries did nothing in track & field, but pure white french won in lot of other sports.

In fact, these olympics were a disaster for black atheletes in the french team. They did almost nothing ! Pure countrymen harvested the medals !

Some examples. The medias in France made a great deal of Teddy Riner. This black huge guy was promised the gold medal in judoka. Every journalist in France was already loving him and he was already the sweetheart of all the loving-black-white-trash-girl.

Nevermind, he losed !

The same thing happens in other sports. About rugby, Fadela Amara said that rugby was "too white". Fadela Amara is a french-arab official who beneffited of the "affirmative action". Her father was himself a algerian freedom fighter, the kind of guy who killed french people living in Algeria in the 60s. Now she is a high ranking official in France...

Cyclism was also too white for "Le Monde", our biggest newspaper. One of their journalist, an arab guy, dared to write that cyclism was not welcoming enough black and arab "hopes".

... no comment ...

I, as a growing number of people, don't support any more non-white sportsmen.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

Welcome to Caste Football Magellan! Its good to know that people in France are waking up to the discrimination that has been going on against whites in sports and other areas of society.

 

[Guest]

Welcome Magellan! "Pure Countrymen", "loving-black-white-trash-girl" You are going to fit in here nicely. Look forward to your international/french flavored posts. Viva Le France!

 

[screamingeagle]

Welcome Magellan. It is good to see the Europeans are waking up. I was fearful that the only man left in France was Bridget Bardot.

Meanwhile, Castro supports his wrestler. I hope Castro dies painfully, and soon.

 

[Don Wassall]

For those who haven't checked the homepage lately, there's an excellent article by Rudolf Dempsey on the Games. I particularly like these paragraphs:


Even in the decathlon, where the half-Black half-Japanese athlete Bryan Clay won gold, the fact that most of the other top competitors were White and that the sport is still dominated by Whites, shows that the USA would probably get better returns from finding and developing the best White decathletes than in implementing a wide-ranging policy of sporting 'affirmative action,' which discourages White participation but lights up - and also opens up its checkbook - whenever any ethnic talent shows up.

By choosing to develop Black and non-White talent in sports that are clearly more suited to White athletes, the USA sporting establishment has shown a massive lack of ambition and has greatly handicapped itself in the battle to win medals and remain the number one Olympic nation.

In the same way that wide-ranging, exorbitantly expensive attempts to find and develop White world beaters in the 100 meters, 10,000 meters, or table tennis would be mocked, America's attempts to have world-beating Black weightlifters, Black swimmers, Black shot putters, Black wrestlers, Black cyclists, Black high jumpers, Black javelin throwers, and even Black or semi-Black decathletes are ridiculous. Indeed it is nothing more than a severe abuse of the available potential.


Article: http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=8&te amID=0&ID=23306
Edited by: Don Wassall

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

Gymnasts have to be so small to get the right power-to-weight ratio for gymnastics, that they are absolutely terrible all-around athletes.

Only large people can be great athletes by your reasoning. Sure, it helps to be small when attempting the incredible things they do, especially at world class levels. I'm sure they would not have a problem shooting a basketball, running a hundred meters, or swimming a few laps.Anyone who is not an invalid can do that.


Hell, just about everybody can shoot free throw better than many basketball stars. An old man with a little practice could hit 3's and make free throws better than Shaquille O.Neal.


As for running? Unless one is crippled, grossly overweight or in the intensive care unit, it isn't that tough to master.Most olympic sprinters could run like the wind since their childhood. Big deal. It's almost like walking, but at a quicker pace. Either your fast or your not. Better technique and training helps to a degree, but it is not that difficult to master.Nobody could do what gymnasts do without extraordinary physical ability and years of intense training.So many more factors involved, not just putting one foot in front of the other. Yes, I'm simplifying the process, but damn, who the hell can't run. You may not be able to crack 10 -11- 12 seconds, but most athletes can get close. Let's see the same people try to do ANYTHING on the rings, or pommel horse, or any other apparatus with any degree of proficiency.Now that would be interesting to see.


Decathletes are vry good athletes too, of course.

Just found this thread. And I can't believe it, I totally agree with Bart against Nevada, in this interesting argument. Gymnastics is one of my favorites at the Olympics.

First off, I have seen many gymnasts who reach a reasonable height to compete in other sports, at least a height where blacks would be allowed. Darren Sporles an NFL RB is 5'6, Jones-Drew 5'7 and there are more, but Woodhead was much too short at 5'7.5 being white. Michael Chang won the French open in tennis and he was only about 5'8.

I have seen many elite male gymnasts that reach as high as the 5'6-5'10 range, which could make them competitive even in sports like football, at least if they were black. Trindon Holliday the fastest man in college football last year was 5'5, Walter Dix 100 and 200 meter medalist in Beijing was 5'8 I believe. Short people can indeed compete.

