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Here's an article on the growth of the Caste System's recruiting industry. Rivals.com alone claims 180,000 paid subscribers.


The article states that the rankings of high school players by the services are "arbitrary," but elsewhere in the Post-Gazette's sports page today they list how five what they call "experts" (Rivals, Scout.com, ESPN, Tom Lemming and Super Prep) have ranked this year's recruiting classes. All five have Florida number one, with the rest of the top ten being essentially the same programs in slightly different orders -- USC, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, Auburn, Michigan, etc.


The booming recruiting industry is "ground zero" when it comes to keeping the Caste System firmly in placein the NFL's"farm system" of major I-A programs.
<H2>National Signing Day: Following prospects becomes big business</H2>
<H3>Recruiting services booming on Internet</H3>


Thursday, February 08, 2007


By Colin Dunlap, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


When the hard numbers about interest in college football recruiting are revealed, the yield is staggering.


And there's no arguing that interest has paralleled the growth of the Internet. What once was a cottage industry has become big business.


"As far as subscribers, we have more than 180,000," said Bobby Burton, editor in chief of Rivals.com, a popular network of more than 100 college Web sites with a large focus on recruiting.


Allen Wallace, national recruiting analyst for Scout.com and publisher of Super Prep magazine, remembers when it wasn't like this, when the sometimes maniacal subculture of "recruitniks" wasn't as big or rabid as it is now.


"I first got into the business in 1985," he said. "Those were the days when there were only magazines and that was also when you wrote everything down on a yellow legal pad and kept all your notes on there.


"Now, with the Internet, well, frankly, I don't know if anyone could have envisioned the interest in recruiting growing to where it is today."


Representatives from Rivals.com and Scout.com said they expected in excess of 50 million hits on their sites yesterday, college football's national letter of intent day, when high school prospects make their college choices official.


Assuming those claims are factual, and working off exactly 50 million hits, Rivals.com and Scout.com would have received 34,722 hits per minute during a 24-hour span.


In 1993, Burton started Rivals.com because he identified an audience that wanted to know increasingly more about high school prospects potentially heading to their favorite college football program.


The growth has stunned Burton, a Texan who heads the Tennessee-based company that offers monthly memberships for $9.95 and yearly memberships for $99.95.


"I remember in 1997, we were unbelievably happy we hit 5,000 subscribers," he said. "Now, though, the growth is indescribable."


Burton's site, like most, ranks prospects on a star system, offers message boards and attempts to break news on high school players in terms of which college or colleges they might be favoring.


Tom Luginbill, a former quarterback at Georgia Tech and Eastern Kentucky, is the national recruiting director for ESPN's Scouts Inc., another site that evaluates high school players. Luginbill knows the value in such Internet sites, but he also understands there can be a dark side.


"Is the Internet a problem in some regards in recruiting? Yes," Luginbill said. "Often times, at certain sites, claims are not legitimate and can be egregiously wrong. Some people are in a position where they never shed any negative light on certain young men and you have to understand that they are being subjective because they could be aligned with certain college programs."


Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Bruce Gradkowski has an interesting outlook on the exponential growth of recruiting coverage. A 2001 Seton-LaSalle High School graduate, he has a brother, Gino, a senior at the same high school, who signed with West Virginia yesterday. Bruce remembers a lukewarm feeling prospects had about the recruiting Web sites in 2001 and sees now, through Gino, how it has skyrocketed.


"The Internet has grown so much with recruiting, even in the short time it has been since I came out of Seton-LaSalle," Gradkowski said. "I know my brother and his friends look at those rankings all the time, and they read all the stuff on there about recruiting.


"Gino showed me one time where he was one of the top guards in the country in those rankings, and I think it honestly pushed Gino harder to maybe boost his ranking a little."


In the end, the rankings on such sites are arbitrary, which the people associated with such sites readily admit. They also aren't taken into consideration or under advisement by college coaches. But they make for great fodder and banter between fans.


"The reality is that [Texas coach] Mack Brown or [Florida coach] Urban Meyer or [Penn State coach] Joe Paterno or [Pitt coach] Dave Wannstedt couldn't care less if we rank a guy a two-, three-, four-, or five-star recruit, it doesn't matter to those guys one bit," said Burton, in his signature Texas twang.


"Those coaches need to find the best recruit that fits their program because that recruit, directly, could impact whether that coach has a job a few years down the road.


"But, in saying that, there are a whole lot of people in front of their computers who have a huge interest in what we do."


The numbers prove it.


