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White Shogun said:
Wow, all kindsa wrong going on there. Taking a gun to a club, taking the gun out at the club (probably to show it to his hangers-on), then hiding the gun and failing to report it. Ordinarily, the ER would report a shooting victim to the police themselves, but Burress street cred must have gotten him out of that one (or did he go directly to the team's medical staff?)


More on the story. Apparently, the people at the club and the hospitaldidn't bother to notify the police. Doctor suspended.


[url]http://www.zimbio.com/Josyann+Abisaab/articles/6/PLAXICO+DOC TOR+TEAMMATE+INVOLVED+GUN+SHOT[/url]
 

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Bart said:
White Shogun said:
Wow, all kindsa wrong going on there. Taking a gun to a club, taking the gun out at the club (probably to show it to his hangers-on), then hiding the gun and failing to report it. Ordinarily, the ER would report a shooting victim to the police themselves, but Burress street cred must have gotten him out of that one (or did he go directly to the team's medical staff?)


More on the story.Apparently, the people at the club and the hospital didn't bother to notify the police.Doctor suspended.


[url]http://www.zimbio.com/Josyann+Abisaab/articles/6/PLAXICO+DOC TOR+TEAMMATE+INVOLVED+GUN+SHOT[/url]

Thanks for the update, Bart. I figured as much.
 

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Looks like the Giants have to be our NFC team this year. 7 or 8 white starters is the best we can hope for now that Green Bay will not be making the playoffs.
 

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Blackburn is and has been the starting WLB at least 3 or 4 weeks now. The Giants have also started 7 whites on offense all year. 8 in total, I guess, is good for the NFL.
 

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All the money in the world for bling, guns, and night clubbing, but not forinsuranceon a 140K Mercedes.Typical black afflete devoid of common sense, and foresight.


[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AoPvrX.feOqq1VS2_AHW3g A5nYcB?slug=ap-burress-crash&prov=ap&type=lgns [/url]


Burress was driving without insurance before crash


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP)â€â€￾Add this to the growing list of Plaxico Burress' problems: getting in a car crash and not having insurance on his nearly $140,000 Mercedes-Benz.


The suspended New York Giants wide receiver was sued last week in Florida's Broward County Circuit Court for rear-ending a woman in May.


Compounding the Super Bowl star's defense, according to a document provided by the woman's attorney, is the fact his car insurance lapsed three days before the crash. A letter from Allstate says Burress neglected to pay his premiums.http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ug=ap-burress-crash&prov=ap&type=lgns
 

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White Shogun said:
I'd like the privilege of carrying a weapon at all times, in all locations, without fear of apprehension by the police - whether it's a night club, church, hospital, or wherever.

Isnt it up to the owner of the Nightclub, church, hospital etc to decide wether they want guns on their property or not? In light of this I do think its a big deal to sneak an illegaly owned weapon into a club.
 

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Giants sign linebacker Rich Scanlon to the team for their playoff run. Obviously he'll likely only be for special teams, but glad he made it anyway.
 

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chris371 said:
White Shogun said:
I'd like the privilege of carrying a weapon at all times, in all locations, without fear of apprehension by the police - whether it's a night club, church, hospital, or wherever.

Isnt it up to the owner of the Nightclub, church, hospital etc to decide wether they want guns on their property or not? In light of this I do think its a big deal to sneak an illegaly owned weapon into a club.

As far as I know most limitations are made by statute not by establishment, although some businesses try to circumvent state concealed carry law and forbid carry in places that not specifically prohibited by statute.

If your state permits concealed carry, any class you take to obtain the permit should be able to explain your states specific nuances.
 

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Perhaps there is a little justice in the caste world in which we are forced to live. Maybe what happened to Burress was all too fitting and symbolic, in that he was handed everything, and Farmer was handed nothing.

As many here know, Danny Farmer was also drafted (4th round and cut) by the Bill Cowturd Steelers the same year as Burress....Farmer had twice the vertical, twice the hands, and ran a very similar 40 time as this spoiled 1st round pick.

