Why Are Nearly All Quarterbacks White??

whiteathlete33

Hall of Famer
Joined
Mar 18, 2007
Messages
12,669
Location
New Jersey
Toby Hillis said:
whiteathlete, Cade McNown was drafted in the first round (12th overall) in that draft as well. I agree, McNabb is worthy, a couple others are borderline starters, the restshould bebackups/wildcatplayersor shouldnt be in the league at all

Damn I forgot about McNown. So it was two white quarterbacks drafted and three black ones in the first round of 1999. I still think Mcnown would have panned out if given a little more time. He wasn't great but he was certainly better than colossal bust Akili Smith. Any player with a 44 percent completion percentage in his second year as a starter has big problems.
 
Joined
Dec 18, 2004
Messages
2,986
I saw predictions of "in 10 years over half of NFL quarterbacks will be black" as far back as 1974, as I have previously written.
 

white is right

Hall of Famer
Joined
Feb 16, 2006
Messages
10,163
whiteathlete33 said:
I have yet to see a complete black quarterback.  There have been some which have been good like Warren Moon or Donovan McNabb but there are tons of white qb's which I would say are complete quarterbacks.  By that I mean guys who can make all the necessary throws, great in the pocket, and very intelligent.
Moon was a complete qb who didn't win the big games in the playoffs. Mcnabb is a poor mans version of him and Randall and Mcnair were poor men versions of Mcnabb. Aside from them all of the other Black starting qb's have been guys that rode hot hands and then fizzled when defenses adjusted. Edited by: white is right
 

white is right

Hall of Famer
Joined
Feb 16, 2006
Messages
10,163
Don Wassall said:
The NFL thought they hit the jackpot with Daunte Culpepper -- huge, strong-armed, and too powerful to bring down.  Culpepper had a few good seasons, but was the beneficiary of a Vikings offense that had a great offensive line, a very good runner in Robert Smith, and Randy Moss as an unstoppable force in his early years along with the all-time great possession receiver Cris Carter. 
<div> </div>
<div>Culpepper could stand back in the pocket for what seemed like 10 seconds and then wail the ball down the field to Moss, or take off and build power and make nice runs.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>But that didn't last very long.  Smith retired prematurely, and Culpepper gained weight while simultaneously losing power.  He was washed up early, as are so many black athletes.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>After Culpepper came big (and fat) with zero mobility -- Byron Leftwich -- and then big, fat and pathetic -- JaMarcus Russell.  </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Now an aging and often inaccurate Donovan McNabb remains the only accomplished black QB, and a big "project," Josh Freeman, is the league's only young hope at the position.  But you can bet the NFL and its media partners will keep trying.  What's working against the affirmative action experiment at quarterback, however, is that black deficiencies can't be covered up as readily as at other positions.  Fewer teams are likely to want to draft black QBs in the first or second round, but they'll continue to be drafted in later rounds and given opportunities when they present themselves.  And of course the big college programs will continue to recruit and play them, which means there will be "prospects" every year for the NFL Draft.</div>
Guys that teams would have never taken a flyer on the past now get drafted in the middle rounds. Also guys that would have been middle round picks are now 1st or 2nd rounders. In extreme cases such as Quincy Watts guys that should have been late picks or free agents go in the second.....
 

Leonardfan

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 30, 2006
Messages
24,386
Sports Historian, just curious...what do you think of the number of black qbs being recruited the college level? do you think this will have any major impact on QBs that get drafted? All of them seem to play in some variation of the spread. Do you think the spread is going to start declining in the next few years?
 
Joined
Dec 18, 2004
Messages
2,986
Leonardfan said:
Sports Historian, just curious...what do you think of the number of black qbs being recruited the college level? do you think this will have any major impact on QBs that get drafted? All of them seem to play in some variation of the spread. Do you think the spread is going to start declining in the next few years?