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07039/760372-365.stmEdited by: Don Wassall
 

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David Ball and Anthony Gonzalez were the only white WRs invited to the Combine besidesJeff Samardzija. Draft Daddy's top 50 Combine snubs on offense has four white receivers listed -- Scott Mayle of Ohio U., Chad Schroeder of Texas A&amp;M, Johnny Quinn of North Texas, and Patrick Bugg of Eastern Kentucky.
 

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Rivals.com and Scout.Inc are the breeding forces behind the black athletic superiority myth. These stupid fans out there actually think scouts.inc is run by real scouts when in reality they are a bunch of overweight white guys drooling over their black primadonna players and ranking players by how athletic they look. Which we all know what that means.
 
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whiteCB said:
...Which we all know what that means.

To quote Beavis, "Boinnnnng"
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On a more substantive level, your observation is spot-on; a dear friend of mine from Romania once correctly identified the anti-White and anti-male media bombardment as sheer Marxist propaganda. And you can see it's effect on all the sheep-like White fans who have sold their souls to the caste myth.
(Sadly, one of the lambs-to-the-slaughter is a relative; no matter how often I smack him with the truth, he simply refuses to accept facts. When I have provided plentiful examples of great White athletes, he falls silent. I'm sorry to say it, but the man is a fool.)
 

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A few dribs and drabs.
Jesse Wendt out of small Wisconsin is big--6'3 and 230 and fast 4.4 speed. Something tells me he will shoot up the boards.
Also interested in combine 40 times of Drew Stanton and Tyler Palko. Too bad Schroeder was not invited to the combine. My guess is he will run a blistering 4.3 at A&M pro day. Bugg, Quinn and Mayle could also run well.
 

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you guys help!!!!! rational white people want Joe Thomas at the #2 pick for the dispicable Detroit Lions. Is there substance behind the hype( i Know none of us really know). That's who i want.


But totally overrated Kevin Jones is supposed to be out for half of next year, so the momentum of the local "caste elite" is building for a HB (adrian petrson, ughh!) at that pick. Dudes, don't they realize you can get those affaletes at half-back anywhere!! I say bring on Joe Thomas, and Kevin Curtis, but we'll see because this team has a darn CURSE on it.
 

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East European said:
you guys help!!!!! rational white people want Joe Thomas at the #2 pick for the dispicable Detroit Lions. Is there substance behind the hype( i Know none of us really know). That's who i want.


But totally overrated Kevin Jones is supposed to be out for half of next year, so the momentum of the local "caste elite" is building for a HB (adrian petrson, ughh!) at that pick . Dudes, don't they realize you can get those affaletes at half-back anywhere!! I say bring on Joe Thomas, and Kevin Curtis, but we'll see because this team has a darn CURSE on it.
The Lions failure to win isn't a curse it's incompetance plain and simple. The Ford family has driven that team into the ground,the same as the car company that their great-grandfather founded. When you have dynastic rule in modern companies many times the juniors and the III'ds have so little DNA in common withe their brilliant ancestors that you have instances like Paris Hilton making porn videos and William Clay Ford having incompetent GM's drafting number one wideouts that don't like to exercise or break their collarbones every year.......
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I agree.


But thats how we tie it up in a nice little bow. A curse.


where the "lions" go wrong is seemingly endless and we we from this area can be catergorized as numb. theyare anembarrasment x10.
 

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Don Wassall said:
David Ball and Anthony Gonzalez were the only white WRs invited to the Combine besides Jeff Samardzija.  Draft Daddy's top 50 Combine snubs on offense has four white receivers listed -- Scott Mayle of Ohio U., Chad Schroeder of Texas A&M, Johnny Quinn of North Texas, and Patrick Bugg of Eastern Kentucky.

If those other guys were invited, most of the top 40 times would be held by white athletes. Can't have that.
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whiteCB said:
Rivals.com and Scout.Inc are the breeding forces behind the black athletic superiority myth. These stupid fans out there actually think scouts.inc is run by real scouts when in reality they are a bunch of overweight white guys drooling over their black primadonna players and ranking players by how athletic they look. Which we all know what that means.

Good point indeed partner. Although these recruiting sites are accurate on alotta players, they do love to lionize the "great African-American" athlete. However, the #1 player the past two years has been a white kid (Clausen this year & UGA's Matt Stafford last year).
 

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Draft Daddy was defending their position that E.Weddle is a cornerback.This site is as fair as they come.They even said that skin color has nothing to do with a players ability!
 

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All of the mock drafts I've seen now have Jamarcus Russell as the #1 overall pick and Joe Thomas going #2 to Detroit. Meanwhile, Brady Quinn is falling down to #8 or 9 depending on your source. Joke.

