Black QBs in the NFL

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  1. Zeus

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    Very well said Don............And who's behind this whole caste system? We all know!
    And what the good 70% of the white American brothers who are portrayed from the same "elite" people who control the NFL among other things as non athletic, obese, weaklings, nerdy, non attractive, non desirable by their own women etc? Let me tell you what they going to do Don.........they will make a good 80% (if not more) of the armed forces of the United States of America (Amazing Grace LOL) who will be sent in the Middle East to start another war against the "Anti-White, Anti Christian" Muslims which will result what Don?
    More dead young white American brothers who could have been in the NFL or any other sport if there was no caste system (or maybe the stupidity and brainwashing COMA that the average young white American is UNABLE to wake up from), more destroyed/weak/ powerless white families inside the American society and MOST IMPORTANTLY, MILLIONS of these non white Muslims who will immigrate LEGALLY (this time) all over Europe and the white genocide will continue in every part of this world!

    Man, we are about to extinct as a kind and you worry for the QB position? Soon or later in the US (and Europe of course) it will be ILLEGAL TO BE WHITE, so who cares about the QB position really? The VAST MAJORITY of white Americans (post 1950's) are the ones to blame for all the bad happening to our kind......... USA is not even a white country anymore, so the QB position being black soon or later it's just the aftermath of 200 million plus white brothers and sisters NOT GIVING A CRAP for their kind..........I am not that shocked personally!


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    The only winner of the upcoming war in the middle east will be the "elite ones" again, I hope no one has a doubt about that? Well who cares as long as our white American, British and rest European brothers will send our young brothers to fight in the name of "Western Christianity" right? Btw, when was the last time white people participated in a war for a "PRO WHITE" purpose? Not inside the 20th and 21st centuries for sure is the answer!
     
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  2. Don Wassall

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    Yes, I do worry about the quarterback position. That's what this site is about, supporting White athletes. Your rant has nothing to do with this thread and belongs, if anywhere, in Happy Hour.

    Like you, I am also involved in politics. But this is a specialized site, about one aspect of the racial problem Whites face. Are you capable of staying on topic without every post being either apocalyptic scoldings of American Whites, criticizing various European groups for not living up to your standards, or engaging in a flame war with other posters?
     
  3. Zeus

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    I think most posters agree with me and my views at this point and i have war with NO PRO WHITE man around the world, not even ONE! That's what you think, not the truth!

    Of course I can stay to the topic Don............How do you expect white QB's, or white dominated NFL, or a white dominated sport, period, in the US, when our brothers there have been brainwashed to believe they are unable to do decently what minorities do? When whites by 2050 will be less than all minorities combined? When whites don't even have the same chance in specific fields of life and sports? The NFL and the NBA is nothing more (or less) than the experiments of the "elite groups", for how USA and every western nation should be on every level, so the QB in the NFL is usually the MVP, the most significant player, the star, how do you expects whites to continue having such a role in such society? I dunno how you can't see the connection of everything here, I dunno how can't you see by what I am saying I am absolutely sticking to the topic!

    My rant was not against you on a personal level, neither I ever attack any of you in here, I just give my opinion............Are you capable to respect pro white men with a fighting spirit and lifestyle?
     
  4. Don Wassall

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    No, you can't. Your opinion was not on topic and you know very little about the NFL and its racial dynamics. It's just the same old lecturing, the same rehash of the same basic post you've been making ever since you came on here years ago claiming you were writing a book, without adding anything to the thread but rather detracting from it by changing the subject from black quarterbacks to your view of the world which you love to interject into as many threads as possible. It would be like me going on a Greek forum about Greek sports and athletes I know nothing about and making the same basic political post over and over again, replete with scolding and lecturing those who didn't agree with me.

    I don't care whether you agree with me or not. I didn't take it as a personal rant against me, what I'm interested in for the board as the owner of this site is having good threads that are in line with Caste Football and its mission. This was a good thread on black quarterbacks until you posted in it. Either follow the posting guidelines, and what I ask you to do such as staying on topic, or don't post here.

