Black QBs in the NFL

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  1. Tom Iron

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    Don, I mean you've already seen the best they have, and it's not close to being good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence with White Qb's such as P. Manning, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, Rothlesberger, Luck, Shaub, etc. Some of them might even be thought of as "good" for a short period of time, but never anything better than that. I rather like the malarkey of putting black QB's out there each year. At some point, even the drunkest DWFs will smarten up on the race issue, especially the ones putting their money down on these games.


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  2. Awake in America

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    It's interesting that the only black QB to win a Super Bowl wasn't much of a runner, and the black QB to throw for the most yards and touchdowns by far, wasn't a runner either. Doug Williams didn't "make plays with his feet", and Warren Moon didn't scare anybody as a runner. But it's still always the "next Randall Cunningham" or the "next Michael Vick". I have never once heard a QB referred to as the "next Warren Moon". Obviously, advancing the idea of the "dual threat" (only black) QB is more valuable to the system's long-term goals.
     
  3. Wes Woodhead

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    Earlier in the season I heard a commentator say that Hundley, the freshman negro QB out of UCLA "reminded him of a prime Warren Moon".
     
  4. Leonardfan

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    Somehow Terelle Pryor gets to start the final game of the season but Tebow doesn't. I am sure all the DWFs of Raider nation think he is their negro savior at QB. Pathetic
     
  5. Truthteller

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    Leonardfan, just read Cleveland will start some guy named Thad Lewis this Sunday, so that's another thing to watch out for this weekend.

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    I'm sure the vast majority of the posters here at CF are at least 23 or older. Hence, most should remember the 2000 season fairly well. That year, 5 of the 12 teams that made the playoffs started young, black quarterbacks.

    In the NFC, 4 of the 6 QB's starting in the playoffs where black: Philadelphia (McNabb), Minnesota (Culpepper), Tampa Bay (S. King) and New Orleans (A. Brooks or J. Blake).

    In the AFC, Tennessee had a black starting QB. It could've been 6 of 12, as Baltimore began the 2000 season starting Tony Banks, but eventually went with Trent Dilfer, who was cut in Tampa to make room for Shaun King.

    In addition, Detroit and Pittsburgh barely missed the playoffs that year with 9-7 records and both teams had young, black starting QB's (Batch and Kordell) that the Caste media believed would eventually become NFL stars.

    Don't forget, Michael Vick was only a few months months away from being picked #1 overall, while the ultra talented Drew Brees slipped to round #2. Soon after Brees came off the board, Dallas and Oakland wasted second round picks on "super athletes" Quincy Carter and Marques Tuiasosopo.

    My point, we've been down this road before. We all know the powers-that-be that run the NFL want more and more black stars, particularly at quarterback. After that late 1990's/early 2000's group of young, black QB's started to become busts or were deemed "mediocre", NFL teams seemed to shy away a bit from black QB's for a few years...then came busts like Vince Young, Jamarcus and Campbell.

    Let's see how the current crop of young, black QB's fares down the road? But don't forget, what we are seeing now is merely of repeat of fairly recent history.
     
  6. davidholly

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    That was during the period of the early 2000s where the NFC was weaker than the AFC, there were so many black QBs in the playoffs but only once did a black QB ever reach the Super Bowl. :icon_mrgreen:
     
  7. Don Wassall

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    True, but Truthteller makes an excellent point in vivid fashion, the same one I've made many times -- namely that the black QB mania dates back a long time now and has been populated with far more busts than successes. It hit high gear with the comically memorable flop named Kordell Stewart around 1997 and has continued apace ever since, yet quarterback remains the Whitest position in football outside of kickers and long snappers (and possibly centers), which is especially frustrating to the anti-White Cultural Marxists because, as the corporate media mouthpieces love to say, it's "the most important position in sports."
     
  8. foobar75

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    Another thing worth noting is that by default, all black quarterbacks seem to hit a wall around the age of 30, and then flame out soon thereafter. McNabb, McNair, Vick, Cullpepper, look up their stats, and you see an unmistakable pattern, where there's an overall decline in their play that starts at the big 3-0, and it accelarates rapidly downhill from there. The only exception to that rule is Warren Moon, I believe, who continued to have a few above average seasons into his late 30s.

    Contrast this to White QBs, who are only hitting their prime at 30, and then continue to play at an elite level well into their mid, and sometimes late 30s. Manning, Brady, Elway, Favre, Warner, Gannon, and I'm sure there are others I'm leaving out.

    I'm certainly surprised and disappointed at the success that Wilson and Gremlin have achieved in their rookie years, and that virtually guarantees they'll be given at least a 5-year pass before there's any thought of replacing them as starters. But then again, by then, even if they continue to have some success, they'll fast be approaching that wall, so I'm not too worried about the position becoming majority black anytime soon.
     
