Jared Abbrederis

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  1. bearclaw500

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    Good article on Jared.

    Ten years later, Wisconsin receiver on fire again

    Jared Abbrederis might have found his destiny around age 10, but it took the Wisconsin standout receiver a while to truly discover it.
    In those Pop Warner years, the quick, soft-handed Abbrederis could "catch anything," he said, then take off down the field like he was on fire and running for water.
    Soon, however, he switched positions, playing quarterback in high school. There weren't many college offers and just as it seemed like football would be a hobby for Abbrederis, he began to focus on track and field, using his speed and athleticism to hurdle his way to two state championships.
    A decade removed from Pop Warner, after eschewing scholarships from Division II schools and walking on to Wisconsin's campus to play the game he loved, the redshirt junior's natural talents have resurfaced. Heading into the Badgers game against the Gophers on Saturday, Abbrederis has become the No. 1 receiving threat on a team that's gone 2-1 in the Big Ten.
    As Abbrederis explodes downfield now, seeing the talent he's always had is simple. After all, the receiver leads the conference in receiving yards per game (93.2), and became the first Wisconsin player to record three consecutive 100-yard receiving games since Lee Evans did it in 2001. In a slightly changed offense from a year ago under new coordinator Matt Canada, Abbrederis has proven capable of making dynamic plays and racking up enough yards to lead the league (559), despite missing a game and a half because of a concussion.

    But Badgers' coach Bret Bielema swears he noticed a sparkle from the start.
    "You know what? I had a special feeling about him that first semester," Bielema said. "He really hadn't been in a receiver position, but you could see a gutsy performer, a guy that played every day."
    At that point, Abbrederis weighed "150 pounds, soaking wet," Bielema said. The Wautoma, Wis., native started his Wisconsin career as the spread quarterback on the scout team.
    "The first year, I didn't get a lot of snaps," the 6-2, 185-pound Abbrederis said. "But then the spring came by and I had a couple opportunities to make plays, and I was able to make them, and I kind of got my foot in the offense a little."
    He impressed to the point that the Badgers decided he was valuable enough to try to move elsewhere. Bielema told him he could pick between wide receiver and defensive back. For Abbrederis the choice was clear.
    He ran extra routes with the quarterbacks in the winter. Ten years removed from snagging passes and running like he was on fire, his natural skills were rusty.
    "That was frustrating for me, to have good hands and lose them kind of, but I just had to work real hard to get them back," Abbrederis said. "After that spring, I knew I could play, so I started setting more goals, maybe getting in the rotation. And after I got in the rotation, it was keep improving on the things that will make you better, make you into one of the best in the Big Ten.
    "Once you reach a goal, you set a new one. And once you set goals, you've got to accomplish them."
    With that kind of resolve, it's no surprise in his third year he's doing just that, even if he said he never thought the success would "come nearly this good."
    "I've got a lot of respect for the young man," Minnesota coach Jerry Kill said. "He deserves every amount of credit that he gets. ... You can't have enough guys like him playing the game of football."
    In January, Wisconsin awarded Abbrederis the scholarship he'd wanted since he was an adoring kid, watching the Badgers. But while the status relieved his financial obligations, it didn't change his mindset.
    "It's never being satisfied," he said. "I've always kind of kept that walk-on mentality -- nothing's given and everything's earned."

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/174869091.html
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    The former walk-on seen as a "possession receiver" in the NFL.

    Wisconsin Badgers Jared Abbrederis is every bit an NFL receiver

    Not many famous people hail from the small town of Wautoma, Wisconsin.

    In fact, no sports player has ever gone on to play professionally from the Waushara County town made up of roughly 2,200 people.

    Come time for the 2014 NFL Draft and a wide receiver named Jared Abbrederis will make that a false statement.

    Abbrederis is the Wisconsin Badgers star wide receiver and has all the tools to join the ranks of the NFL next season.

    Before we delve into exactly why Abbrederis will be a perfect fit for an NFL team, let’s see what scouts are saying right now about the senior and former walk-on wide receiver.

    Anonymous Expert Scouting Reports:

    “Undersized, jitterbug WR. Excellent WR. Excellent returner. Reliable hands and savvy route runner. Projects as a slot receiver at the next level.”

    “I like him better than Nick Toon. I don’t know his timed speed, but he’s great at applying vertical pressure on defenses. His punt return production indicates he can run after the catch on short/intermediate routes, but WI hasn’t really used him like that. I think fourth round is his worst-case scenario, but I think he’s second or third.”

    Abbrederis is a guy the scouts love because he brings so much value to a prospective team in multiple areas.

    Take it from teammate and fellow wide receiver, Kenzel Doe, who told me exactly what kind of threat Abbrederis is:

    “He’s a deep threat, any type of threat really. Abby has good routes, knows how to run routes and knows defenses like the back of his hand. Him catching the ball opens it up for the rest of us on the team.”

