World Championship 100 Meters Form Chart

[white lightning]

Here is the link.There are some really good sprinters but
some that are missing are Matt Shirvington,Morne Nagel,
Tobias Unger,Sebastian Ernst,& Till Helmke.We have the
opening heats and the quarterfinals on Sat. August 6th.
I can't see anyone we are rooting for not getting out of
at least the first few rounds.Good luck to all of them.
Here is the link.I hope this works.

http://www.iaaf.org/WCH05/results/gender=M/discipline=100/co mbCode=hash/roundCode=h/startlist.html

 

[white lightning]

Let's try this again.After you get to the site,click
on the 100 Meters Heats.

http://www.iaaf.org/WCH05/results/raceDate=08-06-2005/byDate .html

 

[white lightning]

Can someone please help post the link.My computer is so
screwed up.I have adware & spyware that is driving me
crazy and for some reason,I'm not able to post this link.
Sorry about this guys & thanks for the help.

 

[SteveB]

I can't get a link that works either. It is interesting to see Christie Van Wyk on the list, since he hasn't run a major meet all season. He might sneak up on some people, but he is in a tough heat. I feel sorry for all of those guys with a PB above 11 sec.

 

[jaxvid]

My computer is so
screwed up.I have adware & spyware that is driving me
crazy

go to the lavasoft page there is a free adware remover that you can download that works pretty good for me.

Lavasoft

http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/

 

[white lightning]

Thanks for the help jaxvid.Well,the 100 meters semi finals
are set and all of the guys we were rooting for under
acheived.It has been a bad year for most of these guys.
Everyone from Macro to Osovnikar have struggled all season
long.What a shame!Not one of them even put up a descent
time.Even Simone Collio was horrible.Oh well.That's why
I kind of wanted Tobias Unger in there.He is the only one
that has been in good form and he could have made the
semi finals easy and probably the finals.Hopefully his
decision to concentrate on the 200 will pay off in making
the finals and possibly medaling.Good news in the Mens
1500 meters.Alan Webb,and Michael East were a few of the
guys that moved on to the next round.Where is Heshko?I
didn't even see him compete.The 200 & 400 Meters start
in a couple of days.I can't wait.

 

[SteveB]

I was rooting for Collio and he ran a good first round of 10.27 then comes back with a 10.60 second round. He must had a really bad second race to run that slow. Come on Unger in the 200.

 

[white lightning]

In the women's 100 meters,you have around 5 white sprinters
that are on to the semi finals including the Olympic Gold
Medalist from Athens,Y.Nesterenko.It shaping up to be a
great semi and final for the fastest woman in the world.
Osovnikar will be in the 200 meters too for the men.The
best shot for a medal though is Tobias Unger.

 

[jaxvid]

Yes all the white guys finshed last in their quarterfinal heats, kind of embarassing, you figure there would be one black guy they could beat in a race. I think the best time was run by Guus HOOGMOED a 10.31, have we mentioned him here? Seems like a new name.

But really, a white sprinter has to beat a few top 100 meter guys to put a dent in the total black athletic superiority myth.

 

[white lightning]

It was extremly dissapointing!That is why I am excited to
see a new group of young hungry white sprinters rising
onto the scene.Alot of these kids could go onto super
stardom.Matt Shirvington never progressed after the age
of 19.He ran a 10.03 and never came that close to a sub
10 in the 100 meters again.Morne Nagel showed extreme
excellence in 2002 as he was the fastest man in the world
indoors but could never run faster than a 10.13 outdoors.
He has since got slower every year.Nic Macrozonaris ran
a 10.03 in Mexico in 2003 and has never come close again.
It is so frustrating to watch these guys who show glimpses
fail time & time again.I refuse to belive that it is just
due to genetics.We need kids like Wariner & Rock to show
the public that it has nothing to do with color.As you
said jaxvid,we need a 100 meter champion worse than ever!
In my honest opinion,it will be Craig Pickering within
the next several years.He is as confident as any sprinter
out there.That is one of the biggest keys.Sprinting is
as much mental as it is physical.This kid has it all!
Hopefully he will inspire countless other kids to do the
same thing.

