"Your" team before becoming racially aware

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I was a Bears fan until Payton retired. Then a Raiders fan because my step dad was. But I grew up in gang-ridden NM, and everybody was a Raiders fan and like most kids, wanted to be different. Then I got Tecmo Super Bowl on my NES, and the starting RB was Merril Hoge. The starting LCB was a white guy named Rod Woodson. That's when I really got into football.

After that I became a Steelers fan. I found out that Rod was half black, and just light skin, but he was still my favorite player, and I wore his jersey number every year except my freshman year (i played flanker and wore 86) and my senior year ( it was tradition at my HS that the senior starting tailback wears #32).

It has only been recently that I was red pilled, and thus stopped being a Steelers fan.
 

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We grew up in Northern Michigan. I didn't care for football much but my father did watch those old Lions', Bears, and Packers teams that were mostly white so I watched football with him and my uncles on the old T.V. It never bothered my father an itch to see some black football players. Sometimes my father would even praise a good black player. At first the transition of the teams from white majority to black majority was slow and incremental, and I'm not certain of the exact year, but, sometime in the 80s, once the d and o lines, and linebackers, became almost all black it was obvious to us that some kind of racial tampering was going on. Dick Butkus could crash through a brick wall so who would be foolish enough to not want the likes of him on a team? Sure enough though, the league didn't want too many Dick Butkus' or Ray Nitschke's around anymore, the league became so obviously racially fixed and fixated, so we turned off the NFL.
 
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I can't name my favorite team before I was racially aware because I've always been aware and always rooted for the white athlete. But even with more white players in times past, I've never considered any NFL team to be "mine."

Only my local high school team could lay claim to being my team. They had begun a long winning streak when I was a grade schooler and just beginning to understand football and attend the games. After a while they had not lost a game since time immemorial (a couple years back at the time LOL). I was awed by the spectacle of the game. The pep band playing. The drums beating. The cute cheerleaders being tossed into the air. The crowd cheering and the girls screaming as our heroes crushed yet another hapless foe. What a spectacle the games were for me. I became a little football fascist. Victory always and forever!

Then, four or five years into the streak, at a Junior High party, we got word that they had lost an away game. The streak was over. The party petered out pretty quick after that. But to this day many years later they're still my team and I follow them every year.
 

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Started following it from London England as a 9 year old circa 1992, 49ers were first team, loved Steve Young, Montana etc, became a buffalo fan not long after and was aware of Don Beebe being a rare White WR..
Was always racially aware as a youngster and now like most on here I follow players rather than teams, New England have the edge but liking the Vikings too!
 

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The first game of football (I’m australian and it’s a fair way from being popular here) I saw was the niners-giants NFC championship game from ~2011 or so, chose to root for the niners in that game and have been a fan ever since. I quickly cottoned onto the whole caste system and it becomes more obviously every season and I find myself supporting white players (especially WRs and DBs seeing as those were the positions I played when I played football for a few seasons) more than I do my own team at times - and started lurking here in 2013 or so and joined up in 2015. This team has gone to hell and back since that 2011 championship game loss - coming so close to an SB win and another SB appearance, through the Smith/Kaepernick controversy (probably would’ve won a SB with Smith), firing Harbaugh then Tomsula then Kelly and Baalke. I’m very happy with the way the team is trending at the moment under Lynch and Shanahan (white QBs, white OL, white TEs, two white receivers on the roster right now, and have brought in a couple of defensive players recently to play key roles in Coyle and Marsh). Hopefully this trend continues well into the future.
 

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Been a Packers fan since 72 and still am, I assume the management there knows the score of what constitutes a team with fan staying power in Wisconsin since it is rare they take an "authentic" brother such as Marshawn Lynch.

In 1985 my dad got the team photo with his Packer Report sub and the team was over half white with even a white fullback from Auburn. Today I think the social justice warriors are out to ruin football because that is what women and the womanish do to things that don't focus on them ruin them.
 

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Packers and Badgers here as most of you know.
 

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Been a Packers fan since 72 and still am, I assume the management there knows the score of what constitutes a team with fan staying power in Wisconsin since it is rare they take an "authentic" brother such as Marshawn Lynch.

In 1985 my dad got the team photo with his Packer Report sub and the team was over half white with even a white fullback from Auburn. Today I think the social justice warriors are out to ruin football because that is what women and the womanish do to things that don't focus on them ruin them.

I recall the Packers having 5 or 6 White starters on defense in that era; in fact, Mark Murphy, Green Bay's current president, was a long-time starter at safety back then. Same with the Jets, Dolphins and a few other teams. A team with no White starters or even just one on defense was still an exception. It was several years later that defenses became completely a black thang. As we've written about in some other threads, the 1989 draft was relatively White friendly, followed by the 1990 draft in which only 2 Whites were drafted in the first round if memory serves. That draft was basically a template for all the drafts since and heralded a significant blackening of defenses in the '90s, which has only slowly gotten worse since.
 