    Those traits were on full display in the Badgers’ first two games of the season. In the 45-0 win over UMass, his two catches were of the deep variety and went for 65 and 57 yards, both for touchdowns. He switched it up in the 48-0 win over Tennessee Tech, hauling in a career-high eight receptions on short/intermediate passes and another touchdown.

    Abbrederis told me his greatest strength is “playing fast.”

    “A lot of guys, especially younger guys, won’t play as fast as they can. When you have experience, the game slows down and it helps me read the opposing defenses.”

    In addition to being a smart player, he has a quality that gets passed over a lot with wide receivers and that’s being a team player. Slot receiver in the NFL is very much a team-oriented position because it puts the player in a role to make catches or block for teammates.

    “Team comes first, you want to win games. If that means blocking every play or making a catch, it’s all fine with me.”

    The aforementioned Doe confirmed Abby’s love for the team when he mentioned that Jared has played a huge part in his development as a wide-receiver/punt return specialist, “We talk on the sideline and off the field we hang out at his apartment. The relationship we have is a good one and we’ll keep that for the rest of our lives.”

    In addition to team goals, Jared has a few of his own in 2013.

    “I want a 1,000 yard season, that would be pretty cool and something I really want to achieve. Ten touchdowns is another thing. At the end of the day, I want to be up on the list with some of top receivers to play at Wisconsin.”

    There’s no doubt that Abbrederis will go down as one of the top receivers to ever play at Wisconsin. He’ll only solidify that when NFL teams come-a-calling next spring.

    What do you think of Abbrederis’ draft stock? Do you think he’s already one of the best to play at the position at Wisconsin? Let me know by commenting below.

    Nick Grays is a senior writer at the Sports Bank where he covers the Wisconsin Badgers and Green Bay Packers. He also enjoys sharing Fantasy Advice and pretends to be a Golf expert from time-to-time. Follow him on Twitter by clicking here or visit his blog Nick Knows Best. If social media is not your thing, shoot him an email at grays@uwalumni.com.

    http://www.thesportsbank.net/wiscon...d-abbrederis-is-every-bit-a-nfl-receiver-479/
     
  3. Leonardfan

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    It just goes to show what a group of lemmings all of these so called NFL talent evaluators are.

    Jared is a deep threat receiver and one of the best in the nation. He will undeniably get the comparison to Wes Welker though and his race will move him down in the draft much like Swope/Vernon were this season.
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    Right now there isn't a single white receiver in the league that is considered a "deep threat" even though there are many. Jordy Nelson, Devon Wylie, and Brian Hartline all would be considered deep threats if they were black.
     
  5. celticdb15

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    Awesome article!

    Bleacher Report Ohio State vs. Wisconsin: Jared Abbrederis was best N.F.L. prospect on the field.




    This ones decent too.

    Dane Brugler of CBS Sports has put forth his list of Week 5 Risers and Fallers.
     
  6. Thrashen

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    During the Wisconsin-Ohio State game last weekend, a contest in which Abberderis amassed 10 catches, 207 yards and a TD, one commentator said: “Jared Abberderis is, without question, the best receiver in the Big 10.” That same commentator continued to mention how Abberderis was “abusing” one particular Ohio State cornerback.

    Let’s hope he can continue to dominate, perform well at the combine, and earn himself a 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round draft selection. Since they’re both fast, white receivers over 6-ft tall, the Casteon “comparison” will likely be Jordy Nelson…

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  7. Jimmy Chitwood

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    a couple more follow-ups regarding my favorite current collegiate wideout:

    first, from so-called NFL media analyst Daniel Jeremiah:
    hahaha!!!

    and from Mike Huguenin, college football 24/7 writer:
    how is Abbrederis faster than Roby, if Roby is a "blazer" but Abbrederis isn't? that doesn't even make sense. yet, garbled statements like those above are commonplace with the mind pretzels these idiots have to twist themselves into in order to maintain the facade of negro affletic superiority.

    Abbrederis is well on his way to becoming arguably the best wideout in Wisconsin history, before he goes on to be dutifully ignored and/or rejected by the NFL (see Kevin Kasper, John Standeford, Mike Hass, Travis McGriff, and Conner Vernon; just a few names that come quickly to mind regarding White wideouts who were "evaluated" as unable to play wide receiver at the NFL level despite having led elite, power conferences in receiving).

    hopefully, this game-breaking, electrifying, multi-talented, strong-willed White man can continue to overcome his doubters and detractors and "talent" "scouts" who claim he isn't good enough. after all, he didn't receive a single scholarship offer to play collegiate football coming out of high school ... and look at him now.
     
  8. bearclaw500

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    Brent Musburger was his usual self during the Ohio State vs Wisconsin game, and did not disappoint with his typical caste comments.