 

[white lightning]

Y.Nesterenko has advanced to the 100 Meters Finals at the
World Championships.She won the gold as the fastest woman
in the world at the Olympics last year.Let's see if she
can repeat that historic effort.Go Nesterenko!Bring it
home to Europe.The race is a little bit later on tonight.
I will post the results.The Mens 200 & 400 Meters start
tommorow.

 

[JD074]

Sprinting is as much mental as it is physical.

Then our guys should do better. I just don't think the talent pool is deep enough at the moment. We shouldn't be too depressed about it. White athletes are excelling in so many other areas. This is one of the few places where they're just not making any significant inroads at the moment. It may be a few years or longer before we see meaningful success here. Hopefully I'm wrong and it'll be sooner, but I'm not holding my breath.

My layman's opinion is that when fast white athletes have a choice between 100m sprinting and other sports, they choose the other sports. (Dusty Stamer did, until he got turned away.) Whatever the reason: not getting Div. I scholarships to run track, their parents' influence, simply enjoying other sports more, society telling them that they have no chance to compete in this area, a pessimistic appraisal of their own limitations, etc. I find it hard to believe that there isn't one white man on the planet who doesn't have the potential to succeed in the 100 meters. Other than maybe Unger and Pickering the potential just doesn't seem to be there right now.

According to this logic, if we took thousands of the fastest young white athletes- perhaps 14 to 18 yo, around that age- groomed them for the 100 meter dash, we would get some champions out of that crop. Of course we would also get plenty of failures along the way. Everyone is free to pursue their own goals, and these white athletes just aren't choosing the 100 meters right now. Can't say that I blame them.

Frankly, what's more of a mystery is why these 100m guys chose this endeavor. Were they not good at other sports growing up? That's a little hard to believe. It's interesting that these white European sprinters aren't playing soccer, for instance. (Of course we all know why Dusty Stamer is running track instead of football, but that doesn't explain the Europeans.)

 

[surfsider]

Keep in mind JD that many of the Euros you're talking about are their respective countries' national champions. They have in fact enjoyed quite a bit of success. I dare say that many of these fellows have decided to compete in the 100 meters and be recognized as at least a national class athlete as opposed to being, say, the fastest striker in the German second division.

The point isn't that whites aren't making "significant inroads" in the 100 but that whites are regressing.

Whatever the reasons for the lack of white sprinting success, history says that it is not a pipe dream. Until the early 60's the 100 meter man recognized as the world's fastest man had as much chance of being white as black. Ironically, the lack of a sub 10 white man might be the spur that is needed to attract guys like Pickering, who has made it one of his goals to be the first sub 10 white. Aside from Lewis's time note how close the other 7 100 meter finalists(some white) were time-wise from the 1983 World Championships.

1 Lewis Carl USA 10.07& nbsp;
2 Smith Calvin USA 10.21& nbsp;
3 King Emmit USA 10.24& nbsp;
4 Wells Allan GBR 10.27& nbsp;
5 Nuñez Juan DOM 10.29& nbsp;
6 Haas Christian FRG 10.32& nbsp;
7 Narracott Paul AUS 10.33& nbsp;
8 Williams Desai CAN 10.36

Youth today are less interested in the histories of their various disciplines and most likely they've not seen many or any whites in major 100 meter finals. Maybe a Pickering can have some success and show that whites can be competitive in the 100 but I bet it won't get much play except as some sort of freakish side-show.

 

[white lightning]

One reason for the lack of whites in the sprinting events
is the same as seeing white running backs in football.If
you don't have guys similar to yourself as stars,both you,
your friends,parents,teachers & coaches will not believe
that it is possible or that it is highly unlikely.Also
the money is not in track & field/sprinting.Although I will
say this,who ever is the first white to go sub 10 will be
a very rich man.His name will also be remembered forever.
He would be making history.This to me is motivation enough
for white kids from the US & in Europe to attempt this
feat.Like JD074 said,I don't believe that no one is
capable of it.They just are steered into other areas.That
is why Wariner is as important to our cause as is Stokley
or Bennett.Let's support these guys who will be the
role models for the children growing up now!

 

[Guest]

I dont intend to burstyour bubblehere butwhen you haveguys such as Justin Gatlin (23 years old), and Asafa Powel (22 yrs old), the chances of there ever being a White Olympic Gold Medalist are pretty bad..


