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Riddlewire

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I've basically lost my enthusiasm for all of this recruiting nonsense. It's all proceeding according to a long term script. The slow elimination of whites from the football field at all levels continues unabated.
But, our guys will keep fighting and struggling against the system, so I salute their ambition (if not their wisdom).
To that end, I figured there should probably be a main thread for any significant scholarships given to white high school players. I'm not going to sit at my computer all day and track them. But if everyone can post at least one signing of note, this thread ought to fill up over the course of a couple of days.

I'll start with one.

WR Chad Beebe (Don's son) signs with Northern Illinois.
 
RB Tim McVey signs with Buffalo.
He was literally the only white runningback I could find in the Rivals database who has signed a D1A LOI. They have him as a 2-star.

Update: It seems Rivals got it wrong. McVey signs with Air Force. Which means he won't be playing legitimate football at all, since he now has 0% chance of ever playing at the next level (or getting any postseason awards, for that matter).
 
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black quarterbacks at every school.
White RB and WR schollys at their lowest level ever.
I don't know why I even bothered to make this thread.
 
Vanderbilt's James Franklin reverts to type and signs a class with only five white players versus twenty two black players.

Charlie Strong and Kevin Sumlin did much the same thing.

I look for Stanford to have an all-black team within the next three years.
 
While watching this disgusting display of coal black "five stars" picking out which hat to put on......just remember that Jordy Nelson and Eric Decker were both "two stars"......LOL at the racist system:tongue:
 
Yes, but they got to play.
The new strategy is to just remove whites from the football field entirely.
No chance of any pesky white receivers becoming hot NFL prospects if there just aren't any white receivers in college football.
 
Riddlewire, I try to ignore all the signing day hoopla. Year in year out its always the same, but at least some white athletes make it into college football as walk ons and unheralded, high energy, good character, team players. Take for example the Michigan Wolverines. If you looked at their defensive recruits over the last several years, I'm sure whites were nowhere near 50% of the players, but five of their best starters last year were white, nevertheless.
 
Stanford was actually pretty good this year, 7 out of 12 signees white. QB Ryan Burns, TE/Ath Greg Taboada, DE Austin Hooper, OLB Sean Barton, OT Thomas Oser, OT David Bright, DE Mike Tyler.

Penn State also solid, 9 out of 17, but all their top signees white. LSU, although far from anything enjoyable, ended their streak of 0-2 whites per class. OT Ethan Pocic, OG Andy Dodd, QB Hayden Rettig, TE Logan Stokes, DT Christian LaCoutre. All of them, minus Dodd, are already enrolled down in Baton Rouge. Florida, who also had several white-free recruiting classes, signs OLB Matt Rolin and LB Alex Anzalone, QB Max Staver, DE Jordan Sherit, OG Cameron Dillard, and DT Joey Ivie. OT Tyler Moore also transferred to Florida from Nebraska not sure how long he's been in Gainesville.

Still plenty to look forward to next year, Braxton Berrios, McCaffey's kid, and several other white skill players look to get major offers, including several from SEC powerhouses.
 
Watching all these legally retarded "5 star" recruits utter the word academics really pisses me off.
 
Looked over the 2013 thread and am just updating the RB list, thanks to all who contributed there!:

Justin Webster - Iowa State
Anthony Lauro - Akron
Dakota Diessner - Air Force
Tim McVey - Buffalo
Parker Davis - Air Force
Brendan Douglas - Georgia - likely will play fullback but has 4.49 speed
Billy East - Army
Brandon Monroe - San Jose State
Hunter Atyia - Air Force - likely a WR
Ryan Severson - Colorado
Drake Martinez - Nebraska



AJ Glass will go to Princeton, Lorenzo Fertitta to Villanova and David Gaydosz will go unsigned but is looking to find a school. He has offers from a couple of FCS schools and has interest from Akron but no offer. Cole Mckeel, who was generating tons of interest from schools but no offers, appears uncommitted as well. Cole Mazza, who shares the same name as the number 1 long snapper recruit, has some offers from the likes of Western Kentucky but there's no info on him signing yet. Ryan Switzer will play WR at UNC, which I think is a position better fit for him. Jarek Hilgers, who I swear I thought was committed to san diego state last week, is apparently unsigned.
 