After Burress played horribly with the Steelers, he was once again handed a new contract (and starting spot) from the Giants. By this time, Farmer had become a distant memory to anyone outside of UCLA or castefootball. For once, this evil caste-deed did not go unpunished.

Now, Burress, who is currently 31, will be nearly 35 years old when he's released from prison. I would like to hope his career is over....and that Danny Farmer is laughing as his once jewel-incrusted, wienery teammate goes behind bars.
 

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More Burress stuff:


Burress in court over car damage


<CITE =source>Associated Press
</CITE>HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Plaxico Burress is in court again.


A trial is scheduled to begin Wednesday in Pennsylvania to determine how much the New York Giants wide receiver will have to pay in damages for a car he leased before it was impounded by the New York City police.


Court papers say a Lebanon County car dealer allowed Burress in 2006 to borrow a 2004 Chevrolet Avalanche worth more than $36,000 in exchange for Burress agreeing to sign autographs at promotional events.


"I thought it would be good for my business," the dealer, Frederick Laurenzo, said in an interview Tuesday.


Laurenzo's civil complaint says Burress never showed up to sign autographs and did not return the car. Laurenzo also says the car was seized by New York City police after Burress let someone else use it.


The complaint did not disclose the extent of the damage to the vehicle, to whom Burress loaned the vehicle or the reason police impounded it.


Burress' lawyer Matthew T. Croslis said he did not want to elaborate on the details of the case.


Croslis acknowledged Tuesday that Burress is responsible for some damage to the car, but said the jury will have to decide how much.


The star receiver who caught the game-winning pass in last year's Super Bowl was charged with two counts of illegal weapons possession after he accidentally shot himself in the right thigh at a Manhattan nightclub on Nov. 29.


After the self-inflicted shooting, the Giants suspended Burress, 31, for the remainder of the season.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830168
 
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I would love to see Plaxico's IQ score, high school and college academic records, and ACT and/or SAT scores. I strongly suspect that they are all low and that he was admitted to my alma mater, Michigan State University, as a football player, not a true student. As much as i like college sports, the double standard for athletes, especially blacks, is a disgrace.
 

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I would love to see Plaxico's IQ score, high school and college academic records, and ACT and/or SAT scores.

I would also love to see your average CBs, HBs, and WRs, scores to. Most of them probably are really low. Most of these guys were just sent to school to play ball. I'll bet Terrel Owens couldn't name 3 Presidents besides Bush and Clinton. I'd also would like to know how many of these guys have done drugs before.
 

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Those crazy,dysfunctionalNegroes. The player who gets promoted after the team's star receiver is suspended and later shot, is likewise shot. No wonder White people are labeled as "dull":
<H1>Giants WR Biddle shot in hand, leg</H1>


DECATUR, Ala. (AP) -- New York Giants receiver Taye Biddle is recovering from gunshot wounds to his hand and leg after being shot while visiting family in his hometown.


Decatur police said in a statement Thursday that Biddle was shot outside a residence and was treated and released from a hospital. Police said there was no evidence Biddle caused or provoked the shooting.


"He had surgery on his hand today," Biddle's friend, Bruce Jones, told The Decatur Daily Thursday. "He told me his leg is OK, and he ought to be fine."


The 25-year-old Biddle grew up in Decatur and played college football at the University of Mississippi.


Police have not made any arrests in the case.


Biddle was promoted from the Giants' practice squad after receiver Plaxico Burress was suspended for a game in September.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/22/gia nts.biddle.ap/index.htmlEdited by: Don Wassall
 

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This article doesn't mention Burress' "wilding" incident in Virginia Beach, when he and some friends were strutting up and down sidewalks, beating up every white person they encountered, but it's still an amazing compilation even for an afflete. I highlighted what his lawyer said. It's the exact same thing you always hear announcers saying about blacks.
<H1>Burress sued at least nine times</H1>


NEW YORK (AP) -- To Richard Malin, Plaxico Burress wasn't a customer, he was an ordeal.


It was 2002 when Burress, then playing for the Steelers, hired Malin, a home inspector, to look over a house he was buying in suburban Pittsburgh.