All of the caste experts are larding on the usual platitudes regarding Russell. Drooling over his size as if he were a lineman and prattling on about his "upside." Seems to me that saying a player has great upside is just another way of saying he's unpolished and probably not ready for the NFL.

As for the Lions I don't know who they'll pick. No one saw the Ernie Sims pick coming last year so who knows what they'll do. Joe Thomas would be a solid pick but he's a left tackle and the Lions already have a left tackle in Jeff Backus so they would have to move Thomas to right tackle.
 

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Poacher said:
All of the mock drafts I've seen now have Jamarcus Russell as the #1 overall pick and Joe Thomas going #2 to Detroit. Meanwhile, Brady Quinn is falling down to #8 or 9 depending on your source. Joke.

All of the caste experts are larding on the usual platitudes regarding Russell. Drooling over his size as if he were a lineman and prattling on about his "upside." Seems to me that saying a player has great upside is just another way of saying he's unpolished and probably not ready for the NFL.

As for the Lions I don't know who they'll pick. No one saw the Ernie Sims pick coming last year so who knows what they'll do. Joe Thomas would be a solid pick but he's a left tackle and the Lions already have a left tackle in Jeff Backus so they would have to move Thomas to right tackle.

First of all, your second paragraph SAYS IT ALL!!! And on top of that, Quinn being place six to eight spots under Russell is a travesty, but this means Quinn should end up on a little better team, who needs a good QB.

You know what they (whoever those "they" people are) say: Everything happens for a reason, but sometimes it takes us longer than we'd like to figure out why.
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I am sure Andrew Walter has very comparable arm strength to Russell in regards to throwing the deep ball. Plenty of players can throw the long ball but it does not mean that they will be good NFL QBs. For a guy of Russels size he gets injured alot and holds onto the ball. He also gets alot of the credit even though his team was surrounded with talent so its not like he carried the team. Russell will be a mediocre QB at the next level.
 

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some stuff on SI.com that surprised me a lot:

1. they rate Brian Leonard as number 1 player with most to gain at the combine, saying that if he displays sub 4.5 speedhe might sleep into the first round!
Number 3 on this list is Paul Posluszny and number 4 is Adam Carriker

2. top sleeper according to SI is John Wendling, who they believe might easily get picked amongst top 75 if he displays good speed, which is very likely!
 

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This weekend is it, the combine. The wonderlic etc. start today I believe.. hmm I wonder which players will score highest on the thest..
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So what if JaMarcus Russell can throw the ball 85 yards, how many times does a NFL qb ever even get the oppotunity to throw a ball that far. I just can't believe that this guy will be taken over Brady Quinn. The good news is the Cleveland Browns may take Quinn and since I am stuck living up here in northeast Ohio, it will give me a reason to root for them besides Joe Jurevicious.
 

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Having arm strength is a very imortant part of being a Quarter back if not Ty Detmer would be a star. i don't see why every one is saying arm sterngth is not important because it is. Of coarse you don't have to have a rocket arm to be a great Qb, but if you do it realy realy helps. No one says John Elway and Dan Marino would werent benifited by there Rocket arms.
 

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I'm hoping if the Raiders being the idiots that they are take Russel, then I want Quinn to go to the Dolphins. I have to believe the new coach Cam Cameron will want a white boy over the lame duck gimp Culpupper, thus ending the Culpepper experiment once and for all
 

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Russell just heaves the ball. He has no real accuracy. He has benefitted from a really good receiver corps at LSU. What good is a "cannon-rocket" arm that can't pinpoint its passes? Thesescattergunblacks are of no use in the NFL and will quickly be exposed. Edited by: Colonel_Reb
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
Russell just heaves the ball. He has no real accuracy. He has benefitted from a really good receiver corps at LSU. What good is a "cannon-rocket" arm that can't pinpoint its passes? Thesescattergunblacks are of no use in the NFL and will quickly be exposed.


Right you are. I still, even after the Super Bowl, read nonsense about how Peyton Manning can't throw a deep ball. They either don't watch the Colts play, or what they see is incapable of registering in their Caste indoctrinated minds.


Who would you rather have throwing long passes down the field, Peyton Manning or any of the battalion of black QBs who the media ritually claims have "cannon arms"?
 

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Peyton Manning Is probable the the best or seconed best at makeing every throw in football he's so good its rediculous. Jammarcus Russel looked good in every game I saw him in.
 

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I want the Jags to get a good QB. Quinn will be gone by the time they pick in the 1st, but maybe they'll get Drew Stanton in the second round. Matt Jones needs a dominant QB to make him into a white Randy Moss type that he has the potential to be. Also, does anyone other than me think this is an abnormally good year for white players at speed postions or is this what happens every year before they get screwed?Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
 
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