    And as far as "respecting pro-White men with a fighting spirit and lifestyle," respect has to be earned, not demanded.
     
  5. Zeus

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    I think you take everything I say the wrong way, plus I never claimed to know much about the NFL. I do not add nothing to this site? LOL Funny. I never said that you are not the owner of this site and I AM DEFINITELY not trying to disrespect your site, or lecture anybody, I just give my opinion! Now if my style happen to be combat and fighting, well, that's how I am in person too, I don't think it's easy to change that!

    I don't want or I ever demanded your or anybody's respect in here, it's just an internet forum (with a great purpose for my race) and I post my views, that's all! I do not seek for respect from "online" people usually.

    I think my views on the specific thread are perfectly connected to the subject.

    I think you have a problem with my style, way of writing and views, I respect that, I guess I have to be a gentleman and respect your forum and stop "polluting" it.

    I am tired of you taking offense in everything I WRITE, from all people, as much tired as you are I am sure seeing me (for me daring) to give my views in YOUR site!

    I don't remember someone like you in high school, Law School or even Navy Seals, having so much problem with everything I say or write, but that's your site and I got to respect your wishes Sir!

    Sorry for giving my views on this thread, I am so done with this site this time!
     
  6. Don Wassall

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  7. Leonardfan

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    This is my main concern as well Kaptain. QB is going to become like every other position - it is going to be assumed that black's are better due to their skin color and magical "wrist flick". Look at this puff piece by Rick Reiley on the immortal RG3 - http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8377578/rgiii-arrived

    Black QBs are growing in the college ranks and this will only translate to the NFL. Its no surprise the passing game in the NFL has been dumbed down and the rules lean heavily in favor of the spread offenses all of the sudden.
     
  8. whiteathlete33

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    Can someone fill me in? I don't know what all the worry is. How many quotabacks are starting at the college level? I can't imagine it is alot.
     
  9. jaxvid

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    I think it's a difficult call on which way it will go. Talent wise it is very difficult to imagine how enough black quotabcks can be generated from college to play in the pros-- for a couple of reasons. One is that the offenses that blacks run in college generally do not prepare them for the offenses that are successful in the pros.

    And also because the rules for the passing game have been loosened up (perhaps to aid AA QB's or just to pump ratings) it makes it even easier for the good young White QB's to became successful. As an example Cam Newton had a good year last year but for all that he is not a fraction of the Qb that Matt Stafford is. There is no black Tom Brady-Drew Brees-Peyton Manning in the NFL and none on the horizon. That skill set: strong accurate arm, high IQ mental ability, lightning quick decision making, along with pocket presence, sensing pressure, audibling, is going to be genetically rare in black QB's and those few that would have it are not going to be developed in favor of the run-first suppa affaletes that the college game favors.

    How could the pros go all in on spread offenses? They fail at that level.

    The other question is does the NFL want to go in that direction. It would seem by all signs that yes the NFL would like 100% black players, coaches, announcers, but that may be more of a symptom of being a caste sport then an intentional policy. They are not stupid. they see what has happened to the NBA and they well understand that White QB's are the bulwark to avoiding that. If not for the White QB the NFL would basically be the NBA. Is this a road the league is willing to go down?????

    Hard to say. It's difficult for me as a race realist to not look at the situation and understand how simple it is. But those in the NFL are for the most part brain washed into the cultymarx fairyland so it is conceivable that they believe that a 80% White fan base will continue to support them at the levels they are now. Who believes that any sizable amount of White people are ever going to get tired of 24-7-365 blackness??

    Another issue looming for the NFL is the threat of humongous lawsuits from past head injuries. They are as fat a cash cow as was the cigarette industry. And perceived to be every bit as liable. Add that in to a declining standard of living and the real possibility of severe economic downturn and the race dynamics of the NFL could be put into play.
     