I have no words to describe this video. Sickening/disgusting would be an understatement. In that Ole Miss signing room, I'm counting about 15 men, 13 are "white", and the other 2 are black. I assume these are members of the coaching and recruiting staff. Notice the explosion of cheers, high-fives, and man-hugs, once they realize some 18-year old African ranked number 1 by those criminal recruiting services has decided to attend their school. It's an example of everything that's wrong with college/pro sports today and this country as a whole.

[video=youtube;ntYvMSIA_NE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntYvMSIA_NE[/video]
 
foobar75 said:
I have no words to describe this video. Sickening/disgusting would be an understatement. In that Ole Miss signing room, I'm counting about 15 men, 13 are "white", and the other 2 are black. I assume these are members of the coaching and recruiting staff. Notice the explosion of cheers, high-fives, and man-hugs, once they realize some 18-year old African ranked number 1 by those criminal recruiting services has decided to attend their school. It's an example of everything that's wrong with college/pro sports today and this country as a whole.

[video=youtube;ntYvMSIA_NE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntYvMSIA_NE[/video]
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In all liklihood, four years from now everyone will be saying "Nkemdiche who?"

I usually ignore NSD every year as it's always the same. It is at the core of our caste problem. The overwhelming majority of college coaches rely nearly exclusively on the "scouting" done by the "experts" at the MSM recruiting services. The school's grade for recruiting is based completely on the rating by these same services. Until something is done there, nothing will change.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, a university could go out and sign a complete class of white players that would absolutely dominate. However it will not happen because of the caste system risks involved. First, the coach would be barbequed because of his horrible recruiting class, since all of his recruits would probably be "zero" star players (in other words completely ignored). But even before that, he and his staff would have to find all of these players completely on their own, out of countless thousands of high school teams, since none of them pass the "eye test" necessary to get them "ranked" with the services. It then would probably take a year or two to see results, but the coach would be blown out way before then. As another poster noted, recruiting blacks at skill positions is "safe". Even if they suck (which they usually do) it's okay, because they're black and look good, no heat will be leveled because of the recruit. But, say, a white RB, well, he's better be really good or it's the coaches' job for recruiting the stiff-hipped, slow, unathletic "cracker" for a "black mans position".
 
Vanilla_Sky said:
Looked over the 2013 thread and am just updating the RB list, thanks to all who contributed there!:

Justin Webster - Iowa State
Anthony Lauro - Akron
Dakota Diessner - Air Force
Tim McVey - Buffalo
Parker Davis - Air Force
Brendan Douglas - Georgia - likely will play fullback but has 4.49 speed
Billy East - Army
Brandon Monroe - San Jose State
Hunter Atyia - Air Force - likely a WR
Ryan Severson - Colorado
Drake Martinez - Nebraska
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RB Nathan DeBeikes signed with BYU and that's the position he's listed on BYU's site.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Nathan-DeBeikes-132931

Drake Martinez is slated to play Safety at Nebraska. Severson the same at CU.
 
FootballDad said:
In all likelihood, four years from now everyone will be saying "Nkemdiche who?"
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What I found most shocking -- better word might be "revolting" -- is how he said "I will be attended the University of Ole Miss" with a straight face. So after all the time he spent at the school during the recruiting process and the fact that he has a brother on the Rebels football team, he doesn't know it's the University of Mississippi?

I don't know how bright this guy is, but he sounds like a total and absolute retard saying "University of Ole Miss". If I were a University of Mississippi student or alumni, I'd be horrified that so many people were sitting on pins and needles, hoping this simpleton would chose our school just to chase after someone holding a ball. Pretty much shows everything that is wrong with big time college sports today.

Imagine some extremely low IQ male basketball player saying he's thrilled to be attending the University of UConn? Is any future "scholar athlete" that clueless and that stupid? I guess this Nkemdiche might be.
 
Truthteller said:
What I found most shocking -- better word might be "revolting" -- is how he said "I will be attended the University of Ole Miss" with a straight face. So after all the time he spent at the school during the recruiting process and the fact that he has a brother on the Rebels football team, he doesn't know it's the University of Mississippi?

I don't know how bright this guy is, but he sounds like a total and absolute retard saying "University of Ole Miss". If I were a University of Mississippi student or alumni, I'd be horrified that so many people were sitting on pins and needles, hoping this simpleton would chose our school just to chase after someone holding a ball. Pretty much shows everything that is wrong with big time college sports today.