Malin quoted Burress a price of just under $500 and got the job.


He should've turned it down, Malin now says.


When it came time to pay the bill, Burress disappeared. He didn't respond to phone calls or letters. Malin appealed to one of the star's handlers for help, but still no payment. Malin filed a lawsuit, Burress ignored it.


After a judge ruled against the no-show NFL player, he sent Malin a check for $700.


"I got a note from Plaxico saying, 'Sorry for the inconvenience. Please inform the court that the judgment has been paid,"' Malin said.


"Then the check bounced."


It is a familiar story for the 31-year-old New York Giants wide receiver. Now facing felony gun charges after he accidentally shot himself in the leg with an .40-caliber Glock at a Manhattan nightclub, Burress has a history of being sued over debts a millionaire professional athlete seemingly could have paid. The Associated Press found that, since Burress joined the NFL in 2000, he has been sued at least nine times by people who said he failed to pay a debt, damaged their car or didn't pay his taxes.


The people seeking payment from the football star run the gamut, from a Pennsylvania homeowners association trying to collect delinquent dues to a Florida woman whose car Burress rear-ended while driving without insurance. Why? He hadn't paid the premium.


The pattern of irresponsible behavior extends beyond unpaid debts, records show.


In his hometown of Virginia Beach, Va., Burress has been fined for reckless driving, noise and public intoxication, and threatened with arrest after he didn't show up in court. Last year in Florida, where he has a home, police twice cited Burress for speeding in the weeks before the car crash, which also earned him a ticket for careless driving. Police visited his house in Totowa, N.J., twice last year on domestic dispute calls. His wife was granted temporary restraining orders both times, only to later request they be lifted, according to court records.


Burress faces a March 31 court date stemming from the November shooting, an incident that has jeopardized his future with the New York Giants, who in September gave Burress a $35 million contract extension. The Giants suspended Burress for the final four games of the season and the incident has cost him $2 million in income, though the NFL players' union has filed two grievances.


His defenders say the trail of legal woes does not define Burress.


"He happens to be a great kid. He really is a good kid," said Adam Swickle, Burress' lawyer in Florida. Swickle said any suggestion that Burress is chronically irresponsible because of his wealth and status "is 100 percent incorrect."


Swickle said there was nothing remarkable about the Florida car accident.


"It's a fender bender," he said. "Those things happen to people. Until this New York thing, I always thought of him as a very law abiding person."


Efforts to reach Burress were unsuccessful. He did not respond to an e-mail sent to him on Monday. His New York attorney, Benjamin Brafman, declined to comment for this story, citing the pending weapons charges. His agent did not return several phone calls.


Although Burress' creditors say they don't enjoy going to court to collect, he usually pays up, even if it takes a lawsuit or judge to persuade him.


But the list of people left fuming after doing business with Burress is a long one.


"This is a history of him just doing anything he wants to do," said Brian Van Dusen, a Pittsburgh nightlife promoter who sued Burress in 2005 over a debt.


Van Dusen said he had a falling out with Burress midway through the 2004 season, his last in Pittsburgh before he signed with the Giants as a free agent.


The two men had been partners in staging a series of Monday night parties at a Pittsburgh bar featuring Steelers stars, but at some point, according to the promoter, Burress stopped paying his share of the bills. Finally, Van Dusen presented him with an invoice.


"He was drinking. He was talking to the girls. And he ripped it, balled it up, and threw it across the bar!" Van Dusen said. The two men nearly got in a fight, but Van Dusen said he took Burress to court instead and won a judgment when Burress didn't show up for trial. Van Dusen said he ultimately collected only a portion of his expenses.


In the beginning, Van Dusen said, "We were cool. We would hang out. But he just got too big, in his head. Just because you're from the NFL, it doesn't mean you can do anything every which way."


The amounts of the unpaid bills typically have not been large, but that has made no difference when it came time for Burress to pay. In 2002, a Virginia Beach homeowners association sued for $440 in dues. In March 2003, another homeowners association in Moon Township, Pa., sought $890. The school district there sued Burress a few months later for $2,745 in unpaid taxes.


