English Premier League 2012-13

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  1. Matra2

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    An article reviewing the new players coming to the EPL this year: Santi Cazorla, Lukas Podolski, and Olivier Giroud (Arsenal), Eden Hazard and Oscar (Chelsea), Shinji Kagawa (Man United), Fabio Borini (Liverpool), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham), plus a couple moving to smaller teams:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rzola-Eden-Hazard-and-Shinji-Kagawa-fare.html

    Robin Van Persie has repaid Wenger's loyalty at Arsenal all these years when he was struggling by switching to Man United. That's modern football. Luka Modric is now in Spain - I expect Tottenham to go back to being a middle of the table team but we'll see. At Anfield, where Liverpool face a crucial year, Joe Allen has moved from Swansea with new manager Brendan Rodgers and Suarez has signed a new contract. In addition to Eden Hazard, Chelsea have signed Marko Marin and...Thorgan Hazard.:icon_rolleyes:

    As for Manchester City...who cares?
     
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    in the article they say that giroud would adapt very quickly to premier league, i think that it's true
    but they also say that he's not the kind of player that arsene wenger likes, while in a recent interview wenger said that he hates strikers that only score goals, he want them to pass the ball too
    since giroud also is the player with most assists of his club, and the 4th of the league (unusual for a striker) it seems that he's the kind of strikers that wenger likes

    also hazard could have problems to adapt
    he chose to play in a french club (while he is belgian) but notice that he only played for a club very near to the belgian border
    also his brother thorgan hazard played for a different club in france, but that club is also very near of the border, and close to lille
    so he's not the kind of person who likes to leave his region
    the english climate is the closest to the belgian climate though
    i always thought that he was slighly overrated but wish him the best


    it will be interesting to see who plays, aguero the argentine international, or balotelli?
    they can play at the same time but there are so many forwards in this team

    aguero litterally offered the title to manchester city in the last seconds of the last game, he also saved them in the last seconds in champions league vs villareal
    he was also the club's top scorer, by far

    i'll root for liverpool and arsenal, but manchester united and manchester city are going to be though oponents, especially if our best players get suspended for looking a black player in the eyes like suarez last year
    let's hope that they will have better luck with injuries too

    also chelsea is a lot whiter than last year (it wasn't hard, but really they are pretty white right now)

    oscar is the best out of the new brazilians (ganso, neymar, ect)
    it's strange to see that he will play in england, that's unusual for this kind of player
     
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    "Robin Van Persie has repaid Wenger's loyalty at Arsenal all these years when he was struggling by switching to Man United. That's modern football. Luka Modric is now in Spain - I expect Tottenham to go back to being a middle of the table team but we'll see. At Anfield, where Liverpool face a crucial year, Joe Allen has moved from Swansea with new [COLOR=#009900 !important]manager[/COLOR] Brendan Rodgers and Suarez has signed a new contract. In addition to Eden Hazard, Chelsea have signed Marko Marin and...Thorgan Hazar"

    Joe Allen is a perfect example for a British player who never would have gotten a chance to play in the BPL if it weren't for promotion because of all the foreign players. He started out at a 3rd division team and then showed he could play in the Prem when he got the chance.

    I wonder how long Bale will stay at Tottenham if they drop in the table.
     
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    As an introduction to the new season, here is a summary of the Premier League-related off-season transfer activity. All players are White unless otherwise stated. Loan moves are in italics.