  9. Average American

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    in my opinion, it should be looked at, as 3 distinct categories of player (Black, White, & mulatto) QBs.. I think a lot of the current mulato QBs (Freeman, R. Wilson, etc) are the benefactors of their White lineage, in respect to the QB position..
    without sounding too racially superstitious,.. the QB position is unique in it's requirement for reacting to pressure..which generally (not exclusively), Whites have a biological advantage in.
    It's one of those things that most ppl instinctively recognize, but for me it was really highlighted watching the old 'Fear Factor' series.. 100 lb White girls would routinely put out musclebound brothas, bcuz they could psychologically perform better in spite of distractions & perceived dangers (of eating weird foods, performing tasks at dangerous heights). It sounds dumb, but I think the nerve that is required to hang in the pocket, separates White, from mulatto, from Black QBs, generally in that order.. so there will be/are some good mulatto QBs in the coming years..
     
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    I'm a little less optimistic about this situation than some of you guys are. Look at all the quotabacks that will be entering the league both in 2013 and 2014, Geno Smiff, EJ Manuel, Logan Thomas, Tahj Boyd, Teddy Bridgewater, etc.. It seriously never ends. The powers that be by hook or by crook are trying their damndest to make the QB position black. NFL coaches have already dumbed down playbooks and the league has toughened up its rules about playing defense all to benefit the black QB. I don't know folks, I wish I were as optimistic as some of you but when I go to DWF message boards, just about everyone there is on the quotaback bandwagon.
     
  11. Leonardfan

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    Smiff is going to get all the praise this draft. EJ Manuel will be a mid-round pick but will flame out of the league - the guy isn't very good. Logan Thomas had an epically pathetic season after being lauded as a potential number 1 pick. I am sure his performance probably raised some red flags but will continue to be pushed by the "professional" draft analysts like jew kiper and todd mcgay. Tajh Boyd is a midget system QB - i don't think he will be more than a midround pick. Bridgewater will be the next black QB to really be hyped up.

    I share some of your concern - the rules of the game have changed and the position is easier to play but like others have pointed out to me that makes the white qb's even better since we are a cut above mentally.
     
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    You're probably right here. Like Geno Smiff, Teddy Bridgewater is also a "Sowff Flawda" product. The DWF's on message boards are already oooing and ahhing over him. It seems like every QB that comes from this area is black. Sometimes I wonder if there are any white kids even playing football in South Florida at all these days. You wouldn't know it the way these affletes are hyped up, especially the quotabacks.
     
  13. Leonardfan

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    A lot of the quotabacks are also recruited from the Tidewater region of VA. That area is supposed to be "rich" in affletic talent.

    Beamer seems to get all this quotabacks from this region of Virginia going back to the Vick's.
     
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    I actually went to high school with one of Beamers quotabacks (TJ Jackson) so he's getting them from here as well.
     
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    The interesting thing about black QB's and overly black teams is no matter what, they're time on top is relatively short. Even if the 49's win the SB, they'll most assuredly not repeat. Same with Seatle. Wilson could be the best QB in the world, but his Achilles heel is his team is too black. They'll come apart at the seams next year and everybody will wonder why.

    This is just the way of things. Something I've learned over many years of watching blacks. They can't maintain. It's not just in sports either, it's in everything they put their hand to, whether it be sports or work. Once they get praise, that marks the beginning of the end for them. So these sportswriters don't understand they should limit their praise of blacks. It's the sportswriters who we know love blacks who do them the greatest disservice with their over the top reporting of black accomplishments.

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  16. white is right

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    Well it looks like Chip Kelly has hitched his star to Glass Joe er Michael Vick for a trial marriage....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=madGk4l4ewY
     
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    What a joke. Nick Foles was far and away the better QB last season. Vick is a turnover machine. Just more caste BS from this farce of a league.
     
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    Yep. I live & played in the district that produced Vick, Brooks, Boyd, etc. VT & Beamer definitely look here for affletes. Almost every high school is majority black & the football teams are overwhelmingly so. There are smaller & whiter schools in the suburbs.
     
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    The Eagles have signed Dennis Dixon after "inexplicably" re-signing Vick. Looks like Chip Kelly is going to be a perfect hire for ultra-Caste owner Jeff Lurie. Nick Foles will need all the luck he can get (mainly in the way of injuries to oft-injured Vick and Dixon).

    It'll be interesting to see if Fat Bastard is less Caste in Kansas City than he was in Philly, but then again the "conservative"-owned Chiefs have been among the blackest in the league going back to the days of the AFL.