  10. Leonardfan

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    The worry is legitimate. The past two seasons quotabacks have been pushed by the media - one became the number one overall pick and the other became the second over all pick. Prior to each season both of those guys relative unknowns. I would guess that the quotaback rate is at 30-40% at the college level. Also certain schools are becoming black only at the position and certain coaches only recruit blacks at the position.

    Do you not notice the hype they get? All you have to do is look at the last week to see the media fawning over Robert Griffin after one freaking game.

    This year Geno Smith is going to get hyped up for Heisman. Matt Barkley is going to put up better numbers in a pro style offense and all the pundits are going to say it is because he has a better supporting cast yet no one is going to criticize the offense Geno Smith plays in. Read the Denard Robinson and Voodoo mathematics thread in the college football forum. Some great insight and posts from some of the best contributors to this site.
     
  11. dwid

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    I wouldnt be too worried, they have a low success rate. Pat White. Jamarcus Russel obviously. Terrelle Pryor. Tyrod Taylor. Juice Williams. Jacory Harris. Darron Thomas. Darryl Clark. Jordan Jefferson. Nate Davis. The poly guy who played foe ou and ole miss Masoli. These are just guys that were hyped as top nfl qb prospects at some point in their career, there are many came in hyped up an never even showed flashes of being decent! Like Cody green, they gave him significant snaps with Martinez starting to see if he would show anything, showed nothing, and at this time Martinez was struggling. This is only a few years worth. We have tons of guys with the pro typical size and style but if they really wanted to revolutionize the position, regardless of race then we would have guys Chandler Harnish Every White back that has gotten a chance has done well.

    Pryor and Taylor are backups, and I don't see them being anything more than what Troy Smith was. Juice Williams is with the Indoor Football League, a step below arena. Jacory Harris got an invite to the Eagles and was waived soon after. Darron Thomas not looked at by anybody, and I don't blame them, his throws were basically extended handoffs.Jordan Jefferson is on the practice squad in the CFL for Montreal. Nate Davis got a chance in the NFL, CFL and Arena no in the lone star texas indoor football league, Arena league doesn't pay that high for the average player, I wonder how much these smaller indoor leagues pay, I might just try out. Darryl Clark, tried out for Steelers and Washington, cut, CFL, cut. UFL, cut, now with the AFL. Masoli now in the CFL but spent most of the season injured. So most of these guys that are hyped in college aren't sneaking up as backups on NFL rosters, almost all of them were on an NFL roster at one point but let go after a while. I mean we don't have the ideal situation, but it could be much much worse, and I don't know whether if I want them to blacken qb position or not, because I think the positive would be the loss of many casual fans, it would require them to whiten up some to appeal to average person, not even the "anti racists" want to admit it, but most people want to root for someone that looks like themselves, right now that is the qb. I think it would require the NFL to make some sort of change, but then again there are still the the diehard dwfs, and may casual fans would eventually tune in occasionally

    CFL is easier for the smaller mobile blacks since the field is wider, they have more room to move around and find passing lanes. Arena and Indoor is easy because its about dinking and dunking. The two things that the quotaback can actually do.
     
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  12. The Hock

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    I read Leonardfan's link to the Rick Reilly gushing school-girl open love letter to Griffith. This is from a professional sports journalist?

    This Reilly has the Chris Matthews leg response syndrome, but rather than a shiver running down just one leg from hearing Obams speak, this Reilly must have shivers and quivers running up and down both legs from watching Griffith play.

    I wonder if he felt any shame the next morning.
     
  13. whiteathlete33

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    There are three quotabacks in the top 10 according to most "experts" for this upcoming draft.They have Geno Smith, Logan Thomas, and EJ Manuel.
     
  14. Leonardfan

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    Hey Whiteathlete- media types are now hyping up a quotaback in Bridgewater for Heisman although he has played **** competition up to this point...nothing to worry about though right?
     
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    This post is dedicated to Leonardfan. I certainly share in your concern in the artificial promotion of black quarterbacks. However, the ones currently in the NFL are as bad as their predecessors of the last couple decades. Let me update their progress, remember it's out of 32 qualifying QBs.