Imagine some extremely low IQ male basketball player saying he's thrilled to be attending the University of UConn? Is any future "scholar athlete" that clueless and that stupid? I guess this Nkemdiche might be.
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What are the percentage of these players who are busts similar to Vernon Gholston in the NFL? I would love to know. I will give the guy a pass on the name after all he will be attended Ole Miss for " 4 years" and can get the name taped to his helmet.......:wink:
 
white is right said:
What are the percentage of these players who are busts similar to Vernon Gholston in the NFL? I would love to know. I will give the guy a pass on the name after all he will be attended Ole Miss for " 4 years" and can get the name taped to his helmet.......:wink:
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As I've noted many times on this site, I follow the NFL real close, don't follow/watch college much at all. So I don't even know how to answer your question using my knowledge, WIR...Nonetheless, it's a great question and I had a little more time to post here than usual today, so I did a quick google search using "top 100 busts rivals" and within a minute I actually found a recent article that answers your question.

It says up to 42% were total busts in college over a four year span the writer looked at, meaning guys like Gholston (that make millions but suck as pros) are not even counted....Per the article, one can probably expect 10 to 15 of the top 100 guys will be legitimate NFL starters (only a few will be stars), and that's being optimistic:


Curb your enthusiasm this Signing Day, I mean REALLY curb it … Plus, showing my work: full analysis of Rivals.com’s top 100 busts from 2006-09

http://blog.postandcourier.com/tige...-full-lists-rivals-com-top-100-busts-2006-09/
 
Riddlewire said:
black quarterbacks at every school.
White RB and WR schollys at their lowest level ever.
I don't know why I even bothered to make this thread.
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Riddlewire - I feel your pain and can empathize for sure. The QB position is really under attack - the monkey see monkey do mentality in college football at that position is real troubling. The fact that all these schools are getting blacks at the position is a bad sign. Rivals and Scout just perpetuate the caste system at the base level. The QB position is the last stand of the white athlete in the sport. More and more the media and DWFs are buying into the myth that the QB should be a better runner than passer.

I get the same type of anger during the NFL draft when every year only about a quarter of the players drafted are white with very little deviation.

As for a lack of white recruits at the other skill positions I think that is par for the course. I seriously doubt any inroads will ever be made in exposing and defeating the caste system. Football like basketball will somehow find a way to survive even though the sport gets blacker. Once that happens it won't be hard to stop following the sport altogether.
 
Truthteller said:
What I found most shocking -- better word might be "revolting" -- is how he said "I will be attended the University of Ole Miss" with a straight face. So after all the time he spent at the school during the recruiting process and the fact that he has a brother on the Rebels football team, he doesn't know it's the University of Mississippi?

I don't know how bright this guy is, but he sounds like a total and absolute retard saying "University of Ole Miss". If I were a University of Mississippi student or alumni, I'd be horrified that so many people were sitting on pins and needles, hoping this simpleton would chose our school just to chase after someone holding a ball. Pretty much shows everything that is wrong with big time college sports today.

Imagine some extremely low IQ male basketball player saying he's thrilled to be attending the University of UConn? Is any future "scholar athlete" that clueless and that stupid? I guess this Nkemdiche might be.
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:bigsmile: LOL! That's hilarious the "5 star" afrolete called it "University of Ole Miss". However, it's dang pathetic to see all the world class DWF jock sniffers creamin' their drawers over the signing of this overhyped thug. :tsk: I'd not be 1 bit surprised if he washes out at some point...thereby further exposing the fraud that is Rivals/Scout, etc.
 
Truthteller said:
It says up to 42% were total busts in college over a four year span the writer looked at, meaning guys like Gholston (that make millions but suck as pros) are not even counted....Per the article, one can probably expect 10 to 15 of the top 100 guys will be legitimate NFL starters (only a few will be stars), and that's being optimistic:


Curb your enthusiasm this Signing Day, I mean REALLY curb it … Plus, showing my work: full analysis of Rivals.com’s top 100 busts from 2006-09

http://blog.postandcourier.com/tige...-full-lists-rivals-com-top-100-busts-2006-09/
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this is even worse when considering the criteria for not being considered a "bust"

"(Bust criteria: failed to record one above average season (or) start in 20 games (or) play in 40 games)"

Wow...
 
dwid said:
this is even worse when considering the criteria for not being considered a "bust"

"(Bust criteria: failed to record one above average season (or) start in 20 games (or) play in 40 games)"

Wow...
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Yeah unless you're a quarterback you'll probably start 40 games by virtue of being a top 100 recruit even if you suck.
 
