Pittsburgh Steelers General Thread

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  1. Extra Point

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    The reports are that the Steelers got Schobert for a 6th round draft pick. If so this is a steal for one of the top inside linebackers in the league. Schobert is good against the run and the pass.

    This trade reflects badly on both the Jaguars but on other teams in the league who had an opportunity to trade for Schobert. Some teams may not have been able to acquire him because of cap issues but other teams could have.

    Whites have been so devalued so much in the NFL and by the MSM, that even pro bowl caliber white players now have little value.
     
  2. Leonardfan

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    Great post. I totally agree with everything said. Even with undeniable productivity on the field the Jaguars deemed Schobert expendable. Meanwhile the perennially overrated Miles Jack remains entrenched as a starting LB for Jacksonville.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    This article on the Schobert trade makes it obvious what Meyer is doing without saying it explicitly. Damien Wilson has played six seasons in the NFL, mostly as a backup and isn't anywhere close to being as productive as Joe when he does start. But he has the "locker room vibe" that Meyer wants. Most fans are clueless about how important the "locker room vibe" is when it comes to the Caste System:

    The football X-and-O theories about why the Jacksonville Jaguars were willing to give former Pro Bowl linebacker Joe Schobert to the Steelers for a meager sixth-round draft choice have been well-discussed. The premise is that new Jags general manager Trent Baalke and head coach Urban Meyer didn’t see Schobert as fit for defensive coordinator Joe Cullen’s scheme.

    The reasoning advanced in some publications that I’ve read is that the organization didn’t feel as if Schobert was a good enough run support player next to fellow Jaguars inside linebacker Myles Jack and that there was too much roster redundancy there. Essentially, Meyer and Cullen want former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Damien Wilson to be a run-stuffing hammer, while Jack patrols sideline-to-sideline. And they are more intrigued about the futures (and cost efficiency) of second-year linebacker Shaquille Quarterman and Alabama rookie Dylan Moses.

    So, as a rebuilding franchise, Jacksonville deemed Schobert’s $7.35 million salary cap hit to be expendable. Hence, the willingness to part with him for so little after ousted Jags general manager Dave Caldwell signed the former Cleveland Browns standout to a $53.75 million contract just one year ago. As Jamal St. Cyr of News4Jax pointed out on Tuesday’s “Breakfast With Benz” podcast, since the previous regime of Caldwell and ex-head coach Doug Marrone brought Schobert to Jacksonville, new management didn’t have any attachment to that investment.

    “Joe Schobert wasn’t one of their guys,” St. Cyr said of Meyer and Baalke. “They didn’t bring him in. And they made it very clear that they wanted a very particular type of person. … They felt like Damien Wilson fit the defense and the locker room vibe a little bit better. So they figured while they could get something back, to go ahead and make that move.” https://triblive.com/sports/joe-schoberts-personality-may-have-factored-into-to-trade-to-steelers/
     
  4. HaywoodZarathustra

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    "they wanted a very particular type of person".
     
  5. Bucky

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    Urban wanted somebody a "little more urban". I hope the Jaguars suck, too bad Lawrence ended up there..

    Helluva steal for The Steelers though!
     
  6. Leonardfan

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    Thanks for that article and breakdown Don. It explicitly lays out the caste system and proves its existence. “Lurkers take note”.
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    Starters to open the season for the 2021 Pittsburgh Steelers:

    QB: Ben Roethlisberger
    FB: Derek Watt (rarely used is primarily a star WSTD)
    TE: Pat Freiermuth (is listed as a co-starter along with Eric Ebron on the Steelers official site)

    LOLB: T. J. Watt (finally signed for the big bucks he was seeking)
    RILB: Joe Schobert

    Total number of White starters: 4.5, more like 3.5 given how little Derek Watt is utilized

    There are only 7 other White players on the 53 man roster: QB Mason Rudolph, Center J. C. Hassenauer, utility o-lineman B. J. Finney, tackle Joe Haeg, TE Zach Gentry, ILB Robert Spillane, and K Chris Boswell. The punter is a Black rookie, Pressley Harvin.

    Grade: F+ (debated whether to give the + or not, but decided to since the Steelers have two starting White LBs)
     
  8. Leonardfan

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    Still can’t believe Haskins made the team and Sexton is a street free agent.
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    The Steelers DWFs will clamor for Haskins if Big Ben retires at the end of the season. In fact, they'd clamor for Josh Dobbs over Rudolph if he was still on the team. I've been following the Caste NFL for a looooooong time and I don't think there's another city where White quarterbacks have been treated as poorly as in Pittsburgh, starting with the Terry Bradshaw era in the 1970s all the way through to Big Ben.
     
  10. Freethinker

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    Considering Ben’s age and the all-ebony line in front of him, I doubt he makes it through a full 17 game season. If he has to miss a game or three, would they go to Randolph or would Tonkin call on his “soul brotha” to take the reigns? Time will tell…
     

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