    Jared Abbrederis was back receiving a punt and Musburger says:

    "Abbrederis receiving the punt, in place of the injured Kenzel Doe. Abbrederis not the speed threat that Doe is, but they sure appreciate his sure handedness."


    Later in the game, MLB Chris Borland of the Badgers stuck the 230 Lb fullback from Ohio State and sent him backwards. Musburger says:

    "Borland the best linebacker on the field, but probably not NFL caliber".
     
  9. Freethinker

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    Great commentary guys. You fellas truly are better talent "evaluators" than the Marxist whores who write for the dinosaur media. I find the Jordy Nelson comparison to be apt for many reason other than race and would consider it a high compliment for Jared. After all, Jordy was also a walk-on in college as well and if Jared can become a 2nd round pick, we'd all be ecstatic. Both are also having huge senior years with less than stellar QBs; Nelson with Josh Freeman and Abbrederis with underclassman Joel Stave.
     
  10. whiteathlete33

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    Some scouting websites calls Abbrederis a burner and others still consider him a possession receiver. That tells you all you need to know about these idiots. You can't be both. Still many feel he's only a slot receiver.
     
  11. Jimmy Chitwood

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    just take a look at some of the idiocy that Dane Brugler wrote in the commentary that celticdb linked to (i will embolden the important bits):

    1) it's easy to forget about one of the elite receivers in the Big Ten conference? really?

    2) "average" for whom? considering he routinely outran a "first round draft pick" in Roby all night, average long speed must be pretty damn fast. and WTF does muscle definition have to do with playing football? if anything, it means I'm A Bad Ass, er, Abbrederis has "dat upside" (hat tip to davidholly) that we hear so much about, and he'll become even more explosive if he hits the weight room. right?

    3) deceiving defensive backs ... this is a new one. perhaps an upgrade on "precise route runner," this could also mean I'm A Bad Ass, er, Abbrederis is a political science major. heh.

    4) with "apparently" only marginal physical ability, how was Abbrederis able to "make it tough" on Roby all night? especially considering A) Roby has "incredible physical ability", and B) everyone knew the ball was going to be thrown to him, shouldn't that be impossible?

    5) "doesn't scream NFL prospect"? why not?

    6) "extremely detailed" ... interesting. i have no idea what the hell that is supposed to mean. perhaps he takes really good notes during the receivers meetings during practice?

    this stuff is just ridiculous. it's so obviously slanted, that anyone with even a little discernment should notice it.
     
  12. Awake in America

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    Abbrederis lacks "muscle definition" because muscles stand out better behind darker skin. He's a spray tan away from taking away that criticism. Unbelievable that they would stoop to that level to criticize him, but so very believable. Dane Brugler (whoever the hell that is) is a homo.
     
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    The guy's just trying to coin some new Scoutspeak. I don't think "detailed" will get picked up though. Doesn't have enough upside.
     
  14. white is right

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    The extremely cut look that some wide outs have is largely due to fat burners which I think are largely banned by the league because of Korey Stringer dieing during the preseason due to dehydration. I don't recall many players looking like TO during the 70's or early 80's when PED usage was largely confined to the O and D linemen.
     
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    Certainly, PEDs are a factor. TO was juiced, for sure. Meanwhile, is this football or bodybuilding? "Muscle definition" is simply appearance. It has no bearing on strength, or any other measurable factor for football performance. That said, the closet cases that cover football sure are impressed with it.
     
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    This is awesome this thread has taken off since that Ohio State game and the press Jared is well deserved!

    Wisconsin head coach regarding star receiver Jared Abbrederis: "Jared is not deceptively fast; Jared is fast".
     
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    Have seen this guy a few times over the last two years and he is a fantastic receiver. Should be a 1st round pick. Better then Eric Decker in my opinion (who I think is well good enough to be a starter in the NFL) All the above examples of the garbage written by people terrified of complimenting a white person were laughable.Best one was..."Abbrederis isn't a blazer, but he sure was fast enough to consistently get open against Roby, who is considered a blazer"Its almost like someone trying to get a message across in a coded way to get somethng past the censor. Though process being...I think Jared is faster and quicker than RobyI can't say that in my article because people will think I'm a racistSolution. I'll stick my neck out a little bit and say, "Abbrederis isn't a blazer, but he sure was fast enough to consistently get open against Roby, who is considered a blazer"
     
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    umm, you think Decker is good enough? Not quite sure yet? :yo:
     
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    Yes I do think he (Decker) is good enough for the NFL. Meaning he is no worse than 50% of the starting wide receivers playing in the NFL right now. He has a few drops - and so do most of the rest. He needs to secure the ball better when on the run, and so do many NFL receivers and backs. I think he will improve on these things. The trouble is he needs to be better than 75% of starters, and fast, to keep his place.
     