    ARSENAL:

    Olivier Giroud (Montpellier to Arsenal)

    Lukas Podolski (FC Koln to Arsenal)

    Santi Cazorla (Malaga to Arsenal)

    Denilson (BLACK) (Arsenal to Sao Paolo - LOAN)

    Carlos Vela (MESTIZO) (Arsenal to Real Sociedad)

    ASTON VILLA:

    Brett Holman (AZ Alkmaar to Aston Villa)

    Matthew Lowton (Sheffield United to Aston Villa)

    Ron Vlaar (Feyenoord to Aston Villa)

    Karim El Ahmadi (ARAB) (Feyenoord to Aston Villa)

    CHELSEA:

    Eden Hazard (Lille to Chelsea)

    Oscar (Sport Club Internacional to Chelsea)

    Marko Marin (Werder Bremen to Chelsea)

    Thorgan Hazard (Lens to Chelsea)

    Didier Drogba (BLACK) (Chelsea to Shanghai Shenhua)

    Salomon Kalou (BLACK) (Chesea to Lille)

    Sam Walker (Chelsea to Bristol Rovers - LOAN)

    Ben Gordon (BLACK) (Chelsea to Birmingham City - LOAN)


    EVERTON:

    Steven Naismith (Rangers to Everton)

    Steven Pienaar (BLACK) (Tottenham to Everton)

    Tim Cahill (HALF-SAMOAN) (Everton to New York Red Bulls)

    Joseph Yobo (BLACK) (Everton to Fenerbahce)

    FULHAM:

    Mladen Petric (Hamburg to Fulham)

    Hugo Rodallega (BLACK) (Wigan to Fulham)

    Danny Murphy (Fulham to Blackburn)

    Dickson Etuhu (BLACK) (Fulham to Blackburn)

    LIVERPOOL:

    Joe Allen (Swansea to Liverpool)

    Fabio Borini (AS Roma to Liverpool)

    Oussama Assaidi (ARAB) (SC Heerenveen to Liverpool)

    Craig Bellamy (Liverpool to Cardiff City)

    Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool to Fenerbahce)

    Maxi Rodiguez (Liverpool to Newells Old Boys)

    Alberto Aquilani (Liverpool to Fiorentina)

    MANCHESTER CITY:

    Jack Rodwell (BLACK) Everton to Manchester City)

    Wayne Bridge (Manchester City to Brighton - LOAN)

    Vladimir Weiss (Manchester City to Pescara)

    MANCHESTER UNITED:

    Robin van Persie (Arsenal to Manchester United)

    Nick Powell (Crewe Alexandra to Manchester United)

    Shinji Kagawa (ASIAN) (Borussia Dortmund to Manchester United)

    Tomasz Kuszczak (Manchester United to Brighton)

    Paul Pogba (BLACK) (Manchester United to Juventus)

    NEWCASTLE UNITED:

    Romain Amalfitano (Stade Reims to Newcastle)

    Curtis Good (Melbourne Heart to Newcastle)

    Vurnon Anita (BLACK) Ajax Amsterdam to Newcastle)

    Gael Bigirimana (BLACK) (Coventry to Newcastle)

    Peter Lovenkrands (Newcastle to Birmingham City)

    Alan Smith (Newcastle to MK Dons)

    Fraser Forster (Newcastle to Celtic)

    NORWICH CITY:

    Steven Whittaker (Rangers to Norwich)

    Jacob Butterfield (Barnsley to Norwich)

    Robert Snodgrass (Leeds United to Norwich)

    George Brislen-Hall (Arsenal to Norwich)

    Javier Garrido (Lazio to Norwich - LOAN)

    Adam Drury (Norwich to Leeds United)

    Zak Whitbread (Norwich to Leicester City)

    Daniel Ayala (Norwich to Nottingham Forest - LOAN)


    QUEENS PARK RANGERS:

    Andy Johnson (Fulham to QPR)

    Ryan Nelsen (Tottenham to QPR)

    Robert Green (West Ham to QPR)

    Junior Hoillet (BLACK) (Blackburn to QPR)

    Jose Bosingwa (BLACK) (Chelsea to QPR)

    Park Ji-Sung (ASIAN) (Manchester United to QPR)

    Fabio (MESTIZO) (Manchester United to QPR -LOAN)

    Heidar Helguson (QPR to Cardiff City)

    Paddy Kenny (QPR to Leeds United)