The colleges have been recruiting black QBs since the early 1970s. The ratio of black QBs being drafted will stay about the same as now. There will always be a desire for "projects." Hard to say about the spread. Football coaches aren't very smart as a group.
 

Van_Slyke_CF

Mentor
Joined
Oct 11, 2007
Messages
1,565
Location
West Virginia
I remember an SI cover from around '95 I think called, "The Quarterback of the '90s," with a picture of maybe 3 black QBs, making the case the game was going to be dominated soon and forevermore by afflete QBs.

Well, despite the best efforts of the NFL, it hasn't happened.

The NFL is too complicated for most black QBs, reading the coverages and making split-second decisions what to do with the play called or to audible. And they generally don't have the ability to throw with the consistency necessary to be good in the NFL.

Anyway, black QBs are more than fairly represented in the NFL according to the black proportion of the population.

White QBs are nearly always better than black ones for the pro game.


Edited by: Van_Slyke_CF
 

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
Here's something I'm watching closely... The "PTB" said that Tim Tebow wasn't a "prolific enough" passer in college, but will they say the same about Newton?

Newton just came from the JC ranks, so I'm unsure if he's going to enter the draft after this year... nonetheless, when it's all said and done, he'll end up as a worse (college) passer than Tebow!

The black defenses that he faced in the past 3 weeks had "no heart/no will" and they played like scared children. These same bruthas wanted to hurt Tebow, but we mustn't forget, Newton is one of their own....
 

Jimmy Chitwood

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Messages
8,975
Location
Arkansas
Truthteller said:
Newton is actually atransfer from Florida -- left because of Tebow ...

Newton was actually kicked off the team in Florida because of his repeated off field "issues." the numerous criminal citations he received (not to mentionthe numerous others which were never made public) were finally too much to cover up when he was caught redhanded with a stolen computer ... i suspect, though, thatthe felony charges (as always seems to happen with negro "super heroes") were dropped. wierd how that happens, huh?
smiley2.gif


his departure had nothing to do with Tebow, except possibly allowing Meyer to playTim withouthearing a bunch of nonsense about a"more talented" affletebeing on the bench fromthe DWFs.

also, i think a more important issue to consider is this: in his short tenure as a collegiate coach, Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn, the "mad" offensive geniuswho has created the Newton monster, has had a series of quarterbacks (including a couple at Tulsa) who put up mind-boggling numbers ... yet not a single one of them was considered a legitimate NFL prospect despite playing in the same Malzahn system. without actually going back and digging up the official numbers, i suspect that all the previous Malzahn-system quarterbacks put up far superior stats than Newton, at least in the passing game.

so why is Newton a "sure-fire, Number 1 pick," when all those White cats were just "products of the system?" oh, never mind. i just answered my own question.
smiley2.gif
 

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
Truthteller said:
Newton is actually a transfer from Florida -- left because of Tebow. So the girly men in the media will no doubt bludgeon caste clown Urban Meyer for allowing  this "Superhero" to leave Gainesville. I think as the weeks go on, his momentum will gain, as ESPN keeps hyping him, but we'll see? I would not be surprised to see him win the Heisman.
<div> </div>
<div>Here's a Bleacher Report article from Auburn fan Stacey Mickels, a black woman. She thinks he should absolutely leave early. Best part of this article is the DWF's chimming in. Surprisingly, many are not agreeing. Most comical DWF is the one who thinks he should stay to "get his degree" from Auburn, which is nothing more than a glorified pre-school for jocks
smiley8.gif
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>http://bleacherreport.com/articles/492157-will-cam-newton-be-one-and-done-at-auburn</div>

I just finished reading the comments, and the "homosexual vibe" has just ruined my dinner.
smiley55.gif


At first, I thought the mentally-challenged broad (Stacy) was an Auburn fan, but it turns out that she's an Alabama fan... Basically, a lot of "team fans" bitchin' at each other and overrating SEC defenses, and reminding us that "Newton has a cannon-arm"...
smiley29.gif
 

snow

Mentor
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
920
He benefits from the offensive scheme that Auburn runs, yes he is talented but not as talented as Tebow imo. Florida ran a similar offense but not as many snaps because they didn't do hurry up that much. Plus, Auburn uses more of the inverted zone read, where Cam Newton is the inside threat and the back is the outside threat, Florida used this with Tebow somewhat (maybe like 20 to 30 percent of option plays), but they should have used it more. For the most part they used midgets like Jeff Demps as dive backs going up the middle while Tebow was the option to the outside which makes no sense when you think about it.