    In Buffalo, the latest word is that the awful Tarvaris Jackson is going to get to compete for the starting job with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick has a lot of detractors and it looks to be a matter of time before he joins Alex Smith as a "career backup."
     
  20. PHillisFan

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    Chocolate Chip Kelly has a history of starting quotabacks at oregon. This is not surprising.

    I really do hope the rumors are true that Fat bastard is interested in trading for Foles. This would give Foles a good shot at starting and would almost be a deterrent from Kansas City drafting Geno Smifff.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick just crashed down after Buffalo gave him his contract. I don't know if he just got complacent but it is disappointing. As a business move, buffalo is better off releasing him. It's a shame. I am not concerned about Tj Jackson. That quotaback is not good enough to be a starting qb. Buffalo will draft their qb of the future in the early rounds.
     
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    Tavaris Jackson, a guy who has no business in the league, will be competing with Fitzpatrickl for the starting gig in Buffalo. He probably won't win but we will most likely be looking at 8 starting quotabacks next season with Geno Smiff virtually a lock to start for any team that drafts him. That's 25 percent. SMH.
     
  22. Leonardfan

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    Yep - the phasing out of white's at the QB position is well in place. Unlike all the other skill positions I will be around to witness tt and be told that blacks are better at the position even though I have seen Montana, Manning, Brady, Favre all play the position at the highest level. The only quotaback I could see having any competition is that goober Josh Freeman who has had no obstacle as of yet and been given a free ride as the unchallenged starter.

    How Tavaris Jackson is even getting consideration as a starter is beyond me.The guy plain stinks. As for Chip Kelly - he screwed Foles over - it sounds like the Eagles want to trade him. I despise Kelly as he is one of the people most responsible for this basketball on grass offense - I hope he fails epically.

    I just think every year from here on out at least one quotaback is going to get the push as the best QB in that year's draft. It seems that alot of the clowns out there are also trying to push up EJ Manuel's stock.

    The fact clowns like Costas, Collinsworthless and Al Michaels were calling QBs like Manning and Brady "throwbacks" shows you the direction the NFL is taking the league. All the while guys like Tebow and Locker are not even given the same chance as all these quotabacks.
     
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    We've heard this before. The advocates for the black QB have wanted blacks to succeed at what is acknowledged as the most cerebral position on the field, even if the individual QBs at hand play a less cerebral style. It is about vindicating the forced-integration movement's central egalitarian tenets. If they can just get some black starting QBs (and head coaches) on payroll, it eases their discomfort with such a glaring, obvious contradiction to their cult's religion.

    Equality of the races is so obviously false to anyone with the ability to observe and trust his own observation, over and above the constant brainwashing from media and government. The integrationists have so much emotional capital invested in their religion, that reality only drives their desire to force their vision to be so. They are content to promote unqualified blacks into positions, to at least give the superficial impression of something-like-equality. If not for affirmative action and race-norming, if we had only a free meritocratic system, free of government's heavy hand, the statistics alone would scream how stupid the idea of forced-integration was to begin with.

    If they cannot make blacks the intellectual peers of whites, the next best thing from their point of view is to use this high-profile position (QB) to show that blacks are "just as capable" as whites. If that requires changing the nature of the QB position -- they call it "revolutionizing," not the more appropriate "dumbing down" -- so be it. And even if they cannot sustain the change, for the moment it gives attention to the music they are trumpeting! They've learned to settle for the temporary appearance of success, because no one will remind them later that they were dead wrong. Going with the integrationist flow means never never having to admit you were wrong or apologize the mess you cause.
     
  24. Leonardfan

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    Nice post - really liked this paragraph. The position is easier to play than it ever has been - it has been dumbed down that is why more and more QBs are putting up better and better numbers. 5-6 years ago 60% completion was considered very good and now it is considered the standard. The changes in the rules have just inflated the stats at the position.

    I despise racists like Chip Kelly who have a proven track record of favoring non-white QBs. By the time the NFL season rolls around I wouldn't be surprised to see the Eagles have a coal black QB depth chart. Both EJ Manuel and Matt Scott - bitchrod's quotaback last season are both being pushed up depth charts. I am sure that visor wearing dweeb will draft one of them. Also, the Raiders are talking about giving Pryor a chance which is a crock of **** - he is getting a fair shot yet Tebow will never get one - give me a break. It is obvious the decision makers are really pushing black QBs now more than ever.
     
  25. celticdb15

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    I'm impressed with Fitzpatrick considering he has **** for his receiving corps. Stevie Johnson is the only guy that can consistently get open and his hands are questionable. Scott Chandler needs to be more involved in the offense and maybe Buffalo will draft one of the many white receivers coming out this year who are being pigeon holed as slot guys(Swope,Moe, and Vernon) any of those 3 would definitely be an upgrade.
     

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