    Fitz Hall (BLACK) (QPR to Watford)

    Danny ****tu (BLACK) (QPR to Millwall)

    READING:

    Pavel Pogrebnyak (VfB Stuttgart to Reading)

    Danny Guthrie (Newcastle to Reading)

    Garath McCleary (BLACK) (Nottingham Forest to Reading)

    Nicky Shorey (West Bromwich Albion to Reading)

    Chris Gunter (Nottingham Forest to Reading)

    Pierce Sweeney (Bray Wanderers to Reading)

    Adrian Mariappa (BLACK) (Watford to Reading)

    Brian Howard (Reading to Portsmouth)

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Jay Rodriguez (Burnley to Southampton)

    Steven Davis (Rangers to Southampton)

    Paulo Gazzaniga (Gillingham to Southampton)

    Nathaniel Clyne (BLACK) (Crystal Palace to Southampton)

    STOKE CITY:

    Michael Kightly (Wolverhampton Wanderers to Stoke)

    Geoff Cameron (Houston Dynamo to Stoke)

    Jamie Ness (Rangers to Stoke)

    Jonathan Woodgate (Stoke to Middlesbrough)

    Danny Collins (Stoke to Nottingham Forest)

    SUNDERLAND:

    Carlos Cuellar (Aston Villa to Sunderland)

    Louis Saha (BLACK) (Tottenham to Sunderland)

    Michael Turner (Sunderland to Nottingham Forest)

    Asamoah Gyan (BLACK) (Sunderland to Al-Ain)

    SWANSEA CITY:

    Miguel Perez Cuesta (Rayo Vallecano to Swansea)

    Chico (Genoa to Swansea)

    Jonathan de Guzman (BLACK) (Villarreal to Swansea)

    Kyle Bartley (BLACK) (Arsenal to Swansea)

    TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR:

    Jan Vertonghen (Ajax Amsterdam to Tottenham)

    Gylfi Sigurdsson (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim to Tottenham)

    Niko Kranjcar (Tottenham to Dynamo Kiev)

    Vedran Corluka (Tottenham to Lokomotiv Moscow)

    WEST BROMWICH ALBION:

    Ben Foster (Birmingham City to West Brom)

    Marcus Rosenberg (Werder Bremen to West Brom)

    Claudi Yacob (ARGENTINE JEW) (Racing Club de Avellaneda to West Brom)

    Romelu Lukaku (BLACK) (Chelsea to West Brom - LOAN)

    Yassine El Ghanassy (ARAB) (Gent to West Brom - LOAN)


    Keith Andrews (West Brom to Bolton Wanderers)

    Simon Cox (West Brom to Nottingham Forest)

    WEST HAM UNITED:

    James Collins (Aston Villa to West Ham)

    George McCartney (Sunderland to West Ham)

    Jussi Jaaskeleinen (Bolton to West Ham)

    Stephen Henderson (Portsmouth to West Ham)

    Raphael Spiegel (Grasshopper Zurich to West Ham)

    Mohamed Diame (BLACK) (Wigan to West Ham)

    Alou Diarra (BLACK) (Olympique Marseille to West Ham)

    Modibo Maiga (Sochaux to West Ham)

    Ravel Morrison (BLACK) (West Ham to Birmingham City - LOAN)

    WIGAN ATHLETIC:

    Fraser Fyvie (Aberdeen to Wigan)

    Ivan Ramis (RCD Mallorca to Wigan)

    Arouna Kone (BLACK) (Levante to Wigan)

    Ryo Miyaichi (ASIAN) (Arsenal to Wigan - LOAN)

    Chris Kirkland (Wigan to Sheffield Wednesday)
     
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  5. Rebajlo

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  6. Matra2

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    Arsenal have looked lost up front. Giroud didn't come on until the 64th minute - in place of Podolski.
     