Taylor Martinez will rise up as the best dual threat quarterback out of Newton, Robinson etc. Persa is pretty damn good as well, great passing skills as well as running skills.

Edited by: snow
 

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
More easily refutable Caste Clownery... The continued attack on Tebow, all about race: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/25497107


This excerpt from a comment made me laugh:
smiley36.gif


How good was Tebow without Harvin? Not very. Newton is a dynamic playmaker that doesn't need to dump the ball off to truly gifted players to put up big stats.

Is he saying what I think he's saying?... A QUARTERBACK doesn't need receivers?... OH, his "superhero" Newton doesn't need receivers, I got it!

That "inferior" Tebow, how dare he use his receivers!
smiley2.gif
And didn't Riley Cooper have a big Senior season with Tebow? If Newton was their "QB" -- that wouldn't have happened.

We were still told, though, that Tebow, Colt McCoy, Colt Bremnnan, and don't forget all those highly-productive Texas Tech QBs, "weren't NFL material"... "awkward throwing motions, products of the system, etc."
 

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
Look at how Matt Ryan has turned Roddy White into a star.. last week was another example... yet I've seen several article headlines essentially stating that -- "Roddy White leads Atlanta to Victory."

No mention of Matt Ryan... If he was black, he wouldn't be "MIA" from the article title!

Kenny Britt also had a huge game with Kerry Collins as his QB. At CF, we aren't surprised by our prowess and command of the football field, but the bitter, anti-White MSM doesn't want to acknowledge it. "Washed-up" Kerry Collins is still light-years ahead of a "prime" (whatever that is..) Vince Young... Deal with it!
 

Truthteller

Mentor
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
1,205
Look like the great Gil Brandt has joinedthe Cam Newton lovefest: The ESPN girls had high praise for him. Miss Brandt takes it to ahigher level, saying he's a better prospect than Tebow and gushes: "I think the Auburn QB might be the most exciting football player I've seen on the college levelâ€" EVER,"Â￾

Not sure why he "might be"... Brandt is supposed to be abright man. So either Cam "is" or he "is not" the most exciting football player he's ever seen
smiley5.gif


http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/10/27/brandt-auburns-newton-better-than-tebow/
 

white is right

Hall of Famer
Joined
Feb 16, 2006
Messages
10,163
All aboard the Cam Newton hype train next stop Oakland....
smiley2.gif
Newton is rawer than Radio was in college. Well that should only make him the number 4 pick.....
smiley2.gif
smiley11.gif
 

Leonardfan

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 30, 2006
Messages
24,386
Newton plays in a very simple offense, he has 150 or so passing attempts up to this point in his whole college career. He wont have much success at the next level.
 

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
I agree with your points gentlemen! Also, they act like Auburn currently being undefeated was some kind of "impossibility"... Because of that narrative, they praise Newton EVEN MORE!

I'm more impressed with Michigan State and Missouri currently being undefeated. I was also glad that Auburn beat LSU... Les Miles was getting some ridiculous Ws (with his "Jordan Jefferson experiment") that he SHOULDN'T have been getting.

By the time the season's over, Auburn will likely have a couple losses anyways! The MSM will probably blame it on their defense - which isn't great and can be exploited bigtime.
 