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Fins fan since I was a kid in the late 80's. Loved Marino, Jensen, Offerdahl. Even after becoming aware, I rooted for them and kept hoping they'd draft more palefaces, only to be let down every year. Once they cut Brian Hartline I said to hell with it and stopped caring. When they hired Gase and he spent a 1st round pick on Cheech to play left tackle I officially started rooting against them. These days I find myself rooting for the Patriots out of spite and just enjoying the play of guys like Jordy, McCaffrey and such.
 

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I grew up a Falcons fan starting in the days of Coach Leeman Bennett & the “Gritz Blitz”. I was a big fan of QB Steve Bartkowski, LB Buddy Curry, DL Rick Bryan (RIP) & DB Scott Case.
 

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I grew up a Falcons fan starting in the days of Coach Leeman Bennett & the “Gritz Blitz”. I was a big fan of QB Steve Bartkowski, LB Buddy Curry, DL Rick Bryan (RIP) & DB Scott Case.
Didn't know if you knew this DD, but former Falcon great LB Tommy Nobis passed away the other day.
 

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The current Packers president is Mark Murphy former Redskin safety not the Packers long time safety Murphy from the 80s and purged by the fat walrus in the great cleaning out. To me it was natural to count race and I did that without a hint of malice towards blacks, even during the Favre era my favorite players were the workmen like Bennet and Driver.
 

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I never really had a favorite NFL team before becoming racially aware.However,I did like the early 90s bills,the colts a decade later,as well as the Patriots when they started becoming dominant.I never cheered for the teams with black qbs,even when I first started watching.Other than that,most of the other teams I was indifferent to.

Most of my life I was an Alabama fan,and of the SEC in general.The first year I watched was 1989 and they started two whites at DB.One at safety and the other at CB.While probably more black than many teams of the time,this would be something unheard of today.Gradually over the years I started noticing the races of players and questioning things.I discovered castefootball around (2004?)and have been reading/lurking off and on for several years.Especially during football season.

Some of the things I noticed were that if a white player (especially at a skill position) was listed on the depth chart,often a black would seemingly pop up out of nowhere and see lots of playing time in his place.And why if a white and black high school player put up similar stats,the black gets a scholarship to a top program,while the white ends up at a div 3 school or walking on.If a white does go to a top school,he often has to wait for 3 years to get any playing time,and even then rarely gets the ball thrown his way.The black,by comparison often gets immediate playing time and targets.Bringing any of this up to friends,co workers,or family,many of the older fans could understand my point.From people 40 and under I usually got two responses-"blacks play because they are the best athletes,you're being racist " or "I dont care what race a player/head coach is,as long as we win".The DWFs have a mindset that I could not comprehend.Many are racially aware on everything else,but for some reason love their affletes.They do not understand that these players do not represent them or their school and could care less about a teams tradition/history.They do not belong on a college campus and are only there in the hopes of making it to the NFL.There's no telling how many seek out white female students as well.

Everything is geared towards recruiting more blacks.A few years ago a friend invited me to a game at another SEC school.It had been several years since I had been to a college game and mainly went out of curiosity.On the way there my friend mentions some black defensive player and it was the typical sob story.No father,raised by grandparents,etc and he would be cheering for him because he "seemed like a good kid"(yeah,sure he is )...Before the game he pointed out a group of teenagers (all black) on the sideline,"theyre recruits" he said.Even I was shocked by the lack of white players in the program.Half of them were k/p/or snapper and only two or three of the rest were on the depth chart.During the timeouts/breaks the sound system played rap/black music.It was very different than the last college game I attended several years before.It was a very eye opening experience and I dont think ill be back.This isnt your dad's SEC.

I no longer cheer for Alabama football and instead only for white players on various teams.Years of coal black defenses and recruiting classes made me lose interest.Mississippi State will start an all black lineup in their bowl game.Not sure if a team has done this before,but dont expect it to be mentioned in the media....I hope all SEC teams lose.
 
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I never really had a favorite NFL team before becoming racially aware.However,I did like the early 90s bills,the colts a decade later,as well as the Patriots when they started becoming dominant.I never cheered for the teams with black qbs,even when I first started watching.Other than that,most of the other teams I was indifferent to.

Most of my life I was an Alabama fan,and of the SEC in general.The first year I watched was 1989 and they started two whites at DB.One at safety and the other at CB.While probably more black than many teams of the time,this would be something unheard of today.Gradually over the years I started noticing the races of players and questioning things.I discovered castefootball around (2004?)and have been reading/lurking off and on for several years.Especially during football season.

Some of the things I noticed were that if a white player (especially at a skill position) was listed on the depth chart,often a black would seemingly pop up out of nowhere and see lots of playing time in his place.And why if a white and black high school player put up similar stats,the black gets a scholarship to a top program,while the white ends up at a div 3 school or walking on.If a white does go to a top school,he often has to wait for 3 years to get any playing time,and even then rarely gets the ball thrown his way.The black,by comparison often gets immediate playing time and targets.Bringing any of this up to friends,co workers,or family,many of the older fans could understand my point.From people 40 and under I usually got two responses-"blacks play because they are the best athletes,you're being racist " or "I dont care what race a player/head coach is,as long as we win".The DWFs have a mindset that I could not comprehend.Many are racially aware on everything else,but for some reason love their affletes.They do not understand that these players do not represent them or their school and could care less about a teams tradition/history.They do not belong on a college campus and are only there in the hopes of making it to the NFL.There's no telling how many seek out white female students as well.