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    A bad miss from Giroud results in him getting the blame - according to our commentators - for Arsenal's failure to win. Meanwhile Liverpool were thrashed 3-0 away to West Brom.

    Horrendous start to the season.
     
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    the team is too black to support them anyway, if walcott plays gervinho shouldn't play
    giroud instead of gervinho, ofcourse! gervinho is a ligue 1 player like giroud but he wasn't even close to making history like giroud did last year

    unfortunately giroud has a weak right foot, he is totally left footed (he missed with his right foot)

    regarding liverpool, i didn't watch the match because it's in the afternoon and since it's so warm here you have to go to a place where there is water
    but i'm horrified to hear the results

    michu the new spanish striker playing for swansea scored 2 goals in the thrashing of QPR, heavily black, with 1 asian and 1 arab too (only 3 white players started the match)
     
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    it gets better: chelsea looks like a top european team: white defense, white goal keeper, white offensive middle fielders, white striker
    and ofcourse black defensive middle fielder and black fullback (they also had ryan bertrand, a black winger, but in the most important matches i don't think that he will play)


    they won 2-0 at wigan
    oscar was reportedly very good and hazard didn't disapoint, and was reportedly crucial in this match
    lampard once again shows that he's good at scoring penalty kicks

    i was wondering if he was black or white
    another player with family in the business
     
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    Hazard had the assist on the first goal and drew a penalty for the 2nd. Hopefully, Chelsea will start Meireles over Bertrand. That would make 8 whites. Bertrand is listed as a defensive player on wiki.

    Is Cahill still injured because he didn't start?
     
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    i think that he was ready to play
    i hope that david luiz played just because it was an unimportant match, like bertrand
    but i found nothing about cahill for that match
     
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    out of the top teams, manchester united lost in everton, liverpool lost in west bromwitch, arsenal did a draw at home, and manchester city won at home (laboriously)
    so i'd say that things are pretty even now
    only chelsea did very well with a victory at wigan
     
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    I shouldn't have checked this site. I was going to watch the MU game on tape delay.oops.
     
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    sorry :icon_mrgreen:
    anyway manchester united will be watchable when vanpersie will start instead of wellbeck
    then they will have a very good attack
    van persie came in and it would be interesting to know where he played, because that would be the way manchester united would play this season
    i guess that it was van persie as a main striker and rooney like a very offensive middlefielder
     
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    United looked clueless on attack. They just kept passing it around the periphery of the box then aimlessly crossing it - usually Evra, but Ashley Young wasted a couple too. (In the last minute or two Young just crossed it straight to Everton goalie Tim Howard wasting one of their last opportunities). Of course, it's only the first match of the season, they should get better.
     
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    Everton had a very white team. Well, maybe 7 white starters. Not as good as I thought, but not too bad. I don't know why the national team doesn't start Jagielka instead of Lescott, if they don't start Cahill.
     
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    Right lads, here is the first breakdown of the season...

    N.B. As always, in order to avoid complications I am counting all Bosnians as White (yes, that's awfully generous of me...:icon_wink:).

    Arsenal 0 Sunderland 0

    ARSENAL:

    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman*), 4 blacks *This season I have decided to count the half-Finnish, Essex-born Carl Jenkinson as an Englishman. Despite playing for Finland at U-19 and U-21 levels, Jenkinson has thus far refused to play for Finland at senior level. Mind You, given his "patriotic" vacillations I wouldn't be keen to see him turn out for England - or, for that matter, Finland...