You have to remember that guys like Justin Gatlin ,Crawford, Powel, Zakari ,Tim Montgomery, Obikwelu,Collins etc (all have ran under 10)are just as hungry as that Pickeing kid,...so there is no needto getupset when they win.


Look at the bright side guys:At least we have the 5000km walk


McBride

 

[white lightning]

Why are you here?If you want to root for those guys then
go to another message board.They are all excellent
sprinters but that doesn't meen they will always be on
top.Would you have guessed that an Asian guy would win
gold in the 110 Hurdles in world record time?Well,it
happened and it will eventually in the 100.Wariner will
break the world record by 2008 and he will go into the
43 second range in the World Champs.How can this be
possible.These guys are not of African Ancestry?Your whole
way of thinking is based on averages.There are always
exceptions to the rule.The more Wariners and then you will
open a can of worms to motivate more kids to stay in
track.Then you will see a return of all color sprinters
dominating.Not just the ones of african ancestry.

 

[SteveB]

I agree with you guys about not enough white kids running track. Track just isn't a priority for white kids. When I ran track in high school, it was just a way to stay in shape until football season, not to try to win an olympic medal. Track for many in the black community is a way of life. If you go to any AAU meet, you will see mostly black kids running when they are 7 years old. At that age, the white kids are playing baseball, soccer, swimming, riding skateboards, bmx, etc., not running track. Hopefully a few kids are inspired by Wariner and Rock and start running at a young age.

 

[IceSpeed2]

How often do you see white kids on track teams on
TV? How often do you see white kids bash professional white
athletes? The media just doesn't support whites?

 

[JD074]

Hello, McTroll- I mean, McBride.

I dont intend to burst your bubble here but when you have guys such as Justin Gatlin (23 years old), and Asafa Powel (22 yrs old), the chances of there ever being a White Olympic Gold Medalist are pretty bad..

Frankly, I'm not that ambitious. I'm far from thinking about white 100m Gold medalists. I'd just like to see some competitive white 100m sprinters. I believe that the athletic potential is out there somewhere, just not in the current crop.

But let's not speak too "glowingly" of Montgomery. Come on. The guy totally flamed out after getting clean.

 

[JD074]

Keep in mind JD that many of the Euros you're talking about are their respective countries' national champions.

Good point.

Those are interesting times for that race, Surfsider. My how things have changed. Except for Lewis, those are the kind of times that white sprinters run now (and occasionally a white sprinter will run around 10.07, but it's rare.) It's like we're twenty years behind.

Of course, Lewis took drugs. And when you look at a guy like Asafa Powell who somehow broke the world record of someone who also took drugs (Montgomery,) and guys like Gatlin and Greene who run nearly as fast (9.80-9.82,) it really casts doubt on the legitimacy of the whole thing.

Maybe we're being too hard on the white sprinters. Maybe running a 9.8 is physically impossible to do clean, as many of us already believe. Are there any other sports that have made such huge advancements in terms of world records, and that are clean? Should we concede that white sprinters will never run a 9.80 or 9.90 without taking drugs?

The only options are to either totally eliminate drugs from the sport (sounds like an unwinnable battle if there ever was one the white athletes have to find ways to cheat without getting caught; embrace their national glory, and not expect anything more than that; or simply change the rules and let these grown men take whatever they want. Look at how well Kenteris did in the 200, and he was probably running against other users. Maybe legalizing drugs could level the playing field somewhat. Edited by: JD074

 

[Guest]

Keep in mind JD that many of the Euros you're talking about are their respective countries' national champions.

Good point.

Those are interesting times for that race, Surfsider. My how things have changed. Except for Lewis, those are the kind of times that white sprinters run now (and occasionally a white sprinter will run around 10.07, but it's rare.) It's like we're twenty years behind.

Of course, Lewis took drugs. And when you look at a guy like Asafa Powell who somehow broke the world record of someone who also took drugs (Montgomery,) and guys like Gatlin and Greene who run nearly as fast (9.80-9.82,) it really casts doubt on the legitimacy of the whole thing.

Maybe we're being too hard on the white sprinters. Maybe running a 9.8 is physically impossible to do clean, as many of us already believe. Are there any other sports that have made such huge advancements in terms of world records, and that are clean? Should we concede that white sprinters will never run a 9.80 or 9.90 without taking drugs?