    Robert Griffin III- 103.2 QB rate (4th), 268 yards per game (14th)
    Cam Newton - 87.5 QB rate (17th), 253 yards per game (18th)
    Josh Freeman - 75.3 QB rate (26th), 198 yards per game (27th)
    Russell Wilson - 73.5 QB rate (27th), 149 yards per game (32nd)
    Michael Vick - 72.7 QB rate (28th), 287 yards per game (10th)
    Mark Sanchez (might as well include him) - 69.6 QB rate (30th), 203 yards per game (26th)

    So out of all the non-White QBs, we have one playing at an elite level (albeit against weak defenses), one average at best and 4 who's play is atrocious.
    Wilson, is only completing 60% of his passes which is poor for a dink & dunker. Plus he's regressed each game.
    Freeman, the only pro-style QB of the bunch, is a bust at the moment and a game manager at best if he cuts his interception rate. Maybe the Gap-toothed Wigger will have a moment of clarity and bench him at some point. After all, he's not one of "his guys".
    Vick, is long in the tooth, injury prone and inaccurate as a passer.
    Sanchez is arguably the worst QB in the league coming in dead last in completion percent as well as being near the bottom in most others. Even a buffoon like Rex Ryan will have to bench him for Tebow at some point.

    So in conclusion, there are 2 blacks who's jobs are secure plus Vick who'll never be benched by Porky Reid no matter how poorly he performs. So who are the blacks that will take over the position? Geno Smith, Logan Thomas, EJ Emanuel and Teddy Bridgewater? :kev: There is no evidence that any of those guys will be successful in the pros, especially Smith. Quarterback will remain White dominated.
     
  16. referendum

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    I too am optimistic about the QB situation. As I've previously posted, all black starting QB's, as well as Sanchez, have white backups. The top black backups in the league, at Baltimore, SF, Minnesota, Chicago and Pittsburg, would only be taking over due to injury. In each case the white QB in front of them is pretty well entrenched. (though to be honest I wouldn't mind if Leftwich took over at Pittsburg as part of the blackening process over there, if maybe Roethlisberger could take over in Philly or Seattle or Tampa Bay.)
     
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    The Geno Smith hype train is starting to roll and there is no reason to believe he will NOT be a high pick. The others, I don't know much about, yet.

    Here's the bottom line: The oldest black quarterback in the NFL is Charlie Batch, I believe? He's been in the league like 15 years? How many black quarterback's have been drafted in the top 3 or 4 rounds since he came out of Eastern Michigan? Probably over 20?

    Yet, if Josh Freeman loses his job in Tampa (which is possible), Micheal Vick will be only remaining black starting quarterback drafted prior to 2011!!!

    All the others are either out the game completely (Jamarcus, Vince Young) or relegated to back status (J. Campbell, B. Leftwich, ect.)...

    So there is no doubt that there WILL be a push -- a real hard push -- to get some black quarterback's drafted real high next spring, in hopes they'll be made immediate starters.

    I feel sorry for fans in Kansas City and Buffalo, as those are two teams most DWF's believe will be drafting a quarterback high in round one.
     
  18. Leonardfan

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    Nice post Freethinker. Those are encouraging numbers. It seems that every year their is going to be some hyped quotaback in college football. That's what frustrates me the most.

    I will try to stay cautiously optimistic.
     
  19. white is right

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    I know after the flops of Andre Ware and David Klingler the NFL scouts have been wary of qb's that have put up huge numbers in a wide open CFL style offense. But it looks like Geno Smith is getting the RG III treatment by this author. Granted it's Bucky Brooks, but in a few weeks more noted media types will be stating this unless Smith performs poorly against the tougher opponents on his schools schedule......http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...rgeoning-2013-nfl-draft-debate?module=HP11_cp
     
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    There is going to be at least one pretty much every year. It's been that way for a long time. Outlets like SI will trot out the "in ten years all the quarterbacks will be black" meme like they have for the past 30 years. There is a huge amount of hope invested in Scam Newton and RGIII, just like there was in McNabb and Vick. If nothing else, these storylines are a great way to point out the idiocy of the caste system to doubters.
     