    Finished: 9 Whites (1 Englishman*), 2 blacks

    SUNDERLAND:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab

    Fulham 5 Norwich City 0

    FULHAM:

    Started: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks
    Finished: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Albanian

    NORWICH:

    Started: 10 Whites (7 Englishmen), 1 black
    Finished: 9 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Queens Park Rangers 0 Swansea City 5

    QPR:

    Started: 3 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian
    Finished: 4 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 Asian

    SWANSEA:

    Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 5 blacks

    Reading 1 Stoke City 1

    READING:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    STOKE:

    Started: 11 Whites (6 Englishmen) :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
    Finished: 8 Whites* (3 Englishmen*), 2 blacks *Dean Whitehead sent off after 88'

    West Bromwich Albion 3 Liverpool 0

    WEST BROM:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
    Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

    LIVERPOOL:

    Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks ... Remember, Luis Suarez is counted as a black due to his "mixed-race" background...
    Finished: 8 Whites* (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks *Daniel Agger sent off after 58'

    West Ham United 1 Aston Villa 0

    WEST HAM:

    Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Maori
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    VILLA:

    Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Arab

    Newcastle United 2 Tottenham Hotspur 1

    NEWCASTLE:

    Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
    Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

    SPURS:

    Started: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

    Wigan Athletic 0 Chelsea 2

    WIGAN:

    Started: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab
    Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: Unchanged ratio

    Manchester City 3 Southampton 2

    MAN. CITY:

    Started: 3 Whites (1 Englishman) 5 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
    Finished: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

    SOUTHAMPTON:

    Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

    Everton 1 Manchester United 0

    EVERTON:

    Started:6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk
    Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 small-part Indonesian

    MAN. UNITED:

    Started: 6 Whites (4 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian
    Finished: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Asian

    SUMMARY OF ROUND:

    220 starters

    Whites: 136 (61.818 %) - Englishmen: 49 (22.272 %)

    Blacks: 68 (30.909 %)

    Other non-Whites: 16 (7.272 %)

    27 goals (Whites: 16; blacks: 7; Arabs: 3; mestizos: 1)



     
  18. frederic38

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    i hope that this year QPR gets relagated
    they invest a lot of money but they do it the wrong way
    for example everyone here is shocked because they are willing to pay 12-14 millions for kurt zouma (black defender), who plays in french first division since last year
    they also want mbia from marseille: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26r0j_baros-raciste_sport

    newcastle is also very dark!
     
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    Chelsea is pretty fun to watch this year so far. They've whitened up this year somewhat, starting 8 whites and 3 blacks for their first two games. Chelsea's white players are fun to watch; guys like Torres, Oscar, Lampard, and Hazard. They had a great comeback against Reading, winning 4-2.

    Like I said, Chelsea started with 8 whites and 3 blacks today, and finished with 9 whites and 2 blacks!

    Also, Gary Cahill did start at CB today for David Luiz. I also don't know why Cahill didn't start on Sunday.

    I hope Chelsea will be able to beat out Man City and Man U for the title this year as long as they keep playing white players; they seem to be the whitest top team in the Premier League so far, Man City, Man U, and Tottenham are all disgustingly black. Arsenal has improved a little this year, starting 7 whites in their last game.
     
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    They didn't deserve it though. The third goal shouldn't have counted as Torres was offside. I don't think Torres will recover his old form.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up for me. I didn't get to watch the last 15 or so minutes of the match. I did get to see Cahill's goal though.
     
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    It look like QPR is signing two white central defenders--Dawson and CArvahlo.
     
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    Chelsea 4 Reading 2

    CHELSEA:

    Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
    Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
    READING:


    Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Turk
    Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

    If anyone is wondering why I count Reading's Jem Karacan as a Turk and Everton's Leon Osman as a half-Turk despite the fact that both players were born in England to Turkish "Cypriot" fathers and white mothers, here's the reason: the former has represented Turkey at youth levels while the latter has never played for the Turks. There it is...
     
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    Just watching the build up to Liverpool's Europa League match (against Hearts) the consensus among "experts" is that Andy Carroll will be sold or sent to another team as he, as a traditional British-style striker, doesn't fit into Brendan Rodgers' more continental style of football. Needless to say he's not even in the line-up for tonight's match.
     
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    liverpool has only 3 forwards outside of carroll, and one of them is 18 years old
    they already have very few forwards for a team that plays both europa league and premier league
     

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