In September of that year, a Tampa auto body shop, German Autohaus, filed suit over an unpaid account. A judge ruled against Burress when he again failed to appear in court.


Once the suits were filed, the cases were settled and paid.


But the pattern didn't end. In March 2005, Burress left the Steelers as a free agent and signed a $25 million contract to play for the Giants.


A few months later, a Pennsylvania car dealer loaned him a sport utility vehicle and said in exchange Burress promised to make publicity appearances at the dealership and sign autographs. But the dealer never got it in writing.


Less than a month later, the truck wound up impounded by New York police.


Two men were arrested, including Burress' cousin, after officers saw someone in the truck firing guns into the air. The case against the cousin was dropped. The other man pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and was sentenced to time served. Burress signed a statement saying he was at football practice at the time.


Car dealer Frederick Laurenzo spent months trying to get the vehicle back. He spent years trying to get Burress to pay for damage to the truck.


Not surprisingly, the matter landed in court.


"It was the only way I could get him to come here," Laurenzo said. "If he had called and was stand-up about it, man-to-man, it never would have happened. But he wouldn't take my calls."


Laurenzo said he's done similar deals with other professional athletes and never had a problem.


"He's a very likable man, and I wish this had never happened," he said. "But when someone hangs up on you, doesn't return your calls, you get angry. If we could've just talked for two minutes on the phone ... but it was like he was pretending he didn't know me."


In January, a jury ordered Burress to pay $1,700.


In the Giants' Super Bowl victory in 2008, Burress made the game-winning catch, making him an even bigger football hero.


At the same time his team was on its playoff run in late 2007, Burress was $14,471 behind on the local taxes on his house in Virginia Beach, according to city records. That bill has since been paid, city officials said.


After his accident in Florida in May 2008, Burress was sued by the woman he hit after she learned he didn't have car insurance. Allstate said it let his policy lapse because he had neglected to pay his premiums. The case is pending.


Swickle acknowledged Burress has picked up some tickets over the years, but noted that the citations have been relatively minor.


"No drunk driving offenses. No drugs in the car," he said. "Even collectively, I don't see it as a problem."


Even some of his civil court adversaries don't view Burress as a bad person, just an irresponsible one.


"I think he was just an immature screwup," Malin said. The home inspector eventually collected $700 from Burress -- after three years, a bounced check and a lawsuit. The courts couldn't even close the case. Malin said he got paid after a friendly sheriff's deputy with a connection to the Steelers intervened.


Laurenzo is still waiting for his money, but he says he's not too worried.


"I hope he gets his life straightened out and he comes back and plays for the Giants. I love watching him play, he's one of the most gifted wide receivers in the league. If he gets his life straightened out, he could have it all."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/09/pla xico.ap/index.htmlEdited by: Don Wassall
 
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"He happens to be a great kid. He really is a good kid." I can't count the number of times I have seen quotes like these over the last 40 years.
 

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one wonders what it takes for a black individual to NOT be a great person...

it must be extreme, because even blacks who commit murder are often said to be great people who "just made a mistake."
 

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It's well documented that black people are on average very socialable and outgoing. Often they present a very likable personna when you meet them in person. Standardized tests for social interaction have long shown this to be true, as does most personal experience.

Unfortunately the likeabilty factor is often combined with the pathological criminal side. So you have a situation where someone you have met in person or seen on TV seems like a "great person" which in many cases they may actually be--except that at other times they are no-good rotten bastards.

I've seen this with white people too, of course, just the percentage of black people like this is much, much higher.

Personally, I absolutly do not trust black people, and the nicer they are the less I trust them. I will deal with them when I have to, and am cordial and polite when necessary as with anyone else.

I have never regretted it.
 

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Well, what would you expect from a mediathat tried tosuggest former Nebraska and LA Rams RB Lawrenece Phillips was a "nice kid."