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    I find it so gross that people in the media seem to hint that RGIII is some kind of handsome movie star. WTF? Now, I can see how people would say Tom Brady is a good-looking man (that's part of the reason why he's so hated---he's a talented "golden-boy" sort), and though I dislike Michael Vick I don't think he's an ugly person... But RGIII is actually, OFFENSIVELY ugly.

    YUCK.
     
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    this morning while catching a bit of the talking head roundtables of college football, i caught a list of "expert" "scout" Todd McGay's "top 5 quarterbacks" for the upcoming NFL draft.

    does it surprise anyone that after his stellar "evaluation" of every player in the country that he concludes that 3 quotabacks are among the top 5 quarterbacks in collegiate football? this is who he has "scouted" and asserted are the top NFL quarterbacks in the making:

    1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
    3. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech
    5. EJ Manuel, Florida State

    for the record, the two White quarterbacks who made the list are Barkley at USC (#2) and Wilson at Arkansas (#4).

    but just to put this moron's "talent" "scouting" in proper perspective, he has Arkansas' Knile Davis as the #4-ranked tailback in the nation. :doh:

    for those who don't know, Davis isn't even the best tailback on the Hogs' roster. here's a much more accurate scouting evaluation of the "phenom" who McGay drools over provided by your's truly, Jimmy Chitwood:

    Davis appears to be a steroid-enhanced pretty boy who "impresses" "scouts" by how he looks with his shirt off. he has terrific straight-line speed but is afraid to get hit. he's a pussy who is also injury prone. he's not even the best tailback for the not-exactly-dominant running game of the Razorbacks. for the season, the over-hyped preseason All-SEC 1st-Teamer Davis has fumbled once every 12 times he's carried the football (7 fumbles on 85 carries). and even when he doesn't fumble, his refusal to run between the tackles has proven him to be completely ineffective, averaging a mere 3.2 yards-per-carry despite his impressive speed.

    but, of course, he is still rated highly by McGay. "weird," huh?
     
  23. Leonardfan

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    McShay is an ass and a real jock-sniffing negrophile. None of those QBs are going to be any good. Smith will get pushed up by ESPN but Thomas ESPN inflated stock is falling and Manuel is a garbage QB.
     
  24. white is right

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    If EJ Manuel is the 5th "best" qb then 2013 is among the weakest draft classes in years or there is a clear agenda(or both). He is horrible with no pocket presence and not much magic with his feet too. I'm not even sure he can be a Radio type as Young at least won games with his legs.
     
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    Good point about Vick. He reminds me of Chris Rock, the type of inoffensive looking black guy that you can at least say looks normal for a black dude. But RGIII is dog ugly. However I think that is the whole point. They keep on pushing the goalposts further and further, the only way to break White people of their natural instinct for self preservation is to see the "other" as similar to them, so ugly black guy has to be made to be considered "handsome". Sure it's easy to take a Will Smith guy and say ok, he's black but his features are not so extreme that you are repulsed.

    The challenge is to take the repulsive guy and get people to think "that's a good looking guy". As stupid as that sounds the whole thing is working remarkably well. I know old ladies that 30 years ago thought black men were nothing but disgusting apes and would not for a second consider them as for example leading men actors, or God forbid mating material for younger female relatives. Today they think almost all black actors are "handsome" and welcome them screwing their granddaughters. I don't know how that happened, I'm still stuck with the same old prejudices and opinions from back then (for the most part) but so many others just up and changed because of the brainwashing. So, hell I guess it works.

    Let's face it, we're the freaks here. 50 years or more of mental programming and it didn't work with hard heads like us. What's our problem??? Ninety percent of the rest of the population (or more) just rolled over for it. Must bug the hell out of the guys that manipulate that ****.
     

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