DixieDestroyer said:
:bigsmile: LOL! That's hilarious the "5 star" afrolete called it "University of Ole Miss". However, it's dang pathetic to see all the world class DWF jock sniffers creamin' their drawers over the signing of this overhyped thug. :tsk: I'd not be 1 bit surprised if he washes out at some point...thereby further exposing the fraud that is Rivals/Scout, etc.
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He also will "attended" to the school in the fall.......:wink: Hey if he washes out he can always "attended" Georgia Southern or the University of Central Florida.....:wink:
 
At 6'-0 217 & 4.46 you are only considered a "Fullback"...if you are white....according to Rivals.com Hopefully Brendan Douglas gets an opportunity with Georgia; but won't hold my breath. Will they try and put 20 more pounds on him to make him a blocking battering ram? Hope not!

Arkansas had 8 white signees out of 22...including a DB & WR....

Florida saw a suprising improvement after setting precedent of first all non-white class a few years ago..6 of 27 were white...including 5-Star LB-Alex Anzalone; DE-Joey Ivie; DE-Jordan Sherritt; LB-Matt Rolin...last years Gator roster had ZERO white scholarship players on Defense...so adding 4 is an eye opener! Hopefully they will make an impact & the dominos fall in place!

LSU went north to land 1st Team Parade All-American Left Tackle Ethan Pocic(IL) 6'-7" 285 & D-Lineman Christian LaCouture from Nebraska(originally from TX/TexasA&M Commit)

Texas A&M signed 31 players; 5 white(three on defense) ;23 black; 1 latino; 1 poly mix & another mix

Auburn had a pathetic caste class...only one white signee out of 23..an imported kicker from Colorado

Looks like Kentucky nearly followed suit...2 out of 22...a TE & another kicker

Alabama signed only 5 out of 25; including stud O-Line Barrett Jones younger brother LB- Walker Jones who looked like Peyton Hillis playing RB in HS!

I posted on another thread about the disparity of Rivals.com Top 100 WR's...ONLY 4 were white...hard to wrap my brain around that! How do we expect the NFL to be any better when these racist recruiting sites make the uphill climb so steep??
http://www.castefootball.us/forums/...-of-Being-an-NFL-Receiver?p=268678#post268678

Some WR's Signees...
Jake Oliver...Texas
Devon Allen...Oregon
Dylan Cantrell...Texas Tech
Drew Wolitarsky...Minnesota
Drew Morgan...Arkansas
Charles Callinan...Boston College
Dan Montersoro...Purdue
Zach Benjamin...South Florida
Josh Smith...Tennessee
Zach Challingsworth...Pitt
Mican Wilson...Northwestern
Trent Taylor...Louisiana Tech
Chad Bebee...Northern Illinios
 
I didn't bother following any high school players this season because... well, what's the point? None of them would have gotten scholarships, anyway. So I'm only just now looking at some of the high school players who are moving on to play college football.

While trying to find some runningbacks, I came across a Kansas State recruit named Tanner Wood. Tanner was a QB/DE in high school, but he led the state of Kansas in rushing last season (He was the Kansas Player of the Year). He's listed at 6'5" 237lbs (sounds like another KState QB we all know).

On KState's website, there was this quote from Coach Snyder about Tanner:
“Tanner is one of those guys that can play on both sides of the ball. He can do multiple things. He is a good athlete. He has really fine athletic ability in relation to his size. He will have his pick in regards in where he wants to play. We see him being able to play on both sides of the ball. It kind of depends on where he wants to go.â€￾
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I'm predicting a future star here.
 
For what ever its worth, my nephew got a full ride from a D 1 school in Florida. He was told he will be seeing playing time at free or strong safety. He is 601 currently 185 lbs and most importantly runs a solid 4.5 forty. I suspect on opening game 2013 he will be 195 or 200 lbs. I also suspect he could very well get his forty time into the 4.4s.
 
Westside said:
For what ever its worth, my nephew got a full ride from a D 1 school in Florida. He was told he will be seeing playing time at free or strong safety. He is 601 currently 185 lbs and most importantly runs a solid 4.5 forty. I suspect on opening game 2013 he will be 195 or 200 lbs. I also suspect he could very well get his forty time into the 4.4s.
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Hahah best of luck to him. By the way was he ever mentioned on this site?
 
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