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    so you can name like 30 receivers better than him? because each team starts at least 2 receivers, that's 64. I don't think I can name 15 better than him right now. There were multiple guys that dropped double digit catches last year, up to 14. Yeah he had two fumbles this year, but had 0 last year. Not that big of deal, unless your paying attention to caste announcers that talk over and over about it. Some of the top leaders in stats have some inconsistent play but nobody talks about it.

    and I really don't see how this relates to Decker. I don't think they are similar. Decker is 6'3 217 pounds, Jared is 6'1 190 pounds. Hopefully he measures at 6'2 and adds some muscle. We haven't had good luck with 6'0 and 6'1 guys getting chances. Mike Hass comes to mind.
     
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    Decker is in the top 10 percent of NFL receivers. . .
     
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    I was comparing him favorably to Decker to show how good I thought he was, not to knock Decker.If you want to defend Eric Decker please do so with the poster who says he is not sure about him. As I said, I think he is good, and well good enough to be a starter. And I think Abbrederis will be even better
     
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    ummm. not everyone has to have the same viewpoint. I have watched Decker for a while now, he is a top receiver. "well good enough to be a starter"? he HAS been a starter since the 2011 season, a season where he was on pace for 1080 yards before Tebow came in and they went run heavy. He still led the team in receiving despite Tebow locking on to Damaryius Thomas when he came back from injury. He has 23 td catches in the span of 2 seasons and 5 games.

    If you want to listen to the caste analysts and "experts" go on and on about his weaknesses like the ONE time he went down for no reason (which was like a year or two ago), or the few drops and fumbles (2) he has, then go ahead.

    besides, the noticeable mistakes with him are all mental, and fixable. I went through pretty much every game he played in college making his highlight video and didn't recall seeing any drops or fumbles, not even the vicious hit he took against Cal. He bailed out his qb multiple times, a qb that could never anticipate him being open, always wait til he got open, then threw the ball, which usually gave the db time to catch up, making Decker have to fight for it.

    Last night, there was an afflete, Reuben Randle who tripped over himself with wide open space, then slams the ball out of frustration, still a live ball, picked up by the other team, and the refs bail him out and say he "gave himself up" so it wasn't a fumble. Yet the announcers weren't too hard on this guy.

    You may not notice it but even top guys make mistakes all the time. Sometimes it isn't noticeable, like running the wrong route, sometimes leaving the qb to throw an interception, or it could be just not running the route properly, like simply rounding off the route. Bad routes happened multiple times last night, some of them leading to interceptions. I believe one of them was Hakeem Nicks, who is considered a "top receiver", yet Eli is always blamed, even called an "inbred hick" by a member of a board that is for White players! It it pretty easy to spot flaws in every receiver out there, even the top ones, its a little harder for maybe someone like Calvin Johnson but the rest, pretty easy to spot. Andre Johnson would be on that list with Calvin but he has lost a step and can tell he is fading, which is why Schaub is fading imo. I never thought of Schaub as a top qb despite having multiple 4k seasons, great stats, as he tended to lock on to Johnson way to much, even when the number 2 was wide open, like Kevin Walter, for multiple years. Andre still up there, but the flaws are more noticeable.

    Its pretty damn hard to be White and an average player and stay starting. He was 2nd in the league for td catches last year, 1 behind the leader, who didn't have 1k for the season. Somehow that puts him in the middle of the pack of starting receivers, which is a total of 64, really more than that with teams using more 3 wideout sets. I mean who are the starters in Green Bay? Nelson? Jones? Cobb?

    now if you want to do the whole dwf thing of "Damaryius makes Decker" like the whole Moss vs Welker thing then that would be ridiculous. Nobody said jack about Harrison and Wayne when they played together with Manning. Both were considered top receivers. Besides, Decker has done well without Thomas playing.

    I don't understand why this happens on this "pro White forum", players get over-analyzed in terms of their weaknesses for the sake of being "fair". If you want to sit there and dwell on weaknesses, do it for every player thats considered in the top, regardless of race. I think you would find Decker is already in the top.

    I mean what do you want, precise routes every play, no mental lapses, no drops, no fumbles a couple of circus type catches every game like one handed grabs while flipping through the air? Just find me 5 receivers that run precise routes every play, no mental lapses, no drops, no fumbles.

    but no, for the sake of "fairness" (don't want to look too pro White , on a board FOR White players), lets overlook the flaws of other top receivers and dwell on the ones our players have.
     
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    OK OK OK. I give in! I think Abbrederis is an outstanding prospect and will be an ever better NFL receiver than Dez Bryant or Brandon Marshall.Can we drop this Eric Decker stuff now?
     
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    Decker could be a pro-bowler this year if he stays healthy. His numbers rake him in the top ten among receivers.
     

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