The only options are to either totally eliminate drugs from the sport (sounds like an unwinnable battle if there ever was one the white athletes have to find ways to cheat without getting caught; embrace their national glory, and not expect anything more than that; or simply change the rules and let these grown men take whatever they want. Look at how well Kenteris did in the 200, and he was probably running against other users. Maybe legalizing drugs could level the playing field somewhat.

hello JD74.


You areaccusing Carl Lewisof taking drugs?...LOL, atleastprovide proof for such allegations.


PS, Carl Lewis Ran Sub 10, do your search.http://www.angelfire.com/sports/lc/welcome.htm


McBride

 

[Guest]

Hello, McTroll- I mean, McBride.

I dont intend to burst your bubble here but when you have guys such as Justin Gatlin (23 years old), and Asafa Powel (22 yrs old), the chances of there ever being a White Olympic Gold Medalist are pretty bad..

Frankly, I'm not that ambitious. I'm far from thinking about white 100m Gold medalists. I'd just like to see some competitive white 100m sprinters. I believe that the athletic potential is out there somewhere, just not in the current crop.

But let's not speak too "glowingly" of Montgomery. Come on. The guy totally flamed out after getting clean.

LOL, Jd74


White guys are not competitive?. Dont you mean, they arenotcompetent to run againstblack guys? Im serious here. I have experience in running against the purests, fastests ,whitests breeds, and those kids were fast. However they were demolished by blacks.......year after year,


In that country white kids take running seriously (they take everything seriously). Dont let the lack of white gold medalistsgive youthe impression thatthey arent competitive white runners, because i know of white athletes, they are just as ambitious (if not more ambitious) than blacks........


http://www.athletics.org.za/default.asp?cId=2372&cl=yes


^Check the SA 100m record, by a white guy in 1988.........(any questions?)


You see ,white guys are fast, but are nothing in comparison to blacks.


http://www.namibian.com.na/Focus/Games/update1.html


^Check that out


http://www.africathle.com/perso/events/abujares.htmlhttp://www.iaaf.org/athletes/focusOnAfrica/newsId=27098/


^^Check the 100m out.......a sub 10, simple


MacBrideEdited by: McBride

 

[Bart]

McBlack, where have you been for so long?

 

[SteveB]

McBride, pull your head out of the sand!! Lewis tested positive for stimulants in 1988 and it was covered up by the USOC. There are steriods such as HGH that can't be detected through standard tests. Most of these top sprinters have rumors swirling around them about illegal drug use. Do a little research.

http://www.time-to-run.com/drugs-in-sport/articles/speculate .htm

"This year 2003, it was disclosed that Carl Lewis tested positive for a substance in 1988 but it was not deemed serious enough to pursue. So they say. The only thing in Lewis' favour is that he is not muscled like the rest of the gorillas."

"Also in the document regarding 1988, it is mentioned that 8 members of the US team had tested positive however it was covered up by their organisation."

 

[JD074]

White guys are not competitive?. Dont you mean, they are not competent to run against black guys? Im serious here.

Yes, that's what I mean. I meant "competitive" in their results, not their mindset.

Unfortunately, the top white 100m guys don't seem to be "competent" against the top black 100m guys. Hopefully that'll change. Again, Powell just broke a world record of a Balco client, so what are the chances of him being clean? How many Balco-type labs are out there that the authorities don't know about? How many designer steroids that can pass detection? Or HGH users? If Kenteris could have success, then why couldn't these white 100m sprinters frequent one of these labs and do the same thing? Maybe they don't have the connections, who knows. Obviously it's breaking the rules and their careers would be ruined if caught. It would be safer to just be content with the national glory that was mentioned earlier.

I have to admit that it's hard to imagine these white sprinters who struggle to crack 10.20 or 10.30 get all the way down to 9.8 or 9.9 without chemical enhancement. (Or clean black sprinters for that matter.) I speculate that a really athletic white sprinter who responds well to these chemicals could do it, but that's theoretical on my part. Kenteris was considered a "marginal 400m sprinter" by one writer before meeting up with his coach and becoming the best 200m sprinter in the world for a brief moment. So maybe there could be a 100m version of Kenteris someday. Who knows.