Everything is geared towards recruiting more blacks.A few years ago a friend invited me to a game at another SEC school.It had been several years since I had been to a college game and mainly went out of curiosity.On the way there my friend mentions some black defensive player and it was the typical sob story.No father,raised by grandparents,etc and he would be cheering for him because he "seemed like a good kid"(yeah,sure he is )...Before the game he pointed out a group of teenagers (all black) on the sideline,"theyre recruits" he said.Even I was shocked by the lack of white players in the program.Half of them were k/p/or snapper and only two or three of the rest were on the depth chart.During the timeouts/breaks the sound system played rap/black music.It was very different than the last college game I attended several years before.It was a very eye opening experience and I dont think ill be back.This isnt your dad's SEC.

I no longer cheer for Alabama football and instead only for white players on various teams.Years of coal black defenses and recruiting classes made me lose interest.Mississippi State will start an all black lineup in their bowl game.Not sure if a team has done this before,but dont expect it to be mentioned in the media....I hope all SEC teams lose.


That is exactly how most of us here feel.......

Watching games on tv is getting difficult due to all the forced diversity you see on commercials.....So many mixed couples and weird looking tranny people....Everyone doesn’t have to be beautiful blond knockout chicks (like on Fox News), but the forced diversity and rap music that dominates everything makes me want to barf......

Merry Christmas to all of you, by the way......
Happy New Year and may Trump kick ass in 2018.............
 

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Didn't know if you knew this DD, but former Falcon great LB Tommy Nobis passed away the other day.

I’d seen where “Mr.Falcon” passed away. Nobis was a beast at LB. In college, he averaged nearly 20 tackles game for the Texas Longhorns, and was a two-time All-American. In addition, he collected the Outland, Maxwell & Rockne awards in 1965. As Atlanta’s 1st ever draft pick, he was a 5x pro bowler & had 12 interceptions in ten years (at LB). He was a great humanitarian that ran the Nobis Center (charitable organization) for 41 years.

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Nobis had that classic linebacker look, reminiscent of Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. I'm old enough to remember when Life and Look and Time and sports magazines gave deserved cover stories to White football players at positions other than quarterback. Also to White sprinters and White athletes in all sports. The integration of blacks into sports in that era was roughly close to "what it should be" if the field of play could somehow be made color blind. It wasn't until the late 1960s that the media began programming the public to think that athlete = black, politicizing race into the relentless communist weapon used to hammer Whites into submission that it is today.
 

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Don, briefly if you can, pls explain how to post photos like you did above from the internet. I have a MAC and having the hardest time doing it. I want to post the Penn vs Alabama Sports Illustrated cover shot.
 

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Don, briefly if you can, pls explain how to post photos like you did above from the internet. I have a MAC and having the hardest time doing it. I want to post the Penn vs Alabama Sports Illustrated cover shot.
For a Mac, take your first two fingers (index and middle) and, together and at the same time, press on the image. A context menu will appear. Scroll down this menu using your index finger only and, with your index finger only, click/select "Copy Image Address". Once that's done, go to the area of your post where you want the image to display and then select the Image icon from the above menu and paste in the link that you previously copied. To paste in the link, do what you did before to get the image, but select the "Paste" option from the context menu that appears instead. Alternatively, you can just select the "Command" and "V" buttons on your Mac keyboard at the same time to paste it in. Then, click the "Insert" button and it should appear.
 

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For a Mac, take your first two fingers (index and middle) and, together and at the same time, press on the image. A context menu will appear. Scroll down this menu using your index finger only and, with your index finger only, click/select "Copy Image Address". Once that's done, go to the area of your post where you want the image to display and then select the Image icon from the above menu and paste in the link that you previously copied. To paste in the link, do what you did before to get the image, but select the "Paste" option from the context menu that appears instead. Alternatively, you can just select the "Command" and "V" buttons on your Mac keyboard at the same time to paste it in. Then, click the "Insert" button and it should appear.
Thanks Heretic. something is wrong with my computer. Its not working.
 

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Dolphins. Grew up during the Marino years. Never got to see the 70's undefeated team. Shula's teams always had plenty of whites on it, although he did go (somewhat) caste in the early/mid-90's.
 

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The Philadelphia Eagles, and it's still the case. I grew up in the Philly area and still identify with its teams (Sixers and Orange and Black nowadays not so much) as Phils and Birds. (The Soul and arenaball in general is not on my radar, and neither is the Union [MLS]).

John
 

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Patriots have always been my team but they mostly sucked growing up. In the late 70s and early 80s I would have my "playoff team" so I could have fun following the playoffs after the regular season. So I guess I got lucky as I discovered the caste system. Still wouldn't mind the Vikings beating the Pats in the SB as they are very white this year (more so than the Pats).
 
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