IMO 5'6 or above is tall enough to compete in most professional sports if you are truly a freak athlete; strong man contests with no weight classes, basketball (almost always) and volleyball are an exception. Of course in the NBA there is somehow Earl Boykins 5'5 and Mugsey Bouges 5'3. But I have never seen any two person volley ball team world classers that are truely short or a 5'7 strongman winner before.

Wasn't former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson only 5'11 or so. There are a bunch of elite light heavyweights in MMA that are a shade below 6 foot. Heavyweight Fedor the baddest man on the planet is only 6 foot flat. There was a Worlds strongest man winner one year that was 5'11 or something if I recall.

But how short is considered short anyway? An average Caucasian male is now 5'10 and a Chinese one 5'6. I would say 5'6 or below is short, if you are a male. For a female short to me is below 5'0.

Gymnasts are some of the best all-round athletes in the world. They have phenomenal strength, flexibility, quickness, balance, leaping ability, impressive although not world-class speed etc. etc.. And they are fearless to boot!

 

[ToughJ.Riggins]

I think gymnastics are fine. I was on a gymnastics club for a year when I was a kid. This doesn't change the fact that to compete at the highest level, you have to be 5 foot 2 and 120 pounds. In my opinion, this immediately removes Yang Wei from any "greatest athlete" discussion.

But, if you feel that the Chinese men's gymnastics team is the best collection of athletes ever assembled, who am I to argue.

The average height of a gymnast is taller than that by my estimation. 5'2 is probably the average height of a Chinese gymnast as your average Chinese man is only 5'6. Daniel Horton of the U.S this year was 5'7 and probably weighed 145-150 lbs or so. There are 100 meter sprinters in that height, weight range. I think Paul Hamm last year was 5'6. I have seen one elite male gymnast at the 2004 Olympics who was 5'10 for a European country (5'10 is the average height for a white male), but I forget his name. I have definitely never seen an elite male gymnast in the Olympics that has hit 6 foot or taller. There is truth to the fact that they are smaller than average, but not that much smaller.

Nastia Luekin is not much shorter than the average white female. She is 5'3 and I believe the average Caucasian female is 5'5-5'6 or so. Shawn Johnson is very short, she is only 4'9. These are not flyweight boxers Nevada. I agree flyweight boxing is ridiculous. I think it is between 105 and 112 pounds and most of them are about 5'0 or 5'1. That is basically a midget for a male.

Edited to add: I believe if you stuck these Olympic gymnasts on most h.s track teams they could make the team in the short sprints with practice. These guys certainly don't have world class speed, but would be one of the fastest guys at almost any h.s if you sent them back to that level to try out. I would say their quickness is very elite. They are in phenomenal shape and world class athletes in their own right.

Same goes for Michael Phelps, you stick him currently at a typical American h.s, he would be able to make the track team. How about high jumper Stefan Holm? If I recall correctly from his bio, he has run a 11.0x 100 meter before and that isn't even the event he specifically trains for. Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

 

[Bart]

Just found this thread. And I can't believe it, I totally agree with Bart against Nevada, in this interesting argument.

Ahhh, there is hope for you yet .... Grasshopper.

 

[Average American]

With the '14 Winter Olympics startin', figured this thread could use a bump.
I'm looking forward to the men's hockey. US is in prelim group A (with Russia, Slovenia, & Slovakia).

Since the Cold War ended, winter games don't seem as dramatic as they used to be :noidea:

 

[Claimjumper]

3 on 3 ghettoball being added to 2020 games

DWFs rejoice

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/half-court-anyone-3-on-3-basketball-added-to-2020-tokyo-olympics/

 

[DixieDestroyer]

3 on 3 ghettoball being added to 2020 games

DWFs rejoice

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/half-court-anyone-3-on-3-basketball-added-to-2020-tokyo-olympics/

What a load of BS! There are way too many silly events at the "bummer yOympics". Crap like this, ping pong, synchronized swimming, BMX, badminton, handball, sailing & trampoline have NO business in what's supposed to be the "pinnacle" athletic event in the world. Most of that mess is "around the house/yard" type diversions. The summer olympics should be limited to true athletic events like wrestling, track & field, gymnastics, etc...& not 'backyard BBQ' games.

 

[Shadowlight]

Something to be considered that's for damn sure. See below regarding Winter Olympics.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

[TomIron361]

Olympia Part 1 Fest der Völker 1938 with English Subs - YouTube
▶ 2:18:51

Aug 23, 2017 - Uploaded by Travis Odowd
Olympia is a 1938 film by Leni Riefenstahl documenting the 1936 Summer
This is an excellent film. I suggest you start at 16:00. Leni Refinstahl (director and producer) was years ahead of her time in film. Look at the athletes. There's no weight trainers. It's my view that weight training is a bad thing - nothing good comes from weight training. There's far too much injury involved with it. Also, look at the women. Not a beast among them. They're all decent looking women - maybe not movie star beautiful, but nice looking. Enjoy this while you can. you never know when it's be gone into oblivien.