Perennial caste crybaby Dick Vermeilwas proud to sob like a woman in defense of Phillips in front of the entire country.Other than Pacman Jones, I'd say Phillips was by far the most criminally prone thug / moron to ever play in the NFL.Then again,Leonard Little and Ray Lewis did murderpeople (and easily got away with it, obviously).


It's not too shocking that caste turds within the Giants organization want Plaxico back. Even Eli Manning publicly gushed about how much he'd love to have Burris back in uniform next season. It's not too shocking or alarming that a big-name white QB would "tow the caste line." Brett Favre did it all the time.Ben Roethlisberger is beginning to act the same way. All the while, real men like Joe Montana have publicly stated how much they wouldnt tolerate the childish actions of Terrell Owens.


This season, Eli also appeared in perhaps the most blatantly racist "skit" ever to be featured on sports television (Maine Event on ESPN). The skit featured Jamaican sprinter, Usain Bolt, as he was "trying out" for the Giants. Kenny Maine (or some other bigot) asked: "What's football speed?" Then, Eli and the others mythodically chanted "It's when slow ass white guys play one of thesafety positions!"Not only was it in-your-face racism, it wasstrangely written, vulgar,and very strangely acted-out.


I wonderhow Craig Dahl, one ofthe "slow-ass white guys" who played safety on the sameteam asEli, felt abouthis QB saying something so stupid and ignorant on national TV (Sunday NFL Countdown).


I don't mean to "call out" Eli for this caste "comedy skit," because like most white players, I'm sure he was just doingwhat was "best" for their team / the NFL.Edited by: Thrashen
 

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Wow and that skit didn't even really seem funny. At least if you are going to do some stereotyping skit make it funny. As a writer I made a joke one time in a college party movie script of a negative stereotype of white people, other than that I only fight stereotyping of whites even in comic form when I bring stereotyping up. I just couldn't resist one time b/c it was a very funny situation of an argument between a black guy and a nerdy white kid. I don't want to give the scene away, but it was funny.

If I ever make it as a comedy writer; I plan on fighting negative stereotyping of white people in athletics as much as I can.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 

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anybody know what craig dahl is up to? he's still on the roster on the giants website. the giants seemed to have put a good amount of effort into developing him but he blew out both his acl's in seperate seasons. I hope he gets a 3rd chance, but putting race aside, that might be too many chances for any player in the nfl.
 

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Taco said:
anybody know what craig dahl is up to? he's still on the roster on the giants website. the giants seemed to have put a good amount of effort into developing him but he blew out both his acl's in seperate seasons. I hope he gets a 3rd chance, but putting race aside, that might be too many chances for any player in the nfl.

I can't disagree with that statement.

The one thing I can add is the the Giants currently only have 2 safeties on the roster. Kenny Phillips and Michael Johnson. I would expect them to draft 1 but probably not 2. So there is a good chance, if healthy, that Dahl could compete for a roster spot.
 

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I'm kind of surprised that nobody here at CF mentioned the Plaxico Burris conviction and 2-year prison sentence.

It's really great to see another one of god's chosen, spoiled rotten athletes shoot themselves in the foot...I mean leg.

Danny Farmer, a guy with twice the athleticm / heart / hands and equal speed, was drafted the same year and given no chance by Bill Cowturd and company. Farmer should have been Randy Moss with better hands an even higher verticle leap.

I hope Farmer smiled and found some sort of solice when he heard this great news. Have a gay old time in prison, you wanna-be thug!
 

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i may be in the minority here, but i hate the verdict/conviction.

i'm a STRONG proponent of the 2nd Amendment, and i feel that all American citizens should have the right to carry a loaded weapon any time and anywhere they choose, as long as they aren't felons. so i hate seeing anyone, even a dumb thug like Burress convicted of carrying an unlicensed firearm, because i don't think you should have to be licensed to carry. i firmly believe that our draconian firearm legislation is a HUGE problem that will only become worse as our gov't becomes ever more Orwellian and socialistic.

i think the only punishment Burress should suffer, aside from being a fool who shot himself andthe associated ridicule and pain that goes along with it, would be forthe unlawful discharge of a weapon.
 

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I'm with you Jimmy.
 
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