Young, Tarkenton, Elway, Staubach, and Rodgers!

Doug Flutie was also very athletic and a good passer. He made buffalo competitive after his stint in the cfl.
 
Jeff Hostetler was a good runner. Very strong. About as good as it gets for back-up QB's. Went 4-1 in playoff games with 112 passer rating.
 
Note on Bobby Douglass years ago I worked with a guy who was big into softball and Douglass was in his league. He said Douglass could stand at the center field fence and with a softball hit home plate. Of course in football he basically wore out the Soldier Field astroturf from his two hoppers.
 
I feel like an underrated qb was Jeff Garcia, he didnt get a shot in the NFL until he was 29, had 2100+ rushing yards and 26 tds. He had a few winning seasons in the NFL as a starter, and went 5-1 in the absence of McNabb one year when he was a backup for the Eagles. He was good at moving around the backfield to make a pass and caused a lot of defenses headaches. It would have been nice to see what he could have done starting in the NFL a little earlier.

Id say he was much better than Russell Wilson but of course considered a journeyman/backup type at only 6'1 195 pounds.
 
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Jeff Hostetler was a good runner. Very strong. About as good as it gets for back-up QB's. Went 4-1 in playoff games with 112 passer rating.
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Hostetler was as tough as they come..He use to take a beating every game..He also led the Giants to the Super Bowl and won against the Bills.. If Simms had not gotten hurt I don't think they would have got there....Hostetler added a spark to that year's team.......
 
Ahoy CasteFootball
Who would you say are the ten most screwed White Quarterbacks in recent NFL history? Especially the ones who could RUN and were drummed out of the league for having that talent? Thanks much --- Research that will help me with friends/family who still think NFL is happyland and OK for whites
 
Three well-known ones are Matt Jones, Tim Tebow and Eric Crouch. Jones and Crouch were drafted as wide receivers, and many draft know-nothings, er "experts," even wanted Jones to play tight end despite his 4.37 40 time at the Combine and lean build. Scott Frost, who played before Crouch at Nebraska, was another great running QB who was forced to play safety in the NFL.

One not so well-known was Mike McMahon, who was a very fast and elusive runner but admittedly raw as a passer. But he was never given time to develop and had a very short NFL career.

Those are quickly off the top of my head. There are many others, including a number who weren't even drafted.

Eric Crouch highlights:


Matt Jones highlights:
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Three well-known ones are Matt Jones, Tim Tebow and Eric Crouch. Jones and Crouch were drafted as wide receivers, and many draft know-nothings, er "experts," even wanted Jones to play tight end despite his 4.39 40 time at the Combine and lean build. Scott Frost, who played before Crouch at Nebraska, was another great running QB who was forced to play safety in the NFL.

One not so well-known was Mike McMahon, who was a very fast and elusive runner but admittedly raw as a passer. But he was never given time to develop and had a very short NFL career.

Those are quickly off the top of my head. There are many others, including a number who weren't even drafted.

Eric Crouch highlights:


Matt Jones highlights:
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Colorado St had a badass whose dad was a linebacker for the Vikings......
Bradlee Van Pelt......Dude rocked......
 
Here's a longer and better highlights video of Crouch which shows more of his passing ability. Crouch won the Heisman Trophy, but whereas in the '01 draft Michael Vick was the first overall pick, Crouch went in the third round to the Rams as a WR in '02. And that was when the Rams' head coach was Mike Martz, who was the Bill Belichick of his time when it came to White receivers, otherwise Crouch likely wouldn't have been drafted until the fifth or sixth round.

The knock against Crouch as a passer was that unlike Vick he didn't have a "rocket arm." But Vick's "rocket arm" was always scattershot. Anyway, how many plays during an average NFL game require the quarterback to have a "rocket arm"? Crouch was comparable to Vick as a passer and actually better as a runner. And it's probably safe to say that Crouch had a higher Wonderlic score. The NFL doesn't mind White QBs with some running ability; but excellent runners are verboten, one reason being that it would make the 35 year ban against White running backs look even more absurd than it already does. Note: Unlike the Crouch video above, this one is best watched with the soundtrack on mute.

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Man Crouch could play. If Tynog has been given 3 years to prove he can be an NFL QB (he has not) why wasn't Eric given the same opportunity? Oh, I forgot he is not black. No doubt in my mind he could have been successful.
 
Just looking at Crouch's athleticism, it's obvious he could've played CB and been very good at it. He wasn't a natural WR, but I think he could've made it in the NFL as a CB if given the time to develop at that position; but being White, that was a non-starter from the get-go.
 
Crouch was awesome. As a young kid I bought my 1st NCAA video game simply because he was on the cover. Electric runner and playmaker.
 

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Interestingly enough on the video highlight reel Don posted Crouch threw the ball over 55 yds right on target in the first hilight...hmmmm guess he didn't have a strong arm lol I dont know his actual 40 time but I would guess somewhere around 4.35-4.40 and possibly a 10.30 100m. Now I will go check to see if I am right :)
 
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Interestingly enough on the video highlight reel Don posted Crouch threw the ball over 55 yds right on target in the first hilight...hmmmm guess he didn't have a strong arm lol I dont know his actual 40 time but I would guess somewhere around 4.35-4.40 and possibly a 10.30 100m. Now I will go check to see if I am right :)
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I noticed that too. Crouch didn't throw a lot at Nebraska but with a good quarterback coach he could have been an all-time great given his running ability. Just look at the strides Jared Goff made in his second season with topnotch coaching.
 
While watching the Crouch video, the thought of NFL QB or NFL CB never crossed my mind. At 6'0, 210 lbs. and 4.47 speed, the cuts and moves he has. I was thinking NFL Running Back. I mentioned earlier in the NFL Playoff thread how slow TJ Yeldon looked for Jacksonville the other day. Yeldon, 6'1 215 lbs. ran a 4.61 at the NFL Combine.
There's no doubt that Crouch would've made an excellent NFL RB.
 
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Three well-known ones are Matt Jones, Tim Tebow and Eric Crouch. Jones and Crouch were drafted as wide receivers, and many draft know-nothings, er "experts," even wanted Jones to play tight end despite his 4.37 40 time at the Combine and lean build. Scott Frost, who played before Crouch at Nebraska, was another great running QB who was forced to play safety in the NFL.

One not so well-known was Mike McMahon, who was a very fast and elusive runner but admittedly raw as a passer. But he was never given time to develop and had a very short NFL career.

Those are quickly off the top of my head. There are many others, including a number who weren't even drafted.
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Thanks much, gentlemen! This is GREAT ammunition for use in arguments against PC-infected NFL family members.
 
Before his knee injury during his 1964 senior season at Alabama, Joe Namath had fantastic athleticism. So did the pre-knee injury Ken Stabler.
 
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