Wolfman82

Newbie
Joined
Oct 9, 2010
Messages
55
Location
Ft. Worth
Newton is just the latest in a long line of overhyped Caste QBs. He a good college QB, but he will be a deer in the headlights in the pros. Just like Vick, Cambell, Young, Smith, Stewert, White, Russell, Mcpherson, Leftwitch, and you men know how many others. Of corse that wont stop the self hating DWFs from getting down on there knees for him.
 

celticdb15

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
8,469

Deadlift

Hall of Famer
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
5,240
Location
North Carolina
Cam Newton doesn't deserve Heisman Trophy

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2010/11/cam-newton-integrity-heisman-trophy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sports_bianchi+%28Open+Mike%29



(ADDENDUM TO ORIGINAL BLOG POST): I just found out that Oregon running back LaMichael James was arrested and pled guilty to a domestic abuse charge earlier this year. I will not vote for him either. I have a suggestion: In addition to providing passing and rushing statistics, maybe schools should also start providing Heisman voters with criminal background checks.)

smiley20.gif


Phil Lutzenkirchen only has 9 catches... If the "spread" can't utilize a stud like him in the passing game, then, quite frankly, it's a TOTALLY BOGUS offense!

http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=480384

Standing next to Newton on the field, they look identical in height.. he could really stretch the field but the damn spread BS.
smiley7.gif
 

DixieDestroyer

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 19, 2007
Messages
9,464
Location
Dixieland
Newton's tied up in an agent buy-out/pay day scandal. Secondly, he's grossly over-hyped & can't hold Tebow's jockstrap.

DL, you're spot on regarding Matt Ryan's responsibility for making Roddy (not) White into a Pro-Bowler. Had Matty Ice not delivered the ball right on White's # & hands...White would have NEVER racked up the big receiving yardage.
 

TwentyTwo

Master
Joined
Oct 31, 2009
Messages
3,609
Location
Louisiana
Was not sure where to post this garbage?? The good ole' race card at QB from ESPiN...maybe the writer should check out what we here at CFare against at nearly every other position...what would she say about white CB's or Running Backs?? Unfair treatment for Young, McNabb or Campbell???


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=hill/101123

Most African-Americans are familiar with the notion that we have to be twice as good just to be considered equal with whites. And considering that there are only six black starting quarterbacks in the NFL, there isn't a lot of room for error.
 

celticdb15

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 24, 2007
Messages
8,469
right now Vick and Freeman are the only ones worthy of starting. Troy Smith, Campbell, McNabb, and Young are all GARBAGE.
 

Don Wassall

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
31,442
Location
Pennsylvania
How about this beauty from the article?


I know race doesn't completely explain the Raiders' treatment of Campbell or why he didn't work out for the Redskins. But Campbell's shortcomings are rarely clarified with the same perspective as some white quarterbacks.








You hear about his 25-35 record as a starter, but you don't hear that he's played for a different offensive coordinator in every season since the Redskins drafted him in the first round in 2005.

I've heard or read that, oh, at least a thousand times or so. It's been the knee-jerk, constantly repeated line, going back to poor Jason's days at Auburn,about Campbell ever since he first started a gamefor Washington.

Despite the protestations by the author of the article, it is all about whining, something blacksare "superior" to every other race at doing. How about the way Matt Leinart was treated? What about the giving up on Colt McCoy by some during his rookie training camp? Those are just two cases off the top of my head; there are many, many, many more when it comes to White QBs. For Whites at other positions, the prejudice and snap judgments are far worse. Black QBs, like black players in general, and blacks in society in general, are treated with kid gloves and held to far lesser standards of behavior and achievement. That this young black girl is a writer with national exposure through ESPN is a perfect example.

It's all but impossible for a society to be more anti-White than the current U.S.in its policies and attitudes. It shows that the more blacks are pandered to, the more paranoid and delusional they become -- which is also more proof positive, as if any more were needed, that "multiculturalism," "multiracialism," Cultural Marxism and the rest of the poisons that have conquered the U.S. from within are unworkable and untenable -- except for the tiny few pulling the strings at the top, which is what has been intended all along.Edited by: Don Wassall
 
Top